Raikkonen’s problems, Grosjean’s gains: Why Indian Grand Prix turned out as it did
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Posted By: James Allen  |  29 Oct 2013   |  1:58 pm GMT  |  143 comments

The Indian Grand Prix was all set up to be a fascinating strategy battle with four of the top ten cars starting the race on the more durable medium compound tyres and six on the soft compound, which was short-lived. Everywhere there were different tactical approaches and possibilities, although some yielded good results, others didn’t work out.

Sadly incidents at the start meant that the fastest two of the outliers, Mark Webber and Fernando Alonso were not able to show what they might have done. A strong result for Sergio Perez, however, made the strategy look worthwhile and one wonders what might have been for Webber and Alonso.

Meanwhile the two Lotus drivers went about the race in completely different ways but came together near the end as both ended up trying a one stop strategy. It worked for Romain Grosjean, who scored an impressive podium, but not for Kimi Raikkonen.

Here we analyse in depth how and why the race turned out as it did.


Pre-race expectations

All teams have strategy computers, which model the race beforehand and give a likely outcome. On Sunday morning many had Webber winning the race by three to four seconds with Vettel catching him at the end. The key to it was how hard it would be to overtake and come back through the field for the drivers like Vettel, Rosberg and Hamilton, who were starting the race on the soft tyre and would be forced to pit early. Most estimates said that the soft tyres would last around five or six laps only at the start of the race. Because of this Webber, Alonso and the two McLaren drivers had opted to qualify on the medium. Although it was one second a lap slower than the soft, it was a much better race tyre. By qualifying a better than expected fourth, Webber managed to put himself into a position to win the race, if he could use the clear air after Vettel, Rosberg and Hamilton pitted to push hard, while Vettel would be coming back through traffic after his first stop.

Vettel had gone for the soft tyre in qualifying so he could stay out of trouble at the start, which turned out to be prophetic. Meanwhile the Mercedes paid went that route because they had been very fast and consistent on the soft tyre in their Friday long runs. It looked promising for a strong podium for them, so they wanted to maximise their advantage.

Meanwhile to throw another strategic dimension into the mix, on race morning Pirelli issued an advisory note that teams were not to do more than 15 laps on a set of soft tyres and 35 laps on a set of mediums. Ferrari and Red Bull were both struggling to get them to last.

The FIA refused to enforce Pirelli’s guidance, leaving it to the teams to decide how long to run the tyre. In the end Adrian Sutil set his fastest lap of the race on his 18th lap on the softs, while Kimi Raikkonen did 51 laps on a set of mediums. For Sutil and Romain Grosjean, ignoring Pirelli was central to their strategy and their result.


Webber’s plan fails at the first hurdle; Vettel comes through

Although the simulations said he should win, starting fourth on the medium tyre, it didn’t work for Webber because he got tangled up at the start with Alonso and dropped to seventh place, behind Hulkenberg and Raikkonen. His opportunity was lost at that point. His strategy relied on running in clear air at the front while time was being lost for Vettel in traffic.

By the time he hit the front he had only half the gap he needed over Vettel, who carved his way through the traffic better than expected. Once Red Bull strategists saw that Webber and Alonso’s strategies were compromised, they pitted Vettel on lap two to get him off the unfancied soft tyre. From here he had 58 laps to do on two new sets of medium tyres. He split the race evenly, doing two 29 lap stints.

The key to his race – and Rosberg’s race too – was being able to come through traffic after the early stop. Vettel was 17th on lap two and back up to the lead by lap 29. He had to pass all the medium tyre runners, who could otherwise hold him up by running long, and he did so.

Webber meanwhile, knowing that he was racing for second place, pitted on lap 28 for a short stint on softs, then pitted again on lap 32, as he had an opportunity to slot into a gap allowing him to run in free air ahead of Ricciardo. This gave him 28 laps to do on medium tyres to the chequered flag. This had secured him second place but then alternator failure ended his afternoon.


