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Posted By: Justin Hynes  |  21 Feb 2014   |  4:33 pm GMT  |  256 comments

Lewis Hamilton finished the third day of testing in Bahrain at the top of the timesheet, as Red Bull Racing suffered another set-back, the team ending running early after Daniel Ricciardo had completed just 28 laps.

Hamilton spent the morning focusing on short runs and spent the best part of the day almost three seconds ahead of his rivals. His best time of the day was a 1:34.263 set on soft tyres. The Briton retired to the garage for a spell in the afternoon while Mercedes worked on a hydraulic problem but later emerged to work through longer runs, eventually topping out at 67 laps for the day.

Jenson Button finished the day in second position, seven tenths adrift of his former team-mate after clocking 1:34.976 on super soft tyres. The McLaren driver was the busiest man on track, however, putting in 103 laps of the Sakhir circuit for his second place on the timesheet.

Mercedes-powered cars again led the way, with Williams’ Felipe Massa posting 60 laps and a third fastest time of 1:37.066. The Brazilian, who had been restricted to just five laps on day one of the test, was given extra time in the car today, with Valtteri Bottas handing over the Massa after the Finn had spent the morning lapping but not recording a time as he repeatedly headed for pit lane to give his crew pit stop practice.

While Mercedes were driving forward – so much so that they could turn their attention to performance runs – Red Bull Racing were going backwards.

Daniel Ricciardo completed just over 20 laps before the team discovered a mechanical problem while making set-up changes during the lunch break and after five more laps in the afternoon, the team again called a halt to track running with Race Engineering co-ordinator Andy Damerum admitting that with the car needing to be dismantled it was better to focus on tomorrow’s running.

Once again, though, the champions weren’t the only team with issues. Ferrari’s hopes of early morning running were wiped out by telemetry problems and by the midway point of the day Kimi Raikkonen managed just 12 laps. He went on to a total of 44 by the end of the day, however, and a best time of 1:37.476.

Lotus’ problems continued, too. Pastor Maldonado, making his first appearance with his new team, started well but soon brought out the red flags, stopping just before lunchtime with a gearbox issue. Maldonado was soon sentback out on track but stopped again shortly after. He managed just 26 laps.

Elsewhere, Daniil Kvyat had a useful day at the wheel of Toro Rosso’s STR9, the Russian teenager recording 57 laps and posting a best time of 1:38.974 late on to finish seventh on the timesheet, ahead of Maldonado. Despite delays early in the morning Sergio Perez clocked up 57 laps for Force India and finished fifth-fastest. Marussia, meanwhile, had to carry out an engine on Max Chilton’s car when the Briton stopped after just four laps but the team was unable to complete the change before the end of the session.

Bahrain Test 1 – Day Three Times
1. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:34.263s 67 laps
2. Jenson Button McLaren 1:34.976s  +0.713s 103 laps
3. Felipe Massa Williams 1:37.066s  +2.803s 60 laps
4. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber 1:37.180s  +2.917s 96 laps
5. Sergio Perez Force India 1:37.367s  +3.104s 57 laps
6. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:37.476s  +3.213s 44 laps
7. Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 1:38.974s  +4.711s 57 laps
8. Pastor Maldonado Lotus 1:39.642s  +5.379s 26 laps
9. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1:40.781s  +6.518s 28 laps
10. Marcus Ericsson Caterham 1:42.130s  +7.867s 98 laps
11. Max Chilton Marussia 1:46.672s  +12.409s 4 laps
12. Valtteri Bottas Williams no time 55 laps

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1

i am still confused at the lack of successful integration between chassis and engine/unit! these cars have been planned for over probably one and a half years or so and they still cannot mate properly.

engine specs would’ve been co ordinated between renault/red bull from day one as RB are the ‘works’ team. how can such errors occur?

there are always teething problems but that is usually what they are, teething problems. this now seems to be more than that and despite what is being parlayed for public consumption within the four walls of viry/milton keynes there must be some serious ‘angst’ being vented.

hopefully it will be sorted prior to melbourne but i very much doubt it. the pathetic on track ‘lappage’ [is there such a word?] does not auger well for the renault powered teams.

