New US team Haas F1 confirms Ferrari engine and technical support
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Posted By: James Allen  |  03 Sep 2014   |  4:57 pm GMT  |  57 comments

The new F1 team from the United States, Haas F1 Team, has confirmed that it will receive widespread technical support from Ferrari when it makes its entry in 2016.

Using a model first pioneered by Force India with Mercedes and McLaren and since copied by a number of smaller and middle sized teams, Haas will use the Ferrari power unit and gearbox as well as other technical support. This provides a stable and proven back end to the car, so resources can be channelled elsewhere. That said, the model hasn’t always been successful as Caterham’s experience with the Renault engine and Red Bull gearbox in recent years shows.

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More detail of the technical partnership is not given but this could include things like strategy tools, which are expensive to develop from scratch and which can easily be bought from a third party supplier quite effectively.

Haas is unlikely to need wind-tunnel support from Ferrari as it owns the Windshear tunnel, a 180 mph rolling-road wind tunnel in Concord, North Carolina. However F1 rules stipulate a maximum of 60% scale models for F1 tunnel testing.

Haas is the largest manufacturer of CNC machine tools in the USA and wants to use F1 to promote that business.

Haas’ F1 team will be based in Kannapolis, North Carolina, where his NASCAR team is based. This will design, develop and build the cars. The team will have a European base for rebuilds and fast turnarounds. It’s not clear yet whether this will be close to Ferrari’s Maranello base, which would make sense on one level, or in the UK where the majority of teams are based. Air freight to long haul races goes from London and Milan.

The two are a natural fit on several levels; the USA is Ferrari’s most important market with over 2,000 road cars a year sold there. New Ferrari team principal Marco Mattiacci also has extensive American experience having run Ferrari North America for a number of years. The sense is that the dialogue between Haas and Mattiacci has been positive and that this is a long term arrangement which gives Haas a leg up in F1 and gives Ferrari another profit centre and an important additional foothold in the US. Haas was announced early this summer as a sponsor of Ferrari in the short term.

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Former Jaguar F1 team boss Guenter Steiner (above) will head the operation.

“There is no team in Formula One more accomplished than Scuderia Ferrari, and no team with more history. They’ve been a part of Formula One from the beginning, and now they’ll be a part of Haas F1 Team’s beginning,” said Gene Haas. “Formula One is the pinnacle of motorsports. It showcases the latest technology and is the most competitive form of racing in the world. Aligning Haas F1 Team with such a tenured and successful company in Scuderia Ferrari provides our team with the greatest opportunity for success in 2016 and beyond.”

“We’re delighted to announce this important strategic partnership with Haas F1 Team and to welcome an American player as a new entrant in Formula 1,” said Ferrari Team Principal Marco Mattiacci. “A few months ago we joined forces with Gene Haas on a commercial level and this is the natural next step of our growing relationship. While our objective is to reinforce our power unit development program for all our customer teams, we believe this new partnership has the potential to evolve beyond the traditional role of supplying our power unit and all related technical services. The United States continues to be one of the most important markets for Ferrari and it offers many interesting opportunities. We look forward to supporting Haas F1 Team in its efforts to become a competitive player on the Formula 1 grid.”

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Craig, since he wants to use F1 as a springboard for expanding his business internatiionally, it makes pefect sense that Haas appears confident in what he, his company and his engineers can achieve, even in such a challenging formula. Put another way, gushing about the European competition and speaking about how hard ti will be to compete with them can hardly be expected to encourage European companies to switch over to him for their needs.

As has been pointed out, the deal makes perfect sense for Ferrari/Fiat/Chrysler because of the importance to them of the American market. American fans will quite naturally be rooting for the team and their engine supplier. Furthermore, if the Ferrari power trains remain uncompetitive next year, it will give Haas a short-term excuse for their backmarker sttatus. In addition, it is highly unlikely that he will be able to attract front-line drivers at the outset, which will again reduce public expectations.