Perez standout drive and what might have been for Alonso

Sergio Perez was the most notable illustration of what might have been for Webber and Alonso as he ran the medium tyre in qualifying and at the start and managed to go from ninth on the grid to fifth, his best result of the season. He kept the medium tyre lapping competitively until lap 28 and then did a short stint on softs, in clear air, pitting on lap 33, rejoining behind Hamilton, but ahead of Hulkenberg. As Hamilton’s tyres faded in the closing stages, the man who replaced him at McLaren was able to pick him off.

Alonso, meanwhile broke his front wing and damaged his front suspension in the opening lap melee and his strategy was compromised as he made a forced early stop, losing the strategic advantage of starting on the medium tyre. He was unable to progress back through the field and ended the day not scoring any points.

In hindsight, he might have been better to qualify on the soft and do the same strategy as Rosberg. He set the second fastest time in Qualifying session 2, so if he had just repeated that lap time in Qualifying session 3 he would have been third on the grid. From there a podium was possible with a clean start like the one team mate Massa got on the soft tyre.


Contrasting Lotus strategies and what might have been for Massa

There was some controversy at Lotus in this race as Kimi Raikkonen refused to accept team orders and let his team mate Romain Grosjean through four laps from the end. Raikkonen’s tyres were six laps older than the Frenchman’s and had passed their best. They touched, Grosjean went off track but managed to repass the Finn and went on to score an impressive third place, from 17th on the grid while Raikkonen finished seventh. So how did Lotus end up in this situation?

The original plan was for Raikkonen to two-stop from sixth on the grid and for Grosjean to one stop. Both started on soft tyres, but Grosjean’s were new as he had messed up qualifying and was down in 17th place on the grid. This would prove important as he was able to run a longer first stint than his team mate and that made the second stint a more manageable length.

He managed to get to lap 13 before stopping which was ideal, as he then did 47 laps on the mediums. He picked up places when the likes of Gutierrez, Hulkenberg and Di Resta made their second stops. All the good work to set up the result was done in that opening stint.

Where Grosjean was lucky was when Felipe Massa and Ferrari failed to trap him on lap 29. Massa needed to make a second stop and had a 23 second lead over Grosjean. If Massa had pitted then he would have trapped Grosjean behind him and would then have been on fresh tyres, while Grosjean’s were older and needing to make the finish. So the Lotus would not have been able to attack.

Ferrari did not take this opportunity and so when Massa pitted on lap 30, he came out behind Grosjean. This was the turning point of Grosjean’s race.

Mercedes saw it. Rosberg was behind Massa in this phase of the race and they pitted Rosberg to cover Grosjean on lap 27, trapping the Frenchman. Massa could have been second in other words, but clearly didn’t feel he could make the finish on one set of tyres for 33 laps.

Grosjean lost some time behind Gutierrez between laps 21 and 25 and this cost him a shot at beating Rosberg to second place.

Raikkonen in contrast, had set out to stop twice and made his first stop on lap seven. This brought him out behind Hulkenberg and Di Resta on relatively new mediums. He could not pass because he was suffering a repeat of a rear brake problem he has had a few times before. When he closed up on the car in front his rear brakes overheated and didn’t perform as normal.

Raikkonen and the team had discussed the possibility of a Plan B, should he find it hard to pass traffic on a two stop. The alternative was to run one stop, which is what they then agreed to do. The gamble was that if it worked he could get a podium and if it didn’t he wouldn’t finish lower than seventh, which is what he would have got had he stayed in traffic on a two stop.

But having stopped on lap seven, he needed to do 53 laps on a set of medium tyres. It was an extreme gamble, but he and Lotus have scored some good results in the past this way.

This time it proved to be five laps too many, as his performance dropped off around lap 55. Losing four positions in the next three laps, he had a big enough gap to Di Resta to be able to pit on lap 58 for a fresh set of softs and stay in seventh place.