2

Mercedes and Ferrari developed the chassis and power unit in house. Does that give those teams an advantage over the field? Were they able to consider system maintenance at an early point in the design process and accommodate this into the package? Information to this point suggest RB and others have to dig deep into the bowels of the car to access some components.

3

By mid-season we will hear, Fernando to Mercedes stories.

4

You think Alonso would head to a team where Hamilton’s already at? Anything’s possible, but he couldn’t wait to get out of McLaren asap.

More likely we’d hear Vettel to Merc stories.

5

Ferrari misses you , Aldo.

Hamilton will win the WDC. Hamilton is a bull dog in any car. In the best car, he will not lose.

6

My biggest pleasure would be to see all first to last team having a difference of only a second, i was so tored to see redbulls i was considering what mosley use to say about them supllying cars and let thr teams modify “single Formula” then again it was gonna be ugly forbmabufacturer no point of expressions really

7

James,

A quick answer. Is it Merc or Mac ? Who is faster in qualifying trim and race trim? Any new on upgrades for the cars?!

8

Next test will show

9

talking to people in europe and trying to put a fix on the red bull/renault problems is becoming elusive. the general feeling is that, to date, red bull cannot even remotely push the car. whether this relates to the MGU/K problem is not clear but is a favoured guess.

people are saying that it is heat/ packaging related and it may well be but,IMO, the problem is rather deep seated and well short of an easy fix. i will be surprised if they can get a suitable mod in place prior to melbourne. that will be a devastating blow to ricciardo’s maiden start for the RB team.

10

Australia is shaping up to be the most interesting season opener in years…I wouldn’t want to put a bet on any team winning the race with reliability being so unpredictable.

Having watched F1 stagnate in the last few years with one team holding a vice like grip on the championship, one wonders whether the FIA should drastically change the rules every other year to keep the sport more vibrant

11

As a firemarshal at Melbourne I’m looking forward to what will be a very interesting and possibly vert busy time …

12

Marco has been very clear that the contract with Renault has performance criteria. So there is an out if the unit doesn’t perform as it should.

13

Nothing by either Caterham, Lotus or Torro Rosso gives me reason to believe that Red Bull’s problems aren’t caused by the power unit. Yes, the overheating problems are due to the packaging being ill-suited for the power unit, but the 2014 Renault unit seems to be a beast in terms of cooling requirement.

It also doesn’t give Red Bull or the other Renault cars much hope, in a series that will eventually become fuel-limited even when the current cooling limitations are overcome.

With hindsight, it looks like Renault really didn’t have enough time to develop the new power unit, but they won’t be able to fix in a couple of weeks what they weren’t able to get right in a couple of years.

Of course, Dietrich Mateschitz is not going to spend hundreds of millions per year on a team stuck with a second-rate engine, so it will be interesting to see what the future brings.

The most immediate question is whether RB, Renault, and the other Renault teams have enough clout to force engine updates after homologation closes.

Lex Vettel? It will be fascinating.

14

It’s funny that we’re cheering on the possibility of Jenson and Lewis having a distinct car advantage this year. Isn’t that what Sebastian has been slated for over the past few years? Oh, hang on a minute, he’s not British.

I can’t think of anything worse that an obvious car advantage come the first few races. For all of Vettel’s domination, the quali times have been super close. Somehow, I think that there’ll be a massive gap, front to back in Melbourne. Hope I’m wrong!!

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I don’t understand your point. What is wrong or unusual about cheering for a fellow countryman? When you watch the Olympics, or the World Cup who do you cheer for? Surely you cheer for your own side. That’s all the British fans are doing when they cheer for LH or JB, completely normal and understandable behaviour. What is odd though, is the lack of popularity that SV has in his home country. Only just over 50,000 spectators turned up at the German GP on race day. If LH or JB were in such a dominant position in the WDC, do you imagine that would be the case at Silverstone?

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I don’t cheer someone on because they’re born in the same country as me. I want to see talent, regardless of nationality. Fernando is my man and as far as I’m aware, I haven’t got any Spanish blood in me. The UK forums have been saying over and over again, Vettel only wins because of the car. Rubbish!! If Lewis wins this years championship at at canter, with the rest of the grid bar Rosberg a distant second, no one will be mentioning the car.

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Oh c’mon, sure they will. If Hamilton got the same number of points as Vettel last year (397), then of course that would be mainly down to the car.