Will they succeed out of the box? No. Nor do I believe that they expect to. However, since one of the great failings of Ferrari seem to be with respect to their wind tunnel and capability of analyzing the data therefrom, his companies experience (and success) in that regard may even give them an advantage over Ferrari in one critical area, as time goes on.

Whatever the case, it will be fun to watch!

Brad

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Because this particular piece is titled “NEW US TEAM HAAS F1 CONFIRMS FERRARI ENGINE AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT” (and not “The never-ending Lewis-Nico barfight”):

As both an American AND an F1 fan, I was puzzled to hear Haas interviewed on the grid a few weeks back. I can’t recall the race, but I believe he was speaking with Brundle; he was asked why he was entertaining F1, and he flatly answered that he wanted to expand his business into new markets. He was afforded ample opportunity to, I don’t know, say something challenging about the formula, and seemingly couldn’t be bothered.

Now, I understand that without the business aspect at this level of racing, there is no racing – fair enough. That said, if Haas can’t even be bothered to gush a little about being part of the ‘Big Boys Club’, even if it’s just for the cameras… Never mind. This is not going to be pretty. And I hope I am completely wrong.

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This just reminds me of the Haas Lola team sponsored by Beatrice in the mid eighties.

That went well…

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Gene Haas’ primary shop will be in the Charlotte Metropolitan region, which has a major airport (Douglas International) and favourable climates (especially in the winter). The Penske INDYCAR teams moved from Pennsylvania in 2006 to the area. It’s a well-known motorsport hub.

Ferrari, whose majority ownership is FCA, might play with the badge on the engines with the Haas team. Don’t be surprised to see an SRT or Mopar name on the Haas engine, as SRT is Fiat’s US performance brand, and Mopar is their auto parts brand and has a very deep loyalty base, even in Europe (Fiat’s US brands, Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, Ram, and SRT, are colloquially called Mopar by enthusiasts, and since Fiat’s takeover of Chrysler, was used by Ferrari at their winter event in Italy to promote the Jeep brand with its off-road reputation). The “Mopar Haas Formula” name would arouse fans.

Young engineers would definitely want to start in Charlotte, and we might see ideas from Gene’s other motorsport sponsors that could come — Exxon Mobil and InBev (Belgium) are already sponsors on Haas’ other team and might just come to the F1 team.

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Re: SRT/Mopar branding.

Don’t think it would happen, but if it did it would be awesome!

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The sooner F1 stops messing about with also rans and goes to 3 cars per team (or at least customer cars) the better.

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Why? We’ll still have back markers and teams struggling for cash.

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I’m optimistic. Ferrari engine will be better next year. Haas will obviously be back markers to start but they will have decent resources to build on. Relocation to the US would surely appeal to many engineers/designers.

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Not optimistic about this, hope it works but I’ll be a believer when they are on the grid in Australia.

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Look at it this way: They can’t do worse than USF1.

By the sounds of it Haas has some experience and he knows what he’s doing. In time we’ll find out if he underestimated F1 as Fernandes did, but for now I’m cautiously optimistic about his chances.

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I don’t have all the facts so correct me if I’m wrong but are there not several other F1 teams based in Britain that are failures? Knowing this, why shouldn’t Haas do it his way? He is not assured of being successful by basing in GB.

I think his team will be competitive with teams such as Force India immediately and within 3 years have drivers on the podium. He has knows what it takes to win, has lots of resources, and will enlist the best engineers and drivers whether from Europe or USA.

To be frank, I think there is a lot of negative wishful thinking towards a US based team on Brit sites. Now that he has partnered with Ferrari……you know the rest.

