Strategy more important than pole: F1 set for a wild weekend ride in Montreal
Posted By: James Allen  |  07 Jun 2016   |  4:57 pm GMT  |  246 comments

This weekend is the Canadian Grand Prix, one of the most popular and unpredictable races on the F1 calendar.

The key stat about Montreal is that it’s the least important pole position of the season. This means that, more often than not, things do not got according to plan in Montreal. Since 2000 the pole sitter has enjoyed a conversion rate to race victory of just 35%. And add in the fact that this year there are three tyre compounds to choose from and the softest one is not capable of giving you a one-stop strategy and you have what looks to be an entertaining weekend ahead.

Because of the nature of the track, high-speed and lined with walls, there is a 60% chance of a Safety Car and with very fast pit stops here of 18 secs due to a short pit lane, this is one of the races where strategy has the highest importance.

Overtaking is easy because of the long straights and tight bends, so teams have to plan their fastest strategy from lights to flag, using the tyre compounds available, but also to be flexible in case a Safety Car is deployed.

Safety Car Canada

We have seen a lot of Virtual Safety car use this season already and we can expect to see more of that this weekend. There are some situations, such as two car collisions at the first chicane, where a full Safety car is required, however. We also had a high speed accident at the end of the 2014 race with Massa and Perez, which meant that the race finished under a Safety Car, with Daniel Ricciardo winning the race for Red Bull. In 11 of the last 18 Canadian Grands Prix we have seen a Safety Car.

A pit stop under a Safety Car in Montreal costs around 10 seconds of net race time, compared to around 18 seconds at racing speeds, so if the timing is right and you are in your pit window, it’s very tempting and we will probably see quite a few switches of strategy if it’s a race of incident.

This could be a race where we see a wide variety of different strategies, like China were 13 finishers used all three Pirelli tyre compounds.

Monaco Qualifying

The Ultra soft will be the qualifying tyre, but there’s probably an argument for trying to do what Ricciardo did in Monaco and try to get through Q2 on a set of super softs to start the race on. The performance of the ultra and supersoft in race conditions was not that significant in Monaco, while the soft performed very well in comparison.

Canada is quite a low degradation track, but it still stresses a tyre more than Monaco. We saw the Ultra softs do around 150km in the race in Monaco, which equates to 37 laps of Montreal, but I think the limit will be much lower than that due to the nature of the track.

The race is 70 laps and last year the supersoft maxed out at 33 laps and the Soft at 53 laps.

So for some runners with good tyre life, one stop might be possible in various guises. But equally, an aggressive strategy with two stops and softer compounds could also be competitive. Judging from the tyres that have been selected, with Renault and Haas F1 both deciding not to take any supersofts, the race is likely to be about the Ultra Softs and Softs for many runners.

But Montreal is a strange track and the temperature fluctuations in any given day are as big as any venue on the calendar. This can often catch people out. There is some rain forecast for Sunday, with Friday and Saturday likely to escape the rain, but the prevailing temperatures are low. This could lead some teams to have issues with tyre warm up, especially in qualifying and at the start of a race stint after a pit stop.

Last year the tyres were durable enough for most to do a one-stop. This year is likely to be more like 2014 where there was little to choose between one and two stops in race time although a two stop was clearly preferable if you could run in clear air at the front.

Mercedes Canada GP

Canadian Grand Prix in numbers

Montreal is a race that tends to feature close finishes, according to F1 statistician Virtual Statman. In the last 13 runnings of the Canadian GP, eight of them have been won by a margin of less than three seconds.

Lewis Hamilton made another piece of history in Monaco as he moves closer to some all time great records. His win meant that he has now won at least one race in each of the last 10 consecutive seasons. Only Alain Prost and Michael Schumacher have achieved that. He has also now led 87 different Grands Prix, more than Ayrton Senna and second only to Michael Schumacher who led 142 races. Hamilton is closing in on Senna’s tally of 65 pole positions, he is now on 52.

Hamilton is the form man at Montreal with four wins there. He is also chasing a front row start there for the fifth season in a row. Red Bull and Mercedes are now tied on 58 pole positions each, so the battle on Saturday should be intense.

Daniel Ricciardo

Although Montreal is a power circuit, there is a big emphasis on mechanical grip out of low speed corners, which is where the Red Bull excels. With the new Renault power unit having made a successful debut in Monaco, it should give the team a boost of around 0.4s a lap compared to the old unit. This won’t be enough to put the engine on a par with the Mercedes, but the combination of factors should put Red Bull into a position to challenge Mercedes there.

Ferrari has fallen back a little of late, with tyre management issues and a deficit on mechanical grip being a couple of areas of concern. However traditionally they bring a big update to Canada, so we will see how they perform this weekend. The last update in Russia, did not move them closer to Mercedes, which was demoralising. They cannot afford to have another update that is matched by Mercedes and which keeps them at arms length.

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Looking forward to this one. Montreal always seems to throw up an exciting race.

Hamilton has to be favourite for this one. If he does win, what a turnaround it will be in terms of the championship. Before Monaco, I thought it was done and dusted and the title was Nico's but not now.


I think the weekend will be all about Ferrari, their desperate new turbo upgrade and rear suspension is what its all about. If this doesnt turn them around this season, I see great things in store for Daniel Ricci 😀


Hamilton may be the favourite, but he has never won in Canada in consecutive years, indeed his first two wins were followed up with retirements the next year. There are so many variables this time, perhaps more than usual. I suspect he will still be below 100 points at the end of this race.


best driver in the best car at his best track with possible rain which he is also the best in ... i wouldnt bet against him.


Agreed - Ham has completely owned Canada the last few years and I would expect this year to be no different. I will be amazed if Ros can truly challenge him here, I hope RBR are right up there too.

However I also always love the uncertainty that this track brings so there is a better than normal chance of upsets, which is always fascinating!


Always a good crowd at Canada with a huge Lewis fan base. So hope Lewis gets another win ????


Yep Lewis should be gunning for victory.
If the mechanics on his side of the garage get their act together and give him a gremlin free weekend. Or is that too much to ask for from Huey Duey and Luey to name but a few.


No need to worry. Those in the Red Bull garage will help Lewis out.


Surely you mean if Hamilton doesn't break another engine or gearbox or run into his team mate again.


Gary, so just to be clear then, Lewis deserved to win the 2014 WDC because Nico broke his engine in the last race of the season and Lewis didn't?


That retirement was actually due to an ERS (energy recovery system) failure.


Gary, do you really think that distinction aids your standing?

So to carry on from TimW, you believe Nico broke his PU in Abu Dhabi '14?


Gary, ok so Nico broke his energy recovery system and Lewis didn't! The drivers have just as much chance of damaging the ERS as they have of missing a shift and damaging the gearbox, or over revving the engine....


too much info missing from this post
-Lewis had suffered plenty unreliability at the start of that season
-He was leading the championship by 24 points going into the last race
-There was that double points thing for the final race

not sure if you are or aren't a Hamilton fan but context goes a long way when looking at who does or doesn't deserve a wdc


Hamilton has the best finishing rate of all drivers with over 100 GP's. Specious narratives are easily slapped down by cold, hard facts.


