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Hamilton body language leaves little room for doubt as Rosberg keeps his pole
Posted By: James Allen  |  24 May 2014   |  5:02 pm GMT  |  458 comments

Lewis Hamilton’s body language after qualifying left little room for doubt that he suspects team mate Nico Rosberg may have deliberately messed up his final lap to stop Hamilton from taking pole.

However, the FIA Stewards disagreed. After reviewing the evidence they decided that there was no case to answer and no further action. Thus, Rosberg keeps his pole position.

Hamilton said that he was over 2/10ths of a second up on the German, when the incident happened at Mirabeau corner. Speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live Hamilton compared the situation to the feud between Senna and Prost in the late 1980s and said: “I like the way Senna dealt with it. I think I’ll take a leaf out of Senna’s book.”

Asked by this website if he felt that this would change the dynamic between him and Rosberg from now on he replied, “potentially”.

Hamilton clearly felt there was something fishy about the way that Rosberg, over two tenths down on Hamilton at that point in the lap, went straight on at Mirabeau and then reversed onto the track, bringing out yellow flags. As one of the cars behind Rosberg on circuit, he was vulnerable to this happening and his lap was blown.

“I’m going to turn this to my advantage,” he pledged, speaking in the media pen after the session. Raising doubts about Rosberg’s integrity here, is certainly one way to use mind games to turn things to his advantage.

This certainly seems to be the tactic, whatever may be decided by the FIA Stewards. The precedent remains so strong in the mind from a previous incident of this kind.

Back in 2006, Michael Schumacher’s crash into the barriers at Rascasse aroused immediate suspicion – Fernando Alonso and Mark Webber were both on target to beat his pole time at that point. And the FIA stewards duly found that he had done it on purpose and demoted him to the back of the grid. This episode was dubbed ‘Crashgate’, however Schumacher never gave any insight into that episode nor admitted any deliberate action.

Ironically, the most vociferous critic of Schumacher that day was Rosberg’s father Keke, who was very outspoken and negative about the seven times champion in comments that shocked Schumacher and Ferrari.

This one is more finely balanced, with some pundits like Damon Hill certain that Rosberg did not do it deliberately, while others are suspicious. There is no prevailing view on this one in the F1 paddock.

The matter went before the FIA stewards, who have better tools and equipment to measure and compare to previous laps and to analyse than back in 2006 and certainly better than any outsider or media pundit. Derek Warwick is the FIA driver steward this weekend and he is both very experienced in that role and a man of integrity.

Rosberg denied that he did it on purpose and told the media that the telemetry will bear him out. “I did the same things as the lap before,” he said.

He went on, “I had a good banker lap and I was pushing it a bit more.

“I just locked up, the outside front, I think it was, or the inside, I’m not sure, and that put me off line,” said Rosberg. “I was still trying to make it but in the last moment I had to turn out because I was going to hit the tyre wall. It was close but I managed to go into the escape road.”

The stewards have accepted the arguments and ruled the matter closed but the debate in the paddock and within the Mercedes camp are likely to go on.


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Rosberg deserves a big penalty, whether he gets it,

is up go how the Monaco boy is given favour by the scrutineers. Hope Warwick goes in favour of Lewis.


No, Rosberg didn't deserve a big penalty and Hamilton didn't win despite all the whining. And now we know that Hamilton went back to his old tricks and cheated (again) in Spain breaking the agreement with his team and teammate. Classless Hamilton at his best


In Bahrain Rosberg used a higher engine setting first , quicker tyres to try and overtake Lewis & did not succeed.

Lewis used the same hifger setting in Spain aa a direct result of Rosberg using it in Bahrain.

Get over it. Lewis is a World Champion for a reason. He's fast, skillful & a racer. You negativity is equal to your venom against a great driver.


Oops, what do they say? Look before you leap.

Apparently, the classless Rosberg pressed the 'forbidden' power boost setting on the engine in Bahrain. Still couldn't beat Hamilton, even though Hamilton had the harder tyres. I guess Hamilton thought, what the heck, if Rosberg can press the button then so can I. What do you reckon?


OK Fernando we believe you just keep your focus on you're Ferrari please ...


Here here man, sick of hearing LH complaining over the radio, he is so talanted that you just want him to cut that crap out. The same goes for Vettel all be it to a lesser extent. Shame that there is no article in this site dedicated to LH breaking the agreement and what would have happened if he didn't .


yep.. lewis has lost a lot of support this weekend. I think Mercedes will also be rethinking their opinion of him.. they give the guy THE BEST car and he complains about it.

Given the same car Alonzo and Riccardo would mop the floor with both of them.


If Rosberg is found innocent Lewis Hamilton will look like a thug threatening Senna-like actions!


Hi there!!! What's happened guys. LH double WC. Going on to become triple WC. Ranks ladies and ladies!!!!! Regards flash the Kash . Com IT solution/fry up nico's pride . Com IRISH

Leslie D'Amico

Doesn't really matter if he did it on purpose or not. It happened, it's over and you move on. Both Hamilton and Ricciardo are showing maturity and a desire to win. Tomorrow is another day. 2nd place is just 1st loser. They both know that and I'm more impressed with the way they responded. I've always been an Alonzo fan and find myself rooting for Hamilton and Ricciardo also now.


I will give Rosberg the benefit of the doubt, and state that I believe he did just out-brake himself. However, I would be interested to know exactly what happened afterwards. Did he reverse back onto the track whilst the other cars were still running? If so, then in my opinion that is a no-no. If the stewards are going to punish him for anything, it will be for this, and this alone.


I dont think benefit of the doubt is necessary here. We didn't hear his race engineer come over the radio telling him "Hey Nico, Lewis is 0.2 up in the first sector - lock it up and go straight on at the next corner with a run off area." or even a more oblique message "Switch to plan B".


Well Mr. Hamilton, beat him on Sunday and all this doesn't matter...


Everybody is going to talk about HAM vs ROS, so I am going to talk about ALO vs RAI (it is my favourite topic). Alonso was 0.7 sec faster than Kimi with the same car, in the gratest track, were the driver makes the most differences. That was something really special, it was worth of Ayrton Senna.


"That's the last time I'm buying you a pint...."

Is 2014 Monaco qualifying a pivotal moment (literally) in terms of when the "entente cordiale" was irreparably damaged at Merc F1?

Whether or not it has an impact (no pun intended) on tomorrow's race is not so much the issue, but over the long term.

For what it is worth, having watched it live via my first internet stream (VIPBOX), the TV producer was actually onboard Rosberg Jumior's car when he had his "moment" and it looked like a genuine error..........I must stress looked like.

Whatever decision the stewards take, I'll respect them for that decision as they have access to all the data and analysis, and with Derek "Del Boy" Warwick stewarding this weekend he'll make a wise informed decision.

Bizarre, just bizarre..........


PS Just heard Rosberg Junior has been cleared of any wrongdoing, so the qualifying result of the front row stands.

Onwards to the race! Keep it clean lads......


These dudes will not be buddies any longer after this. End of a friendship going back to childhood. No trust is possible after this. German drivers seem quick to resort to cheating when the going gets tough: Schumacher was an inveterate cheat, Vettel was a fraud who is being shown up for what he is this season, and now Nico. Must say, I never expected this from Nico.


Difficult to call but at the time and at real speed it did look as though Rosberg did want to attempt to turn before making an emergency decision to turn into the escape lane. Hamilton's attitude in front of the cameras says as much about their existing relationship as the event itself. Hope the stewards leave alone as it is the rivalry that entertains at the moment with Mercedes so dominant


I didn't think Rosberg would do such a thing! Very glad that this was the outcome.


His racing line was very suspicious looking at his pole lap vs that lap. He was not even close to the right wall where the optimum line is to the next corner. Odd steering movement and reversing back..

Valentino from montreal

Not seen qualifying but sure it was driver error like Schumacher back in 2006 ....


Hey Val, How are you? I know you don't like the Mercedes AMG team very much. I guess this will be a bit of a long season for you, what with their slightly dominant car an' all 😉


He definitely done it deliberately as soon as he realised he wasn't beaten his previous lap time he decided to bring out the yellow flags. 6 races into the season and rosberg has to cheat to beat Hamilton tells you everything you need to know about him.


I love the way Lewis Hamilton is the only person who compares Lewis Hamilton to Senna.


Well you obviously listen very selectively. Some reputable F1 commentators called him "a man who drives like the reincarnation of Senna."

Who else equals a double world champion in his ROOKIE year.

Anyway I dont think HAM has got anything to proof. He has beaten every teammate before.

And some much better drivers than ROS.

No wonder he has won every race before this.




Hmm, I don't think he is the only one. The press has been making hay this season with the Senna-Prost comparisons. You might not agree with that, but it's false to say that no one else is making the comparison.


I hate the idea of the leading driver in Q3 setting the fastest time and then causing the yellow to come out with so little time remaining, there pretty fast cars were behind him fighting for the top spot and Rosberg has an issue brining out the yellow. To me whether it was deliberate of not, the FIA needs to alter the rules from today forward to add time to the Q3 to give the other that were on their flying laps a fair chance. No one can ever really prove if Nico did it on purpose, but as I said that shouldn't matter. The top qualifying positions should always be earned,


Before going crazy let's wait for the stewards investigation. Some drama is good for F1.


Lewis is not doing himself any favors with the world crowd behaving like a chop. Fiece passion is one thing, but he's acting like a spolied brat.

If Nico gets away well ready yourself for lots of moaning and "man" over team radio.


That is appalling that he kept his pole position. It looked far far less convincing than Schumi's incident and to me thats just wrong. Not a Hamiltons fan at all but even less mr. fridays fan. On another note I think the rules for qualifying should be amended because Masa's incident shouldnt have to have impact on his position, he didnt have a mechanical failure or similar but him going out by mistake of another driver. I think in an instance like this he should have kept his current best time and progres to Q3.

Niagara Falls

I honestly believe Rosberg was just going for it - trying to secure pole from Hamilton. I also think Hamilton's reaction is very telling. He's not only becoming a master at mind games but he's become quite a poser, too. Do I think Hamilton is hungrier than Rosberg? No. But then it's fair to say Rosberg is no less hungry than every other driver on the grid. They wouldn't be there if they weren't. Mind games indeed. I can't imagine any better scenario than to have a closely fought battle for the championship than what is shaping up between Hamilton and Rosberg.


I don't think sliding off the track was intentional, but I do think that immediately reversing back up the escape road was cynical. There was no need to rejoin the track quickly as the lap was blown and the session was effectively over.

James, I'm surprised none of the media (that I've seen) have really focused on this as I think it's the key point, not the fact that he left the track in the first place. What are your thoughts?


