The road to Le Mans: Fernando Alonso tests Toyota LMP1 car at Bahrain
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Posted By: James Allen  |  19 Nov 2017   |  7:28 am GMT  |  95 comments

While most F1 drivers are having a quiet weekend ahead of the final F1 race of the season in Bahrain, Sunday saw McLaren Honda driver Fernando Alonso at the wheel of a Toyota WEC car.

The two time world champion had his first taste of the top class of endurance racing with a view to potentially competing at Le Mans.

He covered 113 laps of the Bahrain International Circuit in an official rookie test, setting competitive lap times within tenths of a second of the Toyota works driver Sebastien Buemi.

The 36 year old Spaniard is keen to race at Le Mans and in the 2018 season, although new entries for the LMP1 category are being made, Toyota is the only team likely to be fighting for victory as things stand. The team won the final WEC race of 2017 on Saturday in Bahrain.

He has been helped by Mark Webber (above with Alonso at the WEC race in Bahrain yesterday), the Aussie has also had a hand in encouraging Brendon Hartley’s switch from Porsche WEC team to F1 with Red Bull’s Toro Rosso team

After three tough seasons with McLaren Honda that have yielded very little in terms of results or satisfaction, Alonso is proving something of a mould breaker; trying the Indianapolis 500 and now endurance racing. In January he is set to race in the Daytona 24 Hours for Zak Brown’s United Autosports team alongside McLaren reserve driver Lando Norris.

“We are very excited that Fernando will test our car,” said Hisatake Murata, Toyota’s Team President. “When he visited us in Cologne everyone who met him could sense his enthusiasm and passion for our sport; he is a true racer. We very much respect his interest in different forms of motorsport and it is a pleasure to offer him this chance to drive a hybrid LMP1 car. It will be interesting to hear his feedback on the TS050 HYBRID.”

There is little love between Alonso and Honda and the politics of a driver who is still contracted to a Honda team and whose large salary is partly funded by them, taking the wheel of their arch rival’s car is interesting.

But on the flip side it provides a great boost for the World Endurance Championship, which has endured a tough season with the decision by Porsche to withdraw from LMP1, following sister team Audi’s similar decision a year earlier.

Alonso wants to win the Le Mans 24 hours and the Indy 500 to complete the triple crown of great motor races along with Monaco GP. Graham Hill, Damon’s father, is the only driver to have achieved this. Alonso has won Monaco.

Juan Pablo Montoya has already won two of the three and said on his recent visit to Austin that he had been considering making an assault on Le Mans, so he may get to the triple crown before Alonso does.

What do you think of the Alonso Le Mans story? Leave your comments in the section below

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1

No, Bearded Matador, No! If you're going to compete and try to WIN at Le Mans..............don't drive for Toyota!

Toyota have never won at Le Mans. Something always trips them up. This year La Sarthe was sweltering, with daytime air temps nudging 35C and track temps/cockpit temps nearly 55C. It was hotter than hell............or Australia. And guess what? Toyota had failed to take into account the impending heatwave and their cars wilted under the harsh merciless sun..............it sums up their Le Mans campaigns over the years. Something always goes wrong. Always.

If Alonso wants to win this gruelling, demanding epic event which is the last true European road racing to remain in the civilized world, then he needs to have a chat with Porsche, who actually can make machines than can go the full 24 hour distance.

2

Haven’t they withdrawn?

3

Clearly you dont understand much about sportscars do you?? Toyota is the best chance for Alonso at least for now. Porsche is out of the wec and the LM24h. That leaves a bunch of private racing teams wgo have even less chance to take victory. Also I can say the same about Pescarolo and Peugeot. When Peugeot won in 2009 was not thanks to a reliable car. Was on pure pace. I suggest you to take interest in sportscars and leave the stats for a secnd plan

4

I'm cracking up at all the people saying it wont be worth anything as Toyota is the only team in LMP1. Does that mean then that Hamilton's championships in 2014 and 2015 don't count either as the Merc may as well have been the only car entered? Alonso would still need to beat his team mates in the same machinery which is the hardest bit anyway.