Of course, b/c the cars will be nowhere near as bulletproof as their 2006-13 predecessors, I don’t see how anyone will be able to come anywhere close to that. I think if any driver gets over 275 pts, they’ll be in with a great shout for the DWC.

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At Silverstone its not just British fans also because its held in the summer you have tourists there as well!

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And your point is ???? The German GP is only a week after the British GP – still summer , still tourist season. Rather nullifies your point wouldn’t you say.

Face it, SV just isn’t very popular, not even in his own country 🙂

20

4 years of domination by a single team from here on will again cause people to hope for someone different to be up front. We haven’t started the season yet! People are getting too far ahead of themselves.

If Merc or Ferrari are dominant, we should still get a good WDC race between teammates, unlike last season.

21

Speaking of that gap from front to back James, is there any talk at this time of relaxing the 104% (I think that is the number) rule early in the season to deal with issues relating to the new power unit development curve?

22

What’s the estimated gap soft-supersoft? ,5 sec?

23

James,

Can you see a situation early in the season where many teams choose to do very minimal running in free practice sessions so as to put a premium on saving engines?

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Red Bull might be doing minimal running during practice whether they want to or not 😉

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Conceivable, yes

They only have 5 power units per driver for the season

26

That doesn’t sound very many particularly if there are some blow ups. – It’s only a small engine highly pressed after all. Do you perceive there may be any relaxation with any of the constraints this year in practice such as fuel usage or indeed engine supply?

27

…”per driver”… Hmmm I never thought of this before, but does that mean a desperate team could bring in an extra set of 5 power units by changing to a different driver mid season?!

28

It’s per each car. If say Kimi hurt his back again, another driver would hop in the #7 car, and be restricted by the number of engines used already by the #7 car.

29

I for one would look forward to an all Brit battle for the championship this season, former team mates, never quite mates, now clear rivals.

30

Unless there are a number of clarevoyants on here I won’t be writing off Red Bull until they are mathematically unable to win the championship. I’m willing to bet they will be very grateful for the double points at the last race.

31

James:

Any word on what Honda might be up to this week? What kind of information could McLaren share with them?

32

Anything measurable on their telemetry

Merc have safe guarded themselves against IP loss to Honda

33

JA, could you elaborate on what steps Merc has taken? We can surmise certain things (e.g. them sealing the engines asap after any session), but are there any others?

34

James,

Why would Williams seemingly be wasting track time to practise pitstops? Surely those can be done at the factory or after hours?

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james what do u think about this

i am havin gut feeling that as soon as renault and redbull troubles are over , redbull will again be untoucheble cause its hard for me to digest that redbull are not able to do a single race stint or even continuouse 20 laps whereas mercedes and ferraris are doing wonders with their powerunit(compared to what renault has offered with their power unit).on the other hand catheram are looking far more reliable and have covered more mileage which itself is something hard to digest that a brilliant team like redbull finds it even hard to run their car whereas catheram are enjoying with laps round the circuit.it seems like redbulls dont want to give up some advantage from last year which they think can be used or recovered this year as well and will give them significant advantage and for the same reason they designed their car like wise which is giving them so much trouble now…even adrian newey has excepted that what renault are offering have variouse advantages but its really difficult to reach there…

so i personally think that mercedes , maclaren and ferrari will again have to moan that redbull doing something illegal as redbull have clear vision in their heads where thay want their car to be ….its not just aggressive packaging which is stopping them but theres a reason behing this exotic packaging which i believe is certainly more than aerodynamic purpose..with so many brilliant intelligent pepople working with such a harmony cant design a car which even dont run ..so i beleive its not a blunder by redbull .

what do u think?

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Red Bull have been too extreme in their design, especially with the problems Renault Is having

37

james, could you be a bit more precise in what you have proposed as being the problems?

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Perhaps Adrian Newey’s design priority for the RB10 was heat RETENTION. If the goal is to harvest the maximum amount of HEAT why would you overcool the car? Think these teams are balancing a large number of conflicting variables and RB has the compromise skewed a couple of percent the wrong way. Throw in a Renault ERS and fuel Management problem and from the outside it would appear you were in woeful shape. In retrospect I would suggest even with CFD the McLaren rear suspension may have been a bigger step into the unknown (considering Gearbox/suspension integration). If the end result is three or four races into the season Red Bull is harvesting energy more efficiently by living closer to the thermal edge they will go from Zero to Hero in the blink of an eye.