Force India back in the points

It was a good result for Force India on home soil after a barren spell recently which has allowed Sauber to close up on them in the championship. This result arrested that march a little. Force India now has a 23 point margin with three races to go.

Starting 12th Di Resta finished 8th on a two stop plan with a very early first stop. While Sutil started 13th and finished 9th on a one stop strategy.

Di Resta’s strategy was to start on the soft tyre, come in on lap one and then divide the race into two halves on new medium tyres. It meant that he ran in clear air for almost the whole race and it worked well. The team was disappointed not to beat Raikkonen to seventh, but Lotus were able to pit Raikkonen on lap 58 as his tyres were falling off a cliff and get out just ahead of Di Resta.


The UBS Race Strategy Report is written by James Allen with input and data from several of the leading teams’ strategists and from Pirelli

RACE HISTORY CHART

Kindly supplied by Williams F1 Team

Compare the yellow traces of Raikkonen and Grosjean (dotted), both initially careful on the medium tyre in second stint, look at the contrast in performance in the closing stages

Note also the time Grosjean loses behind Gutierrez between laps 21 and 25.

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1

Wondered why, given that Grosjean had shown that in fact, in Sunday’s conditions, the Softs could last for 15-20 laps, RB only allowed Webber a handful of laps on the Softs before dragging him back in for Mediums again. Surely the RB doesn’t destroy them that quickly … could MW have got closer to SV if left on the Softs for longer (not that t mattered in the long run).

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You see that Seb. also did 2 laps on softs, and in the graph over also see that Webber wasn´s faster on softs than in mediums.

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That Austin comment is funny by Permane, if he really did say that since Raikkonen is much faster than Alonso on RAW pace. Not a contest. It is just a matter of giving Kimi the ideal front end, steering sensitivity that he needs. I think Kimi is, categorically speaking, too good for Lotus as they can’t even fix a simple steering problem as Mclaren did after 2002…

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Dear James. I live out of Europe and have been reading many european F1 sites (which I will not tell but you can imagine), since I can read English German and Spanish. It is very interesting that many of the journalists induce conspiracy theories about Red Bull in many ways. Some state that Webber is not beeing properly provided, other say that the RB9 is illegal, and the FIA controls are failing on purpose. I am very impressed by the quality and accuracy of your information that is also keeping away of such theories that impressively are being repeated thoughtless by too many people. For all this I congratulate you!!

5

Have you seen? Rush pulled in nearly double the budget at the box office already. Here come DVD/On Demand sales now.

Fantastic!

I was hoping it would do well, and it really has.

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Yeah, not sure if it has. You’re talking worldwide box office? In N.America it’s sitting at around $26m, with a budget of $35m. So yeah, worldwide it will recoup its money, although that’s total box office … what’s the final cut that goes to the studio?

I saw it on the weekend, and liked it, good movie. Took the wife, and while she’s not a racing fan, she still liked the human drama story it told.

Oh man, that tube down the throat?!?! Agh!!

7

Funny that a few F-bombs, cig logos and a tube down throat during graphic treatment shots and yes…human drama you can learn from = R.

But mindless murder and decapitation – we’re good with PG rating. As long as you don’t drop the F-bomb while you’re taking off a few limbs, welcome all you 12 year olds!

Who’s responsible for this agenda anyway? And why is it OK to show gun shootings, decapitations, suicide etc. in TV ad shows? I was watching a game with the kids, they cut in with an ad for some dramatic show episode, guy puts a hand gun to his head in the commercial, pull the trigger, they cut away. And they wonder why people cut their cable!?

At least during an F1 feed all we see is car ads, oil ads, ED medication ads and occasional Kimi after a comb attacked his hair pushing Degree deodorant. It must me just a luck of the draw that the time windown F1 is shown in probably restricts the ads they can show 8PM or later.

Boy…I’m ranty today. It’s all Random’s fault. I would never have thought Random o all people would not have seen the movie month into screening.

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Damn I just wasted another comment. 567 to go.