If it was deliberate it was certainly better acting from Nico than Schumacher (who would have won a razzie for his wooden denials). It was also pretty dangerous - what if he'd actually gone into the barrier and ended up with a cracked chassis or something? Seems like a hell of a gamble - though I guess for everyone who said Nico lacks the killer instinct if it was deliberate that was first rate icy decision making in action...

Though if Rosberg had wanted to be cruel he could have said, 'well I'm sure Lewis' tough working class upbringing will have prepared him for disappointment better than spoilt little rich kids like me...'

But yay! Drama!


Martin Brundle put it perfectly " the boy doesn't have it in him " and referenced to the fact that Nico is missing the killer instinct.


Hamilton you taunt Rosberg all week, you take digs at him for months, you bring his family into this and you have the cheek to be upset? face it Nico's been faster than you this weekend and you even lied about that last lap being 0.2s up when in reality you was actually slightly down, get over it and watch out for Ricciardo into the first bend, and as for Vettel? dodgy KERS this time yeah? how many quali session is that now with all sort of problems? come on RBR and Renault sort it out then we can see who's actually faster.


We all know how much you dislike Lewis tealeaf, but you really shouldnt just make things up. There is so much wrong with your post its difficult to know where to start, Nico faster than Lewis all weekend? You mean except for P1, P2, P3, and Q2? Who told you that Lewis lied about being 2 tenths up??! You must have dreamed it mate, and we already know who the fastest RB driver is, I know it must hurt but Daniel is quicker, just accept it.


Come on now. Now Hamilton comparing himself with Senna!!! Well Mercedes is lucky that RB or Ferrari aren't very fast this year. Otherwise, Hamilton would've cost them a championship like the way he did at McLaren in 2007.


Given that Nico had no way to make it back to the start point, and with everyone else on hot laps, the sportsmanlike thing to do would have been to shut it down and stay out of the way.

Whether it was deliberate or not, and I think the run off track most likely was not, it wasn't the actions of someone who was giving his chief competitor a fair chance.

Tomorrow's race is going to be interesting. Monaco is exceedingly difficult to overtake on track, so it will likely be another tactical battle, safety cars permitting.

And the rivalry ramps up another notch. Despite the advantage between Mercedes and the rest, this has all the ingredients for a classic season. Repeat of the amazing tussle at this track between Mansell and Senna, anyone?


I meant make it to the start point for another hot lap.


The only reason everyone will not admit this as Rosberg cheating is because Lewis makes it difficult to fight his corner sometimes but let's be honest, this was a deliberate 'error' that only Nico can admit - No tools or tech can justify the intentions of the human mind. By the way Lewis needs a media trainer to calm him down after races you can't go around making enemies. Sometimes I just want him to shut up and drive and not even give interviews. However Nico needs to be careful what he is asking for. If he wants war he should be prepared to take whatever Hamilton throws at him in the future. In any case all this makes for an exciting season ahead. Bring it on!!!


Interesting race ahead


James were you reacting somewhat to Lewis's body language because you seemed to draw out the suspicion from Lewis in the post quali questions ? How did you see it James .It looked a totally innocuous incident to me.

It was the The most sulkiest attitude from Lewis I have seen. Its like hes in fantasy land trying to relive the legend of Senna & Prost.!!. It was bizarre!


Hi James,

What about reversing back into a live track, knowing fully well that his own lap was blown? Did the stewards say anything about that?

Even if the lock up and going into the escape route was not deliberate (and I still think it was), the reversing clearly was!


Hamilton has no class. The strop that he throw post quali was a joke. Nico not rising to Lewis implied accusations highlighted Lewis lack of sportmanship.


Well! I have to say, there's no doubt in my mind that Nico could have made that corner, easily. He was on line, and turning in.... The key was which tires he locked-up. He locked the fronts, and not in an extreme, billowing smoke, fashion. Meaning he could have turned in.... You can turn in with locked fronts. Race drivers do it all the time. Rosberg stomped the brake pedal on turn in, and bailed out--it's right there for all to see.

It's when you lock the rears that force you to steer forward, until you ease off the brake pedal and your back rubber spins driving the autocar once again. Check it out!

Nico aborted that lap on turn in, he was in no trouble at all.... The race stewards copped out, big time! We, F1 fans, were robbed of a thrilling final qualifying. I'm saddened and very disappointed with Nico Rosberg....


You cannot steer with locked fronts.


Sorry, but you most certainly can.... Rosberg's front wheel (the right front) was locked a minute fraction of a second. Not enough to affect turn in.... Fronts locking don't come close to affecting a car's handling as the rear rubber which takes away a car's drive momentarily. I suggest you watch motor racing, particularly, open-wheel cars more closely.

My Dad's Harder Than Yours

Watch the comparison of Nico's two laps on the Beeb he was sawing back and forth on the steering wheel long before the wheel locked up, it's plain for all to see, he was trying to fluff the corner and anyone who thinks otherwise is not looking at it objectively, including the stewards. Reversing back out onto the track was just the icing on the cake.

Nico needed to stop Hamilton this week no matter what and that's exactly what he did, if he hadn't qualified first he knew damn well he wouldn't get to overhaul Lewis on Sunday. James talks about the body language on display however I thought Nico's was far more telling after he got out of the car, after the obligatory celebratory jumping around he was hunched, defensive and closed during the press circle interviews, clearly betraying the guilt he felt.

Anyone who's surprised by Lewis's demeanor needs to ask how would Nando or Seb have reacted if they were in his shoes, my guess exactly the same. F1 is the most ruthless ofindividual sports so I am not surprised at all by the emotions displayed. However I fully expect normal service to be resumed at the next race and Lewis to beat Nico on Saturday and Sunday when the sport returns to a proper race track.

P.s I'm a Kim fan


I agree totally! Nico knew it was over, in his head, if Lewis beat him a fifth straight time. I think Rosberg panicked on the way down from Casino and aborted his lap to create yellow flags. I watched that lap, maybe, twenty times and every time I've seen it I'm more convinced he cheated. Monaco's my favorite final qualifying session of the season and Nico ruined the whole weekend for me! After Lewis, Rosberg was one of top drivers. Now I'm done with him.

As for as the race stewards exoneration of Nico, I think they seriously wanted to dodge the controversy. Firstly, it's only eight years ago since Schumacher's indiscretion during Monaco qualifying. not to mention all the criticism of the new Formula--the lack of engine noise, the cost, pay drivers and on and on etc.... Race officials (FIA) in my opinion simply feared more outcry. I hope Hamilton shows everyone a clean pair of heels in Montreal.


Mistake or not. Probably not best to reverse back out onto the circuit after the mistake so close to the end of the session. Plus celebrate the pole like it was your best effort of the year. Doesn't put Rosberg in a good light.


Turn one should be worth watching tomorrow, if Lewis is serious about having learned from Senna's example.

Formula 1, melodrama is your middle name


Why go back onto the track though? The reverse moves brings out the yellow flags. To me, that's the suspect part.


Nicos racing line on his pole lap,is completely different to the lap he made the "mistake" on.at the same point on the track,he was next to the barrier on his pole lap.on the other lap,he was in the middle of the track.ive seen the pictures,they are very clear.


"I like the way Senna dealt with it. I think I’ll take a leaf out of Senna’s book"

Does this mean he's going to throw one up the inside and take them both out?

Use your brains Lewis and if you really feel you have a point to prove then do it by being the first one to the chequered flag.

Having said that I hope my interpretation of what he said is completely wrong, but if not then I'm betting on Ricciardo for the win which I would obviously love to see, but not like that.


2011 Lewis again.


What is your opinion James?


The jury have spoken.

Now we can all get some sleep.


That was hilarious, talk about petulant, Lewis looked like he needed to suck on his thumb at the post qualifying conference. Get used to the salty taste of your tears Lewis, with the World Cup coming up in a year that isn't 1966!

Alonso spanked Kimi as per usual, 7/10ths of a second difference. If Alonso isn't a good qualifier, what does that make Kimi? Ouch.


Hamilton's comments just keep getting weirder. From last year's reflective I may never be champion again/ what makes greatness column on BBC to saying he had a tough upbringing, to his taking a page out of Senna's book.


If HAM would lose because he was slower, he would be disappointed, but would still congratulate ROS. This is bull....t. ROS played that very well...


Both the on-board footage and his response to the media to me personally make it clear he did this on purpose. Watch his strange wheel input right before the incident. And watch him being totally insecure when responding to the media. He feels guilty. If this was an accident, he would have reacted differently, more secure, knowing he didn't do anything wrong.

Anyways, just my personal observation. Disclaimer, I'm from Germany, and I don't like Hamilton.


still that does not answer the question why did he reverse into the circuit where he knew there is still cars attempting to finish their quali laps...


I think the first corner will be interesting. If Hamilton follows through with his pledge to take a leaf out of Sennas book he should still be leading the WDC at the end of the race tomorrow and maybe someone other than a Merc driver can take the win.No doubt in my mind that Rosberg new what he was doing would scupper Hamilton's lap. Bit sad that Rosberg has to stoop to these sort of tactics to secure pole. Still he has no shame, he was celebrating like he had won pole fair and square - bit like his celebrating his lead in the WDC as if he was leading on merit. What a tosser.


Thanks to the stewards for coming to a conclusion earlier this time than normal so we can look forward to the race.

But I think what will remove any shadow of doubt on whether the stewards got the ruling right or whether they were off the mark is >>> karma

Yes if Rosberg wins from pole tomorrow then the fans will know everything that happened in qualifying was above board.


The run down to the first bend is not be missed considering Rosberg has been having sluggish starts.

German Samurai

Hamilton is weak mentally and fragile emotionally, and Rosberg has him at breaking point.

Rosberg hasn't even had to give Hamilton the needle. He's done it through consistent pressure on the race track.

Hamilton will never have a championship handed to him on a platter like it is this season. Many rate him as the best driver on the grid yet he finds Rosberg typically matching him for pace.

Pathetic of Hamilton to insinuate that Rosberg is cheating.

This is all of Hamilton's own doing. He chose to be the last guy on track. Hamilton failed to bank a quicker lap than Rosberg at the beginning of Q3.

Given how close the gap between the two had been throughout qualifying, you have to say that Hamilton's prima donna appearance for P1 on Thursday where he hadn't even turned up as practice got underway while Rosberg was in the car ready to go might have been the 0.053 second difference between the two.

Mercedes vindicated in re-signing the more mature, emotionally stable driver who is barely slower than Hamilton in terms of raw pace.


I hate to be a moaner, but that list of the 'many drivers' is taking an awful lot of time to compile. If you are too busy just say so. But, the way you wrote your comment, I assumed there were literally dozens of drivers you could name that would have won 4 out of the first 5 races this season.


Funny, I never liked Alonso as a man, but I've learned to respect him a lot as a driver, because he's just fantastic

Up until the end of last season, I always liked Hamilton, was a big fan, even in the poor seasons.

