JA on F1 Podcast #2 – Kimi, Lotus, Ferrari drivers and analysis of McLaren’s problems
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Posted By: James Allen  |  29 Mar 2013   |  4:54 pm GMT  |  83 comments

Welcome to the second JA on F1 podcast, perfectly timed for you to download and enjoy over the Easter Holiday period.

In a packed edition we hear from the ever-popular Kimi Raikkonen, winner of the first race of the season, on what he thinks of his fans, what he does on his days off and that infamous radio call to “leave me alone” in Abu Dhabi.

We get the inside track on Lotus’s sensational start to the season from to the man behind that famous win in Melbourne, Lotus technical director James Allison. He also explains what it is like to deal with the 2013 Pirelli tyres

We get the thoughts of Ferrari drivers Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa on what lies ahead in 2013 and Massa explains why he is right back on the pace

JA on F1 Technical adviser and Former Williams chief engineer Mark Gillan explains why McLaren’s problems may take some time to fix and gives us an expert opinion on the Red Bull spat as well as analysis of which teams are looking good this year.

And we speak to the man behind F1 in Schools – an engineering challenge endorsed by Bernie Ecclestone and the F1 teams which is now reaching millions of children around the world.

We think this is one of the best podcasts we’ve done so far, let us know your thoughts.

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0.00 Introduction
1.38 Lotus Technical Director James Allison
8.38 Kimi Raikkonen talks about life away from the track
11.55 Former Williams Chief Enginner Mark Gillan on Raikkonen and Lotus
14.04 Ferrari drivers Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa
19.36 Mark Gillan progress report on F1 teams and drivers
29.05 F1 in Schools founder Andrew Denford
34.00 Wrap up

Duration 34.30

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For me, Kimi tries to act ‘too kool for skool.’ Having said that this 2013 reincarnation seems a little more respectful to the sport and fans but still totally suspicious and dismissive of the press-pack (slash) hacks, and pseudo F1 experts , which I think is a good thing.

As for his racing ability? I think the Pirelli’s have put paid to any racing in F1 as we know it.

IMHO, history will look unfavourably on this era of driving to a delta and quite frankly is a phony crock of c#~p.

So intra-team comparisons are totally worthless and misleading.


Well Kimi to Redbull? Becareful for what you wish for because a team of champions doesn’t always gaurantee a champion team….might back fire!!!!!!!This would actually cause the fall of Redbull.


It makes sense to have Kimi at Red Bull. This way they will always have a Champion in their team in case Vettel moves to Ferrari.


Kimi to RB?

Things can happen fast in F1. Very uncertain Webb will still be there next year. Already Herr Matechitz has mentioned Kimi as a “candidate”. Kimi has not yet committed to Lotus for 2014.

The dream ticket of Vettel/Raikkonen may not be far off.


James whats your take on rumours about Kimi joining Redbull next season, do you feel its likely? And if it is do you think he would match up well with Vettel?


We would be seeing alot more Red Bull 1-2 & not always one way either if Kimi was in the team.


Not surprising after what happened in Sepang. If I were them I would go for Kimi or Hulkenberg



Is Webber now ‘toxic’ to Red Bull?. There seems to be a lot of talk about it now that after only two races, he will be pushed out of Red Bull whether he likes it or not.

I think he has been a worthy employee and deserved only what was offered to him however was not delivered for whatever reasons.


He’s very highly valued by Newey and Mateschitz in particular


Yeah you’re right James Kimi would push Vettel and keep him alert whilst he’ll just race and not moan like Webber, is Hulkenberg ready? He seems devastatingly fast sometimes but racecraft he seems to lack.


As always, thanks for an excellent show!


Hmm…DM saying Kimi a candidate for 2014.

James, any truth in that?


A great podcast as ever James, keep them coming!

Slightly off topic, but what do you make of the news that Red Bull has suspended Vettel for China? Apparently Buemi is replacing him…

Here’s the link – http://real-motorsport.com/2013/04/01/vettel-suspended-for-chinese-gp-replaced-by-buemi/


Check the date of the article


Check the author of the article!


Haha I also cannot believe you thought that was true. Especially the bit, “he will have access to new components and first call on strategy” ! Lol


Wow. Did you actually believe that? Most f1 internet content is written by people who know less than I do, which isn’t very much! Stick to Allen, Saward, and Anderson on the Beeb site.


Hi James,

This is very off-topic, but I was wondering if you caught the GP2 season opener last weekend in Malaysia, and if so, what were your thoughts?


Good win for Colletti, but he’s been around a while.

Calado looked good on Saturday, less so on Sunday


Hi James,

I again find myself asking whether you could provide a transcript of the Podcasts…not all of us have the real option of listening to them…


Why not?


More commonly than you might think, some people’s lifestyles don’t afford them much opportunity to listen to 30-45 minutes of audio and being able to read it would be more convenient. Also there are people with hearing problems.

I’ve transcribed a few dialogue-heavy podcasts before – if you’d like it done for JAonF1, I’d be happy to help out.


Always a great listen. But when I download on android, they usually time out. So I have to listen on soundcloud which drains my battery, or download onto laptop, then drag them onto my phone. All other podcasts download straight to my phone ok. Not sure why, probably a soundcloud issue.


James can you tell me about how much TV revenues F1 gets.

If what I have dug up is true then NASCAR’s current 5.something billion US dollar deal is pretty comparable to F1. About half a billion a year. Please tell me this is not true. I know tons of F1 fans are not in premium markets like West Europe and North America but I thought Bernie’s emerging market strategy was brilliant.