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In my further defense where I am they only had about four screenings in total 🙁

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Can you handle Kimi after a vicious comb attack?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5ejB9SLypQ

Mr. Rikkonen, based on your clean hair cut, we are pleased to extend you membership in our country club.

11

I was all set to watch it at the cinema yesterday, but had to miss it due to unforeseen circumstances.

Now looking forward to the Blu-ray release 🙂

12

4 screenings? Even more reasons to make it to one!

And yes…why are you commenting? FIA has your comment telemetry and knows your GP weekend average. Don’t try to be sneaky with short comments. 🙂

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Oh Random…not you!

On behalf of FIA I’m having you reprimanded! Also a 10 comment penalty for next GP.

You’re lucky you admitted your indiscretion, or it woukd have been a one GP suspension.

Look…have you ever seen me use this emoticon? 🙁

Never!

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I think in my defense having to miss the movie in the first place is punishment enough.

Still, I have to recognise your authority in this matter and accept the punishment handed out.

10 Comment penalty for the next GP. So that leaves me with…give me a second to work this out…yep, about 568 give or take 😉

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Not in the US.

It’s done well in UK

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Hey America!

Are you going to let UK win?

I guess British fans really are better than US fans. Is it all vampires and hang overs in the US? 🙂

Let’s go U.S.A.! There is still time to take your significant other on a date this weekend. Come on, 4K projection, you’ve never seen F1 on a big screen like that in this res. Worse case go to the 3 stopper fall-back strategy with DVD, BluRay, OnDemand!

Don’t let UK fans win!

17

You know there’s such a thing as being too competitive right? 😉

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I don’t think so. Besides, I’d much rather see a beautiful lap than a perfect one. That’s we watch in the first place.

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Well done to Grosjean

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I never comment, but I just wanted to say how much I enjoy these post-race strategy posts. Together with the pre-race analysis which you do (which identifies pit-stop times, percentage of lap spent braking, etc.) they are my favourite of your posts. I can follow some of the variations during the race but it’s impossible to keep track of everyone, so sometimes I’m wondering: “how did that happen for X?”. Thank you!

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Thanks!

22

Very interesting…thanks for this JA.

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Im totally disenchanted with Lotus and their inability to make effective strategy calls. We all know that since his 2014 plans – Raikkonen had become their de facto. No2 driver- which is all well and good if they weren’t fighting a tight battle for P2/3 and critical championship points- which no one needs more right now than cash strapped Lotus. Had Lotus pitted Kimi around lap 47/8 he would have undercut Hulkenberg – who was 21.8sec behind- worse case Kimi would have passed him when Hulk pit on 51.

The race for the podium was over when they left out at after lap 50- he was in no mans land and the decision on whether to stay out or come in was irrelevant at that point regardless who made it- The Team needed to decide at lap 45 and no later than 48. In that window 2-2.5 + sec (maybe 3 on softs) a lap improvement on new rubber would have given at least 10 seconds race advantage and fresh rubber to attack.

Grosjeans move on the outside of turn 1 was truly ridiculous- anyone with half an ounce of sense would not attempt to overtake a car with 50 lap old on the outside when all he had to do was pull into the inside and use better traction on exit ( this would have left Massa baulked in the approach also).. Despite his excellent drive up to that point, It just shows he lacks the decision making of a champion and because of his shock/surprise actually spurred on that idiotic comment from Alan Permaine. I’ve said it before, it’s not the first time Lotus have made wrong strategy calls- Germany/ Hungary – Kimi had a real shot at Seb at Hungary – but several laps pondering when to move the Frenchman out of the way Lost them that chance, Less so in Hungary chasing Hamilton but still an opportunity that was again buried by Lotus “strategy” showing otherwise.

Here we had a lead driver fight for less than one corner ( possibly without clear informed feedback)and he’s told to “get out if the f/ing way” (otherwise he would not have said “no need to f/ing yell” ) Absolute disparity and inappropriate use or profanity !