Gary- [mod] as Martin brundle has explained many times they way in which the cars are setup and built it is virtually impossible for the driver to damage the gearbox through his driving and gear changes. The engine is in a very similar situation and I'm sure he won't hit his team mate again as long as Roseberg doesn't come out of corners in the wrong engine mode and then close the door way to late in him!


Last point first, the FI Stewards and the DSO disagree with your assessment of the accident, meaning that Hamilton was just as much to blame as Rosberg. Keeping in mind that they have far more data to base that decision on than we do.

In relation to the gearbox suffering "damage", the term Mercedes used, not "parts failure", or "wear and tear" etc. There is an opinion expressed that the damage may have occurred when Hamilton's Merc was hit from behind by Bottas in Bahrain, which was caused by Hamilton fluffing the start (again). So the driver, in this case Hamilton, most certainly can cause damage to occur to his gearbox by his actions, in this case his poor starting technique.


Surely the same goes for his Team mate Rosberg which has made it an art to park his car in Monaco. Swipe Lewis at Spa ?!!!!!!!


I've been thinking a lot about tire strategy over the past couple of days. The weather here in Montreal took a nose dive last Sunday and my weather app forecasts cloudy conditions through to race day with a high of 15 on Friday, 17 on Saturday, and a miserable 13 on race day. Lows of 8 on Friday night & 12 on Saturday night won't help. Track temperature will be quite low. Which teams do you think this favours James? Teams who struggle with warming up the tires could be in for a disappointing weekend.


That's Ferrari then.


Red Bull


Reckon Canadian Grand Prix has more claim to being the European Grand Prix than Baku.
Awesome race circuit especially the Wall Of Champions.
Hope Lewis goes full beans on the race circuit and grabbed another win.
If Williams don't shine here also then they are 'really peeing into a bucket through a straw'.
Force India could be a likely candidate for a podium. Red Bull and Ferrari may end up in their own tussle in the mid pack of the pack .
Maybe Red Bull will give D.R. some comforting hugs while optimising Max's strategy...again.
While DR chokes a chook ????in his side of the garage ????.


At least he's smiling again 🙂


Now there's a mouse that got the cheese


It's like looking at a pair of puppies ???? (go on mod let me have this one)


Can understand while DC is smiling???? I think we all would if we had that beauty on our arms????????????


Who could blame him. Plenty of reasons to smile...


He won't be when Max has the right Red Bull Strategy and he has the Webber strategy ????????????????????????


Plenty of booby traps to avoid this weekend.....


Dam those Booby Traps. There so easy to fall in too ????????


I couldn't agree more. Incidentally, Eastern Canada was once part of the same landmass as Western/Northern Europe, and Montreal is on the same latitude as Venice - thinking back to the 2011 Canadian GP the aquatic and canal analogies seem very appropriate.............Jesus, that race was straight of the Good Book, The Old Testament Part 1 being the Great Flood, The New Testament Part 2 being the Miracle of Lazarus (Button) comeback.

I wouldn't go round wishing Lewis Hamilton good fortune on this forum BK! You know the bile and dislike he arouses. I mean, think back to when he was booed in Melbourne, and the comments on this forum that he "lucked into" his victory at Monaco, blah blah blah. It makes you wonder if this well spoken, well mannered inter-racial tyro can do anything right, can he? Even if he wins on Sunday in a commanding style it will be "oh he's got the best car" sour grapes. Don't say I didn't warn you!

Having said, I've never heard any booing in Montreal for LH or anyone, but the Canadian spectators have always been above such nonsense, so good on them. Let's just hope after all the prima donna behaviour of the last few weeks has been used up for the year and just drive hard, but fair, and win lose or crash accept with good grace the result. I mean, it's not as if anyone was badly injured or died in Monaco, is it? That put things into perspective.

Anyway, enjoy the races, I'm off to France to watch some European football festival live in the flesh. Good luck to all the countries, may the best team win. As Fernando Alonso, Felipe Massa, Romain Grosjean, Carlos Sainz Junior and the Hulk are all very keen on European footie, so they may even after Baku pop over to France to sample the Beautiful Game (Massa can be an honorary Portuguese).


Hey Gaz Boy, I bet, come Sunday afternoon, your focus won't be 100% on whatever game you will be watching. Once in love with F1 always in love with F1.


I wouldn't go round wishing Lewis Hamilton good fortune on this forum BK! You know the bile and dislike he arouses. I mean, think back to when he was booed in Melbourne, and the comments on this forum that he "lucked into" his victory at Monaco, blah blah blah. It makes you wonder if this well spoken, well mannered inter-racial tyro can do anything right, can he? Even if he wins on Sunday in a commanding style it will be "oh he's got the best car" sour grapes. Don't say I didn't warn you!

Having said, I've never heard any booing in Montreal for LH or anyone, but the Canadian spectators have always been above such nonsense, so good on them. Let's just hope after all the prima donna behaviour of the last few weeks has been used up for the year and just drive hard, but fair, and win lose or crash accept with good grace the result. I mean, it's not as if anyone was badly injured or died in Monaco, is it? That put things into perspective.

WOW! Victim Complex? Mr White Knight.


Maybe you should stop pasting huge chunks of other posters comments then place a very lazy soundbite from yourself. Very tame.


What a completely useless comment!


Hey Buzzzzzzzz, welcome back. Either I've not been paying attention or you've been on the missing list 🙂



Nice to be missed.

Not been using the system that much as every time I post I have to fill in the name and email section and thats a pain as the system does not seem to save it.

I have asked james and alex about it but no reply!!!!!How about it guys, is it my computer or your site?


I have to re-key my name and address each time as well. If I'm honest it doesn't bother me. But to answer your question - it's not just you.


Sorry we didn't see that. Will get the tech guys to take a look


Vettel was booed in Canada... What are you talking about??


Making accurate analysis and commentary of F1 that is not positive about Lewis Hamilton is not hating.

Stop being so sensitive.


"Making accurate analysis and commentary of F1 that is not positive ..."
That's very true. Trouble is, the legion of Hamilton haters on here don't tend to go in for accurate analysis!


Unless a comment is glorifying Lewis, the lovers take it as criticism.

Can't understand why people would blindly worship a complete stranger. Seem to be fans of the person, rather than the sport.


Have a great time GazBoy
Will also be watching the Euros (on TV) avidly, hope England at least get to the Semis (or further????). France and Germany are favourites followed by Spain then England in the betting. That's good in away with England having less pressure. Hoping the likes of Russia get knocked out in the first stages that would put a huge smile on the faces of the West. That with the Euro vision loss will be a kick in the teeth for the Harry Potters Goblin lookalike Putin !! ????


england have always been about 5th favourites in euros? England may have in form attackers this year but the defense is the worst for a long time.


England should edge Russia's ageing squad. Interestingly news broke yesterday that one do their best players was involved in a doping cover up, there is a documentary about it tonight.


"England should ..."

How often have those two words been used with reference to the national team, and it then went all pear-shaped?

If England go in with no expectations at all, and stay that way, then it could be good for them. As soon as they buy into any hype, they're toast.