But many poor comments and reactions over the years made me step away further and futher from him.

And now get myself more and more thinking I'm not even sure I'll ever come to respect Hamilton the same way as I respect do Alonso

Ain't life a strange beautiful song?


I give Hamilton a free pass because he wouldn't have seen the incident from Rosberg's perspective.

But anyone, after viewing Rosberg squirming all over the place under braking and having been extremely ragged the two corners previously, claiming he did all of that "on purpose" is frankly deluding themselves.

It was a mistake, suck it up, deal with it, move on and stop living in fantasy land.


It was only a matter of time. The charm offensive that we've seen Hamilton on this year had to come to an end sooner or later. It was obvious that we weren't seeing the real Lewis Hamilton. Now we have a return to the sullen, sulky behaviour of the last few seasons that we see when things don't go his way. I'm not saying that Rosberg did or didn't do anything wrong. I'm saying that Hamilton should "suck it up" (to use his words), grow a pair, accept that the world doesn't revolve around him, get his head down and get on with it. I for one hope he doesn't win tomorrow.


Nico has some nerve stepping out of his car and celebrating that pole.


Hope Lewis gets a better start...


Lauda will be up till 2 in the morning alming Lewis down with wise words.

Then, driving home from his Pole party, Nico will accidentally crash into Lewis's Ltd Edition mercedes benz and write it off.


oops, Calming, that should be


I'm surprised not more was made of Rosberg reversing back up the escape road. Did this prolong the yellow flag period James or was this irrelevant?


I agree with the outcome, and I think it was handled very well overall. A stewards inquiry was quite correct, as there was precedence for this happening a la Crashgate. However my very un-technical observation was that Rosberg was rather out of shape for a large portion of the straight before the corner itself, and you can see him working the wheel trying to correct it before bailing out to avoid the wall. Unlike Schumi, who blatantly made no effort to turn his steering wheel enough in 06. I'm sure there was more evidence than that that the stewards had access to obviously, but I don't find suspicion with the outcome.

I think Hamilton fuelled the fire (and Twitter) by having a bit moody and overly suspicious about it, and actually I think he hasn't come out of it any better than Rosberg. Proof that despite his talk of mature driving, when he feels hard done by his inner 10 year old still pops up to have a sulk about everything.


One bit of good news though, Vettel was behind Ricciardo.

Every cloud, eh 🙂

Gregg Matusiak

It's as though Hamilton and Alonso are in a competition this season to see who can act like the biggest spoiled brat/entitled cry baby. Give it a rest already.


So, why did Rosberg reverse ?

He had obviously blown that lap and session, the question is not "did he do it deliberately" ... but "why was he not punished for reversing"

Arguing over telemetry traces is partly a Red Herring, he deliberately stopped Quali to his own advantage with an act of gross stupidity, sadly deserving a penalty.

Because of this, I now really hope Lewis does him off the line, or in the race. The WDC he seems to have sown up.


Rosberg's sector 1 time in his best lap was 19.826

Hamilton's sector 1 time in the lap he aborted was 19.906

So where are those 2 tenths he says he was up?


What on earth are all the journalists and media talking about! This is complete nonsense that Rosberg would deliberately wreck his own lap on which he could have beaten Lewis by more than the first run.

You could see from the onboard camera that the car was unstable under braking.

Hamilton talking this up is pathetic and perhaps shows in the mind department that he's lacking something.

They both did there first runs and Rosberg was quicker so Lewis has nothing to bleat about apart from another year in F1 without a pole position at Monaco that he likes everyone to think he is mega at.

The media are milking this for all it's worth. Pathetic..


It was deliberate, of that I am convinced.

There was nothing to cause Rosberg to lock up and he was sawing away at the wheel for no reason, as if trying to manufacture a problem.

He had no reason to reverse back onto the track either.

Rosberg knew if he did not stop Lewis, he would lose pole.

So it was worth the risk of stewards penalty.

It will be very interesting to see if Lewis can channel his obvious and understandable anger into a positive outcome tomorrow!


Hey James, looks like a interesting race tomorrow. :>) The pic of the merc on the top of the home page looks like the Merc car has bumper guards on the front wing. The boys may need them tomorrow. Let the mayhem begin.


I guess Nico learned a few tricks from Schumacher after all.


Lewis needs to be smart here, hes still on the front row with a great chance of winning the race, trying some sort of banzai lunge, were either rosberg backs out or they collide, if taking 2nd is the best on offer take it, its a good haul of points, rosberg was going to get pole and win a race sooner rather than later, suck it up and move on..


Sad for Lewis... come on, building a brick wall of judgement despite apology and even before stewards (and Mercedes all the more) going over the data with a fine-tooth comb?


Hamilton is a fantastic driver no doubt. But I'm glad things haven't gone his way this time round.

All weekend long there's been his inane " I should dominate Nico", "I grew up poor so my hunger is different", "Senna v Prost, hell yeah", "I wish someone would challenge me", "My earrings sparkle more than Nico's teeth" etc etc while Rosberg's simply gone about his business. Just shut up and drive already!

Hamilton may win the championship and he will deserve it. He'll also be the most insufferable WDC since the moaning Spanish samurai who sorely needs a hug.


Woow, the look at Nico's face!


Each will have their opinion on the Rosberg incident. As a fan of F1 (and Lewis) I found it disappointing that we were unable to see Lewis´ final quali lap. How many times have we seen him pull it out of the bag on the final lap of Quali?? I would have liked to see Lewis get the pole position today but he didn´t do quite enough on the first lap in Q3, he left himself vulnerable to a stoppage on track from ROS or any other of the top 10. There are question marks over ROS now but he got pole, lets move on. I think, though more difficult from P2, HAM has an opportunity to deliver a huge psychological blow to ROS tomorrow if he ca beat him again in the race. I am looking forward to the battle tomorrow.


I like lewis, and hope he takes the title, but his recent comments - not just these - are making him look a bit silly.


What a shame Nico managed to spoil quallly. His ability to get ahead of LH has to be questioned by Mercedes ? Surely they do not want this sort of thing?. Nico has always been seen as whiter than white but I for one think this was a deliberate tactic! LH has to clear his head and move on. Even if Nico does win I suspect he has done no favours with the fans. Once again the belly fish (no back bone) stewards do a great job.


Why should it be questioned. Nico took the pole here last year as well, and his Q3 this year was the fastest lap of the weekend.


In every sport we seem to have sportsmen and women who think they have some sort of supreme right over follow sports men and women.

There is no doubt that LH is a very good driver, but he is still very immature in his attitude to some aspect of his sport, Schumaker, Senna, though brilliant drivers wanted to win at all costs, this is a very bad concept as it takes the sport to another level, which detrats form the true competetive aspetc of drivers.

It's a sort of bullying and should be ruted out of the sport.

A gifted driver does not need to display this behaviour his driving speaks for it self, look at Daniel Rickado new to the Red Bull this year but out shining his more experienced team mate you don't see Vetel complaing about Ricado.

Not long ago we were all comparing Vetel to Schumaker. Taking caluclated risks and understanding how to get the most out of your car is what makes a good driver.

Ross Brawn commented in his the early years at Farrari when Schumaker was winning races that he (Schumakers) was getting more out of his car than he could have expected.

LH needs to grow up and stop winging and show how good he is by his driving and not by coplaning abouyt his teammate or other drivers who are blocking him or some other sort of excuse.


lol very interesting, indeed Nico is cerebral lol


hamilton doesn't like being beaten hence, his body language. whether rosberg did it on purpose or not hamilton would have still acted like that. it was rosberg who's actions resulted in hamilton missing out on pole so that should be the subject of debate, not hamilton's body language.


I dont believe that Nico did it on purpose and I think Lewis is being childish. If he tries to behave like Senna then he will end up being penalised, possibly disqualified and banned. Senna may be a hero to many but he was also the dirtiest and most reckless. His move on Prost in Suzuka '90 was the worst instance of blatant cheating in the history of F1 and it is the incident that prevents me supporting the view that he's the greatest. That he wasn't disqualified and banned is a failure of F1 and it's management. There is no justifiable excuse for what he did and he set a bad example for upcoming drivers. I have no problem with Lewis admiring Sennas skill or his many good works but to copy his flawed and dangerous approach is plain stupid and needs to be nipped in the bud.

The media are crying for blood and they would love to see carnage attributed to Lewis emulating Senna and they are trying to play it up, thats just pathetic. Lewis is not Senna nor does he need to be. I just want to see a good race and if any driver breaks the rules intentionally in a premeditated manner I want to see them punished and banned for a number of races.


Good point, Lewis is a bad looser when it comes to being outqualified by his team-mate. That's the right mentality with being a top racing driver, but a driver has to also accept he isn't always going to be on pole position, so it's horses for courses (no pun intended).



Anything to try and blame Lewis.


When any F1 driver is beaten by his team mate of course he isn't going to be happy but being beaten in this manner would boil the blood of any driver, just ask Webber !


I think this is good for F1. In the days of Senna, Prost, Mansell, and Piquet, we had personalities, serious rivalries, and real emotions. Thing sometimes got ugly, but that was part of what made it interesting. I feel bad for Lewis, and do think Nico reversing back onto track, ensuring the yellows stayed out out was a little fishy, but this whole thing including Lewis steaming over it and talking revenge is a lot more interesting than the drivers driving around like good little boys afraid of getting their wrists slapped, and saying only the politically, and socially correct things that the team PR guy told them to say, while hiding their true emotions.


Yes it does get robotic at times.


I agree completely. This is what we want! Real rivalry and real personal drama of a kind we haven't seen since Hamilton vs Alonso at McLaren. Webber and Vettel was mildly interesting for a bit, but Webber was never fast enough to make it a real fight.

I like Hamilton's reaction. He has said volumes with only body language and a few uncharacteristically well chosen words.

On the BBC's highlights of the quali they did a side by side comparison of Rosberg's pole lap and his aborted lap. It's on iplayer here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b044z1wn/formula-1-2014-the-monaco-grand-prix-qualifying-highlights?t=01h01m36s

Everything was exactly the same - Rosberg wasn't out of control, he was in exactly the same spot on the track - until he started turning left and right on the aborted lap, before the breaking zone, for no apparent reason. Coulthard said it looked somewhat damning. It looked like he was trying to unsettle the car to get out of control and lock a break.

Also, Hamilton's reaction was immediate - before he'd even seen the video of it he knew. We don't know what went on within the team. The Monaco track ramps up massively and has most grip at the last possible moment. So they all want to be last out. Maybe Rosberg was keen to get out before Hamilton, which seemed weird to Hamilton, until Rosberg went off. Hamilton said to the BBC "I should have known that was going to happen and done it the lap before."

