Nico Rosberg
2016 Formula 1 World Champion
Rosberg takes second Monaco win ahead of Hamilton and Riccardo
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Posted By: Justin Hynes  |  25 May 2014   |  2:59 pm GMT  |  667 comments

Nico Rosberg took his second consecutive Monaco Grand Prix victory with a controlled drive from pole, holding off team-mate Lewis Hamilton, who struggled with vision problems in the latter stages of the race. Red Bull Racing’s Daniel Ricciardo was third.

Rosberg held his lead at the start, with Hamilton hard in pursuit. Behind them the order was changing. Third-on the-grid Daniel Ricciardo made a poor getaway and was passed by team-mate Sebastian Vettel. Ricciardo then tried to fend off the hard-charging Fernando Alonso and that allowed Kimi Raikkonen, who had started sixth, to slip past both around the outside.

As the front-runners settled into the lap behind them Sergio Perez, who had started 10th, was clipped by McLaren’s Jenson Button and pitched into the barriers on the run down to the hairpin.

That triggered a brief safety car intervention and it left the order changed  again. This time it was Vettel on the move – though backwards. The champion reported a loss of power and slid rapidly back to 10th by the end of lap four. He pitted to permit his crew a diagnosis but within moments of them releasing him back into the fray, in last position, he reported that his RB10 was stuck in first gear. The myriad issues quickly saw him retire from the race.

The next man to exit the race was Toro Rosso’s Daniil Kvyat. The Russian rookie had impressed all weekend on his first time out at Monaco but after a decent race start in which he settled into eighth position he began to drop back on lap 11, losing places to Button and Hulkenberg. Kvyat then steered his car back to the pit lane and retired.

At the front the tight battle between Rosberg and Hamilton continued. By lap 19 the German was just 1.7 seconds ahead of his team-mate and both were pushing hard to find any advantage. Behind them Raikkonen was now 9.7s behind Rosberg, with Ricciardo 2.4s behind the Finn. Alonso continued in fifth, nine seconds to the good over Kevin Magnussen, with Toro Rosso’s Jean-Eric Vergne seventh.

The Safety Car appeared again on lap 25. Adrian Sutil lost control of his Sauber on the exit of the tunnel and smashed into the barriers scattering debris all across the run down to the Nouvelle  Chicane.

That was the cue for a flurry of stops as all the front runners visited the pits. The Mercedes came in one behind the other, with Hamilton momentarily delayed. Raikkonen, meanwhile, slotted back into third but was soon back in the pits, for another set of softs, the Finn being clipped by a lapped Marussia on his out lap. That promoted Ricciardo to third.

The order, when the safety car left the track on lap 30, was Rosberg, Hamilton, Ricciardo and Alonso, with Williams’ Felipe Massa fifth. The Brazilian had failed to pit during the safety car period, however, and was still circulating on his starting supersoft tyres.

Behind them, Vergne was handed a drive-through penalty for an unsafe release during the safety car period, the Frenchman having been sent dangerously into the path of Magnussen in the pit lane.

Vergne’s return to the pits on lap 37 shuffled the order in the lower half of the top 10. Hulkenberg was now sixth, ahead of Magnussen, Button, Valtteri Bottas and Esteban Gutierrez.

Massa finally pitted on lap 45, dropping back to 11th. The order now was Rosberg, just 0.8s ahead of Hamilton, with Ricciardo third, 12s back. Alonso was fourth ahead of Hulkenberg, Magnussen and Button. Bottas was eighth, Gutierrez ninth and Raikkonen was back into the top 10.

Vergne’s race, meanwhile, went from bad to worse. Fighting with Jules Bianchi for P13 on lap 52, blue smoke suddenly appeared at the back of the Toro Rosso. By the time Vergne reached the swimming pool section it had turned into a plume and he arrowed into pit lane to bring to an end a frustrating afternoon for his Italian team.

A handful of laps later a second engine failure changed the order again. Bottas, in eighth, was defending hard as behind him Gutierrez, Raikkonen and Massa (on fresher tyres) pushed to get past. In the end none of the trio had to tussle too hard, as on lap 57 Bottas’ FW36 expired in a pall of smoke at the hairpin.

Gutierrez was the next man to exit the race. The Mexican clipped the barrier at Rascasse, sustained a puncture and spun close to the pit lane entrance.

That put Marussia’s Jules Bianchi in a points-scoring position. The Frenchman was due to take a five-second penalty at the end of the race for an earlier infringement but with a six-second advantage over Grosjean on track, it looked like the Frenchman was on the way to his first F1 points.

Hamilton, meanwhile, was in trouble, complaining that he had dirt in his left eye that was impairing his vision. The gap between him and Rosberg drifted to five seconds, with Riccardo now eight seconds behind Hamilton.

The Australian made a determined bid to reel in Hamilton and closed the gap on the Mercedes driver to three seconds by lap 72. Hamilton was soon embroiled in traffic and on lap 73 Ricciardo was running on the Briton’s gearbox.

In the traffic Button passed Magnussen across the start-finish line. Ricciardo and Hamilton wove their through the backmarkers and as they did so Raikkonen attempted to pass Magnussen.

Both got stuck at the hairpin and that allowed Bianchi to move up to eighth, meaning that regardless of his penalty he would retain a points position.

It was now all about the Ricciardo/Hamilton duel. Ricciardo threw everything at the challenge but the Red Bull driver could find no way past as Hamilton used his greater power in tunnel to prevent any move from Riccardo into the chicane.

Ahead, Rosberg crossed the line to take his second Monaco win and to seize back the championship lead. The German now has 122 points to his team-mate’s 118.

Hamilton held off Ricciardo to take second. Alonso was fourth behind the Australian, with Hulkenberg fifth. Button was sixth for McLaren, ahead of Massa. Grosjean was eighth with Bianchi ninth, but the Marussia driver was crucially nine seconds ahead of tenth-placed Magnussen, meaning that Marussia scored their first championship points and took a crucial advantage over Caterham, for whom Ericsson was 11th, in the Constructors’ Championship.

 

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1

Brilliant race! Really great!

2

But in previous years there were more places drivers used to overtake at. Like in the tunnel or the tunnel exit, the start/finish "straight", going uphill towards the casino, the end of the short casino straight. Today I didn't see any overtaking except in Lowe's 2km/h corner. So I can't qualify the race as "brilliant". The SC spiced it up a bit. And the Merc duo kept it alive to some extent.

3

i disagree that the safety car spiced it up.

In fact, I would say the safety car spoiled what was shaping up to be a very interesting part of the race.

Mercedes tyres were starting to go off -- they were looking like thay would have to pit -- and they didnt have the gap on the others.

ie they would have been coming out in traffic.

This could have given Ricciardo and Kimi - who were easier on thier tyres a real chance of beating on or both Mercs!!

4

You are going to get a zillion replies to this one Marc.

5

Beats last year's hands down, doesn't it?

Driver of the day goes to Bianchi. These 2 points for Marussia are gold.

Great stuff from Ricciardo, Rosberg and Hamilton too.

6

I stand to be corrected, but those 2 points could be worth UK £20 million - at the very least! That's an impressive return for 1.75 hours of work!

Bianchi for Ferrari 2016?

7

Why would anyone want to drive for Ferrari? Oh, I was forgetting the money and 'prestige'...

8

It really was! Hulkenbergs overtake was one of several highlights.

9

The Hulk's overtake on MiniMag was arguably one of the best of the year so far!

Apparently he is supposedly too tall, too big and too heavy for F1..........as Bart Simpson would say, yeah whatever.

10

Yeah, Gaz, the Hulk is great, I've followed his progress since the A1GP days and he is a natural talent. It's a real shame that to be successful in F1 you have to be an anemic midget! It is quite refreshing to see real grown up MEN get out of the Indy cars at the end of their races! The currant minimum weight rule for F1 needs reconsidering urgently, in my opinion!

PK.

11

I think pound for pound Hulk is the fastest driver in F1 over a race distance on average, will he ever get the chance in a championship winning car? Its 50/50 but without a doubt if he was in that Merc instead of Rosberg then he'd be making Hamilton's current implosion seem like child's play.

12

To be fair to minimag he showed a bit more maturity by not just flying into Hulk - which was nice.

But yeah - let's assume Hulks massive body weight (given he's about 10 stone instead of 7...sheesh) is costing him a tenth or even two - just how fast would he be if they raised the minimum weight?

I think as soon as Kimi, Button or Alonso retire if anyone other than Hulk gets their seat it's just a tragedy. I don't think anyone is predestined to win a WDC but if Hulk doesn't at least get a decent shot then it's a tragic waste.

13
Darrell Steele

Bit funny Roseberg congratulates his team mate now there is bad air between them never had done before.

14

That's funny I remember Nico always congratulating Hamilton after Hamiltin win a race.

15

Just saw the post-race comments form Hamilton, and wow, just... WOW! This guy is a disgrace to British motor-sport. He doesn't deserve to be world champion, let alone double world champion. I mean, questioning the precise team strategy that gave him the advantage in the previous 4 races, allowing him to win against a much faster Rosberg. If it had been Vettel, the booing would be deafening, and the online slander ever enduring. This year the championship is Mercedes clearly, but I really hope Hamilton doesn't get it. I'm a fierce Nico supporter from now on.

16

Nico Rosberg has never had a car with the performance he has now and the chance to win a WDC

This is Hamiltons chance to win a second and it's not suprising the first feud started in a fight for the WDC

Hamilton is the highest paid because in terms of raw pace he is the fastest on the grid,period.

Look at the poles and points and races he has won, in non championship cars the facts speak for themselves.

17

Actually Rosberg turned his engine up in Bahrain which is obviously why Hamilton did it in Spain as he couldn't trust Rosberg after Bahrain.

I agree Hamilton has been petulant but Rosberg has hardly been any better, fist pumping his pole when he should have been apologising to the drivers whose laps he wrecked.