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james what do u think about this

i am havin gut feeling that as soon as renault and redbull troubles are over , redbull will again be untoucheble cause its hard for me to digest that redbull are not able to do a single race stint or even continuouse 20 laps whereas mercedes and ferraris are doing wonders with their powerunit(compared to what renault has offered with their power unit).on the other hand catheram are looking far more reliable and have covered more mileage which itself is something hard to digest that a brilliant team like redbull finds it even hard to run their car whereas catheram are enjoying with laps round the circuit.it seems like redbulls dont want to give up some advantage from last year which they think can be used or recovered this year as well and will give them significant advantage and for the same reason they designed their car like wise which is giving them so much trouble now…even adrian newey has excepted that what renault are offering have variouse advantages but its really difficult to reach there…

so i personally think that mercedes , maclaren and ferrari will again have to moan that redbull doing something illegal as redbull have clear vision in their heads where thay want their car to be ….its not just aggressive packaging which is stopping them but theres a reason behing this exotic packaging which i believe is certainly more than aerodynamic purpose..with so many brilliant intelligent pepople working with such a harmony cant design a car which even dont run ..so i beleive its not a blunder by redbull but they wanted their car to be with certain advantage and in due course it messed up which they rectifying

its just a conspiracy theory many be but what is ur idea about it

40

longest sentence in history

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When you’re on a roll you’re on a roll…

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This looks like we are moving from a era of red bull domination to mercedes domination…which isn’t exactly what the change rules were for.

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It’ll be fair to only have this discussion after 4 years of Merc domination.

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James – I hear that the power units will control the fuel usage and reduce power if they are likely to exceed what is allowed. Could this result in a car suddenly slowing down in a straight, would it be dangerous to those following?

45

I haven’t heard that, but if true it wouldn’t be any different to situations we’ve had where the driver in front suddenly has some kind of failure on the car and the following driver has to flick their car around them.

These guys are (mostly) professionals, they’ll handle it 🙂

46

Remember Jacques and Ralfie at Australia 2001? God, that was a horrific accident. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen, but you can never rule it out in the near future.

47

Wouldn’t have been fun, but at least now the drivers have a much, much better chance of walking away from something like that than in the old days.

48

All this nonsense about the timesheet. No one knows what fuel loads they’re running, what parts will materialise come Australia, who’s fastest through the speed trap, who’s going to have downforce issues, etc. And Merc, McLaren and Ferrari, although seemingly more reliable right now than the Renault runners, have had their share of issues. I think it’s likely that more than one team will score points in Australia for cars that don’t finish the race.

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Cars have to complete at least 90% distance to gain any points. It’s possible that some points won’t be given out.

50

I found Christian Horner’s comments regarding the different development paths for energy recovery systems taken by the engine manufacturers (Renault in particular) to be one of the most enlightening bits of information to come out of testing so far.

Have the energy recovery systems of the past few years been a part of the engine development freeze? Speaking of which, could we get a bit of detail about what areas the teams and engine manufacturers will be able to tinker with on the new units after the freeze and what is off limits? Are the regulations in this area as open to interpretation as others in F1?

51

Nice day from Lewis!

Though I still believe times are nothing – they are steadily closing to real life performance, but I still envision 1-2(may be even 3) sec improvement.

Only the next test will more or less accurately show the true order.

52

OMG,

Rosberg already shave a second today!

From one side – it is great, from the other – I though Lewis’ time will be the best… oh well… Can’t wait for the next tests!

53

They have signed up until the end of 2016. Not all the blame rests with Renault, as Red Bull has had a lot of input into the new PU:

“In a statement Renault said: “Within the new agreement, a technical joint venture will be set up, in which Red Bull Technology and Renault Sport F1 will collaborate to develop innovative technical solutions for the V6-based power unit that will be introduced from 2014. Red Bull Technology and Renault Sport F1 will contribute their respective know-how, experience and specialist personnel to the project to achieve a competitive and reliable power train to be used by Red Bull Racing and other customer teams.”

54

Was supposed to be a reply to comment #7. Don’t know what happened there?

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