Rosberg on pole in Spa as Hamilton suffers brake issue
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Posted By: Justin Hynes  |  23 Aug 2014   |  2:25 pm GMT  |  246 comments

Nico Rosberg claimed his seventh pole position of the season ahead of team-mate Lewis Hamilton, who said he had suffered with a brake issue in the final segment of the wet session. Red Bull Racing’s Sebastian Vettel took advantage of the tricky conditions to finish third ahead of Ferrari’s Fernando Alonso.

Spa had seen torrential rain fall 45 minutes before the start of the session but by the time the green light went on at the end of the pit lane to signal the start of Q1 it had largely abated. Conditions on track were extreme however, with low grip and almost no visibility in the spray.

The early pace was set by Hamilton, the Mercedes driver logging a time of 2:09.492, to head Red Bull Racing’s Daniel Ricciardo by just under two tenths of a second. The conditions were clearly treacherous, however, and after a trip through a run-off area following radio traffic from his team, Hamilton told his pit wall not to speak to him during his flying laps. Elsewhere, Esteban Gutierrez was in trouble, the Sauber driver coming to a halt at Stavelot corner.

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A dry line was forming, however, and after a handful of drivers had opted for full wet tyres the field gradually began to switch to intermediates. With three minutes left in the session, Hamilton and Rosberg were in control at the top of the timesheet, but at the bottom the drivers in the drop zone were Andre Lotterer and Marcus Ericsson of Caterham, Marussia’s Max Chilton, Sauber’s Adrian Sutil and the non-running Gutierrez and Force India’s Sergio Perez. Lotterer was also outside the 107% mark, his time of 2:19.870 well over three seconds adrift of the cut-off.

The German made it through with his final lap, however, posting a time of 2:13.469 to finish just under a second in front of team-mate Ericsson, who finished in 22nd position.

Perez too made it out of the drop zone, rising to P12. It was the opposite story for team-mate Nico Hulkenberg. The German dropped to 18th place and out of the session, complaining that his brakes had “felt colder and colder” and that he had “lost all confidence” in his car.

Also out were Pastor Maldonado who finished ahead of Hulkenberg, Max Chilton, Gutierrez, Lotterer and Ericsson. Rosberg topped the segment ahead of Hamilton, Williams’ Felipe Massa and Valtteri Bottas and Jean-Eric Vergne.

The standout performance was from Jules Bianchi in the Marussia, who made it through to Q2 for the second year in succession here, on merit.

Q2 saw the condition change throughout, with a mid-segment shower soaking the track once more. Vergne hadn’t emerged in the early part of the session and when the rain came it looked like he had left his runs too late. When he jumped from P16 to 12th with his first flying lap, the signs looked positive, but as he kept running on intermediate tyres and kept improving, so too this those around him and positions in the lower reaches of the top 10 remained fluid throughout.

In the end, Vergne could not muscle his way into Q3 and finished 12th, just behind Toro Rosso team-mate Daniil Kvyat, who had risen to P8 but then dropped back to P11 as first Jenson Button and then Sebastian Vettel found sufficient improvement to slot into P10 and P7 respectively.

At the top end Hamilton finished Q2 in P1 ahead of Rosberg with Fernando Alonso third ahead of Bottas.

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Q3 saw conditions improve through, with the session ending in bright sunshine. Vettel set the first lap of the segment but it was Rosberg who set the pace, recording a lap of 2:05.698 as Hamilton complained about his brakes not feeling right. Mercedes issued instructions as to how the Briton could get temperature into his brakes but the tactic seemed not to work as the Briton could find no way past his team-mate when the final runs took place.

Rosberg claimed pole with a time of 2:05.591, just over two tenths clear of Hamilton, who afterwards he suffered with a glazed brake.

Red Bull Racing profited in the conditions with Vettel third and Ricciardo fifth. Fernando Alonso split the Renault-powered pair. Williams, expected to be Mercedes main challenger here, finished sixth and ninth, with Bottas quicker than Massa. Kevin Magnussen qualified in P7 ahead of Kimi Raikkonen and Jenson Button was 10th.