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Today Alonso, Vettel and Hulkenberg have thrown their weight behind Nico Rosberg in the propaganda war led by Lewis Hamilton and the Mercedes management. I think one reason why Mercedes is willing to put the blame solely on Rosbergs door is that they havent signed a contract extension with Hamilton beyond his current 3 year deal yet and are eager to continue under the condition that Hamilton wins at least one championship with Mercedes. If Hamilton can´t win this years or next years championship(s) with such a car-advantage his recruitment will be rightfully considered as a mistake and heads will start to roll around this time next year. For several obvious reasons Nikki Lauda would be the fall guy, so Lauda has a reason to support Hamilton over Rosberg for now at least. If Hamilton doesnt win the title this year and has an unconvincing start next year, not to mention the competition is expected to close up next year so no more easy wins, there will be some sort of epic fallout sooner or later and then things really get interesting.

And thats when the 3 aforementioned drivers and possibly Bottas come into play !

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@lemon duck

Nikki Lauda would be the fall guy, so Lauda has a reason to support Hamilton over Rosberg for now at least…..

That doesn’t explain why Toto was so critical though – Hamilton was recruited by Lauda and Brawn.

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This is interesting to consider. Let’s play devil’s advocate.

Perhaps Lewis doesn’t have a deal beyond 2015 at this tpoint because MB (Toto) are open to getting Lewis off the books for 2015 and want to get the most they can for him from Honda, or more if possible for early release? So talking him down may impact his value and thus can’t be done by those in the know?

Lauda can always play many cards to explain the move. First, win or no win – getting Lewis on your side increases your odds of success, and it does take away motivation from another team, who may have challenged. So it can be said with reasonable confidence that getting Lewis is both an offensive move and a defensive move that increases odds of success – we can all agree, right?

Remember, that this is the 5th year of MB in F1, and they got their tails handed to them by McLaren first 3 years. So even after this year, which with WDC should count for more it is still 3 seasons McLaren and 2 seasons Mercedes on the scoreboard out of 5 before all McLaren links to Mercedes are broken. I always said that McLaren was willing to submit on the grounds they needed an engine to bridge to Honda Power. Mercedes wanted to cripple McLaren to be the winning Mercedes team after 3 years of looking a fool. No one said it, but we all knew it. It was in everyone’s interest to do this at MB – Brawn’s, Lauda’s, etc. Taking Lewis was a big part of that cripling and parhaps also convincing key McLaren staff to join Mercedes.

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Entirely reasonable.

However, Lewis won’t lose the WDC without obvious excuse – reliability or luck.

The truth is that already Lewis’ value has been exposed. Nico is beating him in the WDC standings, and with Lewis not in this car, what exactly changes at Mercedes? Wouldn’t they be leading WDC with Nico and WCC as well if anyone else was driving the second car? Be honest know…

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C63, you are absolutely right. Even more importantly with the push on more entry level models Mercedes clearly wants to market to a younger demographic to ensure they associate to the brand early and move up the product chain. Which for you means, time to start taking a closer look at that AMG CLS, and you can be sure the F1 championship C63 is already finalized going to production once math confirms results.

Speaking of marketing, have you seen the ikea bookbook Apple like ad 2 minute ad? It’s pretty well executed marketing and funny.

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@sebee

Vettel indeed is not delivering ROI this year. But a few points are important on that evaluation Random. First, he is not getting paid the money that Lewis and Alonso get, right? ….

In my opinion there is a great deal more to ROI with a driver than just their on track performance. It’s all to do with marketing – the big corporations are in F1 to promote their product, whether that be a car manufacturer, bank or whatever.

Take Motogp for example. Valentino Rossi has not really been the force he once was for quite a while. I still think he is fantastic, but it’s clear his powers are fading and the new guard is taking over. He is, however, still the highest paid rider by some margin – why ?- it’s because the public love him and he ‘sells’.

If we look to F1, JB reputedly earns 4 x the Hulks salary or 16 x Bottas – is that because he is 4 x or 16x the driver? Of course not. It’s because he is good representative for a companies products, clothes, shampoo whatever. He wears it or says its good and people go out and buy it.