It's unfortunate that WEC has ended up in this scenario but I'm afraid that's what happens if you have nothing but manufacturers, eventually racing "no longer meets their corporate goals" and they pull out. Something F1 should pay much heed to!

5

I don't see a point of winning the Le Mans, if they'll be the only LMP1 team competing. No one, not even Alonso himself, would count that win to be in the same league as the one when Hill won it.
Maybe, but just barely if he had won it this year with so little competition.

On the other hand, Montoya started talking about it this year after Alonso started to talk about it.
Where was he (Montoya) all these years with such talk? 🙂
Also my God has he gotten fat...
I don't know how recent this photo is, but this is no way near the shape, or fitness level, he should be in for a guy who pretend, or talk about, to be a athlete competing at top level.

6

JPM could actually make that happen. He already has one that will be hard for Alonso. The Indy 500 is not easy to win as there are many drivers capable of winning that one.

This is one year where there was some competition in the 4 racing categories which I watch on a regular basis.

Off topic: That race between Truex and Bush in Homestead was a very close race. Truex won the regular season points and the playoff trophy as well and that is a very small team but he did get some help from JGR which is one of the larger teams. So in NASCAR sometimes a small team can win every few years. That was a feel good moment. HAAS finished 3rd in the playoffs. So they will want to do better than 8th in F1 eventually.

The officials in NASCAR will tear the car down tonight and there have been a couple of encumbered wins this year. If we have one this time it would be very negative since this is the first time since 1988 that a team not based in Charlotte has won.

7

The main reason JPM has only just started talking about it is that the triple crown seems to have been watered down to an alternative version which subs in the Monaco GP for the F1 Championship, until this alternative came up he obviously wasn't in without a shout...

8

Justin, the triple crown has always been Monaco, Le Mans, and Indy. The F1 WDC was never part of it.

9

If you ask me that's what the "triple crown" should be anyway. All 3 races existed before the F1 world championship and it would be weird having the championship as one as the other two are single events.

10

@ Justin
Who was the one watered it down? Alonso? Or someone else before? Didn't they talk about it (from time to time) for decades?
Anyone can come up with 3 (or more) races and claim this is the triple (or even quintuple) crown. 🙂
In my mind, proper triple crown would be: F1 championship, WEC championship, and to a extent Indy or even WRC championship. All other championships are less appealing, or less relevant.

11

@Krako
It's never been about championships, its about 3 of the oldest Motorsport races in the world, in 3 different disciplines. Should always be those three, they're most well known and most prestigious.

Still, to my mind Surtees' record is still the better one and will never be broken. World Champion on 2 and 4 wheels.

12

Agreed Nick, @Krako, its not a real thing anyway its just an unofficial name that has appeared over the years. The idea is that the three cover all disciplines of track racing; road sprint, road endurance and oval and are the most prestigious events in their respective disciplines.

Agreed on Surtees, I don't think that will be equalled. There may have been a chance, there was a lot of rumour about Rossi driving in F1 a few years ago (I believe I am correct in saying he even tested for Ferrari) but it never came to anything. It would have to be a biker that turned cars I would think but the way F1 is now a days you basically have to be signed by a team when you are 5 and go through their "internship" scheme to get a sniff of a drive, so no I doubt it will happen. Mind you Lewis likes bikes doesn't he?...

13

GazBoy...It has another one of those engines made in Japan. 😣BUT !! It's a better engine and it's a Toyota...."Supra" said Alonso😉.
A further kick in the teeth for Honda (as the advert goes "Where Dreams"... are shattered).
Good to the F1 driver crossing over.
Kimi did that when Ferrari gave him a golden handshake to move over for Alonso and wet Rallying.
Kubica did that also to a lesser extent.
Would like to see an F1 team develop a car for LeMan get the 4 top drivers for the 24 hours Le Mans and break some lap times and records.