18

If both of you read my comment carefully, you will say that I did not say whether or not Lewis turning his engine up was good or bad. I stated it as fact, which is the truth. It is also true that, if Lewis hadn't done that in pain, he would have not won the race. Fact, pure and simple. It is also true that Nico never really got into feuds with his team mates, while Lewis has constantly done so, even when he had no real chance to win the WDC. Fact, pure and simple.

You Lewis fans just don't like to admit that Lewis isn't a golden boy racer. He isn't faster than other current drivers (including Nico) and he has a real bad character. And in spite of all that, he is still the highest paid driver in the paddock, even more than a 4 time WDC. Fact... pure and simple!

19

@Beo Wulf, we will just ignore the fact that Nico turned his engine in Bahrain shall we.?

Its all right for him but not Lewis.?

20

You are saying that Rosberg was faster than Hamilton in the last 4 races and Hamilton won on strategy.

Complete nonsense.

21

In 2 of them yes, absolutely. If you add the fact that Hamilton turned engine up against instructions from his team, then in Spain Nico was much faster than Hamilton. In these races, if Nico was allowed to have the undercut, Lewis would have been toast. But this is not the first time Lewis had problem with team mates (http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/may/25/lewis-hamilton-nico-rosberg-feud), this is just another example of Lewis bad character.

22

If Hamilton is looking for ways to lose his entire fanbase for acting like a child, then his actions in the last eight weeks are doing a fantastic job of that.

Once upon a time I'd have called myself a fan of Hamilton, but I would no longer dare admit as much.

23

Well I for one am glad there is some fierce inter-team rivalry. You can't have it both ways. I would be disappointed if he took this loss with indifference. Rosberg kept on sulking for the last four podiums and seems to never get anyway the same level of stick (and Hamilton never compromised his shot at pole).

24

Lewis has been carrying on like a young child. I enjoy watching him drive and will probably be able to continue doing that, but after this past week, I would be happy not to hear from him again.

26
Christmas Dinner

Poor form from Lewis today and yesterday.

Funny, he pretty much compared Nico to a spolit little brat then behaves exactly like one.

Nico's behaviour last couple of races especialy when it got a bit spicey in Bahrain should have showed him how to present himself.

YES he's disappointed but dragging your bottom lip on the ground ain't the thing to do!

I am massive Lewis fan but the way he got his panties in a bunch throughout the last two days is handing over the impetuous mentally

WELL DONE MARUSSIA

27
Jaques Levesque

He is certainly his own worse enemy, even his hardcore fans will struggle to defend his behaviour.

As many on here know, i'm not part of the anti brigade and you are not going to see me taking a dig at every opportunity but jeeez Lewis, your behaviour was nothing short of atrocious. People were commenting about your radio manner...i defended it on the basis that others do the same...we've heard them....then the radio calls about "knew you wouldn't bring me in anyway" when he didn't pit early with a safety car due. The paranoia displayed was actually quite concerning.

I'm starting to think he reads the sh1t people post as he really is demonstrating that he has somewhat of a complex.

Nico dealt with the fallout really well and has come out looking alright in all of this, Lewis on the other hand has not. If i met someone like this at my work then i'd think he had a coke habit tbh and would be linking him in to services to help.

If he is reading these then here's some simple advice [mod] and do your talking on the road....you are your own worse enemy.

I hate the constant barrage of negativity towards him on here as i have always said there is more behind it than how he behaves, thats always been my issue....i've argued the toss about balance as other drivers do stuff and it gets laughed at whilst Lewis gets nailed......and then he has a weekend like this where nobody can defend him with any confidence. I've never been a fanboy (unless we hit bikes and Noriyuki Haga and then i am A number 1 fan for that lad when he raced) but let me say this, if anyone is coming out and defending his behaviour this weekend then that is exactly what you are.

Support all you like but wrong is wrong and he was...on so many levels...that cannot be defended

28

Funny how he always has a mental meltdown at Monaco...ala 2011 (I'm a fan of his btw)

29

Funny how 'alaways' means 'once in 8 years' lol

Some people.

30

How can you possibly call it meltdown if his team mate had to cheat to win? Would you be happy and smiling??.

Ham won all his races by being fair to NICO While Nico won because he is a fraud and a liar.

Look at 2012 and see how mature HAM was. Even when his team screwed his chances.

31

My thoughts exactly! There's always something about Lewis and Monaco weekend; am also thinking of 2007 ("I'm the number two driver") and perhaps also 2009 (when he talked up his chances pre-event before hitting the wall at Mirabeau in quali). I think it's such a big weekend, seen still as the closest F1 has to a blue-riband event within the calendar, that if anything he gets himself too worked up. I wonder if in future the team will try and encourage him to simply treat it like another weekend. If he can win there multiple times then great but if not he's still won there once already so it's not like he's trying to end a hoodoo a la Nigel Mansell at the Principality.

32

The race was decided yesterday obviously.

Hope Nico is very proud of himself.

33

+1

Nico is spending too much time with Alain Prost...

34

He drove a great race. He should be proud.

35
Luis Pastilla

The truth is, this weekend Hamilton was caught napping, literally and metaphorically.

Not just oversleeping for free practice [never heard of before}

He simply did not prepare himself. He was arrogant, thinking that he had Nico licked, and he let his guard down.

That was the mistake that let a lesser driver win the day.

36

I'm a huge Lewis fan and as much as i hate to admit it -i agree with this. Lewis is so fast naturally that he thinks that it is all he has to do but in f1 there are so many other ways to prepare yourself. politics, mental prep as jackie stewart always says is so important. i think his comments on "hunger" were so ill-judged and stunk of arrogance. however, how nico won was so unsporting and dishonest that i forgive lewis a bit for his post race behaviour. but now he needs to take it on the chin and on to next race.

37

How can you say that? We never even got a chance to see if Lewis could have got a Pole or not? I would have bet almost anything that he would have had one up on Rosberg if given the chance.

38

Craig D, my theory is that due to Mercedes policy that all drivers can look at each others data Lewis is more inclined to keep all his aces up his sleeve - he didn't want to show his hand on the first run. Also, keep in mind that a track like Monaco only gets more rubbered with time so the later a run the faster is it - traditionally all drivers get their best time in the last run. If you look at the data Lewis was actually loosing out in sectors 1 & 3 and was always dominant in sector 2 so considering that on that last flying lap he was up in sector 1,he would easily have been up on sector 2 based on previous performance - so even if he was down on sector 3 thats 2/3 so a good chance of getting on Pole. Sadly - we'll never know and thats my whole point - we never got a chance to see so I take objection to your comments that seem to suggest that Lewis did not prepare himself or let his guard down.

39

Well we saw their first runs. Why didn't he get the job done then. There's no guarantee he would have got pole with that second run anyway, especially as Lewis was consistently losing out in the 3rd sector.

40

Well this is true, a little. We dont really know what would of happened if Nico didnt stuff up in qualifying. could of been much different

41

Good result for lewis, if you dont ger the jump at the start, unless nico makes a mistake 2nd is all you can do, considering he's already had one dnf, lewis is sitting pretty, out of the 6 races rosberg has twice made mistakes in final qually run, so rosberg is feeling the pressure, with 13 races to go, and the dnfs being equal, lewis should be wdc, if hes not, then he's not the top rank I thought he was, bring on canada

42

Whatever you think of yesterday, there's no way to undo it now. Nico has the win and the points lead in his pocket and it's up to Lewis to take it back next time out. This was Lewis' most dominant period over Nico last year (Canada, Britain, Germany, Hungary), if he can repeat that he'll take a massive step towards the title.

43

Exactly.

I've watched Nico's off several times, and whilst it was certainly convenient, I think the "Don't ascribe to conspiracy anything that can be explained by cock-up" rule applies.

Crediting Nico with the guile to go off on purpose doesn't seem to be the act of someone engaged in mind games either.

If Nico had fluffed the start and Lewis led into the first corner it would have been his day - and 3 races in a row that Nico really should have won going to Lewis would have us thing the championship is over. As things stand we the Mercedes drivers should have a scrap which goes to end of the season.

The bad news for the others is the lead: Raikkonen closed a margin of more than two race wins to win his championship, and James Hunt made up 4 wins to be a point ahead when the season ended (and Damon Hill closed up more than 3 wins but didn't still lost to Schumacher in 94). Otherwise you can't find a driver who has closed a gap of more than 2 wins to take a championship and that's the gap between the two Mercedes and the rest.

I don't know if Mercedes have decided that one driver doing too well will make the season a huge yawn-fest and so are making as much drama as possible by encouraging these two to race.

By the way, comparing the seasons ...

Last year, Lewis had the better of Australia, Malaysia, China, Bahrain, then Nico had Spain and Monaco. This year you can argue about Australia, but Lewis had the better result in Spain and the others have matched up.

Last year then went

Canada: Lewis, Britain: Nico (won) Germany: Lewis, Hungary: Lewis (won), Belgium: Lewis

You'd have to make Lewis favourite for the next 5 races (!). In Canada he has 3 wins and 3 poles and was 3rd last year with Nico was 54 seconds behind - the biggest gap between them all season. If that history gets overturned the momentum swings back towards Nico.

44

Last year the Merc team messed up Nico's strategy by putting him on scrubbed tyres on his 2nd stint and lost 25secs due to them laps, in the first stint on same tyres Nico was barely a few seconds behind Hamilton.

But I agree alot of 'Hamilton tracks' coming up win them or lose his mind.

45

@ Andrew M I have a feeling Hamilton will start another winning streak come Canada. Like u said these up coming races are on his favorite tracks.

46

Well said and I have a funny feeling that is the likely result of today...

47

He did all the hard and dirty work yesterday. 🙂

48
H.Guderian (ALO fan)

Gee!!

I can barely believe we have statements like yours. What happened yesterday is irrelevant.

Ham will win 9 out of 10 races, so....

AND, nobody really knows if it was or not on purpose.