Lewis Hamilton is important to an F1 team not just because he is a top class driver, he is also an extremely popular driver – I think I read somewhere he was considered to be the

second most marketable driver in F1 after Alonso. Don’t underestimate the selling power that Lewis represents for Mercedes or how how important that is when deciding on drivers.

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Agreed, from that perspective it makes sense. Maths with Sebee is always fun and informative 🙂

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If I may spin this another way Random, and put another little tid-bit on the table for us to chew on.

If Mercedes get Nico to the WDC, does Lewis’ price tag go up or down in the negotiation? Does Lewis’ negotiating position with Mercedes strenghten or weaken?

It could actually be said that Mercedes could gain a lot by not having Lewis win the WDC, not only in form of negotiation angle, but in terms of cost for Lewis, should he decide to stay at MB.

Say he doesn’t want to stay at a lower price for next little while. Mercedes could then play up Lewis and have Honda McLaren try to buy Lewis out fro 2015 at a huge cost to get some of the spend back from prievious 2 years to pump funds into 2015 car while costing a larger chunck of Honda F1 budget. Call it also a payment for MB Engine Info that Honday surely benefited from somewhat.

Would actually be a nice play by MB if executed.

Just random thoughts Random.

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Random,

This is strictly a $ for $ ROI evaluation.

Comparing Nico to Lewis on that scale, I think it is not out of place to say based on salary what is the ROI as of today. And in this case, Mercedes would be in exactly the same place without Lewis as an expense. And in this case I pick on Lewis, because we know he’s getting paid a hell of a lot more than Nico. If I was cutting costs, I’d cut the one that’s highest and doesn’t change the net result, right? I almost sometimes feel that Lewis to Mercedes was also a defensive move to neutralize a potential competitor team.

Vettel indeed is not delivering ROI this year. But a few points are important on that evaluation Random. First, he is not getting paid the money that Lewis and Alonso get, right? We regularly hear about that fact. Could be also because Flavio or whoever menages Lewis isn’t getting 20%+ in Vettel’s case, so it doesn’t have to be so high. To the team, by cutting out this management fee, it reduces costs as well. So while Vettel is more expensive than Daniel, it’s not as large a gap as I understand the Nico to Lewis gap to be. It should also be noted by me once again that Vettel just brought back home 4 WDCs and is running around with the #1 this year – he’s earned some good will I think on that basis alone. From accouting perspective, I can still add this year to his 4 WDC years, divide by 5 (maths with Sebee!) and I’d come to a nice number that under any circumstances any team would accept for 4/5 WDC seasons. Add this car change, new baby, lots of things may be contributing to an off year, but that it’s the point of the discussion – it’s just ROI.

For balance, let’s look at Alonso and Kimi. Kimi gets a nice chunk of change, but Alonso is a huge $ benchmark. This year in this car Kimi is being outdone by Alonso. No one there can make the argument that Alonso isn’t the one earning his check, even if that check is insultingly excessive. Luck or no luck, Kimi has not matched Alonso performance this year, and has indeed contributed to the preception that Alonso is the bee’s knees even if some of us know that Kimi and Alonso are more evenly matched than it shows in this car. There was serious potential really that Kimi would make Alonso ROI look bad this year – imagine if that happened? Of course Alonso does anything he can to take the spotlight off himself lately, like declare Lewis best driver on the grid. How can British fans and media not like him after he says that? Right? Oh yes…I think I remember a few possible reasons – but this is not the time.

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“Lewis’ value has been exposed”

Come on Sebee – I know you’re not exactly pro-Hamilton, but even for you that’s pushing it. It’s the same as saying that Vettel’s value has been exposed and I’m pretty sure you don’t believe that so what’s the difference?

They’ve both had a bad year with a lot of bad luck, but that doesn’t mean they were rubbish before, it just means they’re having a bad year with a lot of bad luck.

Think of this way – even the best bands usually have at least one bad album, and this is theirs 🙂

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I cannot help thinking that maybe I would have picked an “English as a 1st Language” team as my supplier.