Belgian Grand Prix – Qualifying
1 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 2:07.130 2:06.723 2:05.591 22
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 2:07.280 2:06.609 2:05.819 22
3 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing 2:10.105 2:08.868 2:07.717 24
4 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 2:10.197 2:08.450 2:07.786 21
5 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing 2:10.089 2:08.989 2:07.911 21
6 Valtteri Bottas Williams 2:09.250 2:08.451 2:08.049 23
7 Kevin Magnussen McLaren 2:11.081 2:08.901 2:08.679 22
8 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 2:09.885 2:08.646 2:08.780 21
9 Felipe Massa Williams 2:08.403 2:08.833 2:09.178 20
10 Jenson Button McLaren 2:10.529 2:09.272 2:09.776 22
11 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 2:10.445 2:09.377 16
12 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 2:09.811 2:09.805 13
13 Sergio Perez Force India 2:10.666 2:10.084 16
14 Adrian Sutil Sauber 2:11.051 2:10.238 17
15 Romain Grosjean Lotus 2:10.898 2:11.087 16
16 Jules Bianchi Marussia 2:11.051 2:12.470 14
17 Pastor Maldonado Lotus 2:11.261 9
18 Nico Hulkenberg Force India 2:11.267 8
19 Max Chilton Marussia 2:12.566 8
20 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber 2:13.414 4
21 Andre Lotterer Caterham 2:13.469 9
22 Marcus Ericsson Caterham 2:14.438 9



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Just hoping for some rain and a drying track for some pit lane rushes and mixing up in the race.


Once again its a Merc front row. I agree that Nico seems to have the measure of Lewie. Seems with Lewis its always something. Today it was a glazed disc. Lewis has been doing this long enough to know better IMHO. But s*** happens. Great seeing Kimi getting his act together.

And again my complaint is with NBCsn. They should have titled the broadcast The Lewis Hamilton Show. The first 10 minutes was pretty much exclusively Lewis. A montage of Lewis’s breakdowns, fires, mistakes, what he did or didn’t do in Canada, Germany, Hungary and all the “woe is me” shots. Give it a break already there are 21 other drivers on the track but the broadcasters don’t seem to care about the cars on the track. Only what happens to Lewis. To be fair there were a couple of 3 second in car camera shots of Alonso, Vettel and Riccardo. To be clear I’m not a Lewis hater yet. The media working themselves into a drooling frenzy over Lewis will. The bottom line is I think Nico is the better of the two. Nico has been with Merc since day 1, with Schumi. Nico, in my opinion is probably the more complete driver. He along with Schumi helped develope the car, giving him insight that Lewis just doesn’t have and never will. He stepped into a winning drive at McLaren and did the same at Merc. He doesn’t seem to be able to overcome little mistakes that become a major problem at some point during a race weekend. Glazing a brake disc? It can be cleaned up, just don’t do it again tomorrow. There may be a bull, prancing horse or a Wiliams on the podium tomorrow. In fact, it wouldn’t bother me if both Mercs fall out. Close the points gap up a bit, make things a little more interesting. I find it ironic that fans that belittled Schumi and Vettel’s domination would be gushing with praise over Lewis doing the same.


Bloody hell, those Lotus drivers were working hard! That car looked a real handful and both cars spun during the session! Usually when you have a bad season you pray for rain but I can’t see that being the case at Lotus this evening.


He’s the one in control of the pedal and therefore managing the temps.


Hi james I know this is of topic, but ted kravitz on his note book mentioned that max chiltons dad, maybe putting together a deal to buy marrusia, have you heard any rumours?


Yes, there are suggestions he may buy in, not necessarily buy the team.


I’m a bit confused by the Chilton thing. Fair enough getting a leg up from your Dad if he can afford it, and you’re talented enough to take full advantage, that’s what Dad’s do, lucky Max. But to go on paying to keep Max somewhere where he clealry doesn’t belong just makes them both look a bit silly it seems to me.

kenneth chapman

if chilton senior does follow this line through then surely it is a very dodgy business decision, all things considered. patriarchal duty is fine otherwise why bother?