Strategies are fantastic because you can correlate so much data in split seconds, but they cannot account for Unforseen circumstances, experienced drivers, -drivers making mistakes or competitors failing , safety cars chances etc..Hence you need people who understand the data but understand people and their abilities equally when making the strategy calls– you quick decisive thinking – not morons yelling at a WC moved out of the way only 2 corners later. Red Bull and Ferrari are second to none at this and the other are a fair way behind. Lotus had a genuine shot at P4 with Kimi instead settled for P7 just to ensure P3 for Grosjean.- I think they were taking lessons from RBR an I think the French connection are hugging and kissing all round ! Best decision Kimi ever made to get out of there despite the great opportunity and unrivalled success on/ off track both have achieved.

Further I wonder how attractive Lotus are to new investors after that race…mmm maybe not so ! Well done Permaine

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+1000

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I still wonder why Web was not going for hard-hard-soft as the chance of sc was very small and would have has a new set with lowest fuel load stint of the race, able to attack for the win.

Of course, being a strategist for RBR I would have done the same thing, avoiding Web to chase Seb at the end with quicker tyres and a high risk of an accident (Web at this point has nothing to lose ), and surely justify the hard-soft-hard on the SC risk….

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Alberto Martínez

This is the way Vettel picked up places from lap3 to lap 19

———————————————–

Lap 3: Overtakes Chilton (p16)

Lap 4: Overtakes Bianchi (p15)

Lap 5: Pitstop from Hulkenberg (p14)

Lap 6: Overtakes Bottas & Pitstop Button (p12)

Lap 7: Overtakes Gutierrez & Pitstop Rosberg – Raikkonen (p9)

Lap 8: Pitstop Massa -Hamilton -Maldonado (p6)

Lap 9: Overtakes Sutil (No opposition because of 1stop strategy) (p5)

Lap10: Overtakes Grosjean (No opposition because of 1stop strategy) (p4)

Lap12: Overtakes Ricciardo (Let him pass) (p3)

Running in clear air

Lap19: Overtakes Perez (No opposition because of strategy) (p2)

Running in clear air

———————————————–

Overtakings: Chilton, Bianchi, Bottas, Gutierrez, Sutil, Grosjean, Ricciardo, Perez.

Tough overtakings: Chilton, Bianchi, Bottas and Gutierrez.

I think Vettel carved his way through the traffic better than expected because most of the opposition either was in a different strategy (they had to pit before he had to overtake them) or they let him pass to not destroy their tyres and achieve their strategies (Sutil, Grosjean, Perez).

Moreover, with the RB9 being the class of the field, it doesn´t seem too difficult to overtake Chilton, Bianchi, Bottas, Gutierrez. Probably the former was his most difficult overtaking of the day.

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Very good summation. Did you mean to say Chilton was his hardest overtake, or Gutierrez? ‘Cos if you meant Gutierrez, you would have used ‘the latter’ instead of ‘the former’. I’m guessing that’s what you meant, b/c the Saubers had crazy top speed again.

Overtakes like that really do give the race more of a time trial feel.

Have we had any on-track passes for the lead this year? Was Grosjean in the lead when Vettel passed him in Japan, or was that for P2 at the time? I can’t think of any, at least none that were real tussles for the lead like Austin last year.

I guess Malaysia, but some nefariousness involved there, with Webber having turned down his engine.

I haven’t gone over every race, just doin’ this off the top of my head right now.

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Alberto Martínez

I meant Gutierrez. The Sauber had good traction and above all the best top speed in the race.

As you say I should have written ‘the latter’ but my English in not perfect. Sorry for that!

Cheers

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Yeah, but as you you can see from the graph, and probably remember from the race Alonso gut stucked behind the same Gutierrez for quite some time. Those are the small things that make the difference.

It was one faultless drive again from Vettel and we should give him all the credit for that.

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Alberto Martínez

I agree with the fact that Vettel drove a faultless drive. I don´t pretend to understimate his achievements!