While many non-British teams have their factories in the UK, Ferrari does not. Although English is spoken to the media, the technical stuff is surely “bloke to bloke” in Italian. Good technical Italian will be needed.

Ok maybe Haas could be Italian American, but the impression we get here in the UK is that half the USA speaks Spanish and the other half American. It is only when one dives into an American technical package that the differences in our common expressions come to light. (It seems ridiculous to have to get help to find out what “Normal” means. In this case, obviously when you know, it means at “right angles”) (Funny that I worked on the drawing board for an American company for two years and the term never came up, but that was 45years ago, with scale rule and Mifa pencils)

Well one can only wish them the best of luck, they are certainly going to need it.

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The two are a natural fit, for reasons James pointed out. Not surprised at all by this news.

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They’ve picked a bad location and now a worse engine.

Now I know why Caterham is still in business: they don’t think they’ll be in last place next year.

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Firstly, lol 🙂

Secondly, Caterham *might* beat Haas in 2016 (if they’re even still around by then) but history tells us that we should never ever underestimate their ability to fall short of their targets.

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Alonso and Vettel agree that Hamilton is wrong is accusing Nico of purposely crashing. What now? Can everyone handle these views? Think of the children and JAonF1 servers!

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/9454664/Drivers-come-out-in-defense-of-Rosberg

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@Sebee

I had no idea you valued the opinion of Alonso so highly. If I had, I would have shared this quote earlier 🙂

Spaniard Alonso on Wednesday said:

“In my opinion,” he is quoted by Italy’s La Stampa, “Lewis Hamilton is the best driver.

“I don’t know what problems Vettel is having this year, but I have not changed my mind about him — he is not the best.

“It is others who have to change their opinion,” Alonso added.

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Alonso has santander money behind him. Lots ot it. Ferrari want to hang onto that money as much as possible. Vettel has no Santander money to take a good chunk of.

As for pressure, Vettel has a 57% win percentage in F1 including this season. As in, he has won a WDC 57% of his full seasons in F1. I think there is much more pressure on Alonso, who is about to complete 5th WDCless season at Ferrari, with minimal hopes for 2015 and worse Ferrari season and car in 20 years. Looks like a winless season too for Ferrari. And just for apples to apple, he sits on a…wait for it…14% WDC win percentage. Hopefully that number goes to single digits as far as I’m concerned, as he enjoys that Singapore win trophy. He never seems to clue in that in may be bad luck for him. Has he been lucky since we learned about it but he decided to keep the win and not step up and do right?

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@Sebee

You should know better C63. This is Alonso helping put pressure on Lewis with a nothing to lose comment…..

You should know better Sebee. This is Alonso helping put pressure on SEBASTIAN with a nothing to lose comment.

The rumours of SV moving to Ferrari will never quite go away – can’t hurt Alonso if he makes sure they don’t get too comfy 🙂

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He may not be the best according to Alonso, but the numbers clearly disagree with him. I’m going to go with the numbers on this one if you don’t mind.

You should know better C63. This is Alonso helping put pressure on Lewis with a nothing to lose comment.

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Alonso and Vettel didn’t point fingers at Hamilton, all they said was Nico couldn’t have done it on purpose, without explicitly accusing Hamilton of any wrongdoing.

Talk about twisting the story with words…

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Kristiane,

I’m always ready to discuss and I have to take exception to unwillingness to discuss. I’m always ready to discuss and change my view or admit I’m wrong. It is what we do here.

I agree that my choice of words is sharp, but I can’t see how Alonso’s and Vettel’s views are anything but a direct disagreement with Hamilton. Your example of praising one is not a good one in my.view as in that example everyone is attempting to achieve the same goal and you are praising one as best achiever. And just to be clear you would only praise if you are trying to arouse competitive spirit. There is a clear immediate interpretation by children for example that when you praise one others may feel put down as result – so you can see how even that plays out clearly black and white. I have a bunch of kids 😉 – I’ve seen this play out in fact and as a result I’m more conservative with praising.