I think it would be for the best for them to come up against one of the favourites (Germany, Spain, not so much France - hosts and all) early on. I don't think England will get over their beat-a-big-team-in-a-knockout-game hump deep into a tournament ... more likely to happen at the R16 stage.


Haha you are spot on KRB!

Although to be fair in the last World Cup everyone thought we would do badly and we did!

There is a bit more optimism this time around as the team has moved on from 'the golden generation' and is full of young promising players. Realistically it is a squad building for 2018 World Cup but will be interesting to see how they get on in France. Quarter finals would be a step in the right direction.


QFs?!? I'm tired of just getting to the QFs and that being okay. It's now 20 years on from Euro '96 and their last SF appearance. They need to get into that last 4 sharpish.


Well we haven't even been in a QF since 2006 so I am trying to stay realistic! As I said, this young crop will gain good experience from this tournament and go again at the 2018 World Cup. Let's see how far they can go in France.


They got to last 8 at Euro 2012 ... lost to Italy in what else, PK's. Now they've added the R16 stage, with the 16 from 24 format (not a fan). At least it's better than the 3-team mini-groups they tried in 1982 WC ... that was horrendous.


I'm surprised Australia hasn't tried to apply for the European Championship. I mean they've done The Euro vision Song Contest.
Though the European teams would have a very easy win against the Aussie team.


Haha P Kara. Yes, probably the one sport where we have the Aussies covered.


To say he didn't have an element of luck in Monaco is naive.
He drove a good race, made a call on the tyres that paid off and capitalised on the Rb pitstop error.
We're not LH ' haters ' if we point that out.


was it luck too that he kept riciarddo behind him for so long when he was on worn out full wets and riciardo was on fresh inters on a pratically dry track?


@sarsippious.....wolffie has come out and said that hamilton's win in monaco was 'in part due to a big chunk of luck'. as for haters, well that term is totally incorrect. if his supporters insist on using that term then we are quite entitled to use the opposite when referring to them. which is.....hamilton lovers.


maybe it makes up for the bad luck he had in the last race of his debut season where he kicked alonso's ass and should of won his first championship...


Kenneth, I don't think anyone is trying to say that Lewis' win at Monaco didn't have an element of luck involved, the problem was the "haters" seemed intent on describing it as 100% luck and not recognising that Hamilton's great driving had anything to do with it at all.


I think"drove a good race" says it all. That's not luck, that's talent.
Winning anything needs some kind of luck. Ask Verstappen, Rosberg. But we better wait before we ask DC because he hasn't had any of that "luck" yet.
By the way, I thought Lewis drove fantastically as did DC, but one talent had a little bit more luck than the other talent. That's racing for ya.
Roll on Canada????



True, but if you choose to ignore the probability that he would have been on pole if not for yet another car issue, and the fact that he was held up massively by a freakishly slow team mate in front of him until he was a quarter of a minute behind... then it kinda looks like you're bias is making you ignore facts. Which in turn can kinda look like hating...



'Probability' is 'probably' stretching it. Over 3 tenths around Monaco... Many believe Ricciardo would have still been on pole regardless.


"Probability" Hamilton would've been on pole without the qualifying issue? Based on what exactly?
It is possible Hamilton could have set a better lap time had he had two clear runs, but that is just a possibility not a certainty and even if he did set a better time there is no guarantee he would've been faster than Rosberg never mind Ricciardo.


is this the same Rosberg that with out any incidents finsihed almost a whole lap behind Hamilton ? i think it takes more than just a 'good drive' to do that..


I would agree with you, there is no guarantee that Ham would have been quicker than either Ric or Ros. But based on the fact that Ham has out qualified both Ric and Ros every single race so far this season when he hasn't had some kind of mechanical gremlin or other, it isn't unreasonable to suggest he might have done the same again. Ham was ahead of Ros in FP1 ,2 and 3 and ahead of Ric in two of the sessions, he also got fastest race lap - so it was by no means in the bag for either of them. But at the end of the day it's all ifs buts and maybes - he did have a problem and only got one run in Q3 so we will never know what might have been.


Couldnt agree more C63. Thing is most people dont respect how much a perfect build up is required for every quali in F1 none more so than Monaco.It was certainly possible. I remember Alonso smashing everyone by half a second at Monaco 05 fists pumping, Flavio elated. Crowd went mad! Almost everyone thought that was The Lap!. till Kimi came out and blew him away by another 1/2 sec.One of the best laps Ive ever seen - maybe only Sennas 89' lap better.Just goes to show-You just never know-! until the very best have been given "equal opportunity"- this combination of words should be interchangebale with "rare" in the F1 dictionary.


Without wanting to sound pedantic, you may want to look up the definition of "probability". It doesn't mean "certain" as much as you seem desperate for me to be wrong.


You might be right that without his problems he would have set a better time but we will never know. It is not as if he is a class on his own regardless of how good he is. I am not his best fan for sure, so l am surely bias, but as far as being excited with regards to the race to follow, i feel whenever the Mercedes do not occupy the front row, we get better races. Regardless of who wins at the end. Marc


i dont like him either but he the best driver on the grid. i mean in his first season he beat a double world champion in his prime and should of won the championship if not for bad luck who else has ever done that?


Marc, firstly, hats off for being a poster on here who doesn't support Lewis but can be constructive and reasonable about it. Not enough people like you on here!

I'm a fan of Lewis, but I'm a fan of lots of other F1 drivers too. I certainly don't think he's in a class of his own, there are plenty of incredible talents on the grid but he's right up at the top no one can argue that. Although I concur that there are plenty of glory hunters who think he's the best thing ever and look daft because of it.

Regarding the races being better when the Merc's are out of contention, I'd be daft to say that's not the case too. Yes I'm a fan of Lewis but before that I'm a fan of the sport, and without competition, the sport suffers (although it seems CVC would like to push the sporting aspect away anyway!).

It just so happens that one of the top three drivers on the grid (my opinion) is in easily the best car. Until there's a challenge, yep, sadly, it's a bit dull. But then I've had to sit through 5 years of Schumacher and 4 years of Vettel. Both of whom I thoroughly dislike. So I'm enjoying (mostly) my time in the sun, even if it's a bit dull at times!



To be honest I think lots of fans found the Vettel 'domination' years quite exciting with 2/4 seasons going to the last race with different teams. Not much chance of that happening in the Mercedes Hyperdrive era. ????


Yet you agree with what I said as being true yet I'm ignoring facts that make me look like a hater?



Yes I agreed with what you said, and yes, if you selectively ignore facts (and probability!) it shows a bias that could be seen as hating. It's pretty straightforward, struggling to see what you're not understanding.

However the "f" in your initialism shows your class. Maybe just relax a bit mate!



I think "he" (as am I) is struggling to see the hate in his original comment.


Your yet to state what facts I'm failing to suggest.
My comment is based on facts that occurred in the race, not hypertheticals and what ifs throughout the weekend that you seem to imply that would or could make my comment seem biased.
If that truly is your ' case' then it's an extremely weak one.
Feel free though to make judgements on my personal character all you want.
Must be lonely up on that pedestal your perched upon.