If you think about it from Rosberg's point of view, if you throw everything in to beating Hamilton on the first run, when Hamilton is doing a banker, then get out in front of him on the track for the final run, you know that if you mess it up and crash you are still on pole. So there's no incentive to be careful - you might as well take risks, brush the barriers and try to do an unbelievable lap. I think that's what Rosberg started out doing - he understeered through Casino Square because he was carrying too much speed. The end of sector 1 is on that straight bit after Casino Square, and that's where his steering wheel told him he was a tenth down on his previous lap, because he had been over driving. Then he crashed.

So it could be that he was just taking too many risks because there was no consequence if he crashed, but even that would be very cynical. But I think it was more, judging by the random steering and his reversing on to the track unnecessarily. I think he saw he was a tenth down and decided to mess that corner up. Like Schumacher, I don't think he messed it up as much as he expected, and ended up in the escape road, so he had to reverse on to the track to make sure.


Must have watched the 2006 race and thought I'll give that a go. Typical German.


Go back to your Ukip vicarage meeting, you neanderthal.


And here Hamilton reveals the true depth of his character … not very!

Only happy when everything is going his way and the minute he's not on top, he's a whiney little brat desperate to lay blame. So much for 'we've been competitors since we were kids in karts and have always managed to keep it amicable' … obviously nothing more than grist for the PR mill. As a teammate, I think he would be the worst kind.


Nonsense and simple fill. The notion he lacks character as he's not so polite when out in the car on the limit shows your lack of knowledge about racing more than anything else.


Ha! That's funny.


Maybe it is, but it's also true. These guys are in crisis management situations, effectively on the limit at all times, so to expect them to treat it like dinner at the high commission is foolish in the extreme; it's always been like this, but nowadays we get more insight into the transmissions. I can assure you, having studied F1 in earlier days, communications were fruity.

It's strange when a Kimi is rude on the radio he's considered edgy and we all laugh and make T-Shirts about how funny he is being so rude and edgy, but when Hamilton does it, he lacks class or character. It's acutely strange and the only conclusions one can draw from it don't show a nice side to human nature.

They are flat out, they are on the edge, more so in Monaco than anywhere else, yet somehow you expect the T'd crossed, I's dotted and P's 'n' Q's minded.

Madness and shows an inherent bias.


Couldn't agree with you more. I thought the same thing in the previous race with the way he spoke to his engineer throughout the race. Really showed his character, or lack thereof.

I'm also getting sick of his obsession with Senna and thinking he is this generations version of him. It's really starting to wear thin.


He was fine in Australia when his car broke down..So I don't agree with you. He wanted to have his shot at the pole and feels, like some of us, that Nico did it on purpose. If you look at the on-board camera from Lewis's car, you can see Nico has already reversed back from where he initially stopped.

Anyway, Lewis will feel 100 times better at the end of the race after beating Nico on the track.


Hamilton hasn't actually whined or laid blame. He's in fact said very little (though the Stevenage comments earlier in the wk were probably not wise). Intentional or not Nico did cause the incident.

I think any driver in such a close fight would be unhappy.

Imagine how you would feel. Hamilton does not hide his feelings but sometimes that's not necessarily bad. I'd rather that than someone putting on a fake happy face, PR or not.


Or maybe they really are very good friends and this is all a big soap opera constructed by both of them. 😉

But in all seriousness, drama does draw back some viewers who may have tuned out at this stage of the competition due to the one team formula it has become.


His car imploded in the season opener. Where was the whining then? I'm really beginning to wonder about the objectiveness of this forum.


finally nico has grown a pair... what a great trick he did...just hope he gets to the first bend first..if he cant win tomorrow ,when can he win.


I guess this statement outlines what's wrong with the world we live in; someone appears to [mod] and is applauded for having the balls to do it. Call me old fashioned, but when I was growing up you'd be embarrassed to [mod] as would your whole family if you did so,

Interestingly, Keke Rosberg was scalding of Schumacher in 2006 when he did it. I guess I'd love to be in the same room as them too when the question is asked.

Seems the stewards were a bit gutless too.

Hey ho, adds spice to the season and we all know Bernie loves that.


You think he cheated and admire him for it?

It's sad we live in an era where cheating is applauded by so many as being professional.


I have looked hard and long at this and the upshot is I can't defend ROS in this, I jut can't. It looked wrong. No matter what he said, it simply looked wrong, from on board, from everywhere. He was sawing at the wheel on the straight, almost looking like he's attempting to loosen up the back end.

I liked the guy prior to this, thought he was above this kind of thing. It might sound trite, but maybe he really does want this badly, which whilst good, has led us to this. It's damaged his reputation, at best and Merc will not look good in all this either.

However, for the fan, it sets the season up wonderfully and is just what we want, as neutrals. I also bet you press guys are rubbing your hands gleefully.

On a side note, do you think Ham started sandbagging in FP to stop ROS peeking at his telemetry? He seemed on it straight away in Q2 with none of the issues he had in FP.


Based on those comments I assume you completly despise Senna for what he did in Suzuka 90. It was premeditated, deliberate and dangerous not to mention selfish. I don't believe Nico did it on purpose, I dont believe he's capable of it. The stewards have looked at the telemetry and facts and have concluded there's no case to answer. Their conclusions should be respected and Nico should be at least given the benefit of the doubt. Lewis is just being spoiled Lewis and making sure brand Lewis is kept in the spotlight. There's a reason why he's the highest earning sports person in the rich list and it's not all down to his driving either.


Ah, so the slight aimed at Hamilton kind of points out you may have a small agenda. Nico is not capable of something obvious to a lot of people, but Lewis is spoiled. That's completely subjective nonsense. You have a view, I have mine. I have no agenda.

I thought Senna not the driving god most assume, as he was borderline psychotic with his driving, dangerous and lacked respect for the other drivers. But that's a different story.

No conclusions should be respected, for I don't trust them at all; they've been known to make odd decisions and gifting Nico the win keeps the show interesting. Call me jaded, but after 40 years of watching F1, I have seen it all.

by the way, I neither like or loathe either of the drivers, but recognise a genuine talent when I see one and from my perspective, Hamilton is worth every penny he gets.

I have watched it again today, thinking it might change my perspective, but it hasn't, it hasn't changed a thing. Hamilton also states from his view of the Data that it was still iffy. However, regardless, I have learned to trust my own instincts in life, and this smells badly. This will all come out in the wash, it always does.

Makes the show all that bit more exciting for the plebeians though, which I guess makes the season more interesting.


I am an old man too, [mod] You talk of Hamilton not having the grace to congratulate him on the win, but don't discuss the lack of grace when ROS was jumping about with the news he'd got pole. He didn't just ruin Ham's lap, he ruined the other 8's laps too. It was crass and I can see how he was upset. Then we get news this wasn't Rosbergs first how of gamesmanship which Ham foolishly followed. I don't know how Hamilton is coming out bad about this, these guys would race each over over eating pasta, but somehow, Hamilton being upset, as he should do, is something he's being lambasted with, when, even if you're being charitable, Ros seems to have used gamesmanship (at best) or cheating (at worst) to take away a pole. It's not really an objective statement. I have read, and I obviously don't want to state it's true, that Ros braked 10-15m late for that corner. If it's true, then you have to conclude something is amiss, as these are guys who 1-3 m is a big deal, for they are always on the limit; these guys go lap on lap within 1-3m of a braking point, it's what makes them the stars they are, but he makes it that late? Seriously?

It stinks, it simply does. Normally F1 transcends nationalistic boundaries, but despite an English Father and German Mother, I am going with Dad for the rest of the season. I really hope Karma is real for Ros.


Well Paul I have been watching F1 for over 50 years and I too have learned to trust my own instincts. At least we agree on the illusion that Senna was some kind of god is nonsense and your own description is right on the button. His bad example led to other drivers behaving that way.

Now that Lewis has put him on an pedestal and is coming out with childish comments like "I will handle it like Senna" is annoying to say the least. If Senna had god given talents then he was simply lucky but his behavour to other drivers and the world in general was his own bad manners. He knew he could get away with so much and pushed it to the limit. Suzuka 90 was a failure of F1 more so tha Senna who was basically cheating and being petulant.

Any I like both drivers although I am a Ferrari fan. But i like all the drivers and appreciate good driving where ever it is. Lewis convinced me some time ago that he was something special and a number of years ago I predicted he would end up being the wealthiest of them all. His comments about Nico not being as hungry have a certain validity but the reality is that Nico is a hard working driver who continiously pushes himself to the limit and works harder than Lewis. Of course he will have to if he wants to beat Lewis because Lewis's talent makes him a formidable opponent.

However petulant Lewis reminds me of the behavour of some of the people he hangs around with and I find it particulaly annoying. Not congratulating Nico in Monaco was childish and bad sportsmanship in my opinion but then again he's still young and he will hopefully learn some manners as he gets older.

As for Nico's "error", I dont believe he has it in him to cheat and I believe the incident was an accident. Derek Warrick is a tough steward and he would have penalised Nico or at least reprimanded him had there been anything in the telemetry to suggest foul play.

I believe in that moment, based on what I saw, Nico thought he had blown it. Also at that point both cars were neck and neck and Nico had been faster in the last sector so it is reasonable to suggest he would have beaten Lewis anyway. I think Nico was slightly embarassed about his mistake and guessed it would be controversal which is what your maturing instinct probably picked up on. I picked up on that too and came to the aforementioned conclusion. When you get to my age you will realise that instinct is important but should also be verfied by the facts.

Of Course Lewis and his fans will see it differently but there you go. The reality is that Nico was aquited of wrongdoing and won the race and I for one am glad because if Lewis had won it would have been difficult for him to come back.

So there it is we both trust our instincts and have come to different conclusions. Based on age and experience I could claim to have the correct one but that would be nonsense, we both have nothing to gain by perpetrating a lie. You did pick up on a "small agenda" and you were right but your conclusion regarding it was wrong. I do have a problem when I hear drivers putting Senna on a pedestal and saying they will emulate him.

Suzuka 90 is the worst instance of cheating in F1 and to see the cheater glorified by many to this day and Prost who was the victim villified by them does bug me. I respect Senna as a great talent, a generous man in some respects but he's not the greatest driver ever. I put Jim Clark, Alain Prost and Michael Schumacher and one or two others above him.


Worse than the Piquet crash in Singapore?


What issues in FP, Lewis was faster then Nico in all three FP's?


I should qualify. I have noticed Ham will go Purple, then seem slower, then go purple in another sector and be slower elsewhere Before this weekend, I thought if they're sharing data, whether hamilton will be subtle about making it less than top notch data. I always get the impression he's not giving it all away until he needs to. I didn't articulate it well enough it would seem.

So, the long and the short if it, is asking James if he had any view on it.