14

Hey Japan will return one day. You would think Honda will do this one day. A Honda powered car won the Indy 500 this year but really didn't have a chance in the championship this year but they won with Scott Dixon over JPM because the last race was double points.

I don't like playoffs and double points races. It is good that F1 doesn't have this for me. Others might want the last race to have a separate trophy for the top position of the finishing order of the top 4 in the last race.

Someone does need to win the triple crown but if they could do that plus the Daytona 500 that would be even better.

Didn't Mario Andretti win Monaco Daytona 500 and the Indy 500? He won 3 of something anyway. Alonso still has time to do something like that and it's very hard but old guys can still win the ones in the US as the drivers don't have to pull many Gs here.

15

Air temp of 35C hotter than hell or Australia? No Gaz, not even close. From coldest to hottest:

La Sarthe
Hell
Australia

There's only one time in Australia that 35 is considered hot and that's about 2am.

Of course if you don't believe me then you're more than welcome to visit 🙂

16

Australia is cool weather for Saffas mate!

Come visit us in the Northern Cape sometime, where places lie Calvinia and Upington run mid to high 40's in summer...

I recon thats why so many of us are making "Ozzieland" our new homes...I'd go nuts if a raincloud followed me around all day like in England!!!

On topic though, Mario won the 3 big ones but never Le mans (Daytona 500m Indy 500 and Monaco GP)

Alonso in a Toyota at Le Mans would be special, but not having other factory teams would be a a touch disappointing - just imagine if he and Webber were duking it out at 200mph + down te Mulsanne straight....sadly not to be...

speaking of high temps - tonight is a good night for a braai (we don't do barbecue - that's a Simba chips flavour! LOL!)

17

"Australia is cool weather for Saffas mate!

Come visit us in the Northern Cape sometime, where places lie Calvinia and Upington run mid to high 40's in summer..."

You do know that it gets that hot here too right? 🙂

It still a month or two before we'll start seeing 45-49ish (hopefully at least) but 40+ today apparently.

The plan: Sit under the air conditioner all day and do as little as humanly possible.

Wish me luck 🙂

18

Funny you mention that, night time temperatures at le mans this year never dropped below 20C, hence why it was impossible to sleep........

You would think being Australian Mark Webber would have found the 2005 Bahrain GPS a nice gentle stroll even though air temperatures were 42C.........and yet after the race he needed to go straight to an air conditioned room and lie down for a few hours because he was so exhausted............and Webby was one of the fittest drivers around.

Lying down after a hot race? Nah, no Australian male would be that poncy!

19

Two hours in a full race suit in a hot car when it's 42c to begin with?

Yep, in all honesty I'd need a lie down too 🙂

20

No wonder your F1 sense of humor is drying out...in that heat.

21

Do you not read the news? Did you not read the article?? Porsche are out, it's Toyota or nothing. If he does get there and he does pull it off it will be kind of meaningless without any real competition.

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I guess you are right to an extent but keep in mind that he and his codrivers will have to better the other toyota teams. I for one hope that he does win it and l will not see ut as less meaningful. Marc

23

Toyota confirmed tonight they are going for the empty victory or embarrassing defeat. But now that they won't have to go 12s faster to than LMP2 and actually fight other LMP1 cars, and only 2s a lap faster than LMP2 will do, next edition will be team controlled cruise to the trophy. I'm yawning already Just thinking about it.

24

Toyota is the NASCAR champion's car. Could help withdrawal decision from WEC.

25

It's actually surprising that Toyota isn't pulling out. If they win it's an empty victory against no one in an empty LMP1 category. Then again, they could end up beaten by LMP2 cars, like this year.

Where is the upside?

26

If there IS an upside, you surely will not find it..ever.

27

That's a Heck of a question? Is it true? Is Toyota the only LMP1 car for next year?