James, no word within the press room that Max needed his daddy to buy the team to keep his drive?


I bet max wishes his dad was a billionaire, he could pick any team, tell the old man to invest, and hey presto max number one driver




Andre Lotterer did a good job beating Ericsson by nearly a second in Qualifying. How did you rate Lotterer’s qualifying performance James , were you impressed with him? I certainly was.


Yes definitely. It has put a few things in perspective

We may see him again, I reckon.


I think it would have given us a better feel for Lotterer’s real f1 ability had Kobayashi been in the other car. Ericsson, too me, is not much of a marker and whether Lotterer has driven a poor F1 car or not (I believe he tested in F1) he has a pile of miles at Spa in all different conditions.

James, did Caterham not bring the first upgrades, in quite awhile, to Spa?

kenneth chapman

@ james… i would certainly second that. he did an amazing job really although the other side of the garage is a poor comparison being a rookie.


Where/When do you think we might see Lotterer again James .? Also what do you mean when you said his performance ‘ put a few things in perspective’?


Ericsson, Kobayashi


James, any word on the fear/risk that Lewis’ breaks will be marginal during the race as a result of the issue during Q3?


No, they can clean the disc up before the race and he will be fine in the dry tomorrow

Should be a great battle for the win


David in Sydney: You can’t expect a driver to go into a race with defective brakes! It would be a safety issue come the first corner. Yes a driver can clean his brakes up with pressure, but it might take a few braking sessions to restore.


So much for parc ferme…


You are allowed to make repairs, there is a list of what has been done which is issued at around 1pm on Sunday


Rosberg’s speed is causing Hamilton to make mistakes, it can’t be easy to handle being with a quicker teammate than himself after all those years of having if his own way.

If I were him I’d forget about qualifying and put all my focus into the long run pace, the car is quick enough for a one-two on any circuit.

IMO Rosberg will win the title, he’s as fast if not faster than Lewis and seems to make less mistakes when on the limit.

alexander supertramp

Nico seems to have a slight edge in quali (which between these two fast drivers is a matter of form), but I feel Lewis has a bigger edge during races.



A team mate now who is a faster qualifier! That must hurt after having a team mate for 3 years at Macca who was a faster race driver!

And before you all start, I suggest you do a little homework! Button started BEHIND Hamilton over 75% of races together yet got more podiums. That tells me that Hamilton was by far the better qualifier but Button was the better racer!


Button had three more podiums.

Now, let’s count up all the podiums Hamilton lost through no fault of his own (may well be missing some too):

Spain 2010

Malaysia 2012

Spain 2012

Valencia 2012

Singapore 2012

Abu Dhabi 2012

vs Button:

Italy 2012 (pretty sure that’s all)

Enough “homework” for you?


Finally someone with some sense talking, however I still have a feeling Hamilton will steal this championship ala 2008, I said it first.


I’m now bored with every time lewis doesn’t get a pole blame is always elsewhere!

alexander supertramp

Not really fair, Lewis is the kind of driver who blames himself easy when performance is missing. He actually tends to do that too often. He took the blame for: Canada, Austria and Silverstone. Perhaps you feel Hockenheim and Hungary were his fault?


David Coulthard pointed out that brakes glaze due to driver inputs.True that Hamilton had car problems for 2 qualifying sessions.Neverthless, it is impressive that Rosbeg is 8-4 up against Hamilton who is considered a very fast driver.

My money is still on Hamilton to win the race.Expect him to beat Rosberg at pitstops.

Also hope Red bull doesn’t screw up Vettel’s strategy tomorrow. Can’t see Ricciardo finishing again ahead of Vettel without overtaking him on the track.


hearing strange rumours now and then


Shocking prediction…………………Macca will stick with their current driver line up for 2015 by offering them both a one year extended contract.

Another shocking prediction……………..Ferrari will stick with their current line up for 2015…… will Red Bull………….as will Merc………… will Lotus…………

Of course, my guesses are all supposition, but I think for continuity the top teams will stick with their lot for 2015.