What exactly did Hamilton mean when he said he'll go the same way as Senna did with Prost? Could it mean anything other than possibly running into Rosberg? That's the only thing I can think of.


Ricciardo (and myself) is counting on it!


Just watched and compared Rosberg's pole lap and the second one and you can clearly see the 'error' was deliberate. He clearly upset the car with the multiple steering and caused that but hey karma is always around to fix things like this so we will see. Not surprised the FIA decided to see nothing wrong. If I was them I would rather let Mercedes clear their own mess and stay out of it. Interesting season ahead now.


I suppose you know much better than the stewards then who have all the data from the car and heard technical and driver arguments.

What was your insight into the crash? Oh you watched it on tv. clearly you know more than those who reviewed the evidence then.


--- WAY OFF TOPIC ----

But "qualifying" news.


JPM second fastest in Indy Qualy at 231.007 mph

Still one of my fav drivers!


Just glad Nico didn't get a penalty (cheeky of him though)...the making of an awesome race tomorrow. The start will be blockbuster stuff.


If Lewis Hamilton causes a deliberate accident at turn 1 "the way senna handled it" will he be excluded from the championship like Michael Schumacher in 97?


I can understand why he would want to do this but I think it would be a big mistake. Just accept second today and prove you are the better driver for the rest of the year. ....shouldn't be too difficult !


Were all OK with it.

And if not, it changes nothing.

We'll just like him more if he becomes WDC, because to win you have to be cut throat and ruthless.


We'll like him more?

I think MSC's title in 1994 remains suspect b/c of his shunt with Hill in AUS. The thing with MSC is that you wondered why he had to do such things, as he was a very good driver who shouldn't need such "crutches".

Ruthless is one thing. Ruthless and cutthroat was Lewis' driving in Bahrain, ahead of Rosberg. Rosberg's driving in quali yesterday was not ruthless, but underhanded. Big difference.


Imagine you knew he did it, but got away with it. To Lewis that would be worse than error.

If Nico wanted to play mind games he'd quietly whisper to Lewis that it was on purpose, that would really screw with Lewis' mind. It's not Nico's style though, he knows Lewis is doing it all to himself.

Hopefully Lewis keeps cool and not try to get his back via clever way. Track performance is the way here. But that button Bahrain trick sure takes the quality of that Lewis Bahrain defence, doesn't it?

This is about stamping absolute authority. It doesn't say on the trophy that Senna took WDC in questionable ways, does it? Neither does it about Schumi.


Maybe not, but history will never be kind on Schumacher and only on Senna as he died, imo, of the was as bad, f not worse.

The one thing I keep coming back to, the one absolute about all of this, is that Jim Clark's could do all of what these guys could do, and still be loved and admired by just about everyone in F1 (and F2) and that speaks volumes. I didn't get to see him race, but have read through many back catalogues of magazines of the day and historical reference books. I genuinely wish I could have seen him race to have a better reference point. I can't see how people are defending cheating as being the best way to win a championship, even Lauda is doing it with his the best drivers need a bit of bastard in them. Really? Is that where we've got? It's ok he [mod] as he proved he wanted it more?

Time for a reality check I think.


What 'button Bahrain trick'? It was Nico that used the "forbidden" engine mode in Bahrain, and he still couldn't get past! Add that to the pile with the other advantages:

- faster tires

- ahead on fuel consumption

- gap negated b/c of SC

- 10 laps to go

This was the only track (possibly the Hungaroring) where the benefits of Nico's off, if it was intentional, are quite large. Pole at Monaco, if you get a decent start and have reliability, is nine-tenths of the win done.

If Nico's Q3 was on purpose, and Lewis goes on another winning run, then all he'll be left with is that 'I can only win through dubious means'. That'd be quite the stark reality to face up to, and all in his own mind.


Is this a mountain out of a mole hill or no smoke without fire?


No, no, no. It's a storm in a teacup. 😉


How does Nico explain the reversing back onto the track? There was no need to do that and it whiffs of "making sure the job was done". I like what Autosport did, showing the different driver reactions. Seems there's a lot of suspicion, and not just from the media. Just not sure how one can explain such a thing happening given it didn't happen to him a single time during practice or qualifying.

I hope, for the sake of the championship, that this helps Nico turn the tide. Nothing will look worse than him managing to win in such circumstances for this one race, then proceed to get destroyed in the subsequent 4-5 races.


My sentiments exactly. Why did he try to reverse out when there was ample slip road in front of him to pull the car out of the way to prevent an accident if the same thing happened to another driver??


Its on like donkey kong with hammers...

Doubt rosberg did it deliberately...if he did then kudos...to play the game first know the rules...

Would be interesting to see which page hamilton borrows from sennas playbook...suzuka 1990? Hmm...deliberate crash would be a pr disaster for hamilton.

Best just let these boys race....

Chips n drinks at the ready...lights go out at 14:00 our time for possibly the best dice so far....


Glad this was the decision (allowing Rosberg to keep his pole). The race will be much better for it.

The incident itself, whatever the truth, now adds needle to the championship, which is always good for us in our armchairs.

Looking forward to tomorrow!


Lewis is such a tough character that he will turn the situation around in tomorrow's race. The battle expected to happen between Kimi and heavily favoured Fernando in Ferrari seems to have jumped to Merc garage.


So, once again a driver appears not to understand the meaning of 'sportsmanship'. It's a great shame, if true, because in many ways Nico Rosberg is a very likeable guy. I wonder, when he knew he'd screwed Lewis's lap, did he go and say, sorry?

I'd love to be a fly on the wall next time Nico is alone with his dad.


"The matter went before the FIA stewards, who have better tools and equipment to measure and compare to previous laps and to analyse than back in 2006 and certainly better than any outsider or media pundit. Derek Warwick is the FIA driver steward this weekend and he is both very experienced in that role and a man of integrity."

I wouldn't say that the matter is only about of any better tools or some steward is well experienced.

From my point of view if nowdays MS were in Niko's place now I would gurantee 100% that he would have been found guilty again as it was in 2006. Even with the same evidence as in Niko case (or even less severe).

What strikes me the most is the way Niko selebrates this pole position.

From my point of view he was ready to behave like this in advance. His words are well prepared , no any stress like in 2006's case with MS.

These all make me think that it was intentionally. And if you plan it nobody will even know it if you are smart enough.

If you didn't plan it, like I think it was the case with MS, you would have a stress and you wouldn't selebrate it as you undestand what has happened and what other think about it.


I would file this incident for now and give Rosberg the benefit of a doubt. However, I would observe him a little bit closer now. With that I would continue to rank him close to the top in terms of his integrity as a driver.


i think that pilots should be penalized for crashes even it'snt on purpose. when maldonado crashes with someome on 17th position he is penalized for ruining someones race and if he crashes with the wall and safety car comes and ruins races for the pilots who has already pitted it is the race incident. I think that this is unfair.

Nico ruined qualification for 10 pilots with his mistake but he was announced as the winner. Qualification winner should be able not only make fastest lap but avoid such mistakes that will ruin others race.

If i crash with the electricity piller police will penalize me even if i didn't crashed deliberatly


James, recall Schu did not "crash into the barriers at Rasscasse." The Ferrari simply stopped there.

I remember the language you used to describe the verdict then; you were less convinced than Martin Brindle about it.

Antonio Palmiotto

Disgusted about Senna reference. Looks like he doesn't know anything from his hero, isn't it?


1 it is clear that Rosberg did not mean to crash

2 Rosberg was unwise to celebrate wildly

3 Rosberg has rightly apologised to hamilton for ruining his lap

Let's enjoy a hopefully great race tomorrow and rest of season


It will be a hell of a test of maturity and skill for Hamilton tomorrow. He will need supreme self-control to avoid a risk of coming-together with Rosberg. Assuming Rosberg has a good start then if Hamilton still manages a win he will be a true great and Rosberg will be broken. Team strategy will be very important: I'm guessing the team will opt to give Lewis the best chance of an undercut to make things fair.


did he really back up ?

if he did , can only have been to create a yellow for hamilton , couldn't do another lap


I'm pretty certain the initial incident wasn't deliberate but reversing back on to the circuit was surely more calculated . Why there's no rule preventing this is a mystery , pretty dangerous too .


It can be a trigger point of the teammate war...


Maybe Rosberg was hungrier than Hamilton after all! LOL

I don't think there'll be a team mate war.

Hamilton has had the measure of Rosberg all season so far.

That said, he is bound not to win all of the races he finishes, and not to claim all the poles either. That was one of them.

Tornillo Amarillo

Everything is ridiculous, they have to change the rules, when Yellow flags appears in the last 2 minutes they have to add another 2 minutes to Q3, like in soccer they add minutes at the end to compensate for delays...

Can anybody see it in the FIA?! Ridiculous...


It doesnt matter if you have 2 minutes extra. To improve your time you need completely new tyres. If you made half lap in these tyres and then have to abort because yellow flags, the tyres are already too "worn out" to improve your time

Tornillo Amarillo

Maybe you can change tyres, put it in the rules as well, allow more tyres, otherwise it's ridiculous.


soccer? whats that?

Tornillo Amarillo

11 players vs 11 players with a ball, it`s very funny, and a Word Cup each 4 years.


I agree with that. Also they should add 3 minutes to end of the session if there was any red flag.


if rosberg hadn't reversed out of his mistake would hamilton had had a chance at pole? if so why was rosberg not penalised for reversing out of his mistake?


One explanation for the reverse was that if he'd have parked it then the car would have been lifted out by a crane and that would have revealed the floor section to other teams.

Personally I think the initial error was an accident, but the reverse was calculate.



is it illegal to reverse on the track, or is it in the pits only?


Pits only. Plus Hamilton had gone past when Ros was still in the run off, so really what did Ros do wrong? He couldn't reverse out because he would then get into the path of Hamilton so he had to stay and wait. All these comments about adding extra time or moaning that he did it on purpose are silly. Hamilton has said time and time again that Ros has a faster car. He beat him in qual. Hamilton cries like a little spoilt kid. Seriously immature, and for me just pisses me off because his explain is not acceptable. He plays this silly mind games but when he loses it or on the track he becomes a cry baby, refuses to talk to the media or only one word answers and overall seems like an donkey. Lewis needs to up his game for personality because Nico wins that hands down.


It's only an offence to reverse in the pitlane


Only in the pits, you can reverse out on the racetrack if it's safe to do so I believe.


Wasn't Hamilton passed by then? Just the fact he was in the escape road justifies the yellow flag.


Exactly. The moment Rosberg left the track dutch commentary Olav Mol said yellow flags were out so Hamilton has to lift.

Given the distance between them its likely Hamilton's chance for pole was already destroyed before Rosberg tried to get back on the track.