If so that doesn't look too good for F1. How can the rules change for the better without Loosing manufacturers?

There is no guarantees about new manufacturers coming in if the rules do change as someone would still have to finance the likes of Cosworth or Ilmor.

I'm with you I want to not see hybrid cars. If that means too much fuel then make a deal with a single fuel supplier so they don't have a problem flying petrol around the world. Get it from a nearby gas station. If the fuel is a little different so be it. Refueling and using lower profile tires would make for a light car that could be pushed all the way. Now the cars are slow until fuel is burned off. With the new rules proposals the car will be even heavier. Those thick sidewall tires weigh a lot. More mechanical grip could be gained by less unsprung weight and the tires are too heavy and width is not the problem.

This is all a pipe dream though but I see other ways to fix problems. Paying €500 million for a chance to win is too much to be sustained.

I also don't see these mid field teams being able to sustain that.

28

Sebee, they will stay until they win Le Mans, and then quit like all the others. An empty victory is better than no victory.

29

Are you suggesting that other drivers piloting Toyotas don't count as real competition ? Unless there are team orders, I think they might be.

30

If you're in an empty category racing against no one, it's just for the purpose of formality to show you can complete the distance. As we have seen, Toyota cannot complete the distance. It's one of those funny cases where they make the most reliable and highly rated wonderful cars year after year (example: 2016 Consumers Report reliability rankings have Lexus at #1, Toyota at #2, Mercedes at #17) yet this LMP racing effort is showing exactly the opposite.

Now in 2018/19, a transitional double year season for WEC, all that Toyota will do is set up their cars for 1 or 2s per lap faster lap times than LMP2 and coast to the finish. That's impressive? About as much as first 3 years of F1 PU era.

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If you're in an empty category racing against no one, it's just for the purpose of formality to show you can complete the distance. As we have seen, Toyota cannot complete the distance really racing. It's one of those funny cases where they make the most reliable and highly rated road cars year after year (example: 2016 Consumers Report reliability rankings have Lexus at #1, Toyota at #2, Mercedes at #17) yet this racing effort is showing exactly the opposite and actually damaging the brand image. Like F1 for Honda.

Now in 2018, a transitional double year season for WEC, all that Toyota will do is set up their cars for 1 or 2s per lap faster lap times than LMP2 (normal difference if 10-12s per lap) and coast to the finish. That's impressive? About as much as first 3 years of F1 PU era.

32

Meaningless without any real competition mmm where have i heard that before in the last 4 years …

33

@ Albert...If i read your post the way i have then i would like to welcome you aboard. It can get rough sometimes but good seamanship will get you safely to harbourside.

34

albert...we've met i'm sure???
Let me buy you a drink!

35

That's why the whole 2017 dog and pony show about competition existing.

Sharing is caring.

36

Actually this year Ferrari had a chance but it's still 2 teams. 4 or 5 would be much better.

37

We're Toyota not beaten by LMP2 cars?

With Alonso's luck, his team's car will fail, or if they finish 1-2 as only LMP1 cars competing, he'll be in the 2nd car.

38

I see 'apostrophe'man has struck again.

39
Ricciardo Aficionado

It's all going to be great.

40

They could have dnfs for sure.

41

Toyota's history in GT racing is such that they could be the only entry and still finish second. Although they are unlikely to ever top the outstanding glorious failure of the TS020, the infamous Toyota GT-One.

42

Only the "factory" Porsche effort is pulling out - still plenty of privateers who use Stuttgart's reliable machinery to drive for.

43

But it was the factory team competing in LMP1. There's no privateer competing with 919.

44

They are coming up with what looks like 3 LMP1 cars for private teams for this 2018/19 Super Season. Dellara is building them. Petrov will drive one. But it will be factory vs. these private LMP1 competitors that won't stand a chance likely, scoop a podium perhaps when Toyota trips up on itself.

45

....in LMP1?