I think Button will be one of them, looking that way

kenneth chapman

@ james…..have your ever observed the ‘renewable contract lap’. it is a very unique phenomena that when contracts are up for review that the driver in question always seems to be able to conjure up a few tenths that weren’t there before???


I think BUT deserves his seat for next year, even if it’s only to appease Honda. Imagine the fairy tale… does lightning strike twice?


Well done Nico; he beat Lewis fair and square. But , I’m looking forward to the race tomorrow- barring mishaps, I expect Lewis to win.

Now, how about wet weather, changeable conditions maestro being out qualified 1.1 seconds by a rookie?


Lewis Hamilton said he wants to inflict maximum ‘pain’ on team-mate Nico Rosberg …. maybe this was his way of doing it 🙂


Pole would be nice, and it’s definitely been too long for Lewis to snag one, but if Hamilton wins tomorrow, how much will Rosberg’s pole today matter? Puts him firmly in line for the Pole Trophy though!

kenneth chapman

@ clyde….to some people the pain is the ‘pleasure’.


Perhaps he’s trying to cause the pain of being a celebrity that’ll come ROS’ way with winning his first WDC over HAM?

HAM: “If you think it’s easy being cool a famous and a WDC ROS, you just try it…”

ROS: “I am German. And my Dad was a WDC. I can handle it…bro”

tyres, tyres, tyres

Nikki Lauda said after qualifying Hamilton didnt listen to his engineers how to warm up his brakes in these conditions properly and thats why he didnt get the best out of his car today. Not a biggie, happens to all of them at some point but 100 % driver error James, no reliabity issue no matter how much you try to paint a different picture to cover up his shortcomings once again after you did the same after the last race. Maybe it is sponsor related again or because he is british but you make an awful lot of questionable excuses lately for a certain Mercedes driver. Have you been taken over by Sky by any chance ?


Absolutely agree with you. It is purely Hamilton’s fault and it is Rosberg on top, being faster and more consistent. We might all be surprised by the end of the year that Rosberg is in fact a better driver. And if he continues like this, he is the one who deserves a title.

All I wanted to see this year is a title won because of a driver and not reliability problems. If from now on there are not going to be any reliability problems for Hamilton and Rosberg will still win it, he is a better driver.


If there are no reliability problems between now and season’s end and Rosberg wins by fewer than 20-odd points then it wont prove he’s the better driver, he’ll have just won it because of Hamilton’s poor reliability up until now. This was a strong performance from Rosberg but it doesn’t magically wipe out what’s already happened.


Couldn’t agree more! I think James has his Hamilton fan club membership card sitting beside his laptop when he writes some of this stuff.

But it’s the same with a lot of British journalists – I’m getting sick to death of it. Every qualifying and every race where Rosberg beats Hamilton all we hear is how Hamilton ‘lost pole’ or ‘lost the race’. It’s never ‘Nico beat Lewis’, oh no!

The headlines on a lot of British F1 sites are the same. When Rosberg get’s pole it’s ‘Rosberg just edges Hamilton to pole’ or ‘Hamilton issue costs him pole’ but when the entitled little princess Hamilton takes pole it’s ‘Hamilton takes dominant pole’ or ‘Hamilton unstoppable’ or other such nonsense!


with all due respect james is not a natural fan of hamilton. he said so in the past however i suspect he’s trying to be supportive for professional reasons and is leaving some holes.

james is certainly not as you describe him. he prefers alonso and we all know alonso is spanish. it’s better to draw a conclusion based on more than a single piece of evidence.

kenneth chapman

@ nick, you hit the nail on the head. how true that all is.


If you look in the top right hand corner of your screen, there should be a red box with an X in it. Now, if you can manoeuvre the mouse and hover the pointer over the X – managed that, good – now right click the mouse.

Voila, all your troubles and woes gone 😉




Haha, Tyres is definitly right !!



Let’s face it, Lewis was destroying Nico, then Monaco happened, which totally knocked Lewis out of sync.

If Lewis has no issues tomorrow (unlikely) I can see him easily beating Nico.