Now back to this case. Since it is a binary scenario, and in my opinion one view excludes the other, I just wish to understand how for example me saying “it was an accident” isn’t directly also saying “it wasn’t on purpose”?

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Knowing you from your past comments or replies, I’m not going to continue with this thread as it’s just hopeless, you can stubbornly continue to argue however you want, but that doesn’t make your point more valid or make any more sense.

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Sebee I am not arguing with you whether Alonso or Vettel disagreeing or agreeing with Hamilton. I’m saying you are twisting the words they said, and as I say again it has very different effects on how you deliver the message.

For example, if I praise my junior colleague for having done a great done, I don’t say it to imply everybody else has done a crap job, it could well be others have done a good job as well, it’s just this one colleague has done a better job. That’s not like I’m pointing at others “you have done a crap job”.

Alonso and Vettel said Rosberg didn’t do it on purpose, that’s different to “Alonso and Vettel agree that Hamilton is wrong is accusing Nico of purposely crashing” as you said, because they didn’t say that. They said it from Rosberg’s POV, not HAM’s.

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OK, explain it to me how Alonso and Vettel’s view that Nico didn’t do it on purpose leaves room for them to also agree with Hamilton’s statements.

Just want a 1+1=2 kind of a summary if you don’t mind so I can communicate correctly going forward.

Cheers.

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Yes Sebee, you can agree and disagree to things but that’s not the same as finger pointing at someone, which is literally saying directly “you are wrong” and that has very different results that can literally pi** off the person you point your finger at, and the way you phrased it is no different to journalists creating a stir out of nothing.

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Well, in this case by agreeing with one you pretty much disagree automatically with the other.

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This is getting batty. You have to be daft to think that Nico could wield his front wing like a sword. I don’t think Hamilton is daft.

What IS true and has been ADMITTED by Nico, is that he held a stubborn line, and he held it intentionally to “make a point.” From Hamilton’s viewpoint, this made contact inevitable and, therefore, intentional. It’s that simple. So either Alonso and Vettel think that Hamilton is stupid, or they themselves are failing to make one logical deduction. You choose.

All that we can possibly argue about now is whether Hamilton is correct that contact was inevitable when Nico held his stubborn line. With Nico so far back, it seems reasonable to me that Lewis should take the racing line, and therefore he is correct, but I’m uninitiated in these issues.

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@TheDude

You want unbiased overtaking stats? I humbly suggest it’s time to light up the goferet signal 🙂

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It was proven that passing in that spot was possible. It wasn’t some kamikaze move that had no change of happening. It was a right-left, and being on the left, if you could pull in there gave you a bit more distance to brake and inside on the left hander. Passes were done in that spot. So it wasn’t some hopeless move. Forcing the issue, perhaps, but to see it only one way without being open to possibilities is flawed.

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Sebee’s point beneath is fine, but it requires evidence. You have to compare all the times Lewis pushed Nico off the track with all the reverse incidents. Tedious. Anyone passionate enough to gather the data is, almost by definition, biased and the analysis can’t be trusted. So lets stick to the current case instead, in which Nico didn’t have a prayer of completing the overtake. As evidenced by the point of contact, he was so far back to be entirely out of the consideration of any defending driver (in my opinion). If that’s his idea of holding an aggressive line, then it’s pretty lame. It’s like sticking your foot in the door after the job interview is over; you’ve lost your shot and now you’re just crying about it.

So here’s an ad hoc standard: aggression is great when cars are reasonably side-by-side. Let’s say there must be at least one wheel overlapping. In other words, it must be “wheel-to-wheel” not “wing-to-wheel”.

42

As was pointed out by many, why is there an expectation (from fans or driver) to have all others yield 100% of the time while they should be unyielding 100% of the time?