On the other hand I think Hamilton has every right to be p*ssed. Not because Rosberg cheating but because he was robbed a second attempt for pole.

I remember it from karting, you are concentrated on getting the best result possible. Every negative influence on that can be so frustratring, its beyond imagination.

However to say "respond the way Senna did" is a little to strong in my eyes and clearly points at the way Senna took revenge on Prost on the Japanese GP.


Why wasn't his team on the radio telling him to stay put?


I'm asking myself the very same thing. Maybe it happened too fast?



So correct me if I'm wrong,but its an offense to impede anothers lap whilst going about you business but not an offense if you lock up,take to the escape road,and then reverse back on to the track in to the path of others.

I'm shaking my head in wonderment.


This is the first time that I have heard that impeding has to be deliberate before the driver is penalized. In the past, stewards had never even tried to establish if there was deliberation on the part of the offending driver before he is punished.

What the current stewards did was to me entirely wrong and they should be noted for future suitability to be one. When a driver causes a yellow flag he is impeding other drivers already and in Monaco where grid position is so important to the final result, some penalty should have been imposed.


Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think this actually matters. I think whenever someone is in the run off zones in Monaco, it automatically becomes a yellow flag situation. In such situation the driver would have to lift his foot from the throttle, or else he could be penalised for causing a dangerous situation.

Rosberg might have done one or two cars a favour by reversing, just not the ones that were close behind him.


I'm sorry but I think you are Wrong. IF he stays out and does not disturb the others the yelow Flag stops. But if he tries a dangerous move as he did ir prolongs te flag. IS That second move correct?

That is the question as Aveli pointed, in my opinion.




My question exactly. I'm willing to accept that Rosberg didn't make the initial mistake on purpose, if that's the conclusion the stewards came to with all the telemetry.

But WHY did he reverse? I can't see any reason for doing that under the circumstances. He knew everybody behind him was on their final lap - he should have waited safely out of the way until the session was over. He either reversed because he wasn't using his brain, or he did it to prolong a yellow flag.

Would the yellow flag have been lifted by the time Hamilton entered the sector? That's the question people should be asking.


he reversed so he could get back to parc ferme otherwise he would have broke the rules and got a penalty(see ham spain 2012 or vet abu 2012)

if he had waited til the end of session to reverse his engine would have overheated.


Bingo! No good reason why he had to reverse.


have re-watched on youtube, can't help it, looks very suspicious. I never took Nico as cheater but maybe he did make a small error and didn't try as hard as he might have to avoid going down the escape road. Definitely has shades of Schumacher 06 which also looked looked like he decided to "enhance an error" to his advantage. Didn't work for him though. Gotta say I thought Nico's looked more deliberate than Michaels.


Dunno which clip you watched but nico got out the second last chicane before the halt untidy, the rear was loose and the run off was just as a result of that. Even FIA couldnt see any problem from nico's lap.


Enhance an error...never thought of 06 that way. Interesting way to put it.


try all you can to believe what rosberg said and let it lie. how would doing that on purpose help him in the long run?


What if he KNEW he would get away with it beforehand. That was the fastest yellow I ever did see. Like it was rehearsed.


Well If this all goes downhill from here it will on Nico. The moment you have to rely on dirty tactics to beat your team mate, its clear you have run out ideas.


The whole incident did look a tad fishy, not quite in the same league as Schumi but you wouldn't expect ROS to have an incident there.

However, HAM needs to keep cool during the race and take his expected 2nd place finish. Don't take any risks pushing too hard for 1st. Plenty of races left to prove his point.

The first corner might be a bit feisty!


I think a collision between Hamilton and Rosberg in the first corner is actually good for Hamilton, no?


YES. Will see there his real carácter. Lets don't forget his 2007 incidents and actitude with other drivers just to make the most of his only chance to win a championship, until now.


I guess......


Not if they both go out and Hamilton gets a ten place grid penalty for next race.


Not if he gets penalised for it.

His senna comments won't do him any good will they?

I'd just race fair and try and catch Nico out, either during the stops or at the first corner.

If not just take second place and move on.



It's not good for me, I've got a bet on that Mercedes will win every race!


To be fair hasn't Hamilton gone into the barriers at almost the same spot in qualifying a few years back? Most drivers, even the best, have a history of a few clangers at Monaco, especially in Quali - if Rosberg DID do it on purpose he has some skill as the onboard camera does show him a split second from binning it in the wall and that could have ruined his Sunday if the car was damaged in some way.

But hey, if I was Hamilton I'd be suspicious too. But I'd also probably stop trying the 'Nico is a spoilt rich kid while I'm from the mean streets of Stevenage and only spent 2/3rds of my life as a multimillionaire with a private jet living in a tax haven...' It seems to bring out a more ruthless response in the 'rich' kid...


spent 2/3rds of my life as a multimillionaire with a private jet living in a tax haven...

Hamilton is 29. According to your calculations he has been living as a multi millionaire etc since before he was 10 years old.

Methinks you need a new calculator 😉


I was probably using the old red bull fuel flow rate calculator - I'll just blame Renault!


I think he is calling NR spoilt father's son. Not just a rich guy. Do not forget who his father is and what represents for a race carrear.

But the reality is that HAM (protected from chilhood by Mclaren), as NR (by his father's contacts) or SEB (by RB), had it relativelly easy. At least easier than many others.

I always have thought this is the real difference between the three of them and Alonso.

They all are fast, great drivers, but ALO is more combative because of his touht way to get into F1. A self made racer.


To be honest Alonso is probably the very last of the generations who could get in purely by graft. Hamilton isn't alone in being supported and sponsored and protected as an asset since being young. That's the norm now.

The comment, whether Hamilton denies it or not was a mind game - all these comments are mind games - Nico choosing to celebrate is a mind game.

Winning championships takes a lot more than raw speed - there have been very fast drivers who got nowhere - psychological warfare goes back as early as warfare itself. I guess the difference with Lewis and Nico is they quite want to be liked public ally as well. Schumacher and Vettel seemed relative sanguine about being media hate figures as long as they were winning.


Tough not touht


I think if Nico had gone into the barriers no-one would have given it a second thought. The fact that his "mistake" happened in such a way that his car wasn't damaged at all and his position was maintained is just a bit too much to swallow.


"However, HAM needs to keep cool during the race and take his expected 2nd place finish"

He should also avoid the flying pig 😉


Lewis's reaction was disgusting. He couldnt beat nico in the beginning of Q3 n was trying to utilise a better rubbered track in the end by going out later than nico n got caught in the yellow flags. If he was that much faster why couldnt he out pace his teammate earlier?

Im surprised so many ppl were trying to ignite a big firework from nico's accident. Nico apologised right in front of lewis for causing yellow flags. He didnt need to as he was trying to better his own lap and went too far, this is racing, being brave gets rewards or punishd. I think this is the turning point for nico, he will toughen up from this and go on to beat lewis and claim his maiden title.

Being it a mind game or what, at least lewis didnt deserve the pole.


"Lewis’s reaction was disgusting."

Remember, it came after seeing Nico dancing on his car as if he'd driven a great lap. Even the commentators were surprised at that. A better man would have been a little more humble.

"If he was that much faster why couldnt he out pace his teammate earlier?"

The difference was 0.050. That's hardly telling and it's not something that couldn't be overturned.

"Nico apologised right in front of lewis for causing yellow flags."

Apologised after it being pulled from him.

"He didnt need to as he was trying to better his own lap and went too far, this is racing, being brave gets rewards or punishd."

He would have known from his own steering wheel display that he wasn't going to improve as much as he needed to to improve his time and get pole.


SEB apologised in front of WEB in the multy 21 gate, too...


One the contrary Lewis was prevented doing his pole lap by a very cleverly executed gaff I don't buy.


His reaction of disappointment was disgusting? Are you serious? How could he not be disappointed? Its the height of competition so emotions can run high. Also, waiting until the end to run a fast lap has been a common strategy by all drivers over time. How exactly is that bad? So explain.


Yeah I agree- even if I think Lewis is a quicker racer. He just psyched himself out!


Complete rubbish Lewis was quicker on final lap and deserved the pole. I didn't think Rosberg had it in him but this Schumacher style move will certainly not win him any friends in the uk - expect he will get the vettel treatment at silverstone this year


I agree.. this really is much ado about nothing. I suspect Hamilton will get ahead in the race anyway. All these vague threats about "Senna" payback are little childish.


with all due respect, rosberg apologised after he was asked. he didn't apologise right away, the apology was drawn out of him.

points are awarded in the race so why don't we just watch how the race plays out. rosberg said it was an error so we should believe him and move on.


Yeah, Lewis didn't deserve the pole, why should the fastest driver who didn't make any mistakes be rewarded for it? I think Formula 1 is at it's best when people are rewarded for making mistakes (or, if we're being controversial, when they cheat).


+1 lol 🙂


You're dreaming. Things from now on will get worst for Nico. People will be watching him. It's obvious to me he can't handle the pressure. That's the reason he locked up in the first place. He better win Monico because Canada is a Hamilton track.


YOU are right. That is the kind of situations that get People boo them in the podium... like with SEB. NR was clever. But too clever?

Time will tell...


'Disgusting' might be a bit harsh especially as his actions were very much in the heat of the moment, but for sure it was very unbecoming.

The whole episode has left a poor taste and certain parts of the British F1 media need to take stock after today's ugly statements and innuendo.


would hamilton had had the chance to complete his final lap if rosberg hadn't reversed out of his mistake? if yes, why was he not penalised for reversing out of his mistake to ruin hamilton's final lap? if rosberg wins tomorrow, it will only be because of his actions during qualifying just like his victory in melbourne only because hamilton wasn't in the race. unlucky rosberg. i hope he has better luck next time.


Yes, this is the key question. My gut says it wasn't premeditated. BUT, once the mistake was made, why didn't he get out of the way?


He went down the escape road but there is no way out except to reverse and some commentators have mentioned that yellow flags are out as soon as the escape road is full - even if Rosberg had sat there Lewis was so close behind he would have had to slow for the flags anyway.

Again I guess either the entire thing was deliberate and a very well planned and orchestrated conspiracy or it was just a very fortunate mistake by Nico. So either way he's a genius or lucky!


I get it now. Every time lewis doesnt get the pole to win the race, there is always more excuses than he simply didnt have the upperhand over nico. If lewis was quicker why didnt he show his speed from at least the beginning of Q3??


I think it was deliberate as I think a driver of Rosberg's calibre could quite easily fake such an incident if he had a mind to. Look at it this way. He realised Hamilton was waiting for the final lap before putting in his pole lap, and Rosberg had already put in a very fast banker lap. Rosberg did not have to reverse back onto the track knowing cars including Lewis were on their final fast laps. If he had stayed at the end of the runoff the yellow flags would not have been displayed, but he had to reverse to make sure those flags came out which is precisely what he did. From the stewards point of view nothing was wrong visually, and only the unspoken truth is something only Rosberg knows. One thing is for sure it's going to be an interesting start!


