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Jolyon Palmer pleased to score “overdue” first F1 point for Renault
Posted By: Alex Kalinauckas  |  04 Oct 2016   |  10:30 am GMT  |  28 comments

Renault’s Jolyon Palmer was delighted to score his first “overdue” Formula 1 point after finishing tenth in the Malaysian Grand Prix last weekend.

The British driver, who is competing in his first F1 season this year, finally scored his first point after 16 races.

Palmer was one two drivers to utilise a one-stop strategy – the other was Williams’ Valtteri Bottas who finished fifth – during the race at Sepang, which forced him to concentrate on keeping his tyres in good condition throughout the 56-lap Grand Prix.

Jolyon Palmer

After becoming the 59th British driver to score an F1 point – 27 years after his father Jonathan scored his final F1 point at the 1989 Portuguese Grand Prix – Palmer described his joy at the result, which came a day after he was frustrated at qualifying 19th.

He said: “The race was really smooth – I wish it was always so straightforward. I was really disappointed with how qualifying went especially as I’d been feeling strong all weekend, so I’m glad the race went really well and we could make up for it today.

“The car gave me everything I needed, we handled the tyres well and the team did a great job with strategy and pit stops. We got a little bit of a break as well; finally everything came together and we got it home to P10.”

Jolyon Palmer

Palmer had the chance to score his first F1 top ten finish at the Hungarian Grand Prix earlier this season, but lost out when he spun his RS16 towards the end of that race.

The 25-year-old told Autosport that he had used the memory of his mistake in Hungary as motivation to to help him deliver this time around and stay out of the clutches of Carlos Sainz, who finished 11th for Toro Rosso.

He said: “After Hungary it was in my head, and in the last 10 laps I thought ‘just keep it on the track’.

“But I learned from it, kept focused, no mistakes, just kept the gap to Sainz, and then in the end I managed to stretch away in the last couple of laps.

Jolyon Palmer

“We had a little bit more in reserve, but I’m always learning and the trend is still improving throughout the year, even if sometimes like in qualifying I didn’t show well.”

Palmer also conceded that he had been fortunate to make it into the points as a result of Lewis Hamilton’s engine failure, but felt he deserved a break after being disappointed not to score earlier in his rookie year.

“I got a little bit of luck with Lewis and someone else dropping out, but I think we’re overdue it,” he said.

“So many times we were close, there was something going against us, but this time I was feeling good in the car, and we got a break, which was nice.”

Frederic Vasseur

Renault’s team principal Frederic Vasseur praised Palmer’s performance in the Malaysian race as he made his Pirelli tyres last long enough to execute the one-stop strategy.

He said: “Congratulations to Jo for scoring his first point in Formula 1. After a disappointing qualifying yesterday he got his head down and delivered a very good race.

“We ran to an aggressive strategy and Jo did everything required to make this work so a great effort from him and the team today.”

Magnussen “the filling in the sandwich” at Turn 1

Palmer’s Renault teammate Kevin Magnussen retired from the race in Sepang as a result of the damage he sustained in a first corner clash with Haas F1’s Esteban Gutierrez and Toro Rosso’s Daniil Kvyat.

Malaysian Grand Prix 2016

The Dane was hit by Kvyat and then ran into the back of Gutierrez as they all attempted to avoid the spinning Mercedes of Nico Rosberg, who had been knocked around by Ferrari’s Sebastian Vettel.

Magnussen explained that he was left with nowhere to go as the midfield cars came together, but conceded that it was simply a racing incident.

He said: “I was the filling in the sandwich as everyone reacted to the Vettel [and] Rosberg incident at the start.

Kevin Magnussen

“Everyone braked and went for the inside of the corner which isn’t great if you’re already at the inside of the corner and have contact from behind pushing you forward.

“[But] that’s motor racing sometimes. We changed the front wing and kept pushing, however the brake cooling was damaged, and the brake temperature kept climbing, so we had to retire.”

What did you make of Palmer’s performance in the Malaysian Grand Prix? Leave your thoughts in the comment section below or head over to the JAonF1 Facebook page for more discussion.

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The obvious choice for Renault F1 is to resign both Joylon Palmer and Kevin Magnussen. They have both done well in an inferior car, and they have both been improving lately. IMO Ocon should not be considered cos his results have been rather poor.


I was glad to see Palmer finally get off the mark. He’s had a dismal season, all things considered. The car has been bad and he’s had some rotten luck, but you’d also have to say the pressure’s too often gotten to him when he has had the chance to do well. It hasn’t gotten to Magnussen in the same way and that doesn’t reflect well on Jolyon at all.

Unless he performs at least this well in the remaining races though, I suspect that’s it for him in F1. It’s a shame, because he really hasn’t done himself justice. In terms of ability, I’d put him somewhere between Max Chilton and Paul di Resta, probably nearer Paul. He would mature into a very capable F1 driver, given time, but that’s the one thing drivers don’t get nowadays. You either impress or you’re out, and buying more time costs an awful lot of money. As someone who worked with and for Jonathan Palmer in years gone by, I can tell you the one thing the old man absolutely will not do is throw good money after bad! Jolyon would make a cracking sports car driver though, and with the WEC in the ascendant that’s where I’d be steering him.


Unfortunately, I do not believe WEC is anything like “in the ascendant,” in fact I would say that 2017 is going to be a very poor year for endurance racing, mainly because the ACO has been dicking around with the rules and has decimated the P2 field.. Sure BMW has just signed up but that’s in GTE Pro not LMP1 or 2 where they would be most needed and appreciated..

Tornillo Amarillo

The news are… Kvyat hit somebody again! And Mag too.