46

It's great that Alonso is doing these other races, but is it possible to turn up and be successful straight away? Even for a driver of Fernando's talents it must be difficult to be on the pace of other drivers who have been driving those cars for years. Maybe when he retires from F1 he can do full seasons in the US and WEC, and go for the real triple crown of F1, Sportscars and Indycar champion!
I wonder how keen McLaren will be to let him do all these extra curricular activities if he is in the championship hunt?

47

Tim, the Hulk managed it...no sweat!

48

Lkfe, yeah I suppose it is possible, go Nando!!!

49

Yes, he'll do just fine. Ironically endurance racing is more like F1 than F1 at the moment. They can get in those WEC cars and push to the limit all race if they want (they don't if they don't need to obviously) the tyres last for hours and they are sprinting between fuel stops. I would have said Indy would be the hardest for him but he was right on the pace there, couple of slip ups at restarts but he will have learned from that for next time.

If he is in the championship hunt I don't think he would want to jeopardise that himself so would pull out. Le Mans doesn't clash with a Grand Prix, all he has to do is turn up for the Grand Prix, its not like they spend all week testing anymore. Practice for Le Mans or yet another sponsor event... hmm...

50

Alonso ran with the best at Indy until his car failed. It was very impressive.

51

Given that Fernando led the Indy 500, was well in conention when his engine did what Hondas do and that Hulkenberg won Le Mans at his first and only attempt I'd say yes, for a Formula 1 driver rolling up and being competitive straight away is entirely possible.

52

Yeah F1 drivers can do that but only Mario did that in NASCAR when he won the Daytona 500.

Here is some odd statistic. Fastest lap around COTA was in a V8 Supercar according to Wikipedia. I might need to fact check that.

53

Jdr, as jonno says that V8 time is for the shorter track configuration at Cota. For comparison the fastest lap set by the V8s in qualifying for their race on the Albert park GP circuit was 1m54.397. This doesn't compare very well with the 1m22.188 that Lewis did at the same track this year.....

54

Short circuit (3.7km rather than the full 5.5km)

55

Last year Le Mans was kind of thrilling... but this year, the lack of competition in LMP1 could make it dull. Fortunately, there are still the GTPro/GTAm categories.

56

Yeah the GT stuff is more interesting in LeMans to me.

57

Go Alonso, It would be great to see him take the triple. I wish (forlornly) that the top drivers could switch from class to class like they could and did in the 60's
But there are two chances, none and buckleys.

58

The publicity around Alonso's forays into other racing series must surely influence other drivers to branch out. The fact that we now have two LeMans winners on the grid is excellent news.
However, it's hugely disappointing that the ACO and the FIA have engineered such an expensive set of rules that they've reduced the field for LMP1 to one manufacturer. That took some doing !

Surely it's time for them to realise that there is no point in top class motor sport like the WEC trying to become politically correct, all we will end up with is a field of Tesla look-alikes, taking part in short races in silence !

At least Ross Braun realises what is wrong with F1 and is standing up to the FIA and the manufacturers in order to regenerate the series. We desperately need at least two extra teams in F1 and the rules must be framed so that they are not destined to be permanent "B" Teams.

59

At least Ross Braun realises what is wrong with F1 and is standing up to the FIA and the manufacturers in order to regenerate the series

Is he? What exactly has he done so far?

60

With Sports Car racing it's not the ACO or the FIA's fault, whether it's Group 6, Group C, GT1, LMPGTP, LMP1 and so on the manufacturers will try to win by outspending each other until the cost becomes impractical. The GT1 rules of the 90s were very simple yet Porsche and Mercedes managed to kill the series in two years by building what were little more than F1 cars with body shells.
.
For F1 Brawn (and the FIA, Liberty Media) really need to stand up to Ferrari. The money they parasite out of the series could easily shore up the finances of the back half of the grid.

61

He is desperate to be relevant after more than 10 years since his last championship. First Indy car now this?