A driver of Rosberg's talent could easily fake the incident. But would a driver of his integrity? No.


Integrity like trust has to be earned, and when push comes to shove I couldn't be sure about what he may do, but there will now be a question mark over this incident regardless of the stewards decision. One thing I have noticed about Nico is that he tends not to mention his team mate, but did in this regard. I think it's a German trait, if they can't win fairly then foul means will do, something Hanilton would never do.


FYI: Hamilton was censured while a Mclaren for teling lies to stewards.


My understanding is that if a car is in a run off area in the direct line of a car going off the at least a stationary yellow will be shown. The following drivers would have had to be slower than their previous best in that marshalling sector (shorter than the timing sectors we see). I don't think the reversing mattered under the rules, but I could be wrong. If Rosberg could have zigzagged between tyres as some run off areas have, then the sector would go green. But I'm not sure if that was available here. The driver would never want to do that anyway.


The video shows the yellows were waving before he reversed at all as it's considered a hazard to be in that run off and it's an exit for recovery vehicles. The reversing DOES seem the more cynical act I agree - but the flags would have been waving on Lewis' approach and the only sector Lewis was beating Nico was the middle one. Nico had been faster in the first and last sector pretty much all day.


I've not seen a video showing the timing of the yellow lights. Lewis's comment was that he had found the time and was more than 2 tenths up on Nico when he had to slow down.


AuraF1: I expect Lewis meant he was over 2 tenths up overall up to the point he had to back off! Personally I think it was a very carefully contrived bit of work Nico had in his back pocket to deploy if he saw Lewis going quicker. Fastest lap last one over the line is always the aim, but it has risks attached to it especialy at Monaco. Either way Nico can't say that he beat Lewis because his final lap had to be aborted.


The video analysis on Sky showed Hamilton was basically matching Nico - not 2/10ths up - but he was generally faster in the middle sector and that's where he would have had to lift. The yellows weren't cleared and wouldn't have been until Nico had left the exit road - so the reversing wasn't the issue - if he'd sat there idling he still would have ruined Lewis' lap. So Nico either planned the whole thing very carefully or it was a very fortunate place to mess up.

To be fair Hamilton was losing out in the first and last sector to Nico the whole qualifying so he could have avoided the whole scenario by being faster earlier - if you leave your run until the end you ALWAYS risk yellow flags - especially at a street circuit like Monaco. It's a risky strategy.


I think you'll find that in the ultra safety conscious paranoia of F1 these days, the yellows were on that corner the moment NR went into the escape road & would have stayed on regardless of whether he reversed out or not. LH & everyone else's laps were ruined no matter what. Pretty sure LH was past that point when NR was still in the escape road, and before he had engaged reverse. It would be a different story if F1 wasn't so panicky about the slightest of safety related issues, look how often the timer flashes on and off yellow throughout race and qualifying, it's ridiculous. A butterfly dying and falling onto the track could trigger a yellow flag these days.


I could not be sure on either point, but Lewis was someway/time behind as Nico went early and Nico made his way out promptly.


But by reversing Nico ensured he kept his fate in his own hands, and gave the stewards no options at all.


From in car view it 100% looks like ROS did this on purpose, from other angle looks like he locked tyres . But a driver of his standard surely could have the ability to lock up on cue?!


I was disappointed that we were denied the spectacle of the last 2 minutes of Q3.

Do I think that NR deliberately lost it, no, and I don't want to think so. But did he know he was ragged and recklessly push on careless of the consequences to his rival behind? That's harder to tell.

Lewis's task is to maintain a steely resolve and not get ragged himself, while Nico must put behind him the thought that he blew it and was saved by the rules.

The first corner is looking fraught with danger, another poor start from Nico??

Last year Lewis lost out to RB on the undercut, there's plenty of challenge in the following pack. Will Nico back Lewis into Dan...


Lewis lost out because he didn't meet the safety car delta time. It was the undercut that did it, but rather leaving too much time to Nico on the in lap. He should have arrived when Nico was leaving the box, but instead it was something like six seconds later. Therefore there was a nine seconds given to Vettel and Webber for free.


Lewis didn't lose out on the undercut, he lost out because he was caught sleeping during the safety car period. Not a great race for him really...


I think last year, both drivers were told by Ross Brawn not to race themselves before the first corner. Otherwise Lewis could perfectly have exited Ste.Devote first, as Nico's start was rather disappointing.

I hope this year it is gloves off. This development may not have been deliberate, but it brought back too many memories of Hungary 2007.


I think it will be gloves off now regardless. I just hope they can race cleanly without contact.


Hamilton has been looking for a reason to create tension. His comments about being more hungry than Rosberg was deliberately inflammatory. I think he has watched Rush too many times on his private jet and is trying to be Senna Reincarnate ! Today he should have kept his hob shut until the stewards decided cos now I think his post qualifying behaviour was not classy at all.


OK, so you don't like Lewis and want to make a cheap jibe about him watching a movie in which he's inspired to be like Senna, I get it, very clever.

Except you picked a movie that doesn't have Senna in it at all.

Even though there's a really famous F1 documentary out there called, you know, "SENNA"!


Rush / Senna ???

The version I've seen must have been different 🙂


Agree. I think it was fantasy land stuff from Lewis. James 'milked it' from him from post quali


Not the first time. I remember the stewards used to target him because of his skin colour. And of course he went over to grab a drink from Red Bull, presumably after Maclaren ran out.


If anything James' report *underplayed* the impact that Nico's "mistake" had on the outcome of pole.


What do you expect me to do -gloss over it

You've got the whole world wanting to know what happened.

That's hardly milking it!


It wasnt presented like "it was unfortunate Nico spun..".. It was something like "isn't it ironic Nico spun on the last lap"

Then "what did you think of the spin"..For goodness sake Nico spun.. Yellow flags- end of quali..nothing to it.

I guess it doesnt take much to bait Lewis and even less to keep him hooked


It wasn't milking. I presume it is very difficult to ask the right questions to someone who is this p*ssed like LH was yesterday but to me you did just that.

After it was clear he didn't want to say much you switched to DR (who was p*ssed too LOL)

But it is fantastic to see these kind of emotions and politics already this early in the season. Its part of F1and it spices things up a little. I think F1 needs it at a time of utter Merc domination and discussions about engine noise.


Absolutely! I think you did it really well, quickly focusing in on the issue and responding quickly to Hamilton's reaction, rather than going through the motions of the standard questions. That's journalism.

Personally, I was hoping your first question was going to be "Nico, congratulations. Did you do it deliberately?"


His behavour is no where near his driving. Alonso is known to be political but at least alonso shows respect for his fellow drivers


I agree with you, I think that Hamilton has some sort of Senna wannabe fantasy. He will need a "foe".

Still, I would love to see him winning this sunday and I hope that he finally grows up into himself.


He(HAM) will maybe fly outside the car in the middle of the race, thit into NR and overtake him At the same time.... hahahaha


the media need something to talk about on an otherwise boring weekend.

Let's say Lewis is creating another Alonso.


Keep his hob shut, even if he's hungrier?!

Had no idea Senna was in Rush, shall have to watch it again.

Still I agree Hamilton did want to create tension and successfully provoked Rosberg. The question is who uses this incident more smartly both on track and internally. Dividing the Mercedes team may not be the best strategy for Hamilton. It's not McLaren with the Spanish Alonson in a very English environment.


The stewards have access to much more information and can make judgements based on imperical evidence not individual perceptions.

Race and qualifying results have been determined by chance events like safety cars or flags. Race drivers make their runs knowing events can alter the expected or desired outcome.

A persons character is judged by the way they handle these chance events when they are impacted by them - positively or negatively.

Both drivers could have done better in that regard today. Nico -less celebrating initially. Lewis - less sulking and be more of a sportsman.


When the stewards start sharing in detail some of this "imperical evidence" instead of releasing a one-line statement saying "nope, nothing to see here" I'll start taking their rulings with the respect some people seem to think they deserve. Until then frankly as far as I'm concerned they don't hold any more judgemental weight than the thousands of other conflicting opinions out there.

(And this isn't just over this incident, there are so many times when stewards make decisions that are totally baffling to fans of the sport that are completely unsupported by anything except their "expertise").

Mike from Colombia

Stewards are under massive public and corporate pressure.

Mercedes would threaten to pull out if accused of cheating in any way.


Why? They were accused of cheating last year and didn't budge. The only threat to leave was the boardroom not seeing results.


It looked like a accident to me. But even if was deliberate that's no reason for Hamilton to carry on like a petulant child in the post qually interviews. Go Nico.


What rubbish, Boo-hoo Hamilton.

You want to be on pole, go fastest, but today you weren't.

Data shown on the broadcast didn't suggest he wasnt up 2/10th anyway.

No question Hamilton can be fast, but he is far from the complete package compared to the true greats. He really doesn't handle things well when he's not winning. I thought going to merc was supposed to help him grow up?

Senna? Please.


he was 2/10th's up on his best lap and was gonig into the second sector where he had been quickest all day.I'm not saying he would of been on pole but when its been taken out of his hands by something he sees as wrong. Then i can understand why hes a bit peed off.


Delibrate or not no true sportsman wants to win it like that and I'm surprised by the disgusting gloating and celebration by Nico after parking the car. You not only robbed us of potentially a great final shoot out but also everyone else on the grid a chance of improving their grid position in a race where it's most important . You took advantage of a rare situation in racing where by making a mistake you gain one of the greatest prizes of all- hardly something to be proud off.

Tornillo Amarillo

Yes, he raised anxiety in HAMILTON, if they crash HAMILTON still remain at the top of the standings, but... the Team should talk really because the points for the team and its people are important, so... Undercut.

David in Sydney

I do get the sense that ROS is a little too obvious about this media face - the senseless celebrating for the pole after foiling what was supposed to be his best lap was nothing but media face gone wrong.


Lewis Hamilton is an extremely good driver but like so many drivers (and other celebrities) these days who have grown up in a one dimensional cocoon, cosseted and indulged their every whim since they can remember, he acts like a petulant child when things don't go his own way. He likes the way Senna 'dealt with' Prost? Senna 'dealt with it' by deliberately ramming Prost, thereby demonstrating perfectly the serious flaws in Senna's personality – another brilliant driver who was arguably also the first to start losing touch with reality and crossing over the line between maximum effort and bad sportsmanship when things didn't go his way. Then we had Schumacher extending the lessons learned from watching Senna, and now presumably Hamilton who says Senna was his hero. I understand the extreme pressures these young guys are under these days and sportsmanship seems to have gone out of the window as soon as sponsorship entered the arena, but Hamilton and some others need to take a leaf out of the book of people like Daniel Ricciardo, who doesn't have a hissy fit every time things don't go 100% his own way. A little bit of maturity goes a long way at the end of the day.