Those 6 years I spent at Uni obviously wasn't enough to help me understand how that initial comment I posted somehow makes me a ' hater' still.
Please though, do help.
What facts have I selectively ignored to give you that impression?
I personally thought I summed it up rather simply and effectively.
I'll be sure to leave any token cuss words out of any further abbreviations in the future lest I find myself being questioned on the class, or should I say ' lack of ' I seemingly don't possess.


Those 6 years I spent at Uni...

Did any of your studies include spelling and grammar?


Didn't Muhammad Emwazi go to Uni aswell?????????


@sarsippious Easy mate. It's all banter. Honestly.

Enjoy the race. Hope Danny does you proud.


Mes, I'm actually a Kimi fan if I'm pressed to pick anyone.
Was extremely impressed by seeing Danny Ric ring the neck out of that Redbull In Monaco though.
I've got admiration for the way Lewis drives as well, although he annoys the life out of me with his off track demeanour.
Doesn't mean I'm unable to give credit where it's due though.
Each to their own..


I'm sure we know what the "F" stands for and yes very low brow
indeed. Sarsippious keep sniffing the daisies it's summertime !


Well stated Mes
Pretty obvious what Sarsippious
is presenting in a disguised derogatory statement. You make your own luck in racing. But you also have to have the talent to exploit it, in the dogfight on track.
Just something Sarsippious sarcasm might have missed !


@ biffa can't make luck.


@KRB...your last post arrived but has not appeared 'being literary' my comment really was supposed to be TIC but obviously you took it as another opportunity to diss on me. how often have you seen the ridiculous statement, 'you make your own luck'? luck means the same as 'pure chance'. it cannot be manufactured and much and all as some people like to think that they are being clever minimising this aspect in order to push a particular agenda they are really only 'pushing their luck'.


... and it's impossible to get 110% out of a car, etc. Why are you so literal?!? Do you think they literally meant actually creating luck out of nothing?

When hard work and preparation meet opportunity, that's luck. Lewis took care of the former requirements, so was able to get "lucky" when the opportunity presented itself.


Blinded by his dislike for Lewis mate. I sometimes wonder if people hate him more than they like the guy they support!

All good fun though!


You are not for real!!


Dislike for Lewis...
You guys crack me.
Remember, this stemmed from my initial comment stating he drove a good race, made the most of the opportunities that presented themselves and how a little bit of luck helped him along the way.
Somehow though you spin it so I'm a hater.
I'm happy to give credit where it's due, as I just did, however I'm not going to get caught up in the hype of the collective and give an Oscar for a well played informercial.


You'll be pushing to dislodge the hamiilton lovers no matter how much careful thought and well presented your coments are. i happen to agree with you.


Sarsippious- "made the most of opportunities"-- now you've crossed the line. Remember Lewis Made those opportunities by taking a decision his team did not want. He Made up 12 sec on Ricciardo to catch up lost time stuck behind Nico and he Made those wets last. Yes he took his final chance when RBR- but what he then Made his ultra s last when nokne expected they would (emphasis added FYI) It was all those things he did before that was nothing short of inspired and put him in a position to take the win & that my friend is what makes a champion!. 6 years at Uni wont help you hide that and if you cant work out why it was a great victory- Im sorry but you may need another 6 more.


Derogatory? Are you for real?
Re-read my comment and show me where you come up with that.
In your haste to level criticism at anyone that dares to suggest Hamilton's drive in Monaco wasn't the greatest of all time, your seeing ghosts that just aren't there.
I made a pretty simple observation, it's hardly rocket science!


Your points are basically sound. Hamilton did benefit from the RB8 pitstop. He drove a very good race to be able to take advantage of that wayward pitstop.

Might Hamilton have snagged pole with a clean Q3? I think it's reasonable to believe he could have. He was faster than Rosberg all weekend, by a comfortable two-tenths.

At the end of the day, there is a reason why a driver like Hamilton can "steal" races like that, while someone like Rosberg can't manage it.


@ KRB, you are aware i suppose that toto wolff has stated that, 'a bold strategy and a big push by hamilton and an EVEN BIGGER SLICE OF LUCK, enabled hamilton to win the race. in other words, the major pivotal point in his win was down to ricciardo's bad luck and hamilton's good luck. i think that this argument can now be put to bed.


LOL, Last Word Kenny!

Now Toto Wolff is the greatest authority on F1. I thought just last year that he was the cause of everything bad about F1, because he didn't agree to supply Red Bull with engines? ????

Lewis had bad luck on Saturday, and some good luck Sunday ... it was only going to be RIC or HAM to win that race. Turns out it was HAM. It's not the first time he's won a race he shouldn't have.


@ your statement inferring that i treat wollff as the 'greatest authority on F1'? rubbish. at least he is a credible source and knows more about F1 than most of the 'pundits' posting here. he is being honest about what happened. it just appears as though you cannot accept that. given both you and wolffie's explanations i will defer to the only one who is qualified and we both know to whom i am referring?


Kenneth, my head is spinning trying to keep up with the number of times you have contradicted yourself this week, now you say Toto is a "credible source", it was only a couple of weeks ago you were insisting that he was telling flat lies by claiming that the Merc customer teams received equal machinery, and that Mercedes do not tell their customers how to vote in strategy meetings!!


I think the point [which you are apparently avoiding] is that you cannot reasonably hold someone up as an expert witness one week and then, when they say something which you disagree with, claim they are a fool. This is something you have done several times, Lauda and Wolff are two examples which come to mind. Oh, and the stewards are another 🙂


As TimW said earlier, no one is disputing that luck played a factor in Lewis' win in Monaco. It just wasn't the only factor, just as Wolffie said. I fully endorse how Wolff summarized it ... a nice smash 'n' grab.

Wolff said it, so that's it forevermore! 😉


@ KRB....there is a world of difference between hamilton's problems and those of red bull that occurred in the race. i may be wrong but i presume that you are referring to the 'mechanical ' problems? if so then that is hardly the same as bad luck. usually a mechanical failure has a point of recognition. in otherwords there is an area of known failure...usually structural. the red bull failure was one of a systems failure/interpretation leading to a locational problem which led to a lengthy pit stop. no one could have possibly foreseen that and it was that incident that caused the problem for red bull. mercedes were handed that win as a result. it was 'pure chance'. that's how i see it. if i'm wrong then so be it but ATM no one has convinced me otherwise.


no one could have possibly foreseen that...

Really?? The tyres were in their blankets ready to use if required - it's not unreasonable that the strategist should be aware of their location and have an idea how long it would take to fetch them. It was an operational error and one that Red Bull have claimed will not happen again as they have now introduced protocols to avoid a repeat. Hams bad luck was the problem with fuel pressure didn't manifest itself until after he had left the pit box and the resultant delay in getting him back costs him one of his Q3 runs. Both had bad luck, as KRB said, and for sure Rics bad luck cost him dearly but it's disingenuous to claim that Hams bad luck on Saturday didn't cost him as well. As KRB said , this isn't the first race which Ham 'shouldn't' have won but the fact he was in the position to take advantage of an error by Red Bull was not luck at all - it was skill and nerve that put him there. And the fact he did what he did by taking on the ultras was, without any question, the catalyst for the events that followed at Red Bulls pit stop. If he hadn't taken the ultras then Red Bull would have stuck with their original decision and then Ric would have won. I think this argument can now be put to bed.