” Lewis was destroying Nico” Hmmmmmmmmm

If I remember correctly Nico gave Hamilton the race of his life at Bahrain and then again at Barcelona, hardly “destroying” .


You should also remember Rosberg’s car was faster with better set up, and the faster tyres. It is testament to Lewis’s skill keeping Rosberg behind.


Not much talk about Vettel here – he seems to be finding his groove even though his bad luck continued causing him to miss much needed practice. I would say superlative is not too strong a word for todays effort.

Though it means little if RIC beats him (again) tomorrow, If VET follows through and starts accumulating podiums and beating RIC, it will be interesting to see how RIC handles it. I think RIC is going to find beating VET a lot more difficult than the previous races.


2 wins in his first year at RedBull. RIC has done his job this year even if he finishes second to VET for the rest of the season.


Only 2? You’re behind the times my friend 😀


You’re right – that was an excellent effort by Vettel.



Agreed Ricciardo’s off road adventures helped, but I’m just trying to be fair here – If I can praise Ricciardo every time he does well then the least I can do is acknowledge when Vettel does the same.

kenneth chapman

@ random…..yes, vettel put in a good lap but he beat ricci by default owing to daiel’s off at blanchimont. no doubt vettel is the improve. not before time though, is it?

alexander supertramp

Too bad for Lewis, but it’s a very long race tomorrow and Spa is an honest track, Lewis or Nico, the fastest tomorrow will come out on top.


Vettel delivered…… Lol.

Has the beast awaken, if all go’s well and he finishes ahead of DR what will it mean?

Kimi getting closer to Alonso? – chances of him having issues come race day.

Hamilton’s one win at this track was from p2 ……. An omen?


VET will come on like gangbusters as his confidence is increasing even through the bad luck so we will see what Dan is made of. I think VET will consistently out race him the remaining races but I’ve been wrong before:)

Kimi still one second down on Alonso – I think most Kimi supporters have faced the facts.

kenneth chapman

@ jon…who will finish up with the most points at the end? vettel really does have to put in some incredible races if he is beat daniel.he needs to outpoint ricci by approx 5 points every race to finish up 2 points ahead…….i think. don’t forget that in the analysis of the YTD daniel has had his points deleted in race one, a DNF in race two and a ten place grid penalty in race three which just about negates vettel’s issues over the same period.

ricci has nothing to prove but vettel certainly does. excuse my rampant bias hahaha


All the more impressive that RBR had trimmed the car with low dowforce for the race, like last year. Eau Rouge will have been a thriller in the wet today for VET and RIC


Well It’s actually a low downforce track! Obviously a compromise has to be met, but straightline speed has proven more important than grip in the twisty section. Hamilton had a higher downforce set up last year and got wiped out by Vettel in the race as his car was not fast enough along the straighter sections

kenneth chapman

i would’ve loved to be a viewer at eau rouge watching both red bulls transit!!!! salutations for just getting through are in order.

a pity that ricciardo had his moment at blanchimont otherwise he would’ve clinched third and beaten vettel. it was wet and merde happens. nevertheles he is is still, along with vettel and alonso, in a position to attack and given the race pace that DR has it should be a great fight for the bottom step.


James was Vettel carrying more down force than Ricciardo?

I saw some footage of the 2 Redbull cars and it looked like Vettels had more down force.

Can you confirm?


Curiously, last year Fernando ran his car with skinny wings and yet despite being on light downforce was delighted with the handling of his car as he battled through the field to finish 2nd.It was the same in 2012 when Jenson also ran a skinny wing set up and was thrilled with the balance of his car to the extent he dominated qualifying and the race.

Strange – you would taking off downforce would be detrimental to a car’s balance and high speed handling, and yet as Jenson and Fernando have demonstrated, apparently not. How does that work out?

Ah, aerodynamics, the invisible black art of motor sport.


Thanks for pointing that out James, I was just about to comment on the dry weather, top speed setting RB employed.. I wouldn’t write RB off yet in this race, but can they make up the gap? Even NL indicated SV shouldn’t be written off yet.