49

I was pretty surprised to hear everyone complaining about Nicos off in Q3. On the US broadcast Steve Matchett was just saying that he thought Nico had held back too far going into his flying lap and cooled the tires down so to be looking for grip and lockup issues. Then bam lock up and and off the track Nico went.

I am sure Lewis was mad after Spain and him getting 4second pit stops while Nico was getting 2. What might be happening is a case of Lewis alienating his teammates and I don't mean Nico.

With that said I thought Lewis did a really good job of not taking chances and securing his 18 points.

50

He should be.

You would be.

Too.

51

James has confirmed he has heard the same.

Looks like Rosberg broke the rules first in Bahrain, Ham reciprocated in Spain and pit lane opinion is divided on whether the lock up was deliberate.

So both guilty but if in the play ground and we seem to be, Ham would say he started it!!!!

Shame neither driver has handled it very well.

52

SeeBee

It's a shame that neither driver at Merc comes out of this very well.

No contrition from Rosberg straight after the event for wrecking several drivers flying laps, just fist pumping which does help those who wish to point the finger.

Lewis understandably upset but boy he is is wining no friends with his petulant attitude and you know I am a big fan.

Shame Rosberg couldn't have been a bit sheepish and Hamilton said I don't believe my team would have done that.

I am reading that Rosberg broke an agreement not use boost at Bahrain and Hamilton reciprocated in Spain.

If true I suspect neither trusts the other!!

James have you heard about the above?

53

interesting that the use of the boost button was leaked. Could only have come from

1) Ham (doubtful)

2) Ros (probable) or

3) Merc (possible).

Not knowing the source of this leak could be what is causing Hamilton's lack of trust in the team which is pretty apparent based on the radio transmissions.

55

No Sebee, I wouldn't be.

My integrity wouldn't allow me.

56

James Allen and all those who claimed that LH is - might be - showing mental cracks have not carried out a deep look at the monaco gp itself but also at the history of LH since he arrived in formula one. To start with, I agree that his reaction to NR's qualifying lap was lacking. He could have handled it differently, and better. But in the race itself he showed that far from being beaten psychologically, he drove an excellent race. I am not worried about LH cracking. On the contrary. Just look at 2012 after the twitter gaff. Despite all the onslaught he got by the media and fans, and rightly so, he dominated the next race in Monza and were it not for mechanical failure he could have won the championship that year. But journalists easily forget LH's history when they come to analyze his present - impetuous - behaviour. We urgently need thinking journalists just as we need thinking drivers.

57

Where did I say he cracked?

58

Well Sebee if you think that after all the hardship that Lewis has endured, he can be mentally screwed by some young German boy, you're dreaming.

Nico can continue with his DIRTY tricks and get away with it (like another young German has been able to), but at the end of the day he's no match for Lewis' prowess. And that's what will see Lewis eadily take this year's WDC.

59

Before people post...I mean what Lewis did in previous GPs.

60

Funny how we're learning lately that Lewis isn't that superhuman with passing mode used to fend Nico off for wins. We'll see how this plays out going forward.

I have a feeling Lewis is going to defeat himself. I also think Nico is stronger mentally. For Lewis fan's sake I hope you're right about his speed. Nico took all Lewis threw at him in passing mode, and is eating his ice cream from a P1 Monaco plate tonight.

And don't take this the wrong way, but since you wouldn't it is why you won't be WDC. Don't feel bad, I think I would and I won't be either.

61

The saving grace for Hamilton is that Montreal is next up and he's unbeatable around there

That will rebalance him

If Rosberg has the gloves off watch out for him playing with Ham's mind there to unsettle him...

62

Any comment on Vettel's car breaking down regularly compared to Ricciardo? Was Vettel at fault for his car break down as you would conclude if it has happened to Lewis?

63

Vettel had as many breakdowns as Webber did during their 5 years as team mates. He also had a lot of breakdowns while leading races. But he's been lucky in another respect, he hasn't lost many Championships due to mechanical failure. Arguably he might have had a shot at the title in 2009 too without mechanical failures but that was always a longshot.

This season must feel a bit ironic to Vettel. On the one hand he has struggled with mechanical problems 5 out of 6 weekends. More than any other driver and he must be very frustrated. But if he was to have a nightmare-season he couldn't have chosen a better season than this one. Mercedes is totally dominant and there is no way anybody else will come remotely close to the title. Vettel isn't interested in 3rd places anyway so he'll see the irony. Terrible season and luck, but perfect timing for bad luck as the season has turned out. The irony would be complete if Vettel wins the championship next season on the back of lady luck. Remember that timing is everything also when it comes down to luck.

64

I can imagine that Red Bull are trying more aggressive strategies on Vettel's car, which stress the car more and therefore cause more failures. They have a history of wanting to make Vettel look good and up to a point it also makes sense to try out new things on one car only.

Or it's just plain bad luck. They will never tell, if one or the other is the case though, so it's all pure speculation.

65

C63, you're really all in with Lewis eh? What if he isn't a closer? Jury is still out on that, he's just 50% conversion, saved by a Toyota really for the 50% rating. May hurt your feelings if you open your emotions like that. 😉

66

While its fun to laugh at Vettel having a Webber-like run of bad luck this year, he also had a lot of failures in the past too. Its just unlike Webber he was able to win when the car didn't break. Its a feature of Newey cars they win or the break trying. Good luck to Riciardo to keep making the most of his working car.

67

Red Bull have never been good at giving their number 2 driver a reliable car.

68
Michael Grievson

They gave Vettel Webbers old car by mistake 😉

69
Rodrigo Martins

I think all the Webber's bad luck went to vettel!!

70

I think he got Webber's package this year

71

Maybe Vettel inherited Webber's car?

72

vettel has been given webbers car by mistake

73

Vettel has Webber's old car it would seem!

74

Prehaps Vettel is just driving the car too hard, in trying to match Ricarrdo he is putting too much stress on the car which in turn leads to more mechanical faults.

Thats what I have heard other supposedly knowledgable commentators suggest anyway.

75

+1

what goes around (sebee) comes around 🙂

76

There won't be any comments on Vettel having car problems like he has bearly all season, at the next race comments will be 'Ricciardo beating Vettel' stuff like that but there won't be mentions of any car issues, not from these so called 'fans' nor will there be much mention from the british media, they can all praise Ricciardo as much as they can but I didn't see anything sepecial there he couldn't even keep up with Raikkonen's much inferior Ferrari early on, Vettel has had powertrain issues nearly every race apart from Malaysia and Barcelona and at those races he was quicker than Ricciardo, I doubt Dan will be Seb unless these reliability issues continue as they are.

77
H.Guderian (ALO fan)

Karma???

78

Oh snap

79

After that 4 year run, gotta balance the books a bit. I've accepted it, hope Seb has too.

Since I kinda like RBR at least I have a good backup to cheer for in Daniel. Not sure Lewis fans have such a fallback. 😉

80

Yes, they give Seb the Webber Car 😀

81

Amazing work by Rosberg, Hamilton & Riccardo, as well as Raikkonen. However, the today's praise must go to Jules Bianchi for bringing his team the first ever world championship point. Fantastic!!

82

Raikkonen? The guy drove like an amateur.

83

Rubbish! Amateurs are never in line for a podium finish. It was amateurs that ruined his race.

Have another look at the race when you can.

84

He drove like a grandma in loews. He got reprimanded for his silly driving.

85

Did Lewis' diamond ear ring come out inside the helmet?

86

No, it's jealous of his lifestyle comments from a wannabe like you!

87

Not sure about what got into Lewis eye, but what's your theory on why Vettel is struggling with his car (reliability) so much? Might it be the way he drives - is he too hard on the car causing it to break down all the time?

It can't all be bad luck, can it?

88

I think he is too hard on it but it's probably just bad luck. As much as I think Webber was the poor son of Red Bull, I think most of his issues were probably just bad luck.

I think Vettel has settled into the mode of ragging the car into corners and waiting for the insane diffuser power to level it out (a skill that obviously Webber couldn't learn as well after decades of driving in the opposite way) but in still not convinced that would blow Vettels car up.

Maybe it's just Daniel is so awesome it makes Vettel look bad - saying that - pick any of the sports legends and you'll find a year where they just struggled and toiled. Maybe this is Vettels year in the desert...

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There was a mixup this winter....... Vettel got Webbers car, and Ricciardo got Vettels.....

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Since it seems to be software, I think we can attribute this to the geeks.

Although, Lewis could be responsible here for Vettel's issues too. The MB AMG is so fast RBR are pushing too hard to catch it, thus flying too close to the sun.

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It's not bad luck, it's bad preparation.

Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.........yes it's a rather tired old cliche, but it's still true.......

Having said that, last year Mark had his share of reliability and operational issues.....let me think.....wheels falling off on track, car exploding into flames, tyre not attached properly while exiting the pit-lane.......

In other words, Red Bull do have pedigree in not always putting all the right nuts on the right bolts, whether internal or external.....

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Trying too hard? Yeah for one minute I thought you were being serious... lolol

He was trying so hard to break the car from behind the safety car he blew the turbo.

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Poor Vettel, Lewis used to be blamed for failures because of pushing hard at Mclaren by Button fans. I'm an engineer and I know that the best way to spot improvement avenues in a system, is to run it to its maximum.

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Haha the guys car breaks down and people still find a way to blame him. The boo boys are back in force

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Certainly Vettel is too hard on his equipment. Just like Webber in the past.

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I think it's unfair to blame him without any proof and the team rant suggesting that it was his fault. I know he is not popular but he would have come third today (ahead of DR with a compromised car that caused him to loose 0.1 second during qualifying.

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Or was it Nicole's beauty stuck in his retina?

Theories welcome.

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I'm sure someone or something is to blame because Lewis can't be beaten. Ever. If I had to guess I'd expect it was a problem with his helmet visor which was mishandled/sabotaged by the Merc team prior to the race. Shocking!

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Actually I blame Vettel!!!!

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Tears of frustration . . . obviously . . .