Ricciardo admitted as much in the press conference yesterday, that Mercedes and Lewis going to the ultrasoft's wrong-footed the Red Bull crew. That it needlessly wrong-footed them, doesn't reverse the fact that they were put in that state by Mercedes and Lewis.

Case closed, put it to bed, tuck it in, then bury it under metres of earth. Ricciardo said it, it's done! ????????????


@ are joking i presume? an overheating fuel pump is a systems failure? yes, a failure in the fuel system but as an individual element, unless specified to be other, the overheating would most likely be a mechanical one/ probably friction related. however seeing as you a fount/font of information maybe you know better, so do me a favour and enlighten me. as a point of interest where are you posting from? if you are posting from the UK isn't it breakfast time?


You're splitting hairs again kenneth, just like Gary and others of the same ilk. To borrow and change a famous quote, hair-splitting is the last refuge of Internet forum trolls.

Please look up the definition of 'system' or 'systems'.

I'm Canadian kenneth, coming to you from Hogtown (that's Toronto). ???? I was watching the Stanley Cup playoffs, and fell asleep on the couch before the end. So when I posted is when I got up.


Apropos of nothing really, but I got married in Toronto (Mum was Canadian). Always like to see the Maple Leaf 🙂


Interesting ... is your bride Canadian? Both my mom and dad are from families of 6 siblings, but the majority (on both sides) immigrated to Canada. I now have just two aunts back in England, and one in Spain. Three remain in Ontario.

You're not Dan Snow by chance? ☺


No, we're both English . My mum was Canadian and she and my dad met when he was stationed out there during WW2. They got married in Toronto (where she and her family lived) and we got married at the same Church 45 odd years later to the day! Ah, how romantic ????


Rationalizing at its worst. What is an overheating fuel pump if not a systems failure?

Red Bull failure was not an internally generated error. They reacted to an external force (Mercedes putting on ultrasofts). Not a purely unforced error.


Six years at University and you are not able to distinguish the difference between 'your' and 'you're'!


ha beat me to it, or the difference between hypothetical and hyperthetical. Cant even blame autocorrect for that one.


So glad your comment generated an email to me at 4am so I could wake up to the knowledge I've misspelled some grammar.
Thanks ????


3...2....1.... and


Did I win the dream holiday or is my prize Dusty Bin ? ????


LOL - Spelling and grammar are not one and the same.


Ur... Covers everything 🙂


Haha. Watch out for the grammar police Sarsippious!! You know they're struggling when they resort to schoolboy pettiness ????


To be fair Nick, he cannot reasonably try to add weight to his POV by highlighting his 6 years at Uni and at the same time expect others not to point it out when he drops a grammatical or spelling howler.


Yeah, if you're going to put that out there (did he major in F1?), as some claim to brightness, then you better follow it up with being bright.

Like someone telling you they played semi-pro football (soccer) and then having feet of stone during a kick about. It's credibility sapping ...


Hope they've cleared all the Ground Hogs off the track. Last time there were a few still playing frogger ???? on the track .


Biking on the circuit almost daily (other than GP week), I can attest that the neighbouring Ile Ste-Hélène harbours at least one very well-fed "marmotte", as we like to call them. Last winter was mild. Expect a groundhog or two.


Good to know Rob ????
What's the weather hoping to be like this weekend around the circuit?


Unusually cold for this time of year. Some chance of rain. Forecast changes every 12h. Environment Canada's latest prediction for Montreal is here:


Cheers Rob ????


One unfortunate driver might get the message on his radio: "The groundhog is faster than you. Please let him pass."


So who will Red Bull favour in race trim.
Max or Daniel ? Who will end up on misery avenue? The Aussie or the Dutch kid. I reckon the Dutch Kid is golden balls at Red Bull.
So team will be helping him all the time.
Lewis for the win.


@big Vern
I hope your wrong. Max is a fantastic talent and will give us some entertaining races, but DC is just as good and proberly better just through his F1 experience.
Red Bull would be fools if they put all the eggs in one basket. I can see DC WDC before Max.


So will it be Verstappen Jr or Kvyat meeting the wall of champions?


Kyvat runs into cars only. Nothing stationary 😀


DR for trying to hard ????


Verstappen was born in Belgium.


Boris Johnson was born in New York????????


You are correct...
Max was born in Haslett Belgium (apologise for the spelling of the town)..
But he drives under the Dutch Flag.


He is Dutch whatever info you have is wrong. He may reside in Belgium.
But he is as Dutch as a Wooden Clog and assume is a local champion at Dyke Jumping !


But he is as Dutch as a Wooden Clog and assume is a local champion at Dyke Jumping !

Had a good chuckle at that mate!


Nice one Mes
I'm glad some one got it ????????


South Holland?


Rosberg was born in Finland, lives in Monaco but somehow everytime he wins they play the german anthem.


He was born in Germany, his Dad was born in Finland

His licence is German, that's why that anthem plays.


Though it would be better if he had the Monaco Anthem seeing how he has spent 95% of his life in Monaco.


I would say it's more than that - he only spent the first few weeks (4ish) of his life in Germany. He also calls Monaco his home race during interviews.


Yeah its bizarre unless a German passport gives you easier access to more countries it makes little sense.

If my dad was Finlands first WDC and allround top bloke I would want his nationality first!


I would imagine it has something to do with $$$. There's a lot more people living in Germany than Finland - or am I being cynical 🙂


For sure it was done with possible sponsorship in mind. Keke was well established in German racing at the time with his various Team Rosberg outfits, so it made sense.


It's true Montreal is a fan favourite for with the wall of champions looming, this means every lap becomes an exercise is survival

Indeed, Montreal is a difficult track to master so much so that we have seen 18 one time winners since the track came on the calendar in 1978

Regards tyre strategy, we saw in 2012 with Alonso that it's always better to have fresher tyres otherwise you will get overtaken

Overall, Red Bull's performance this weekend will be of keen interest to the fans as it will show what step Renault has made making the fight for podium places that more intense.


Some Montreal stats

Been racing since 1978

1) We haven't had a back to back winner since 2004

2) The only back to back winners are Alan Jones and Schumi >>> Schumi did it twice from 1997-1998 and 2002-2004

3) Only drivers to have won in different teams are Schumi, Piquet and Lewis

4) Ferrari is the only works team with more than 1 win otherwise, Renault, BMW and Mercedes currently have one win


We usually go to this race, but cannot attend this year which is a real shame as it is always exciting and as James says, unpredictable (including the weather). We will have to watch as much coverage as possible and I am so looking forward to this race! Will be there again next year...


Meanwhile with Schumi, Piquet and Lewis being the only drivers to have won in Montreal with different teams

It's a funny coincidence that their wins there are similar to the number of titles they won

Maybe this could be a good omen for Lewis that he will hang up the helmet with 4 titles


So you're predicting no more wins in Canada for Lewis between now and when he retires?