Also DR’s long run race pace was competitive, splitting the Mercedes. Could be quite interesting and entertaining!


Credit where credit is due, a qualifying master class from Rosberg.

Perhaps it was actually Hamilton’s brakes suffering from the extra weight of his oversized watch which made the difference today (check the weigh in footage). Probably worth about three tenths a lap!

And why was the world feed giving us pictures of people in the garage in the closing seconds of a qualy session?


Because the director is a [choose your own expletive].

We want to see cars on track – if I wanted to see celebrities I’d read a magazine.


Agree, you get the impression the directors/producers are chasing F1’s image instead of chasing the cars via the cameras.

Another irritant is just before the start when the director pans to a shot of Christian Horner or Ron Dennis, or whatever TP is around. Who wants to say a sweating TP tensed up when the race is about to start? What does it prove? That TP’s get nervous before a start? Who doesn’t?


Needless to say title seems very convenient..Lewis couldnt fight back when it was needed..that sounds familiar!


I do agree with you. I went into the season supporting Hamilton vs Rosberg (seeing how bad Ferrari was and having no chance to see my favorite team challenging for the win)….but Rosberg gain my respect and I am starting to believe that Hamilton might be a bit over-rated. Talented, but lacking something to be on par with greatest drivers.


coulthard was surprised that there was so much steam coming off the trees. please someone tell him the trees are living things generating heat while carrying out transpiration.


They are also exposed to the sun’s rays just like everything else, but I expect it was just more evident than usual. Water was also evaporating from the track in good measure.


Maybe Hamilton should stick one or two of those trees next to his brakes, help warm them up a bit? 🙂


I still think DC has flackbacks to 1998 when he a) wiped out half the field at the 1st start and b) in the re-started race had a bit of “aggro” with Michael! In those instances, its understandable he sometimes gets things a bit wayward at Spa.

Got to hand it to Mr Tight Trousers, to completely write off half the F1 field in a matter of 10 odd seconds is quite an achievement………………


Random, don’t give Maldonado any ideas…………….

Mind you, a couple of years back, the Romain Empire in his wild and wooly era was having a crack at DC’s World Title……………..


Kind of makes Maldonado look like an amateur 🙂


He is an ex F1 driver….


is it a good idea he sticks to talking about f1?

kenneth chapman

hahaha a glazed brake!!!!….the dog ate my homework.


Oh Kenneth, how can someone who does so much good with all his Vettel-bashing also do so much wrong?


Interestingly, I don’t think Lewis has ever been entirely comfortable – in terms of the “feel” – with the brakes on his Mercedes steed ever since he joined the team in early 2013. I think his preferred brakes are only available to McLaren – contractual issues I think.

Perhaps James or Matt Meadows can investigate the brake set up – both literally and manufacturers set up – at Mercedes, because while it hasn’t hugely slowed Lewis down, a slight lack of feel for his car’s braking feel has certainly nullified a lot of Lewis advantage compared to his Macca career. A lot of Lewis lap time advantage at McLaren, especially in qualifying was down to his ability to brake late, yes, but crucially, not to brake AS MUCH as his opponents.

Like I mentioned, perhaps James and Matt Meadows can investigate this issue, because I have a feeling Lewis is still a bit niggly over his brakes feel. I may be wrong, but it could explain why he has been outqualified in a straight fight when you would have expected Lewis to wipe the floor with Rosberg Junior on a Saturday afternoon.

It’s all about the feel…………….with the left foot of course!


How many years are we going to be talking that Lewis is never entirely comfortable with his breaks? Do you think Alonso is very comfortable with his Ferrari? You make things work for yourself and find a way around problems to be the best out there. If I think about my work environment, it is the same – you never feel comfortable and it is rarely the case that things work only to my strengths, but I have to find a way to be the best out there considering everything I have at my disposal. Period.

Today Rosberg was better and today Rosberg made his breaks work for him, Lewis did not.