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Alternatively it was Martin Whitmarsh and Jenson Button who set up an eye puncturing device in his helmet!!!!!!11!!

Oh sorry - the old conspiracy theory ghosts took possession of me there...;)

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And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,

but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

It was divine retribution for his rich boy comments 😉

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If it was divine retribution for comments about rich man poor man im sure he would of had more than an eye problem

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Actually, Lewis was crying because Alonso's girlfriend is hotter than Nicole.

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Christmas Dinner

Good work x

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Accurate comment! Spot on! 😀

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No, just tears from running in second

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Valid point.

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+1

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Congrats to Nico!

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Yeah who said that crime doesn't pay?

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How was Ricciardo lapping a second faster than both Mercedes at the end? Tyres?

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The guy is a talent, he has completely put Vettel out of the picture. Vettel excuses is endless these days. Well done Ricciardo.

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Yeah, but the Aussie got a mysteriously bad start with Vettel the beneficiary. Haven't we heard this story before?

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His engine broke. That's a pretty good excuse.

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I still can't believe what Ricciardo is doing to Vettel. He has made Vettel look like a rookie. It's unbelievable and what does this say about Mark Webber? The Vettel "fanboys" can't say Vettel leads in points. He has been overtaken. He is officially the #2 driver at Redbull. Daniel Ricciardo ia a future F1 Champion.

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Lololol Lance he's having you on, don't worry about it, its better to have a unreliable and weak season when the car can't win the championship rather than a championship winning car BUT then even when the car constantly having issues and other bad luck Seb still won the championship, he could have even potentially took Hamilton at Monaco when Hamilton faded badly towards the end espcially going by his Barcelona pace.

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Now you're being silly. Vettel's car has had issues at every race. Ricciardo has done well but he's not a 4x WDC. If Ricciardo had a few wins and was contending for the WDC, then Vettel would be upset. It doesn't make much difference if Ricciardo is the best of the rest. Vettel is out there to win and the Red Bull is just not fast enough.

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Cars are different, and this plays a role. I can cycle on anything, but I'm way better on MTB than on the road.

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Hear hear. He even blamed the turbo charger for his DNF today...the nerve...

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A bit harsh on Vettel - he has had a share of car issues. Ricciardo is doing a sterling job though.

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Before today SV was ahead of DR in the standings and he would be even further clear if not for yet another mechanical failure. Hardly out of the picture

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kenneth chapman

and i suppose that a DQ and a DNF for ricciardo means zippedy doo dah in the full picture either?

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In most races this season yes. But Barcelona was close and we have no idea where Vettel would have ended up today in a working car; most likely ahead of Ricciardo after his start.

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I haven't heard a stream of excuses from Vettel.

When Ricciardo beats him on pace he's admitted it and gave credit, and when the car fails he says what went wrong with the car.

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H.Guderian (ALO fan)

Yes.

That boy is REALLY good.

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I agree with you, we'll said

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Oh yeah because the car breaking is an excuse

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It is a reason, the reason he didn't finish 3rd in the Monaco go, the reason he is not third in the WDC

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His car broke down

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Hey KBR, I never said he would dominate in a merc and your two car finish stat is misleading as in Monaco and Malaysia Vettel was gonna finish ahead, in Barcelona his race was destroyed by his car breaking down in quali and in Aus .... We will never know. I'm not saying SV is better but I am saying he's far from being dominated and pushed out of the picture. I do wish RBR would let them fight more though, when merc let LH fight off a faster NR it's great TV (Bahrain) I'd like to see SV try to keep DR behind.

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@Dave C, China was disastrous for Vettel. In terms of two-car finishes this year, he trails Ricciardo 3-0.

Not sure how you go from that, to saying he'd be dominating in the Merc this year. I like Ricciardo, but both Hamilton and Rosberg are better than him. I would like to see Hamilton versus Vettel in the same team, and we know that Lewis was not against it, wanting to go to Red Bull. Rosberg's new contract likely puts paid to that though, for at least two more seasons.

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By the way the above is not me. Its not how many finishes its how the car was in the races. It was clear Vettel had low power at Bahrain as well and that Barcelona quali was disastrous.

Whats clear is that Ricciardo is very fast as predicted but I still see Vettel beating him if these car issues are ironed out especially next year when things stabalise. Every top driver gets beaten at one point or another just look at Alonso by Trulli and Hamilton! Senna by Prost and was also losing to Hill! Hamilton by Button and now losing to Rosberg.

However if you stick Vettel in Rosberg's seat at Mercedes this year he'd dominate like he dominated before with the best car.

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How many race finishes for each?

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Yes, the Red Bull looked after its tyres a lot more. Rosberg clearly had a bit of pace in hand though, and the lost time due to the Sutil safety car (about 10 seconds?) made it seem closer.

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Nico half way clear.

Lewis half way blind.

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A decent race, but the Mercs were untouchable yet again, even with all the time lost through safety cars and Lewis' issue they took a 1-2. Has the best chance for another team to take a win this season already gone?

Also disappointing neither Merc driver felt the need to make any kind of conciliatory move towards the other; I don't expect them to be best friends or anything but a whole season plus of this is just going to get tiresome.

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Leslie D'Amico

Oh I don't know, Senna vs. Prost at McLaren never got tiresome, quite entertaining as I remember it. Didn't you think so James?

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Your second paragraph answers the first. As Lewis said he would take a page out of Senna's book, they will take each other out as soon as they get to a circuit with a lot of runoff at turn 1. 😉

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kenneth chapman

the fact is that he couldn't have taken rosberg out because he was so far in front at turn 1.

a hollow threat. hamilton is now backing off his previous statements, in some cases stating that he was taken out of context? his eye problem was also a confection i think. a convenient excuse to cover his lack of talent!

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Maybe on a track where it is possible to overtake he may have had a go, didn't see any top car attack and pass another top car, cars out of posistion performance wise made the odd pass, have a closer look at the footage regards the eye, on the two different feeds I watched the commentators both mentioned the eye looking sore, I thought so too. Had Nico pulled away during the race I would have thought he had the edge on pace, but as Lewis seemed to run the pace with no problems it would have been interesting to see if he could have pulled away if ahead, in the last 11 Monaco races the pole man has won, except one time when Lewis won,so clearly it's nearly impossible to pass an equal car, regardless of talent. I never said Nico had no talent or suggested a lack of it in this race or the previous ones. Only some on here make those type of comments.

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kenneth chapman

@truth....i have watched the post race interviews, especially the one after the podium where it is full close up. his eyes looked perfectly normal to me and neither of them even showed any redness!

my comment re 'talent' was meant to convey his inability to even attempt an attack on rosberg and push him even further. some drivers actually made passes on track. some were successful some weren't but if he is as good as some you make out then he certainly could've tried harder. but no, he just complained to the pit wall.

under the circumstances i think that rosberg showed his talent more than adequately....by comparison that is.

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Didn't look like his eye problem was made up, his one eye looked puffed and sore,what reason to lie as he said it would not have changed the outcome and played it down.Even with eyes open some will only see what they wish to see, the lack of talent comment lets us all see what you wish we're true, with my eyes closed I see through that type of post based on dislike rather than facts.

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Oh come on.!!

A season of back slapping is just want nobody wants, and actually a lot is being made out of very little at the moment, they haven't even banged wheels on track yet.

I actually feel a bit sorry for Nico, I don't think he did anything on purpose and he seems to be the most uncomfortable with this ramping up of the tension between him and Lewis.

Being nice does not win you a WDC in fact the opposite tends to be true.

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Torchwood Five

The way Daniel closely pursued the second Mercedes, I don't know how you can call them "untouchable".

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Under normal circumstances, Ricciardo wouldn't have gotten near the Mercs. Ricciardo only got near Hamilton because of (i) the eye issue (or for all you conspiracy theorists, whatever issue he was suffering with his car instead of his eye issue) (ii) the safety car reducing Mercs' lead by 10 seconds (iii) Monaco reducing Mercedes' advantage over the field significantly. And he still couldn't get second.

Even if Ricciardo found a way past Hamilton, Rosberg was 9 seconds up the road. With the safety car time that would have been 19 seconds, about the advantage they've had at other tracks.

Mercedes will not be beaten on pace this year, if they are it will be because of reliability/driver error.

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Nicely put

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Ricciardo is proving to be a great driver who has got to grips with this type of car. He was able to get closer to Hamilton because of the issue with something in Hamilton's eye which cost serious lap time, and allowed Rosberg to pull a gap. That said I think the Red Bull car looks after it's rear tyres better perhaps having more rear downforce.

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I watched/listened to the post race interviews with Nico and Lewis but when the analysts dissected what they said, it appeared as if they had listened to something other than me. I think a large part of this 'feud' is an invention of the media. It's normal teammate rivalry to me, they both know that one of them will win the WDC - you can't really expect them to be pals.

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No way.

I sat in front of the in pressed Saturday and Sunday and Ham has clearly lost trust in ROS and wants to stoke it. We are not making this up, I assure you.

Some of the media may be using top spin, but the breakdown of trust has happened and that's toxic in a team

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Toxic for the team, but great for fans. A dash of bitters in the rivalry really spices up the competition.

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So in fact Nico started the distrust by using the forbidden extra power engine map in Bahrain.?

What have the likes of @rockie and @tealeaf got to say about that.

Not a lot I guess.

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the kiLLing JoKe

Ham wants to stoke it alright, and that's a shame because I believe he has the outright speed to beat Nico. However between the ears Nico has the edge and as someone once said of Mike Tyson also applies to Hamilton,'He'll break before he bends'. Put your head down Hammy and focus on racing and this championship is yours. Keep pouting and playing minds and Nico will take when you aren't looking.

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Hamilton lost trust in Nico? What do you expect after all the mental abuse Hamilton's trying to put on Rosberg in the last month or so?!?! I'm sure if someone's been taunting you like Hamilton has for a period of time they wouldn't expect you to still be their best pal or anything...