Nevertheless, its also true that overtaking in a car which is the class of the field is always easier: Let´s not forget that the RB9 has massive amounts of traction and downforce, and this year they got over the top speed problem from previous years

With my comment I only pretend to show that in many occasions people don´t analyse the race deep enough and intend to shred light to biased statements like this one from Helmut Marko

“I don’t know how many people Seb overtook – just to the people who say he can’t overtake!”

Best regards.

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Clarks4WheelDrift

Fair points there when the next Vettel fanatic declares he won the race from the back by overtaking everyone 😉

It helps that Button and Alonso were knocked back so he never met them on track, then again that was their risk qualifying on the slower tyre and starting in the carbon-fibre zone with Webber backing into them all.

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thanx, i wish i read your posting earlier.

i also already studied the graphs to find out who he realy had to “overtake”

not that many this time – great strategy again

greetings

33

Grosjean’s engine was acting up again so the Lotus pitwall was facing the prospect of a late-race DNF plus Kimi’s tires going off translating into zero points. So I’d cut Permane some slack on his excitability.

See http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/10/29/grosjean-had-repeat-of-singapore-engine-problem-in-india-2/

34

Strange, nobody talked about Kimi’s rear brake issue except Kimi himself …. Perhaps somebody just tried too hard to justified his emotional outburst ?

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So, according to this it was P7 for Kimi either way (one stop, two stop). Maybe less shouting though.

36

Am I right to remember that one, possibly both Lotus had fuel issues, and that they both stopped at the pit exit after crossing the finish line? I think I remember Kimi being told to “save fuel without losing time” (hah!) which can’t have helped.

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Tangential topic: Its frustrating to see how the issue between Permane and Kimi continues to be ignored by the English media. What would be the outcry if any of the other world champions on the grid got abused by a senior team member like that?

Grosjean panics and tries to overtake a car with shot tires on the outside of a 150+ mph corner. And Permane’s response is what? Abusing the guy who’s the very reason Lotus is in the constructor’s fight in the first place?

Lotus/Enstone is really behaving like a jilted lover isn’t it? First the humping squirrels then Permane’s bizarre comments after Singapore and now this.

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Maybe there’s nothing worth writing about it and keeping objective.

But maybe write about how Lotus built a great public image in the social media (by leveraging Kimi’s personality) and now they’re needlessly flushing it down the toilet. They’ve not even made the cash deals yet.

Strategy is not their speciality, whether in or out of the track.

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roman is good but nothing else

Now we have seen who’s lotus driver number one…but how many overtakes ramain done in india? I think not so many and if he doesn’t get easy passes, he is scream to the team radio like the baby. Maybe the old crasjaen is coming back….

40

Fantastic article; the best yet!

Thanks for being here, guys.

41

This is why I have followed F1 for a while now. I enjoy the beauty of the cars, the drivers performances, the skills not just the drivers, the technology, the what I really like about F1 are the strategies involve. A battle within a battle. After the race it is easier to see which strategy would have brought the better result. In the case of Kimi though, I feel as many who have already posted the opinion, that Lotus fail Kimi. We of course, will never know for certain that pitting would have helped him finish higher up, but still it seems very probable. James’ report shows how good a race this GP was, if there was a need for those who follow it live. Marc

42

I’m sorry. But those guys at Lotus pit-wall supposed to be analytic geniuses and they are paid big money to perform. This is why people expect them to be competent at what they are doing instead of letting their emotions run high. Considering that bad calls are consistent feature of Lotus pit-wall, I dont see how peoples dissatisfaction with their actions is misplaced.

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During the radio brodcasts Kimi told his engineer that he was going to try one stopping as his brakes were overheating if he got too close to the car in front so he couldn’t pass anyone.

If Kimi had stopped again he would have ended up in the same position. By taking a risk on his tyres lasting it was possible to end up higher but unfortunately that didn’t happen.

I love the strategy of F1 racing too:) There’s nothing else quite like it.