@ The new JC

Good question

Unfortunately I do not have an answer for it could either be yes or no


To be pedantic, strategy is always more important than pole! A 15 stop strategy from pole position would be unlikely to win the race! Maybe RedBull should consider that for Danny Ric!


Williams will do well in Canada. They have performed better than expected in both Spain and Monaco in terms of race performance. Their race pace was competitive around the twisty parts. They have an efficient chassis with smaller rear flaps. Though I expect them to run with larger rear wings than Red Bull and Mercedes just to compensate the lap time deficit in the first sector.


Funny, I thought that Williams under-performed at Monaco. I know their car is better suited to fast tracks, but that just means their chassis is really bad.


"larger rear wings"

There are limits on the maximum dimensions and limits on the the overall positioning of the rear wings in the F1 regulations. There are also limits on the number of elements and their dimensions. In simple terms, no one runs a "bigger wing" than anyone else, they can of course adjust the angles of attack of the wing elements. Generally expressed as running "more wing", not "bigger wings" as that would be illegal.


You understand the point, right?


Not really, Merc have the most power and they utilise that power advantage to run "more wing" than most others. This creates additional drag which often (but not always) reflects in their lower top speed than the other teams running Merc engines. Particularly Williams, with Bottas and Massa not often far from the top of the speed trap data. It's not unreasonable to have the view that the Williams run less wing than the Mercs, not disregarding the fact that the William chassis overall could well be more "slippery".


Im pretty sure he is implying that Red Bull and Mercedes will be ruining with smaller than maximum rear wings, indeed we often see Red Bull running a skinny wing on high speed circuits, meaning he is correct to say Williams will be running a 'larger' rear wing by comparison, potentially running the maximum size, again compared to a skinny wing on the bull, to make up for lack of downforce otherwise inherent in the car.


Ferrari are reported to be bringing a new turbo and rear suspension for Montreal.

Mercedes should be too quick, but the battle between the Prancing Horses and the Bulls should be interesting.


I'm going to predict a routine uneventful GP with Mercedes 1-2. I'll flip a coin and say Rosberg brings this one home.

Jakethesnake snake

Will be interesting to see how Rosberg recovers from the embarrassment that was Monaco. Must have dented his confidence somewhat, having to move over and let your teammate and title rival pass you because you are too slow.


He's stayed motivated after two years of domination! If he wins this championship (by whatever means) it will be some feat.


Sebee, I would have said that looking at the previous performance at this track of the two Mercedes drivers would be a more reliable guide to the likely outcome than flipping a coin.


Quite apart from the fact that flipping a coin would suggest the results of a GP were simply a matter of chance, I thought you had read the 'script' for this season and the 'fix' was in. What's happened - you have gone from 'knowing' the results to simply guessing in a matter of weeks? Have they revoked your pass or something?


Not every GP needs to have a finger on the scale. Considering the previous 2 GPs I'm simply taking a line of normalcy returning to the circus.


Ah I see - not all the races are fixed. Only some - is that about right ?


That's exactly right. Intervention based only on need. You can't have constant intervention.


How's the Pepsi Poll panning out?


Well you refused to drink it so we are a little short on our sample size! I've had almost 15 cans but I can't manage anymore, so unless you're willing to hold your end of the log I'm afraid we won't be able to publish the results 😎


I drank a whole case! It was all Coke (apart from the bourbon I mixed in) I'm a bit woozy and still unsure of what we're trying to achieve...


Well, when you sober up I might enlighten you, or I might not. You were very dismissive to start with and now, for whatever reason, your interest seems to have been piqued. On principle though, I'm reluctant to discuss this matter further as I don't generally offer a second opportunity after my first invitation has been declined!


After a thorough Googling of the matter I am also reluctant to discuss it further!


Or maybe they'll give each other the ol' 1-2 like they did in Spain.


I love this race track. And what a city too. It's the furthest I've ventured from the UK solely for an F1 race, I can't recommend it highly enough.


What are the odds on Max Verstappen stamping his mark on the Wall of Champions?


First let him become a champion. We have a few champions this year, who haven't touched the wall yet.


I'll give you 2:1 Max smacks it. Others will be Rosberg, Botas and Palmer. Then it can be simply referred to as 'The Wall'.

Looking forward to quali and the tussle between Ferrari and Red Bull for higher points places. I think Ham has this one in the bag. Praying for rain and an Alonso podium for some variety. Jenson, Top Gear is calling.


I'm going to stick my neck out & say 0%!!


It'll be interesting to see if Lewis can make a good start. He doesn't seem to have been able to recently. Monaco was different as it started under safety car, and luckily for him he was able to turn that into a win.
Looking forward to seeing what max can do with the improved engine too.


Although Lewis is favorite you can't help but think something unusual might occur. I read on another site that Ferrari has spent 3 tokens on a upgraded turbo for vettell which they're hoping for a improvement that was promised on the last upgrade.......


Lewis owns this track, hopefully he can have a clean straightforward lights to flag win. No qualifying car failures, no dodgy start, no racing incidents and no botched stops.


Boring hope


No excitement?


Sir Tease, I think Lewis is due an excitement free weekend. Hopefully it will be a real humdinger, behind him.


I think we'll get a humdinger. I'd like to see Lewis involved.


Sir Tease, usually I would agree, I love to see Lewis in close combat, but my nerves can't handle any more shocks for a while. I'm hoping for pole, good start, steadily pulling away from whoever is in P2, and stroke it home. Hopefully Lewis' race is so boring the director chooses to ignore him and concentrate on all the action down the field.


Have your wish TimW. I won't be watching this one, just following a live feed. So it matters not to me how the racing looks... Very interested in the results however.


I'll second that and maybe I'll log in under a different name and third it as well 😎


Well said TimW, I will third that 🙂


Thanks very much 63C, always nice to meet new people.


C63, I can't imagine anyone would have multiple identities on this site.....


Well,I should stress that it is only a rumour at this stage (much like the hat indoors and elbows on the table) 🙂


What?? Who? Where?
Is Sebee also Aveli? I've been wondering...


Sir Tease, Sebee accused Aveli and me of being one and the same once!


Classic technique to deflect suspicion...


I'm offended. I'll comment 40 times under my name if necessary and passes mod. Why would I hide or need another name?


I think it's a yin an yang thing...


Great track, one of the best of the season. I don't believe Ferrari are as bad as people are making out, it's just a case of making the tyres work properly, especially in qualifying. Their car seems to have a small sweet spot in terms of optimising the tyres. I don't think the high pressures help! Ferrari v RB should be good this weekend. Merc probably out of reach on this track but we shall see.


Yeah I don't think Ferrari is just going to slip into 3rd and that's that. They have a new turbo, rumoured 0.4s/lap gain. Then a new rear suspension, to help with qualifying.

Looks like rain on Sunday, possibly Saturday too.


Well it's almost a guarantee that we'll get a good race if the weather turns up as forecast. Rosberg's probably not so over the moon.


I agree i cant wait for this one....what a race never dissapoints!!!!