So I suppose Rosberg should trust Hamilton to play it fair yeah? With Hamilton's high power mode always on and crying to the team for preferential treatment???

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do you think it was the red mist and after some time apart they could have a more relaxed attitude?

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James I totally disagree with your line of thought with regards Hamilton, he's trying to cause disruptions within the team after it was actually proven he was dishonest and used an illegal engine map setting to stay ahead in the last race.

Where does that leave him with Rosberg? I think it's a little rich for him to try that.

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Really enjoyed your commentary today James, a while since I have tuned in, almost as good as the telly!

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Peter Freeman

Is that commentary available as streaming audio online by any chance

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Peter Freeman

Ah the overpriced F1 app that does not work on my phones platform...

The one thing FOM is doing a very good job of is excluding as many people as possible from having access to any kind of live coverage of races!

Personally I am praying that German judge locks E up for the rest of his days!!!

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$14 is much more reasonable than the $40 odd it's been in previous years, and it has more features...

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I enjoy Jame's commentary too; it's on Radio 5live but you can't get it from outside the UK (unless you use the VPN tricks). However the new F1 app uses 5 Live commentary, and I listen to it while watching on Channel 10 here in Australia. Too many ad breaks. Jame is good, but sometimes there is a different guy doing the commentary.

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It's available through the f1 app.

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olderguysrule

yes james, can we stream your race coverage across the pond?

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No but it is on the Official F1 App

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Great drive by Rosberg today but hollow victory in my mind!

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VP of Common Sense

It's not a hollow victory, your opinion is short sighted. Hamilton left it too late in qualifying and he was at the mercy of his teammate, the rest of the field, and the track if something were to go wrong. Hamilton shouldn't have been slower earlier in the session when the two Merc drivers set their best laps. It was a measured drive today from Rosberg, while Hamilton pouted on the radio all day long. Montreal has been a strong track historically for Hamilton, he'll have ample opportunity to regain the WDC lead.

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Of course one does not expect to get blocked by ones team mate. The strategy last one over the line is the best one, and to be fair to Lewis I think he only found the time to beat Rosberg on his last pole run which was over 2 tenths up on Rosberg at the point where Hamilton had to back off. I think Rosberg's stunt was very carefully executed but quite deliberate.

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Oh, finally a very considered observation. Thank you, Mr Vice President, for telling it like it was.

Lewis is a fine driver but, he still needs to grow up.

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I have a feeling Rosberg won't be smiling in Canada.

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Monaco (like Montreal) is a track that gets a lot faster as it rubbers in. "Leaving it late" is the best strategy by far.

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vetted used to leave it late all the time and everyone congratulated him. yes it is a risky strategy but that does not justify [mod] as lewis believes it was hence his upset mode.

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VP of Common Sense

It's never smart to be slower than your teammate at any stage. He shouldn't have left it late. That left eye must have been red and puffy from all the tears and pouting.

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He just needs to avoid driving into stationary cars in the pit lane or team mates on the straight.

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Shame, A Buttons fan. How do you cope with his slow nature?

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Isn't Hamilton's win at Barcelona a bit hollow due to Hamilton turning his engine up? Also isn't all Mercedes wins hollow due to a dominating car?

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Hollow? I'd say overflowing.

If accidental, than that's life. Mistakes happen.

If on purpose, simply brilliant perfection of execution.

Either way, great show by Nico.

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H.Guderian (ALO fan)

"If on purpose, simply brilliant perfection of execution"

EXACTLY

That with Schummy was far away from perfect, huh???

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Look, facts are facts.

Schumi made a simple little mistake.

Alonso knew nothing in Singapore 2008.

End of. 😉

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PS, Wasn't that pass on the Mini-Mag by the Hulk at Portier fantastic? Incredible piece of opportunism, skill and commitment! I don't think I've ever seen a driver pass a competitor on merit (racing, not lapping) there before!

The Incredible Hulk's pass on Mini-Mag has to be the best overtake so far this year!

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It was a great show by Nico, as I said.

But to have to win by screwing up your main competitor, whether by design or by accident is pretty desperate.

Hardly "overflowing" whatever that means?!

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@luqa

Rosberg actually used the overtake mode in Bahrain against team orders first. So it was Rosberg who initiated this not Hamilton.

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Can't be desperate if it's an accident. It's unfortunate, but it could have been any driver preventing others from completing their lap. I don't think Nico intentionally went to "crash" at that corner.

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If it was by accident how can it be desperate?

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It would seem LH pulled a fast one in Barcelona by engaging in the over-take mode while trying to fend off NR- contrary to a prearranged team-order.

Strange that this little incidence of blatant cheating by LH- ignoring team orders has been virtually ignored by the press. Yet last year SV was crucified for similarly ignoring a team orders.

It's also why LH admitted NR was quicker than him in Barcelona, and why now the suspicion is hanging in the air over every move. That's twice now than LH- Bahrain and Barcelona, has been caught disturbing team harmony, and he wonders why NR is doing his own thing.

LH IS fast- no doubt, but he has the maturity and attitude of a child unfortunately..

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Disappointed with hamiltons attitude on the podium, lucky ricciardos smile lit up the stage, Lewis should be happy his car can fight for p1, plenty of other people on the grid that would gladly switch with him

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I consider myself a Hamilton fan and was very disappointed in his attitude all weekend long. He is sulking around like a temperamental toddler. I believe there was something unsavory in the way Nico caused the yellow flag on Saturday, but Lewis never had the measure of him on Sunday. Nico clearly outclassed him Sunday. Lewis needs to grow up. The negative sulky attitudes are spoiling the competition.

I realize that these guys don't want to lose, but both Nico and Lewis act so poorly when they finish second.

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Hang on when did Rosberg have the measure of Lewis on Sunday? From what I saw he was up Rosbergs a#$ all the time so how was he outclassed? You didn't actually expect Lewis to overtake right? Not in Monaco.

Also, in regards to Hamiltons sulking- lets be honest he had every right to be all doom and gloom - he was essentially robbed of the chance to try for pole and because of the nature of the track - little chance of a win. Rosberg was all doom and gloom on the spanish podium too - they both with the package they have, have a right to be less than happy if they don't get a win.

I for one am enjoying the sulking - wear your heart on your sleeve boys - I don't want to see any of that political correctness and all smiles for the camera crap.

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@Poyta Hoorah well said I totally agree these people who moan and vilify lewis must all be saints and live there lives turning the other cheek I think not

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I totally agree with you re Hamilton's attitude, Silverback, he's behaving like a little boy that's had his teddy taken away! He seems to think it is his RIGHT to be winning, well he might grasp the reality of life one day when he finally grows up! (If he ever does!)

He should have a yarn to Scott Dixon (Indy car driver) about how to handle a faster/luckier team mate!

PK.

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@Paul Kirk I find your comments about Lewis's lack of maturity and sportsmanship cheap, and dismissive. He is trying to win a world title the thing he believes he was put on this earth for. and at times he says and does things to try and make sense of certain situations, I bet you have behaved in exactly the same manner over far less than a world title I know I have. and I have no doubt whatsoever all the people that criticise his lack of maturity are equally guilty of behaving in a less than mature way. history teaches many things one is when you are touched by genius and make no mistake Lewis is a genius you will always be prone to the odd break down there are many people who have suffered for there genius: john McEnroe, Ronnie osullivan, George best, Paul Gascoigne and that's just in sport! so don't be so quick to judge !

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You're right in many ways, Flesh, but Hamilton's demeanor invites critisism. If you saw the Indy 500, and the WSBK races at Donnington on the same weekend and saw how the podium finishers behaved and showed genuine pleasure at achieving their results and enjoying their races, whether 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, I think you'd have to admit Hamilton has a bit to learn. I know we can't help our personality, but he is a professional.

PK.

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no. why do people keep saying lewis can't handle not winning? it's not losing that was the problem he believed (rightly or wrongly) that nico [mod] and that was why he was so annoyed.
fair enough to criticise but at least get the facts correct.

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I didn't see nico show him any love either. Doesn't seem as on sided as your making it out to be.

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kenneth chapman

and why should he? hamilton accused him of cheating! hamilton deserves no quarter. live by the sword die by the sword.

i had to laugh at hamiltons dismissive comments re ricciardo. it very nearly came back and bit him on the bum. hahaha

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I agree - I think if Hamilton wants to really mess Rosberg up he should be really nice and congratulate him - that'd confuse the hell out of him!

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Yeah he should be over the moon that his teammate decided to cheat him out of a win.

But hey, nico apologised right? so it's lewis who is the bad guy for not accepting it.

nico: "hey lew, sorry for cheating you out of a pole at a track where it's pretty much impossible to win from any other position"

lewis: "yeah no problem bro gotta do what you gotta do!"

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Bruno Menilli

Rosberg won this race fair and square, he didn't cheat and for Hamilton not to congratulate him is just another example of Hamilton throwing his toys out of the pram when things don't go his way.

He didn't even have the backbone to politely express how he really felt.

This is not the way a prospective champion should act especially to promote the sport.

Even though he must have been disappointed it was just more very juvenile and amateurish behaviour from Hamilton, which just about sume him up.

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Why do you want them to be nice and boring to each other? The championship needs something of interest.

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I don't recall Rosberg congratulating Lewis the past 4 races and I certainly don't recall you berating Rosberg for that, so please spare us the Lewis bashing. Fact is, he feels Nico got pole unfair, whether rightly or wrongly. And If that is the way he feels he has every right to register is disappointment, protest, anger or whatever, rather than act according to your will.

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I entirely agree but the one thing that keeps nagging at me is if lewis had done what nico had done on Saturday in quali would the stewards have done the same thing and found no problem. I don't think so I am totally convinced lewis would have incurred a grid penalty. which supports my belief that lewis cannot trust anyone not even his team let alone his team mate and especially the Fia I guarantee you as the season progresses lewis will find himself in all kinds of trouble for the most stupid of things and it could ruin his chance of wdc number 2 I hope im wrong

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Exactly.