62

Hey, we're here fighting for relevance. The whole world is fighting for relevance on...Facebook.

And his Singapore 2008 jinx is entertaining to watch, we must admit.

63

That's not me Sebee, that's the unit pretending to be me.

64

Once you and I are gone, it is great to know someone will continue to represent us in this simulation, and most won't know we're gone!

Eternal life for real.

65

If you want to adopt him Sebee then by all means, he's all yours 🙂

66

Random (no stars), Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father....

67

You should be flattered. At least a human being wants to be you and it doesn't involve your credit card. Just your F1 interest.

Few more years, and this JAonF1 comment section will be polluted by Microsoft Tay, Apple Siri and Google ChroMolly. Under various names they will exchange comments endlessly about F1 and never be able to figure out who's right and who made a point in this twisted Formula 1 world.

Pretty much like we do now.

You know, when I put it like that, it makes me want to wrap up commenting with end of 2017. I should!

68

Look at that Sebee, you found a friend.

Now quick, invite him home and lock him away before anyone notices 😉

69

I think only Alonso knows what a triple crown is. It's no more special to win Monaco than any other f1 race like Abu Dhabi or Bahrain really.

He should be thankful he was the last V10 world champion and retirement. Mclaren will win after he leaves them, but not before. guarantee it my friend.

70

There's a word to describe what it is Sebee and it isn't flattering...

71

All the best to him. He is in good hands with our Webber.

72

Toyota will probably enter 3 cars. At which point will the other cars receive the message "the car a long way behind is faster" ?

73

Three tough seasons with McLaren Honda have yielded Alonso little in terms of results or satisfaction...

...but well over $100 million in salary. So don't feel too bad for him!

74

If you think being a race driver is all about the money, then you have never raced and know little about the motivations involved.

75

Wow, relax dude.

Where in my post did I say being a race driver is all about the money?

It was a bit of sarcasm. Look it up.

76

Audi and Porsche abandoned WEC for Formula E.

If Toyota has no competition, is a Le Mans victory worth less? I think so.

But maybe history and the record-books will forget that.

77

Slightly different reason, both ultimately about money, Audi left due to diesel gate and needing the cash. Porsche quit because of the ridiculous cost, which is supposedly getting on for Force India budgets.

78

If Alonso starts aspiring to win the Index of Performance,
then we know it is over with.

79

At least Fernando won't be vying for the Triple-Outlet of racing - F1/WEC/FE!

80

hulkenberg hardly told anyone of his le man preparations. all we heard was he was taking part a couple of days before and by the end of the race he'd won.
victory will certainly bring joy to alonso and f1, more than hulkenberg did.

81
Clarks4WheelDrift

Surprised Honda don't enter Le Mans LMP1.

The Toyota's retire then they get to take a classic race victory with a variant of their useless engine...

...or maybe Honda aren't confident their LMP1 car could beat the LMP2's 😉

Great effort by Alonso, will be watching as with the fantastic Indy effort... the only true racer currently left in F1.

82

Alonso is desperate for attention and a victory... please pass on the details for our annual soap box race the weekend after next...

83

No one will say it, so it's on me I guess...

We complain about F1 cars being ugly, and they deserve it. The length, the shark fins, the crap on the fins, the halos... After all, we have standards. But these LMP1 cars...my goodness...I hate VW group and their products for that unforgivable dieselgate, but even I must admit that I appreciate Audi and Porsche helping put these ugly things to sleep. This Toyota looks like some type of Photoshop Digital Picasso effect.

84

This is a good move for Alonso.

This is exactly the kind of thing he SHOULD be doing.
I hope he goes the Indy500 again this year; did he already say he would?!?
The move of the spark of freshness he can get, he'll bring to everything, including F1!