Funny. Senna behaved like a petulant child, and yet regarded as one if the greatest drivers of all time... practically a god

Prost, Alonso, Vettel, Schumacher, all had their own little tantrums, still they are the "greatest"

Hamilton, meanwhile....


If HAM stays in MERC for long, a new multy WDC will arrive strongly. Who doubts it?.

Not me, and I'm not his fan at all. He is one of the 3 best current drivers.

Not an angel, deffinitely


At last 33 posts in someone nails it, spot on David.


Well said!



Rosberg is the one under the microscope and you guys are digging at Hamilton??

Consider, not only was there a chance Hamilton could get pole but Daniel could have got 2nd and Vettel 3rd.

The track was faster - by Rosbergs own admission, it's not only about Hamilton.

Puts a totally different perspective on events.

DR is new to the sharp end and is demeaner is always positive but listen to what he says in the post race interview.

If I was Hamilton I would have said openly to rosberg 'I did not expect that from you......'

But it's over, there is a race due - could be one of the best we have seen on this track in many a year.

Lets hope it stays clean and may the best man win.

See you guys in a few.


Very well said David, your points are spot on. I am usually a huge Lewis fan, but in this case I don't think his reaction was appropriate. Nico too wasn't smart when he showed "excitement" for the pole yet he ruined everyone else's lap, but he did apologise. Lewis was just sulking and didn't even want to say a word. Lewis is a good driver, but I think he is such a bad loser.

Dean Reynolds

Im GLAD lewis is a bad looser! A good looser is a looser that doesnt want to be the best each and every time he is on track. Please tell me a top world champion that was not a bad looser. Daniel ricciardo has been memtioned above as a shining example of sportsmanship. .... what can you say to that?? The guy has won squat since coming to f1 and is currently enjoying driving the best car he has ever had with no pressure or expectation on him. IF he ever challenges for a world title let's review his sportsmanship again! GOOD on lewis for speaking his mind. You all complain that drivers are bland, corporate robots but when someone does show their true face and feelings they are hung out to dry. I want needle. I want drivers pushing themselves, their competitors, the RULES to the limit and I certainly dont want Lewis to accept coming second with a smile and a pat on the back of his competitor.



Take your nana's prize china,smash it,gloat about it,and then apologise to her.

What does the china look like after the apology ?


I think Nico celebrating is just another mind game. It was hilarious to hear Lewis say in an interview on Thursday, 'I don't play mind games all my talking is on the track' - this immediately after saying Nico was a spoiled rich kid who doesn't have the hunger of Lewis' working class childhood...

Nico doing a celebration made Hsmilton sulk. A sulky Hamilton is a Hamilton who makes more mistakes. It breaks his rhythm - which is exactly what Nico said he had to do.

It's mind games all the way down!

Zachary's disease

Excellent post!

David in Sydney

Sorru HAM but you're no SEN.


"I think I’ll take a leaf out of Senna’s book." Let's hope it's the "taking Rosberg out into the first corner" leaf.

Mike from Colombia



So you are advocating a deliberate accident at the first corner?

I'm shocked that LH even suggested such dangerous Senna type tactics. Very childish and unprofessional. Time for Toto or Niki to tweak his ear.

When a driver is pushing, especially at Monaco, minor incidents bring out the yellow flags. It's called street racing with no big run off areas. It's not ideal.. Them's the breaks on such circuits

Would you have felt the same if the roles had been reversed? I'm guessing not, so don't be hypocritical and accept this as a racing incident.


Wouldn't it be lovely if they took each other out and let DR through for his first win!


Hamilton is on track to not finish the race, as I have previously predicted on these pages (to much umbrage).

Of course, in the heat of the moment, this kind of... incident, could get a top competitor a little bit more heated up than usual;and, of course, whether intentional or not, such an incident will foment controversy; as this one has.

But upon reflection, after the trend of domination that Lewis has accomplished this year, almost everything can be used to increase his advantage.

For example, if he can beat Rosberg, for which I can imagine many possibilities, he can, yet again, accomplish something that Rosberg has failed to do, come from behind to win. If he doesn't, the fallout is low, with this tepid 'controversy' clouding the ring of victory for Rosberg.

This is not good for Rosberg, even if he wins!

It should be an automatic five grid-place penalty for a driver leading the qualifying to cause a yellow flag, but since this is not a rule (yet), I don't see how Rosberg can justly be penalized.

It looked a little fishy to me; but just not enough to hang someone (or take away their pole).

But like I said, even if he wins the race, this isn't a very good situation for Nico.

I hope the stewards don't assign a penalty on the backing up, if it happened; it's totally besides the point, now. He never really came dangerously back to near the racing line. The only real issue to me is whether he did it on purpose, or not.

I'm still sticking to my prediction that Lewis will NOT finish the race, incidentally, for those that asked, due to 'outside track issues', as the reason, i.e. head in the wrong place, however, I will now add my caveat, that if Lewis finishes the race, it will be to the top step of the podium.

So Lewy, get over it, especially if you're chasing some pole-position record or something! This is a fantastic opportunity to do what you do very, very well, win Formula One races; if you make it to the first corner before Nico, it doesn't matter anyways. Otherwise, undercut; if behind, then into the pits after fading back a bit; that's what Nico will do if Lewis gets to the corner first, but Lewis will be able to make it work!


I wouldn't agree with a five place grid penalty, as it would be unfair if it applied to the one driver.

Hamilton had a the same opportunity as Rosberg to perform on his first flying lap, so statistically, there is nothing wrong with everyone else aborting their second flying lap.


Thats a spurious logic.

Qualifying is based on multiple attempts, and usually the pole is achieved in the second, final run.

The rules do need to be looked at, especially if a driver reverses back on track. There was no reason for ROS to do this other than to guarantee the end of quali and thereby secure pole.


I just answered above, in reply to Kris.


" so statistically, there is nothing wrong with everyone else aborting their second flying lap."

So why do we bother having Qualifying Sessions that are long enough for multiple runs? Why don't we just presume the grid is established after everybody has had their first run?

Also, what does "so statistically" mean here?


Statistically, everyone has the same chance of posting a fast lap from between the light turns green to the yellow flag.

In Monaco, you'd want to put a banker lap anyway due to the high probability or likeliness of an incident causing either a yellow or red flag.

PS: By the way, I don't support anyone in particular since Alesi retired - I'm a neutral fan.


There's no undercut in Monaco because the tyres take several laps to warm up.

The Lewis head thing is just a myth, so I predict Lewis to finish (most likely ahead of Rosberg). It is Rosberg I expect to make mistakes and maybe end up behind Ricciardo.

KING Arthur 2 U

Dear me dear me what are we to do.It shall be well hungry warrior. The racing gods are with you


Why did back up? He should have parked the car and let the other finish their lap.


I'm honestly surprised people think Rosberg did this intentionally. He may not be the fastest guy out there, but he has always driven with integrity. Why would he suddenly start racing dirty now? It makes no sense.


Well... if you were being mercilessly spanked opportunity after opportunity... Wouldn't you turn tricky to try reverse the situation if your tormentor is definitely stronger than you?


Because he has a world championship on the line now? Schumacher only started driving into people when he would win the title as a result, this is just a less extreme version of that.


Except if you are a conspiracy theorist (or a Hamiton fan) maybe? 🙂

Tornillo Amarillo

Exactly, people change, he has a golden opportunity and he will do everything he can to grab it, including this first act.

Second act, clash.

Third act, mind games.

Four act, do not give space...

etc. and the year is terminated.

HAMILTON should react now.


Because the tension is being racked up and he desperately wants to end Hamilton's run of wins. My guess is that Hamilton will either take him at the start or through the tunnel where Nico's bravery will be found lacking.


Before Q3 I would have been inclined to agree with you, but his smirk and lack of genuine humility after Q3 really leaves me wondering.....


Was his over aggresive swerving in Bahrain a few years ago driving with integrity? That was a piece of dangerous driving that prompted a rule change by the fia.


Well said.


@ Matthew It does make sense. When people are under pressure they do things they're not used to doing. Hamilton has beaten him in the last 4 races. He had to do something to break the streak. If Rosberg doesn't win this race it could damage him psychologically.


I'm not convinced that he's suddenly racing dirty, but you have to admit that he suddenly has more to lose.

Tom in adelaide

Only an elite sportsperson could celebrate a "win" in those circumstances.


The body language kind of made it look unnatural. I thought Rosberg took the opportunity to infuriate Lewis further.


No he actually genuinely looked happy, until he was interrogated.

What a great champion!



I'm a big Lewis fan but fear he is in danger of out-psyching himself. His language in the press and demeanor are frankly embarrassing. This is not Senna/Prost, he needs to get over himself and grow up! His manager should encourage him to focus on his racing.

Still, at least we'll have fireworks tomorrow!


Couldn't agree more, Wow, embarrassing is an understatement. Always enjoyed to watch him racing, but he is incredibly immature...he hasn't learned anything as a professional outside of the car...to suggetst Rosgerg did that on purpose is truly metal. And to suggest he would take him out in the future is insane. As for Rosberg, he made a mistake trying too hard and apologised for it. He is a proper racer...Hamilton is quicker for sure, but for his legacy, I will only remember him for always acting like the back end of a donkey.


Completely agree.

It's a shame Lewis chose to overshadow his whole weekend with such behaviour, he's on the front row, did a great job in qualifying and is still on for the win. He should let his driving speak for itself.

All this talk of acting like Senna is really quiet foolish and immature. From a very far distance, I can't help but think he has very poor support and advisors.


That's HAM's biggest issue - he can't seem to control his emotions.

David in Sydney

I think HAM needs to find a new sports psychologist.


I think that a few weeks ago I have read something about Lewis refusing an sports psychologist?


Lewis, I thought/hoped you had matured and were past this kind of rubbish.

I really hope its all just a PR stunt.


Come on, I'd like to see all of you knocking Hamilton here remain cool in answer to relentless media questions (that you are contracted to answer) when you're still cooling down after an intense adrenalin rush in a situation where you think you've been wronged.

Fact is he was trying to avoid saying anything while actually wanting to let people know he was annoyed. He needs to reazlie that's unnecessary: acquire a bit of cool inscrutability when you're raging, a vague ironic smile rather than a scowl, much more frightening as everyone guesses it's all going on inside and revenge is being planned.


Fair point.

Inhindsight I think it was Nico's glee that would have annoyed him the most.

I am actually a big Lewis fan and just want him to do well but with dignity and I feel he didn't display much of that in the interview.




Why did he reverse back onto the track?