This one will be closer than previous events and mercs will have to run full power to win think.....order being ham, vet, ric, ves,ros

I am really enjoying this season, before monaco i thought ross will lucky this year and be champion, but after lewis just having a clean race you think hes going to win a forth title......after monaco i thought ros is a good drive but ham in a excellent driver .....and monaco proved the diff between a good deiver and a excellent driver

James i would like to know your thoughts on this and if you agree or dissagree

Finally i really want to see the true pace off the renault it really that good or did rebull flatter with there chassis in monaco???


No Kimi in that list.


Are you all forgetting last year's race?! It was utterly mundane, exacerbated by all the fuel-saving lift and coast rubbish,


It seems like a long time since anyone has whacked the wall of champions in a race, and I don't remember Lewis ever hitting it.


This year might be his/Lewis year in that regard. Marc

Ricki Sanguinetti

Very interesting race ahead.Come rain or shine,it will be Lewis to the fore.


Looking forward to the next 2 months of racing!
Point of interest:
How good is the Renault engine?
With Max getting the new engine this weekend, looking forward to Daniel vs. Max. Can Max keep up with Daniel, especially in Quali
Will Ferrri's updated turbo & suspension make a difference or are they going to be off the podium again?
Most importantly, can Nico get over Monaco disappointments? Or this is when Lewis starts his dominance??
Hoping for 3 teams fighting for the pole and the win!


Really looking forward to not only the Gp but also how Ric comes out after his Monaco disappointment.
Hopefully the engine upgrade Redbull had in Monaco wasn't hid by the special nature of the track and it really is able to bring them closer to the Mercedes on a low downforce, high speed track that is Montreal.
Would love to see all three, Mercedes, RB and Ferrari within a few tenths of each other so we have the tussles at the front we all yearn to see.
Enough of the off track talk and drama, let's see it on the track.
May the best driver win ( not so much the best car).


Still with the double backhand remarks. In that case...
Sarsippious ye ol'mucker (east end Cockney speak)
Well that's Lewis and Mercedes sorted.
Best Driver Best Car being World Champion.
Then the Williams
Then the Force India
Then the Ferrari
Then Toro Rosso
Then the Mclarens
Then maybe Red Bull
Followed by
Sauber Manor.
Mosultoff ????


It's a conspiracy.....
Seriously though, I'm flattered you seek out and reply to my comments for no apparent reason.
Your desire to make everything about Lewis is concerning.
These derogatory, back handed and sarcastic messages you believe in aren't real.
My life and every comment I post here does not revolve around Hamilton. It's actually a pretty good feeling, you should try it ????


Well said...again and again and again.


Kenneth, the guy says that not every comment should be about Lewis, and you agree with him?!!! I am going to stick my neck out and say that of all the regular commenters on this site, the one who has the highest percentage of Hamilton based posts is you.


It's a pity you don't hold yourself to the lofty standards you expect of others.
And yes, I will keep sniffing the daisies as no doubt it's better than what your nose is buried in...


My nose is never buried in anything Sarsippious.
I'm as free willed as the next man.
Though I do like the smell of napalm and gasoline in the morning also also a bottle of bourbon wrapped around the latest edition of Hustler ???? and a pair of of high powered specs ???? as I think I'm going blind???? from the....drinking????


Fair enough lol..


Relying on team orders to pass his teammate and a major Redbull error also helped facilitate that win.
Making those wets last was sound driving, although he really had no other option to when Ric pitted first, otherwise he would've given up track position and as he showed early on when he was stuck behind driving Miss Daisy ( that's Rosberg by the way), overtaking was something even Lewis the great struggled with.
When Toto was asked after the race about the call on strategy, he mentioned how it was a decision from both the pitwall and Lewis to stay out, yet Lewis was quick to say it was all on him.
Funny that isn't it. When he wins it's all because of himself yet when something goes amiss it's the team's fault.
He's becoming more like Alain Prost everyday ( he's a 4* World Champion, around the time you were born it would appear) .
If you truly believe that's one of the greatest wins you've seen then you haven't watched enough F1..


Sarsippious, Lewis forced Red Bull to bring Ricciardo in for interns first by being so much quicker than him on the full wets. If RB hadn't reacted to Hamilton's pace he would have undercut Ricciardo and gained track position anyway.


That's not accurate. The gap stabilised after an initial closing by Lewis.

In fact I just check James Allen's strategy post and he wrote this:

"It was now just about Ricciardo’s pace relative to Hamilton on similar wet tyres and protecting a lead. Hamilton had closed initially when he cleared Rosberg, but Ricciardo was able to then hold him at 12 seconds."


I wasn't born when Prost was winning his championships .
I remember them well as I watched them. As an 10 year old at the time. Yes I've been to GPs throughout my life. Only missed 4 home grand prix since the age of 10. I have seen to name a few ....Andretti Hunt Lauda Watson Senna Prost Mansell Hill Frentzen Schumacher Mika KImi Hamilton Button Vettel Hamilton as Champions.
So I have seen some real changes in
Car development demise of teams and deaths in the sport.
Now then where did I put that Mag and Bourbon ????


I seriously doubt Williams will be anywhere near the front. More likely they will be eating dust of RB and Ferrari like they have all season. They should start work on next year's car already if they have any sense.


@ nick H ...yes, williams have been decidedly underwhelming all season so far. they appear to be somewhere between top and bottom mid field. smedley is sounding more and more like sam. their drivers are both uninspiring as well. they seem to lack any flair and excitement. ho hum, hum,hum.


Underwhelming is an understatement Kenneth.
Williams have either already given up on this year's car and are putting all their eggs in the 2017 car.
Or they need a new design team.
They maybe fast in the speed traps around Canada but in terms of race readiness the car lacks Zip on the Zag and Zag and the Zip. The car always loos as if it wants to go a different way unless it's man handled in the braking zones.


Underwhelming is an understatement Kenneth.
Williams have either already given up on this year's car and are putting all their eggs in the 2017 car.
Or the need a new design team.
They maybe fast in the speed traps around Canada but in terms of race readiness the car lacks Zip on the Zag and Zag.


Looking forward to seeing the pecking order at this round. I suppose Merc will still be at the front. However after they were beaten on true pace in Monaco it will be very interesting to see if they can be challenged by RB at this circuit with it's differing requirements.
Psychologically, an important race for Rosberg. He needs to compete or Hamilton will steamroll him. Personally I can't see it happening.
DR says he has put Monaco behind him, we'll see if that's true this weekend. Hopefully the garage can stay out of the way and we get a straight fight between him and Max. Though RB being RB there might always be question marks in that regard.
Gypsy Lady Crystal Ball prediction... Ferrari to be VERY strong.


+1 for Gypsy Lady Crystal Ball. I hope it is right.


For the record...

“At Monte Carlo it gave us exactly what was promised, which was about 0.2s,” he said. “That certainly helped to achieve pole position, so hats off to everyone in Viry, they are doing a great job at the moment.

“The upgraded power unit has delivered exactly what Renault said it would and that’s certainly a positive as we head towards more power-related circuits. We’re relishing the prospect of the next few races.”

Christian Horner.


Nice to hear RB mentioning their engine by the name of the manufacturer rather than the watch badge. Hope they can sort out their differences and give Max a car he deserves. It's looking like it's going in the right direction.