44

Oh the karma sauce!

Conspiracy or not, Brazil 2012, start, WEB covering VET and not ALO…

India 2013, race to determine Championship, start, WEB and ALO get too entangled for comfort, only to “crash and burn” in terms of results.

Oh,Karma… you do bite, don’t you 😀

45

Does anybody know where I can find Indian GP radio transcripts? Is there any official website?

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I usually follow @F1PitRadio on Twitter for that.

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Thanks a lot! Bart

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of course I mean “team radio” transcripts

Cheers, Bart

49

what an incredibly awesome shakedown of the Indian GP, James!!!

have not yet seen just how many passes on track Seb did. prior to the race, he downplayed the tire strategy as if to say “I am King and will deliver”!

and that, he surely did… in fact, he has won the last 6 races with totally different strategies – the mark of a true champion… and his post-race antics and comments have endeared me even more to his likeability 🙂

one more thing:

the comments by your fans to this blog are mega incredible!!!

long live JA!!!

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A good strategy for Kimi would have been to stop for softs around the time the tyres started deteriorating. He would have come out right behind Hamiltion, Massa and Grosjean and would have had a very good chance of getting past them on fresher tyres. By lapping faster than the trio till that point on older tyres he had given himself that chance. But this is not the first time Lotus have shown themselves totally incapable of thinking on their feet.

On top of that, the extremely rude, totally unprofessional barking of team orders with expletives at their first driver. They love to potray image cool image but the deserved backlash on their own supposed official fan page has put them in their place. Should make them realize to what extent it is based on leveraging Raikkonen’s popularity. As if their inability to honour their dues on a timely basis had not exposed their unprofessionalism enough.

Hope Hulkenberg is able to sign for a better team than this one.

51

And why 10 person looking monitor, if drivers have to make all decision when they driving 300 km/h.

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Mark Webber:

After all these years he didn’t know that the team strategy for Seb is the best one to follow. Webbs should simply have said, ‘whatever he’s having I’ll have the same’.

Also he took the first three corners the way Grosjean used to, collecting ALO, RAI and maybe others in a few short seconds. Didn’t exactly help.

Did his fastest lap from stricken parked car to paddock, and the very nice young RB PR person had trouble keeping up. I think she tripped on his heels……

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What works for Vettel never works for Webber. Just look at Japan it was India in reverse he had only to over take one car which Vettel pulled off even without DRS(he activated the drs only after he was alongside the lotus and not behind) Webber isnt the best overtaker that is why he was all smiles after the DNF because he knew he had the best strategy and it was seconded by the race simulations of all the teams. Unfortunately as usual he had a horrid start and Vettel just sliced through the field. If it were other way around Vettel would have still won with Webber stuck behind Grosjean or Massa

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In a straight fight, Webber knew he wasn’t going to beat Vettel. Vettel would take pole and then just disappear. Webber didn’t have the outright pace to match him. That’s why he went for the alternate strategy, because starting on the soft tyre would force Vettel back into the back early on along with the other option users. Webber would be left out the front to start opening up a gap while the others battled away to take positions back. This isn’t any kind of after-the-fact interpretation of events; Webber quite openly said he knew he had to try something different.

What stopped it from working was Webber’s messy start. In the end, he was still comfortably looking at 2nd until his alternator died. Given that 2nd was the best he’d have been able to do on the “normal” strategy, it wasn’t really working out too bad.

55

Why F1 does not have youtube channel? MotoGP, Nascar, V8 Supercars, DTM… they all have videos! [mod]

56

greedy bernie ..

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Hats off: RB have never failed to find the shortest route for Seb from lights to flag.

Whatever other teams like to pass off as ‘strategy’ is a very poor imitation. Ferrari may do a better job than most, but are not really on the same plane as RB. This will have to change next year. I’m guessing [hoping] there are plans ……

58

No matter what strategy they give to Seb, he generally manages to make it look like an inspired choice.

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Well… maybe not Canada 2012.

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