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Well said. Nico drove a great race which left Lewis with little oppotunity of passing. Didnt like hw lewis mourned his team for the pitstop after Sutil's accident, as a team they did what was right. Plus Lewis behaviour after the race. There was no respect to his teammate, indirectly to the team as a whole. How could he earn his priority within the team if he let his temper go unleashd? Lewis should feel gutted after the qualy but hes been in Racing long enough to understand that.

Feel gutted for Kimi. For a little while the flying fin was back.

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+1

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Plenty of drivers don't congratulate the winner, Nico hasn't congratulated Lewis every time he's been beaten during the last few races. I frankly don't care either way, I'm far more interested in what drivers do on the track rather than away from it.

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Incredible how many suddenly come out the woodwork the minute there is either a Lewis loss or some controversy or another. Hundreds of them all suddenly vindicated. Amazing.

In other news - SV sounded particularly upset this time although I am unsure what the 'guys' could have done. Its actually quite difficult to see how his car is having so many issues as this is now far beyond the 'looking to get the rear end how he likes it'

There is a real reliability issue here and regardless of how the car goes - he is right at the edge of suffering grid issues through parts usage already.

I actually am impressed with his ability to hold it together!

I would have flipped -

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Bring back V12's !!!

Red Bull have always put together brilliant packages with the exception of poor reliability. I do think there is some merit to what others have been saying in regards to him pushing the car too hard in order to squeeze performance out of it though.

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Actually nico did..in fact they hugged at Bahrain and at Spain.

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If he didn't cheat, he definitely benefitted from his own mistake yesterday. Not sure that's how it's supposed to work in sports.

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Nico never cheated he won on merit BUT I was surprised to hear about Lulu using the over boost he was told by the team NOT to use at the last race. Surprised because it took two weeks to come out ... & that the source wasn't Nico.

Had the shoe been on the other foot, Lulu would immediately have being crying to the media, tweeting images of Nico's boost data, having a tantrum, and threatening repercussions.

Again, who would serve the Mercedes brand better as World Champion?

Time for some team orders Toto ... otherwise you're going to be doing damage control, despite succeeding at winning the titles!

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It happened in Bahrain and Lewis never said anything publicly, perhaps he doesn't react quite the way you imagine, now Lewis has done it also we get to hear about it. Are you more or less surprised now?

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I think you'll find Lewis used that mode in Barcelona in retaliation to ROS using the mode he shouldn't of at Bahrain. Think its best you have a sit and think before you make such silly comments as it can make you look a clown : D

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/12472/9325650/lewis-hamilton-denies-being-friends-with-nico-rosberg-as-gloves-come-off-at-mercedes

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Umm, Nico used the setting in Bahrain. I didn't hear Lewis crying to the media.

Too many stimulus-and-response type comments of late. Let's use the thing between our ears, that separates us from basic animals.

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So would this extra boost have regained him the full 2.5 seconds that his team lost him to Nico in the pits at that race?

Not saying that it was deliberate on the part of Mercedes, but if your team lose you that much time to your chief competitor, and you have a button that can redress that balance, wouldn't you feel entitled to use it?

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It's already established that he didn't cheat. Sebee has it right.

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Hmm, what was established, by the stewards (not the first time nor the last that I'll disagree with them, I'm sure!), was that there was no evidence that he did cheat.

Basically a not guilty verdict versus a declaration of innocence.

The stewards are not gods, just fallible humans.

I have an opinion, that's it. It can't be proven, nor disproven.

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It's monaco, stuff like that always happens in quali..its part of the track!

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When will Lewis be a man and apologize for the threat about performing a Senna, and his poor attitude toward Mercedes F-1 race management?

Don't hold your breath. Lewis is entitled to slander others because he's the greatest ever! LOL

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VP of Common Sense

Senna would have handled it by winning pole over his teammate. He would have had some laughs at Lewis's expense if he were around today.

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Maybe he means he will let his driving be the deciding factor like Senna and prove himself on track fairly,people and the media always jump to the worst conclusions. Maybe your correct in saying he is the greatest ever but surely it's a bit early to judge that as it's only the start of his eigth year in the sport. Taking a leaf out of Senna's book was the quote......the same Senna that is worshiped for such an attitude. Funny how time distorts the memory of drivers in the past, and their actions.Senna with his flaws seems to be held in higher regard than Prost who was better but more balanced in character and therefore less exciting or volatile,and Lewis with his flaws is seemingly disliked for his flaws despite his talent and exciting style.

As for slander, you have to actually say something to slander someone, body language and being clearly peeved is not slander, maybe you can point out the slander you speak of as I may have missed that.

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Umm, you don't know what he meant by "I'll handle it like Senna handled it". It could be that he meant I'll win it on the track.

Don't bad-mouth him just b/c you've inferred certain intentions from his comments.

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Come on KRB, it happens all the time in sport and life.

Ever see a player come out of a penalty box and score on a breakaway? Never or only all the time? Figured hockey comparo would be OK for you.

Maybe we should start an F1 list of such events?

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@Sebee, must I do your work for ya? Here's an example I thought of. Not sure if you're a footy fan or what.

In the last WC in S.Africa, in the QF between Uruguay and Ghana, Luis Suarez blocked a shot from going into the net with his arm. It was totally deliberate, and it prevented a 100% certain goal. It was 1-1 at the time, with the game in Extra Time. Suarez was red-carded, and Ghana was awarded a penalty, b/c the handball occurred in the box. Anyways, Ghana's Asomoah Gyan missed the PK, Uruguay hung on, and won the game on penalties.

So yes, Suarez made a mistake ... well, not even a mistake, a total professional foul. He was sanctioned (red card), but still his team benefitted in the end b/c they advanced to the semi's. In that instance, I believe footy's rules should award a penalty goal. It would've clearly gone in had Suarez not used his arm. Rugby has penalty tries, which work well. Football should have the same.

I have a lot of problems with many of the rules (or Laws) in football. Cynical fouls to break up an attack, to allow out-of-position defenders to get back, are another example in football of rewarding those that make mistakes. Even making free kick takers wait for a whistle is against natural sporting justice, in my eyes. You've fouled someone else, so back the hell up and they can take it whenever they damn well please!

I'm sure you've heard of Declan Hill, and his book 'The Fix'. Depressing stuff. Football is so susceptible to that, b/c of the scarcity of goals in general. Much harder to fix a hockey game, b/c on average there are 5.5 goals/game, whereas with footy it's around 2.5.

Footy of course is ruled over by dinosaurs, so that's why many of the more irritating aspects of the game remain. F1's not as bad, though they're nowhere near good.

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KRB, I felt it was decently close as he's in there only because of an infraction, and often gets position via element of surprise.

You asked about it in sports. I felt panalty and getting a scoring opportunity upon exit thanks to it was a decent example. But I'm sure we can come up with other examples.

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kenneth chapman

@ H guderian.... kimi would not have lasted the distance,IMO, as he was driving like a madman. his reprimand for his accident is a stark reminder that he has lost it. his stupid attempt to pass at the hairpin was never going to work in a million years.

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Yeah, not a good comparison Sebee, seeing as the penalized player there has served the entire penalty, the team has been shorthanded for 2 minutes. If a player coming out of the box then scores on a breakaway, it's b/c the team on the power play have not covered for the possibility of getting caught by the player emerging from the box.

In your scenario the team and player have paid for their mistake, and that player then scoring is not down to benefitting from their own mistake, but the other team's. As it should be.

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H.Guderian (ALO fan)

@Truth

True.

Kimi deserved the 3rd place today.

Great start and a *huge* bad luck.

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Hardly the same thing, but I'm not one to enjoy the misfortune of others. More bad luck for Seb and Kimi, no doubt some will take glee in that also, not me though. I just enjoy good clean racing.

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Great race, in terms of close battles and intrigue.

I thought I noticed that LH didn't wait for the interviews to be over before he wandered away from the "podium ceremony". Poor form, I thought.

I fear that the For Sale signs will beup at Caterham before too long: they can't hope to beat Marussia now and further points scoring opportunities are unlikely.

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He had to have his eye check out by the doctor. That is why he walked off. But I suppose its Lewis so why should the facts interfere with a good ol' Lewis bashing.

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Well said its always been trendy to bash lewis and all those lewis bashers will miss him when he is gone

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Bruno Menilli

Really, you think he would be missed ?

I for one would not, as he acts just like a petulant spoiled brat when things don't go right for him, almost as if he is paranoid, believing that the only way he can be beaten is by the others cheating or something going wrong with his car or their car be better than his.

Perhaps he should try to learn how to sing and go off and be a gangsta rapper or some other pop dude.

He just exudes 'bad image' and does the sport no good, whilst showing no respect for other drivers.

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I didn't realise that is what he was doing, but at any other event you would wait until the interviews were over before doing that.

As I said, I can understand his feeling of frustration this weekend. Bashing or not, I still think it was poor form.

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Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument.

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LOL. I guess if you consider the interviews to be more important than your health then that would be the appropriate action to take. Anyhow, the doctor cleared him and he resumed his activities. But then again, its Lewis, and anything he does is wrong somehow.

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Interesting double standards in comparing drivers attitudes, Raikkonen is rude often and even walks off during being interviewed but is considered a legend as a result, Lewis says nothing wrong and refused to be drawn on the qualifying incident but because of his body language and obvious displeasure he is slaughtered, many Senna worshipers loved his sore loser attitude, and volatile nature. A good loser is often just a loser.

I'm not suggesting you share these double standards, your post just made me think about this.

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Kimi is cold regardless whether things go down his way or not. He always says well this is racing and rarely made any negative comments about the team. at least he shows respect to his fellow drivers n teams. However i see much less respect from lewis when his teammate beats him, be it a mistake or deliberate action in the qualy, fact is lewis could not get ahead of Nico in neither sessions. He thinks he lost out because of nico's 'cheating', but it is part of the racing and i didnt see his outright pace in this wknd to secure a win.