This was a quote cut and pasted from a FOX news site. I have since seen the same interview elsewhere where he specifically refers to the PU as a TAG-Heuer PU...


Will be more on power circuits obviously


4-5 tenths by reports.
Just wanted to catalogue his praise for Renault 🙂


James, what about the undercut? It is a quick laptime compared to most other venues. So the undercut will be more difficult? What do you estimate is the maximum gap for a possible undercut move?


We'll have to see once they run the tyres but warm up on out lap could be an issue for undercut.

Overtaking is easy in Montreal so undercut is not the only way by


I hope the RBR is close to the Merc, Max can get p2 then and heap misery on Rosberg.

Seeing Max outrace Ricci will be fun, eventually we will see a decline in deluded conspiracy theories from his countrymen as he Webberises.


One of my favourite races of the year. Often produces a great event, last year being a bit of an exception.

Hoping that both Mercs get a fair run at it. Lewis will slaughter Nico if the weather is sketchy on Sunday.

Looking forward to the pressure cooker at RB giving us some entertainment. Max with the upgraded engine will be interesting. I think they've played it right there. Let the number 2 use it first to get Max wound up then watch him go!


Joking, before the DR fanatics have a meltdown! Speaking of whom, let's hope he doesn't get "screwed" by his team again or his bottom lip is going to be like a DCS (Drag Creation System).

Looking forward to some sweary outbursts from Seb. If they're behind RB again there's the chance for much hilarity!

Hope DK can get a solid race under his belt, my god he needs it.

And finally I hope that Sergio can get another good result. He can run well here.

Whatever happens, a good race would be the best result. Hope you all enjoy it.


Wild Ride? New Ferrari Turbo that aids powering it till end of the long straight? Perez to Ferrari?


Hope you are right as far as Ferrari getting a boost. Would love to see a fourth winner for the season and 6 or 7 different winners by the season end. I am very poor at picking winners in all sports but i have this feeling that Vettel will be on the top step of the podium this SfeelingOne can always hope right? Marc


Either the turbo will catch fire like Australia, or Ferrari get back the half second or so people say they toned down their PU by after Australia. We already saw a fight for the win between the Oldest and Youngest driver with Max and Kimi; Also the most aggressive overtakers Ham and Ricci went at it in Monaco; What remains to be seen is the German pair of Nico and Vettel slugging it out for a win and the honor of being the top German driver in the next race!


As with every GP, i am excited about Sunday's race. We have been spoiled this year so far with the exeption of the Russian GP and hope the Canadian GP follows the vein. I am hoping for a Ferrari win, preferably a Vettel one but will take a Kimi victory with pleasure. The wall of Champions has not been much of a factor the past few years/races, hope it plays a role again this year. If as forecast, the rain is present on Sunday, it should be well worthwhile staying awake for me as the race start is at 2 am where l live. Hoping for a fine race tegardless of the winner. Marc


The fact that Ultra softs can last 150km is remarkable. I would have expected something more along the lines of 25km.

Shouldn't by definition an U.s. tire be for pure speed and have a big fall off? Something for immediate gain? You shouldn't be able to manage an U.s. for 150km in my opinion.


Yes but that's Monaco

It will be less at Montreal and Austria


But 'qualifying tyres' (which is what these were being described as)' never lasted 150km in the past, even Monaco.


James, I had the mother of all questions I have been meaning to ask, maybe you would be able to answer after checking the rule book!
When Kvyat and Max exchanged teams, while they took their own points along to the other car, the PU allocations didnt carry over with the drivers but stayed CAR specific.

Thus, Max inherited Kvyat's PU parts change schedule and vice versa.

So its car wise I get it.. but now, WHAT IF AT THE END OF THE YEAR within the same team itself we find one driver who can prospectively win the WDC but is faced with a grid penalty for say change of gearbox or a Power unit element change, taking it beyond the allowed quota for the year; If they SWITCH the two drivers within the garage between say Car+PU Alpha and Car+PU Beta.. the Title Contender could get away with not having to take the grid penalty while his team mate takes the penalty driving the car afflicted by the quota limit? Shouldn't this be possible?

If anyone in the world can find out, its probably you! And if this is indeed possible by the rules now, will they block it if you ask them? 🙂

They did allow Max and Kvyat to inherit each others Quotas! So...


There is nothing in the rules that specifically would prevent that, that I can recall. You can be sure there would be, if a team tried it.

But say Ricciardo is close in the title race, but is near a penalty. You could have him and Kvyat swap seats for a race, one where the Toro Rosso might be close in performance to the RBR car, and then have Kvyat take the penalty in the Red Bull, then switch back for the next race. The only limit is that any one team can run a maximum of 4 drivers in a season.


No I cannot see how that would be allowed


But The Engine Quotas are CAR specific, and drivers can change cars like max and Kvyat did.

I guess the reason for change of car must be a well worded clause 🙂 But is it really 😀 Redbull lawyers are the smartest.. maybe we will see them eventually displaying some fantastic wit if push comes to shove, with something even more complicated. If they deflect their wings, god knows what else they can deflect. So much fun!


I am praying the ultrasofts work a treat at Montreal and provide some real racing.


Buoyed by his win at Monaco and changeable/ wet conditions - Lewis will romp away with another Canada victory. If its dry he will win even more comfortably. Ferrari & RBR will exchange paint and so too Williams and Force India. Best brakes & best brakers win in Montreal. We've seen big names fail with their brakes here.. So fingers crossed they last and we get a good indication of RBR / Ferraris PU upgrades.. Really keen to see if Ferrari have impoved their traction with the rear suspension upgrade- this may decide whether they can compete at the remaining races!


James, has just posted a video of a lap of Montreal in 1992 from Michael Schumacher.

What happened to those beautiful curves towards the end of the lap where he passes the car in front? I never knew these previously existed. Shame they seemed to have got rid of what looked like a fantastic little sequence of corners.


One of my favourite GP's of the season, love the high speed tracks. Canada always delivers a twist of some nature too. Bring it!!!


Montréal, quelle belle ville!
And great for Formula One racing.
The weather has been weird this year, with a stalled, cold, dry spring suddenly 'hotted-up' to steaming 30 degree weather within about two days, now we have dropped down to spring-like temperatures (what climate change!?)
At the time of my writing this comment, it is 8 degrees Celsius at 09h20 EDT (5 hours behind the UK).
Tires will be a factor with the crazy temperatures!
While Friday and Saturday should get into the low 20s (still cool), Sunday currently has a forecast high of only 16 degrees!
Any team having difficulty getting heat into the ultrasofts, are going to want to use the tires that they can best get heat into, what ever compound that may be!
If you are going, where a warm jacket, as the wind may shift around to be coming off the water.

So it's hard to tell, but this is a power track, and Mercedes are the favourites.
That being said...
... there is internal strife at both Mercedes (no, it definitely hasn't gone away) and Red Bull (with the new photogenic superstar-kind taking the stage).
Aggression like this may lead to a roller derby; I expect attrition, and lots of safety cars, a key strategic consideration.

In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the (even more than usual) uncertainty.

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