I don't think he should even stay in F1 ,but if he does, this is good!
The prospect of McLaren being a better chassis with a better transmission than the RB, is a very, very, very long shot.
Let's not forget that the engine manufacturer has a factory team, too!
They may get the first introductions of upgrades, and RB maybe 'doing stuff' to them to optimize them on their own.
So, McLaren will get the least powerful Renault engines in 2018 (everything else you hear/read is lies, for one or another reasons).
The bottom line: Alonso will NOT win the F1 WDC in 2018!
Where can you go next, from there?!?
Could be he was driving one of the top two cars at the 2017 Indy500; why not 2018?
Toyota will have the TOP car in 2018 WEC.
If he was REALLY on the ball, he WOULD go in one or two of the real highlight FE races, too!

I actually want him to do well, and I think this is the best approach.

85

I hope Toyota wins neither of the 'super season' LeMans races. You almost have to applaud them for continuing to try, but the last two years they shot themselves in the foot, and IF they win LeMans in either of the two bookend races, those victories will be VERY empty without Porsche and Audi competing, almost '*' type of win. I would love to see Rebellion beat them regardless of whether Rebellion is in LMP2 or LMP1 next year. I would love to see Alonso win it, if that means Toyota has to win the c'est la vie, but I just don't want to see Toyota EVER win. The idea that the lay fan who may hear Toyota win the race and draw conclusions about their road cars is laughable, 9 out of 10 people that see Toyota on a LeMans race car photo have no idea it is a specialist German-designed and German-built racing machine from Cologne.

86

oh, and yes, I agree with a previous poster about Montoya, he's just jumping on a bandwagon, I'm glad his fatness didn't cripple the 919 when he tested it, I may be fat, but I'm not a professional racecar driver. Montoya better get his butt in gear before Daytona, and speaking of which, I may have to check it out in person this year if it would be possible to meet Fernando (still IMHO the best overall driver in F1, Lewis only wins in the best car).

87

Fernando is getting desperate. Retire already.

Burning bridges, a hallmark of his "illustrious" career. A fantastic driver, and might be a decent human being but he is cancer to a race team. His ego often destroys relationships. Mclaren, renault, ferrari and now honda. Too many instances to be coincidence.

I've been critical of Seb's driving but he's a fine team leader, who protects the organization even in error. On the contrary, Alonso takes every opportunity to publicly ridicule honda. The same honda, who's rumored to be paying him 40m.

Sure, they haven't provided him a competitive engine, but how much is mclaren remains unknown. They haven't made a competitive chassis since 2012. Even with the class leading PU106a they weren't 2nd in 2014... There's a rumor mclaren's size zero concept forced honda into a development dead-end, which they're just recently rectifying. With 2018 on the horizon, Mclaren-renault beckons. Finally a "reliable", "fast" PU...LOL. Let's see how that goes. No where to hide against, renault (works) and Redbull racing.

As for the triple crown, greatest driver ever nonsense - I think its a joke. He can't win in f1 due to his poor career choices and all around neediness. It's nothing more than a cop-out used to massage his ego.

Winning le-mans in a single car competition should be foregone conclusion, then again, toyota will find a way to Dnf, handing the win to a LMP2.

Being a "complete" driver requires more than on track ability. Team building is often overlooked. Seb and lewis have shown, both statistically and practically they can build a team around themselves and succeed. Something severely lacking from Mr. Alonso.

88

Montoya and Alonso should drive the same car in Le Mans next year!

89

Of course we've all seen the Macau GP finish by now?

I don't like to watch these lower formula races honestly. Just reminds me what it could be like with better car design, no DRS, etc.

90
Tornillo Amarillo

Go Montoya! He should try that.

Good Alonso is trying harder, good energy, even if it sounds like an impossibility to be successful again in F1.

91

I'd rather see Montoya get it.

92

I think Honda need to enter Le Mans and beat his sorry ass.

93

I used to think that beauty was as beauty did but that is about the ugliest car I've seen since those old Citroens with the movable headlights.

94

FINALLY! The change that we all want is coming to Formula 1 to fix everything.

....a new logo?

Exciting!

95

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