He should just have kept his cool like hw kimi did and move on.

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Yes maybe your right that when Kimi says Perez should be punched in the face he's saying it to respect other drivers.

I like Kimi but don't remember Hamilton saying something so strong as that, although he is obviously judged more harshly than others, Kimi is just an example. Kimi didn't keep cool after Barcelona, he walked away mid question in a mood, no outrage for that.

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Let's not forget Nico's start. His starts were awful so he said he would look into why it was happening. This time he had a much better start than Lewis. I bet Lewis thought he would take the lead at the start, like he's been doing a lot lately, and is frustrated that Nico smoked him this time. That was the race right there.

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You're right, I didn't mention Raikkonen.

My point was that at any other event you don't just leave the rostrum while another driver is being interviewed. Monaco is a different track to the others, but in my opinion it shows a lack of respect.

Since we are talking double standards though, Hamilton has been accused of cheating by lying to the stewards to protect a position in the past, and from memory was found guilty; Rosberg wasn't. I don't think he has any moral high ground here.

His actions are understandable in such a competitive environment, I just thought it was poor form.

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+1. But I thought he went to see the Doctor?

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He did, but who cares about facts when Lewis, Alonso or Vettel are involved?

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I see your point. However, I think the difference between Kimi and Lewis is that, win or lose, Kimi wants nothing to do with PR. On the other hand, Lewis is Mr. Hollywood in that his face is everywhere and he even writes his own column for the BBC. So his current attitude really stands out.

On a different note, it looks like Lewis and Vijay Malya now have the same hair dresser...

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I have to take back my previous. Raik blamed chiton for the hairpin crash. Not typical.

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as surprising as it might comes from Raikkonen - he did have his race spoilt by a Marussia, which must feel pretty annoying

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The difference is kimi is consistent is his approach. Lewis is just moody.

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Raikonnen doesn't blame or make excuses.

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Sorry I love Kimi as a driver but REALLY?

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+1

you saved me the job of replying 🙂

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Not really double standards, Hamilton often comes across as a brat, Kimi, usually comes across as cool. It's a matter of style — you've either got it or you haven't....

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kenneth chapman

@ kimi is cool? c'mon. this iceman image is a total sham. he is not cool, just boring.

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Kimi is disinterested by the whole media aspect, Lewis is sulking. That's the difference

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Because Raikkonen is consistently like that, that's who he is, he doesn't care about bull****. Other drivers pretend they are are Mr. Perfect when everything is going fine but chuck their toys out of the pram when things go against them

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The most exciting Monaco race for years. Driver of the day gotta be Bianchi, what a run for him. And what an effort by Ricciardo at the end; a pity he ran out of laps.

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A big call to award driver of the day to someone who managed to garner 3 penalties....

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It didn't matter how many more laps you gave him - as long as Hamilton kept it neat and online, with the grunt the Merc has out of corners there was no way Ricciardo was going to overtake without a big mistake from Hamilton.

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kenneth chapman

there is a lot truth there. nevertheless ricci kept up the pressure and drove superbly. brundle et al were waxing deleriously about the way ricci threw the car at some of the corners and always under complete control. it was like watching webber when he won monaco so convincingly in the past.

monaco is the litmus test for error free driving and ricciardo passed it with flying colours. by comparison just look at raikonnen's ill fated attempt to pass at the hairpin? that's the difference i am talking about.

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kenneth chapman

@ rockie....who said anything about positions? i agreed in principle that, all things being equal, ricciardo may not have taken second place however that was not the thrust of my post. if you read it again,carefully, all i am saying is that ricciardo drove an excellent race. he also, in case you missed it, was able to close up on hamilton rapidly in order to keep the pressure on. four tenths at the chequered flag! ricciardo also posted a series of fastest laps in pursuit until raikonnen [i think it was him] put the fastest lap on when he changed to a set of new supersofts.

how many other drivers benefited from the retirements and raikonnens puncture compounded by his ill timed and amateur attempt to pass magnussen?

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That's just ridiculous he was poor at the start what did he ace only through retirements did he gain the position back

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Michael Spitale

I would argue Daniel was very lucky today. Kimi and Vettel both ate him up and if they don't drop out he ends 2 places behind start.

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Exactly - Vettel would have been 3rd and Kimi 4th.

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kenneth chapman

there is no way you can say that. yes it was a possible outcome but no one can predict a monaco race with any certainty.

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Great start to a great day of racing! I'm a Lewis fan, but there was no catching Nico today.

Big congratulations to Bianchi and Marussia ... I sure hope their result is confirmed.

Now a short break before the start of the Indy 500.

Jeff

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Correction - there was no passing Nico today - catching seemed easy enough.

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As Lewis said, the two opportunities were at the start, and at the pit stops. Nico got a good start, just as good as Lewis'. I guess Lewis doing work to help Nico's starting issues paid off for Nico.

Then with Sutil's crash, the pit stop opportunity went out the window. It came at a perfect time for Nico, as he was locking up quite frequently near the end of his first stint. I'm not sure he could've gone to 30 laps on his supersofts, or at least not w/o coming under serious pressure from Lewis.

I'm fairly certain that if Lewis was on pole, as he would've been had he been able to complete his last Q3 lap, then he would've been able to pull away from Nico, not just keep him behind. This track, and perhaps the Hungaroring, are perhaps the only ones where Nico could've kept Lewis behind on track.

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This kind of racing isn't going to win new fans for the sport. Quiet processionals won't attract normal people, more like fetishists who are really into their thing. If not for the melodrama and politics there's nothing to see here beyond the raving. Sorry Niki, but I am not worthy, despite following the sport for decades and reading and watching everything I can about it. But save me from counting down the laps please.

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I concur. Apart from the start, the lap 1 incidents, Hulk's overtake, Kimi driving another car into the barrier at the hairpin (can't even remember who it was as it was so insignificant to the race), Sutil's crash, Vettel's retirement, Massa's attempt at rolling the dice on strategy, Kimi's hard race to the back of the pack, a couple of blown engines, Hamilton's yo yoing up to the back of Rosber's car and dropping back again - and his beautiful comment about not being interested in updates about Ricciardo but wanted only to know what was happpening with Rosberg, Bianchi's drive and the pit lane penalty that couldn't be served, and Vergne's unsafe release in front of Magnusson, and Button's move on Magnusson, Guttierez hitting the barrier, it was a dull race that had us all counting down the laps.

I only watched it because I couldn't sleep (it was past my usual bed time here in Oz) but I found it to be one of the better Monaco GPs in recent years - I know that's not saying much as it is usually such a tedious processional bore that ANY action makes it a stand-out compared to other years.

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kenneth chapman

@ brisbane bill....how can you possibly go to bed and miss a GP? i take it then that canada will be well off limits as well?

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I'm getting old and have to seriously catch up on my beauty sleep (although I fear I have missed the boat when it comes to restoring some form of beauty). When I lived in the UK we would have parties to stay up and watch the Australian GP. Now I am down under the majority of GPs are at unsociable hours and with having to get up at 5:30 for work on a Monday I am a bit selective about which events I lose sleep for. Monaco isn't usually on that list. And I am getting on a bit now so don't cope too well without a good haul of hours in the land of nod.

Wasn't going to bother with even recording Canada but now we have a spat going on with the Mercedes pair I will record it and try and avoid all web sites and news bulletins until I get home to watch it.

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Normals will have seen ROS win unchallenged. They won't have heard it, however.

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Well-deserved points for Marussia!

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What a bizarre reason for Lewis to slow down - dirt in his eye! Weird. Well I did speculate would Monaco be another strange race.......to a certain extent it was.

Anyway well done Rosberg Junior. Nico didn't put a wheel wrong all race. Faultless performance. I also speculated that if he didn't win here he might be mentally off his stride - he was answered all his critics - myself included - in the best possible way. Victory, and entirely on merit. Well done.

Driver of the day - the Incredible Hulk. For a driver who is supposedly too big and too tall he keeps putting in the excellent performances on race day. Jenson also drove well too.

Shame about Kimi making an extra emergency stop under the safety car. Fernando was very anonymous today, not bad, but not amazing. Kind of sums up Ferrari at the moment really.

Red Bull mixed bag - good pace at the end from the wooly haired honey badger, but poor reliability on the other car. Again. Also, on full to half tanks, the Mercs were a second a lap faster than Daniel..............and that's on a circuit just 2 miles long. Still lots of work to do at Milton Keynes.

Having said that, strange to have engine failures at Monaco from Bottas, Sebastian and Vergne. I would of thought Monte Carlo isn't that hard on engines in as much there are no mega long straights to put massive strain on the engines, but there you go. Damon Hill also had a Renault engine grenade itself at Monaco, 1996 I think...........

Disappointment of the weekend: Williams. No pace, poor reliability, but Monaco is a unique circuit so it's likely just to be a one off dip. Possibly..........

I've said my driver of the day was Hulky, but Bianchi comes very, very close. What a great result for Marussia! Points! Precious points! It's taken five seasons, but at last, last, points, precious points!

How much will that potentially benefit Marussia? I think at least UK £20 Million if they can stay ahead of Caterham. Wow, Bianchi's 1.75 hours of work could benefit them by as much 20 million quid!!!!!!! That's value for money!

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They are also ahead of Sauber who have yet to score a point.

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How many miles were on those engines? With only five for the season, it may be precisely because this track is easy on the engines that they were using old ones near the end of their life.

That's speculation though - does anyone know for sure?

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Yes it was silly of Massa to lapse into unconsciousness when that spring hit him in the head as well.

Honestly the number of comments of this type amazes me - ask even a moped rider what it feels like when a bee hits you? Let alone something gets through the vents and into your eye.

It happens and it ruins your spatial vision if you have to keep clearing one eye.

Fine at Bahrain but Monaco? Think now...