Two crucial weeks for Mag and Palmer. Renault seems now to be lost when in fact so many good drivers are looking around a seat. First they let Grosjean leave. Now I think they don’t need a pay driver, so why they have so many problems to lure a good driver, like Perez or Bottas? In the confusion, Palmer can get some hope, not for having shown his abilities, but for the inability shown by Renault to confirm somebody who can lead the team at least for a couple of years. If they confirm Mag maybe Kevin could do it, maybe not… But Palmer being rehired would mean such a fact that could state how Renault’s management is not going to make it in 2017, isn’t it?


I’ll roll the dice and bet both Magnussen and Palmer get retained by Renault for 2017. If Palmer does not get retained by Renault the second roll of the dice says Palmer gets a seat at Manor.


I think Renault were trying hard to get a big, established talent from further up the grid to be the main man they rebuild the team around. With Perez turning them down, they seem to have run out of candidates now so they may elect to stick with the current line-up. They could equally try someone younger or richer alongside Magnussen.

Personally, I thought Hulkenberg should’ve gone for them. A step back in terms of car performance, sure, but he’s looking increasingly stale at Force India and needs to recapture the kind of form that had him linked with Ferrari a couple of years ago.


Would someone mind explaining to me what exactly about this was “overdue”??

What is overdue about a rookie pay driver in a “rookie team” scoring a point….a point which was scored only due to attrition, as opposed to raw skill and pace.

Entitled much???

Me thinks JP will be piloting the Sky Pad next year, or a tintop next to Will Stevens


Where do you get the idea that Jolyon Palmer is a “pay driver”?


It’s overdue in the sense that a number of points scoring opportunities have been lost either to bad luck or careless driving. Some opportunities have been taken away from him, some he’s thrown away. All it means is that really, he should’ve scored before now.


Palmer seems to be one of those guys who has real talent but needs to be given some time to get up to speed. I think that is exactly where the line for F1 is and should be. F1 doesn’t nurture, its brutal and quickly reveals whether you have what it takes or you don’t. It is not the best drivers, it is the best of the best drivers.

Sadly I think we will see JP as another driver who got his chance but shown the door.


I was pleased to see Jolyon earn his first point in Malaysia. He strikes me as the kind of driver that needs a lot of seat time to build up his speed. With no in season testing he just won’t get enough laps to prove himself in F1. I recon sports cars are his best bet as I don’t think Renault will retain him for next season.


I guess the balance wasn’t very good for the Britons.
Jolyon won 1 pt.
Lewis lost 25 pts.

Jolyon must have a powerful HEX xD


Lewis was on course to be attacked by Verstappen and may not have won anyway. Why do you think he had his engine turned up to bursting point.!!


Hell, we all know what Lewis is like when he has to change settings on the wheel. Maybe he put it into a wrong mode or something like at Baku.


Everything seemed to be going fine until someone released stories in the media. Palmer didn’t seem to react well to that but Hungary was a nail in the coffin, me thinks.

I’m sure he’s faster than Barrichello and at least as fast as Massa.


I have been watching Joylon for a while now, he is definitely improving this year, he has had a few rubbish moments and also some real promise showing.

Renault is full of politics and Nationalist promotion, funded in part by the French government and EU money they were spending … so being a non French driver there is tricky in the extreme. Maybe they have already signed someone else, or maybe they are giving him a genuine chance…. his performances should be increasingly giving him some hope.


Palmer said ‘there was something going against us’ – he must mean the team or his mechanics or the guys at Renault doing their best to be rubbish and improve their brand! Sebee?


@ aezy doc…that’s all been changed now, he means ‘the man who isn’t there’.


Yes I know. That’said my point. If Jolyon or anyone else says something, no problem. Lewis says essentially the same thing and is hauled over the coals for daring to speak. He shouldn’t have needed to clarify because it was obvious what he meant. Except to those who don’t like him.


Well done Jolyon, but too little too late I fear.?


Joylon Palmer scores point in grand prix shocker!

I still don’t think he should be given a contract by Renault for 2017 though. Young Ocon looks terrific, if a bit raw, but he’s pacy, and that’s what matters. The fact remains that Palmer in a works car has scored 270% less points than Romain Grosjean who is driving for a brand new, start from scratch team that isn’t even based in the Western European heartland of grand prix racing (implication – meaning Haas F1 are at something of a disadvantage in terms of quick time suppliers and “contacts”). Grosjean’s best weekend was Bahrain, qualifying 9th and finishing a superlative 5th. By contrast, Palmer Junior’s best result (so far) of 10th in MAL looks underwhelming, to say the least.

Palmer could have a good career in sportscar/endurance racing, but he’s not top notch Formula 1 material – while I reckon Ocon is.


You can only compare him to the other driver in the same car, and from where I sit there’s nothing much in it. I always think that if a driver is good enough to have one season in F1 he’s generally good enough to have two. I hope JP gets his.


Haas are only technically a new team. Realistically they’re more akin to a Ferrari B-team and need to be weighed up as such. Fair play to them – pushing the regulations to their limits is the literal spirit of F1 – but there’s really no comparison with genuinely new teams, even well funded ones like Toyota and BAR.


Yep think JP will be shown the exit door at the end of the season.
I can see JP heading to Indy Car .


Correction on Magnussen’s points tally, my bad.


Really? Drawing a comparision with Haas is like comparing apples with oranges. The Haas is a far superior car so you can only legitimately compare Palmer to his teammate, who has also scored 270% less points than Grosjean….


HAAS are based in Banbury, over the roundabout from Prodrive and Manor….


The Haas is still a better car than the Renault for all their difficulties. Why do you think Grosjean jumped ship.? Time will tell with Ocon.!!

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