43

Someone should ask Lewis regarding the details of the meeting they had where Nico apologised afterwards. I’m sure he’ll share the story easily.

Then again, he might just tweet it instead!

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“Can everyone handle these views?”

Doubtful.

As far as I could tell there just as much Hamilton bashing on this forum as there was Rosberg bashing, and those that are convinced they are right aren’t likely to change their mind in a hurry, regardless of who says what.

Anyway, I’m not surprised at Alonso and Vettel’s conclusion – it was a simple racing incident that was nothing out of the ordinary and that hasn’t happened countless times before between other drivers, but because they were team-mates who were also championship rivals the whole thing was blown way, way out of proportion.

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I’ve always thought this model of a big boys team supplying engines, gearboxes and transaxles is a bit of a dodgy area when it comes to Intellectual Property (IP) – in terms of the design of the rear half of an F1 car. Having said that, as the article says, it hasn’t exactly helped Caterham in that respect!

Perhaps I’m wrong – but just suppose some Ferrari staff decide to become full timers at Haas………..

Ah F1 paranoia over espionage……………..

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The most exciting Ferrari/USA venture was the fantastic 512 Sunoco/Penske Ferrari driven by Mark Donohue. This new marriage however seems Marussia competition, although I wish Haas well because they make machinery in the USA, and that is what the country needs!

Im not sure if Haas has chosen the right partner, Ferrari will lag behind the rest as long as Lou DM runs thye show.

If Alonso stays at Ferrari I am logging out of F1

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PS Ferrari related, just read on the BBC F1 website that Nando wants to stay a Ferrari man. He is categorically not going to McLaren next year, so I suspect Macca will stick with Mini Mag and Jenson for continuity sake. Don’t want to sound smug, but I have said on this fine forum that Mr Alonso would rather eat a bucket load of rusty nails than work for Ron and Co, at least while Ron is Head Honcho at Woking………….
However, Fernando says he wants to stay a Ferrari man – does that mean just Ferrari powered? What chance Nando could be “farmed out” to Haas in a few years time? Now Haas and Ferrari have jumped into bed together, don’t count it out – it sounds unlikely, but a Ferrari powered Haas driven by Nando makes sense from a commercial and marketing point of view………………
Watch this space!

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The chances of that happening are zero.

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Ah but he’s mighty careful with his words is our Fernando – could have been a lawyer in an alternate life – he always says he’s staying for the ‘moment’, that he ‘hopes’ to further his contract, that he is secure in knowing ‘where he will be’. None of which means exactly that I’m sticking with my contract and have been waiting to sign the extension – Nando wants to be in for the long haul – he’ll stay til he’s 45 if he has to – as long as he gets that 3rd title he won’t let up.

And if anybody remembers his direct, straight and honest denials that he was going to Ferrari (when he’d signed the contract a year earlier) will know that Nando can face it out like a born politician on election pledge day…

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nando in a nailed together Ferrari kit car! Sounds unlikely is an understatement, dare you to put £5 on it at the bookies.

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Good, they have a clear intention of fighting Marussia and Sauber.

52

Wicked funny.

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Robert In San Diego

I wish them all the luck. Past transatlantic ventures, drivers and cars, have not always turned out so well. Let’s hope this is different.

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I want to believe. But I don’t.

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Is this the same guy who proclaimed that he didn’t need European assistance not 6 months ago?

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Agree im not convinced this will work, especially the US location. F1 is all brains and even caterham quicky realised they needed to relocate closer to the other teams in order to attract clever engineers (and they were already located elsewhere in UK)

No doubt im gonna get some comments back “US is full of engineers eg Indy car”…to those people i say F1 is totally different, indy cars and thier gas guzzling engines only need to go round ovals downforce is not really a big factor, dont the indy cars also have a lot more std parts. Operating budgets of indy car teams are comparativley small too.

I applaud them for trying but F1 does not need another Caterham

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Worse still would be another HRT.

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