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The mercs were not that much faster than DR, after the last SC it just looked like he was coasting to preserve tyres, maybe hoping for another SC while the mercs destroyed their tyres squabbling, before giving it a go at the end if no SC, which is what did eventuate (he made up a differential of almost 15 seconds in about 15 laps once he put his foot down). But this track is unique so in all likelihood the mercs are still going to be too far ahead for a while longer.

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Driver of the day is Jules Bianchi. You can't take that away from the guy.

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Couldn't agree more, one of the best performances of the season so far.

Are Ferrari preparing a draft contract for him in the not too distant future???

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They might be steady on that. Remember back just two years and Perez was the 'future WDC at Ferrari' just waiting to take his anointed seat in the scarlet throne...except it all went a bit cactus fruit shaped...

But yes, I think given Ferrari prefer experienced hands when Bianchi is in his late 20s/early 30s he'll be in a Ferrari - having left a very happy (and substantially richer) marussia behind...

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Don't Ferrari fund Bianchi directly? If so that was the most cost efficient performance ever - £20 million for no outlay? Bet the fund managers drink twice as much as the engineers tonight!

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I'd forgot Ferrari "sponsor" Bianchi!

Yes, you're right, it was potentially - potentially - a very cost efficient way of generating 20 million quid!

Still, irrespective of his fiscal backers, superb performance from the Bianchi lad.

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"Victory, and entirely on merit."

Seriously?

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Absolutely. He won fair and square

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Hamilton didn't get past Rosberg at the start, and also, even though there was overtaking done at Monaco, there wasn't any by Hamilton !

It's always the fault of someone else when Hamilton doesn't do well, ha !

Nico won it fair and square.

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Yes

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Yes.

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yes, stop with all the conspiracy already! Nico won on merit, fare and square!

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Of course it's not Rosberg's fault he was faster at that point, but that doesn't change the fact that he got rewarded by making a mistake (at best, giving him a generous helping of doubt).

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@Anon, @AndrewM, @Justafan- not Rosberg's fault if other drivers weren't faster than him on the first timed lap!

Knowing its Monaco, antyhing can happen

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Amen.

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It's nothing to do with conspiracies, whether you think Nico did it deliberately or not he didn't deserve pole yesterday, he made a mistake and benefitted from it and it won him the race today.

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If he hadn't have brought out the yellow in Q3 then it would be 'on merit'.

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Yes.

I know yesterday's qualifying was a bit, er, bizarre, but don't forget Rosberg Junior had to drive 78 laps error free without headbutting a barrier and having Lewis studying his rear axle. He delivered a mature classy performance - I'll give credit where it's due.

Sometimes Lewis wins, sometimes Rosberg Junior..........way it goes this season unless Red Bull and Ferrari can find a whole nine tenths........fingers crossed, but that's wishful thinking on my behalf (as well as Random 79's too, I bet Random was screaming himself hoarse "come on honey badger get the Ham man!")

I actually thought the wooly haired Dan would get Lewis on the entry to Racasse, but still, better to finish 3rd than stuff it in the barrier.

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Rosberg was found innocent by the qualifying stewards, and he won at Monaco because Hamilton's driving wasn't good enough to overtake him.

To my mind that's all there is to it.

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If you're on pole at Monaco you pretty much have the race won, barring something shaking up the order like in 2008; the pole sitter has won the race every year bar that one since 2003. True, Nico didn't make a mistake or throw it into the barriers, but that's the least I'd expect. He won this race yesterday because of his "mistake".

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PS Actually, I've just decided to have a joint driver/s of the day: Hulk and Bianchi. I think to drive that Marussia to 9th place - on merit - was a superlative performance.

A star of the future...........possibly with Ferrari? Watch this space!

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Kimi, has to be one of the most unluckiest drivers on the planet.

What does he need to do to have a clean weekend and clean race.(He wasn't a 100% fit when the race started)

Here's how his race panned out;

1)Great start off the line where he made 2 places;

2)He really was keeping Mercedes pair honest until his tyres started to go off;

3)After the safety car, Chilton clipped him from behind, so there goes the podium

4)Marussia (KOB) nearly lost brakes in front of him;

5)Sauber (GUT) spun in front of him

6)Makes a mistake overtaking magnussen, and drops a point scoring finish.

Ya sure people can blame him for dropping points with WCC in mind....but even the most die hard Alonso fan should admit that Kimi had Alonso beaten today, but sadly it turned out the other way around, with no fault of Kimi.

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@ Harshad

Kimi had beaten Alonso? When?

Alonso simply clocked a lap which was faster than kimi by 0.8 tenths on saturday.

Alonso have out-qualified kimi 4-2, Outraced kimi 6-0. Scored 61 points to the meager 17 scored by kimi. Alonso is plainly faster and miles better than kimi. Even in monaco kimi simply had better start nothing else and that's hardly 1 or 2 good race starts in half a dozen races already

Time for you to think and post

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Luis Pastilla

Ah! Today we lament. Luck was against the valiant.

Equally we celebrate that he was robbed of a better finish than Alonso only buck ill luck, and we know ill luck will not last forever; and that he showed Alonso how to make places on the start at Monaco.

Soon, very soon, the best driver in Ferrari will be beating the "best driver in the universe".

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Kimi is my fav driver, but no, it's very clear that isn't going to happen

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"Soon, very soon, the best driver in Ferrari will be beating the “best driver in the universe”."

People has been saying something like this for half a year now. In six races its 6-0, 44 points advantage and Saturday Alonso was 8 tenths faster than Kimi over the shortest track of the year. At this rate at the end of the year the difference will be at Alonso/Massa level.

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@ Mocho_Pikuain

In fairness Massa did much better in the first six races than kimi if we compare 2013 with 2014 season.

Whenever kimi have 1 good session nearly in 6 or 7 races. All the kimi fanboys will start with bandwagons like kimi is faster than alonso

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You are right, RAI performed better than ALO today, but the same can be said about VET and RIC . There are always races where mechanical failures or others factors made that a good performance of a driver get 0 points. Today RAI had the tough day, but Im pretty sure that ALO will also have at least one or two races in which he will perfom better than RAI but will end behind him because external factors (mechanical failure, etc.) so at the end of the season all this will even out.

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If only you and many Alonso fans acknowledged "mechanical faliures" and "other factors" in the form of kimi's retirements and engine penalties in '05, an illegal mass damper in '06 and countless (fortunate)circumstantial situations at the misfortune of others in '12

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The "die hard" you talk about will understand "Kimi had Alonso beaten" just as much as the words "ILLEGAL mass damper"

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>“ILLEGAL mass damper”

Right. Help me out here.

Sometime in mid/late '05, a team goes to the FIA and says, "we've got this great idea, it's called a mass damper, we copied it off an old 2CV, we want to race it, 'kay?" - and the nice man from the FIA, he say, "Yes!" So the team stick it on the car for the last three races of '05.

Sometime part way through '06, the FIA say, "er, no, we changed our mind, you've got to take it off", and the team bleats a bit and...takes it off.

So this is illegal how?

The key point is, that unlike some teams {cough}, Renault fronted up the mass damper to Charlie -before- it was raced. The FIA knew it was there all along. No secrets, nothing underhand. The only reason it was declared illegal was because the FIA -changed their mind-. What exactly are your grounds for complaint?

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What Kimi has to do? Stop driving like an amateur would certainly help his cause.

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You mean Kimi drove like an amatuer? Well I suppose you watched some different race to ours then! We are talking about chilton incident. That was the moment where a sure podium was taken away from him with no fault of his own.

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Did You see his actions at Loews? Goes my Grandma would have done it better.

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kenneth chapman

hahaha i do agree with that.

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I completely disagree.

Kimi:

Good luck.:

The poor RIC's start blocking to Fernando.

Vettel's abandon.

Fernando without Eléctric power at the beginning, including the start.

Not having crashed after his mistake at the end, in fact, his last laps were terrifying, without any control.

Bad luck:

Punture.

Fernando:

Bad luck:

The start, he was blocked by RIC and his Eléctric unit didn't work.

Good luck:

Vettel's and Kimi's problems.

Worthy of merit:

He managed to be close to RIC until he lost his tyres at the end.

He made no mistakes, and I think that only two moré drivers can say the same. Ricciardo isn't one of that two, neither Hamilton...

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I felt really sorry for Kimi. I thought he would finish in podium unfortunately bad luck took that away from him.

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Both Alonso and Kimi had great starts. But Kimi was lucky that alonso was blocked by both red bulls at the start and that is the sole reason why kimi was ahead of alonso in the first place.

Kimi was unlucky but to say that he had the measure of alonso in a weekend where he was 0.7 seconds of alonso in qualifying is laughable really!

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So how many points did Alonso score in qualifying?

Where was he relative to Kimi before the chilton incident?

How much further ground did he lose to RIC in the later stages?

Remember, without Chilton's incident Kimi would have been ahead of RIC.

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@Sid

I already mentioned that in point 6 in my original post.

But none of that would have happened if it wasn't for that chilton incident.

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Without Kimi's ambitious move on Kevin Mag he would not have crashed and could have at least finished in 6th which is not too bad instead of finishing outside the points.

That was his own mistake which clearly Alonso did not do.

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Apparently he picked up a puncture because Max Chilton drove into the back of him - but I stand to be corrected.

Netherless, you are right: a podium for the Vanilla Choc Ice specialist was ripe for the taking, but perhaps, just perhaps, Kimi and Ferrari have unlocked extra performance from the Ferrari. If that's the case, then at least Maranello can challenge for consistent podiums, but as Monaco is a unique circuit on set-up it's difficult so say.

When things are working for you, everything goes right..............and when things are against you, everything goes wrong........

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for 6): Kev forced Kimi onto the kerb, and the ferrari lost traction completely so Kimi could not turn it. Yes you may say it was a mistake, but very unlucky.

btw I don't think the write up above is by James, as it isn't very fair in describing the start. Kimi's start here was 100% [as described by Brundle]. ALO had his usual good start, Kimi was just much better.

RAI robbed of a podium today by a puncture.

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kenneth chapman