Yes I think you are right with this. This years car while much improved (in terms of brake feel) over last year probably still isn’t exactly what Lewis wants, and loses a bit of time because of it. Of course it also depends whether Rosberg would derive any improvement from using the same set up. All that said I think Rosberg has been underrated for a long time. It should also be remembered that car characteristics suit particular drivers, and that is no better demonstrated by Vettel’s turn of fortune against Ricciardo this year. The reason why Schumacher was so dominant was because he had Ferrari build him precisely the car he wanted with all the most suited components including tyres. Given all that driver comparisons are fraught with difficulty. Anyway it’s going to be an interesting race.


Akebono calipers are the ones he had at McLaren, which he can’t have at Mercedes b/c it’s exclusive to McLaren, as you said.


The team said it was a cold brake. My experience with glazed pads is from overheating, not underheating. Was it hot or was it cold? Cant be both…. Come to think of it, it wouldn’t matter. Lewis can drive around problems 😉


Two thumbs up! Perhaps his canine buddies Roscoe and Coco took a leak on his wheel….


Nico is seriously quick in all conditions. He owned Lewis again today.


Yes seriously quick Nico that could only qualify 10-10 against a 43 year old Schumacher in 2012 and also the same Nico that was smashed by Webber in 2006 at Williams, maybe its because Hamilton isn’t as good as the brits try to make out he is, after all Hamilton was beaten by a ‘slow’ Jenson Button.


Started to think……why there is a common opinion that Hamilton is better than Rosberg? I really do not see it this year…:-)


Ham 2 dnfs ros 1 dnf_ ham 2 major qually dnfs, ros 0 qually issues, and ham is only 11 points behind, reverse the problums and lewis would be well clear with one hand on the wdc, all in all with the issues ham has had to rosberg, he’s doing ok, when he’s had no probs, he’s consistently been the quicker driver, its time all the anti ham fans to put things into perspective, if the issues had been reversed all we would here is , lucky hamilton, but all we get is prost like, steady like rosberg, who they all forget has made so many mistakes this year, and can you imagine the uproar if it had been lewis in Monaco bringing out the yellow flag to stop rosberg getting pole, this site would still be banging on about the cheat hamilton..


When are people going to stop thinking the quickest drivers are necessarily the best? Hamilton is faster than Alonso but has NEVER outpointed him and in better cars most of those years I may add.

Yes, he has such bad luck (as Vettel) but he has made qualy blunders in at least 2 races. He was close to disaster in Hungary trying to get to the front too quickly – Button said it right – he overreacts and does silly things when under pressure.

Quite frankly, as much of a whiner as Vettel is, I think he has handled his misfortune better and will prove the naysayers wrong from here on out.

HAM is still is the better driver and in good shape to win the WDC, but I’m beginning to wonder if he has the emotional stability to handle it.


if ifs and buts were candy and nuts ….. If only Hamilton fans could take their hands of their WDCs and deal with reality – we wouldn’t have to listen to their delusional dreams of a fairer, pro-Hamilton result every week.


damn right, at end of quali I reflected that on equal fortunes Lewis could be maybe 40 points clear by now at least. . he’s done the hard work but missed the rewards. But as the saying goes you make your own luck and somehow he’s got to get on top of the fortune fairy who’s been a bit fickle; lets hope she comes back for the rest of the year, 1F she does the WDC should go his way, and thats a F1 1F if ever there was one.

Exactly what is a glazed disk anyway?

Good luck Lewis!


You fail to mention Rosberg’s lost points with car issues that didn’t result in a DNF, in China he had debris stuck in his front wing, couldn’t challenge for win, in Canada he had the same problem Hamilton had but managed it better but still lost the win, in Hungary his brake by wire failed and had to push the brake bias all the way to the front, that coupled with the safety car cost him the win, then of course the biggest wammy at Silverstone where Hamilton took that win when Rosberg was leading, if it wasn’t for all the issues Rosberg would be well in the lead!


This is a very good point and one I asked HAM about this evening. He feels positive, given the problems and the gap after the problems he has had


Because Lewis has beat Rosberg on track nearly every time.

Rosberg is ahead, because Lewis has had so many issues.

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