I know F1 has very small number of events so I am sure that is part of it. 19 for F1 and 38 (i think) for NASCAR.

I might have to jump off a bridge. JK


As a west coast north america F1 fan, these podcasts are like an oasis in the dessert. The NA media does not give F1 much coverage. Thanks.



As an avid NA fan, I enjoy these podcasts and the articles. The quality of the analysis is unmatched on the other sites IMO. I discovered James via the analysis on ITV’s website a few years back, and happy it’s continuing here.


Well I found James Allison’s comments on tyres interesting, but from a spectators point of view I coundn’t disagree more. It may from an engineering and strategists point of view to be great having cars go around the circuit in a very controlled way so that energy input into the tyres is kept within a certain bandwidth, but it’s boring, furthermore it means that given a leading car doing that it becomes impossible for others to challenge. Kimi Raikkonen may have been very skilful with his throttle control and braking, but so what! As is so blatantly obvious it becomes a tyre strategy and conservation exercise, and not a full on race. Technical challenge it is, exciting racing it isn’t!


I completely agree with Richard : we want a RACING series not a tyre control series.

Looking at the politics of F1, at huge expense, they are switching to small turbo engines for reasons of political correctness – basically so they can be seen to be using engines more like those of road cars and be more economical on fuel.

However, at the same time they are perfectly happy to be using very expensive tyres that have to be treated with the greatest of care and last 30 miles – or less !!!

The sheer lunacy of this strategy seem lost on Pirelli.

They can hardly build an advertising campaign around the transfer of their F1 Technology for the road, can they ?


IMHO F1 tyres have had very little to do with road tyres for about 60 years, and zilch for about 45. Apart from being 200mph adverts, of course. If you want road car based racing, on road car based tyres, it’s out there, but not too many people are watching it. I’m enjoying 2013, tyre strategy included. Just hope the Red Bulls win a bit less, and it stays competitive.


I think both Richard and Monza71 both need to work out what they mean by “racing”.

Current F1 is far more than simply tyre management. It has at least as much, if not more, to do with engine life – 3 races on one engine is far harder than 1/2 a race on a set of tyres.

Stop blaming Pirelli for doing what they were asked to do! Blame those that did the asking.

I would like to know more about what they are doing for next year. Will the new engines be expected to last races? That is likely to mean engine failures.

With so much more power (engine plus ERS) going through the tyres on corner exit what are Pirelli doing for next year? When and how are they going to be able to test for such changes?

As for making this year’s tyres last it would seem Kimi can make them last as well as going fast – so why can’t others?

There will always be something that restricts the racing. Recent regulation changes have made F1 so reliable they have to have false dilemmas such as tyres. Many of the great historic races were edge of the seat stuff due to manual gear changes – waiting to see who would miss a gear change mid corner and wreck their gear box.

Next year should be fun for some as there are so many unknowns. Obviously there will be many howls of protest next year as form books are re-written.


These are good questions. James, can you do a piece on this when the time is right?


I’m not blaming Pirelli, I fully understand that they are only doing what they have been asked to do.

My point is that while a huge amount of money is being spent on new engines more related to road car use, F1 tyres have gone completely in the opposite direction to the requirements of road cars.

We need to do away with all artificial limitation factors like tyres and engine life restrictions so that the races are based on car and driver performance. We surely don’t need more than an average of two scheduled pit stops per race so tyres need be designed with this in mind.

There should not be a problem with engines and gearboxes as long as the number of races they are required to do is commensurate with them being used at 100% power. They should therefore be capable of doing maybe 4 rather than 5 races between rebuilds.


power from the engines will not be much more than the current v8s so it shouldn’t have any adverse effects on the tyres.


Red Bull has the results behind them to claim that they have had the best driver line up over the past 3/4 years. But as you hinted JA, I believe Mercedes has the best driver line up in F1. Hamilton & Rosberg are both young as well. The way Mercedes is developing and gathering talented people, there is no doubt one of these two drivers will be in the hunt for championship much sooner than we expected. I am backing Rosberg for his ability to manage tyres, conserve fuel & pace over Hamilton. The only way Mercedes can screw up the momentum is by getting rid of Brawn. Brawn is irreplaceable in F1 history. His has been successful because of his long term plan for any team that he worked for. Mercedes team is benefiting from Brawn’s hard work & plan over the past 3 years. So, I hope that Brawn sticks around to see one of his drivers win the wdc. We must also remember that today’s mercedes was not even going to exist if Brawn did not take over from Honda.


We must also remember that today’s mercedes was not even going to exist if Brawn did not take over from Honda..

You make it sound as if RB was the only person trying to buy the team from Honda. Wasn’t a certain Bernard Eccelstone also trying to buy the team? If the reports I have read are correct, he was none too pleased at not getting his prize either. Maybe that would account for his support of SV and RBR.


Bernie supports Vettel is because he knows Seb is the future of F1 and is the benchmark all other drivers strives to beat, if Kimi joined Redbull Seb would handle him, if Seb joined Ferrari Fernando would be so worried hence the veeto against the move.


Really? You honestly think Bernie supports SV and RBR because they are the future of F1?

Or maybe,just maybe, there is something in it for Bernie. What do you reckon?

Take off the SV blinkers for a moment and take a proper look at what is going on. Bernie needs an ally in his negotions with FOTA, he supports RBR and smooths out some of their problems and hey presto, he has his ally.

Now moving onto your second point – if FA is poweful enough at Ferrari to over rule SV joining the team (something I doubt),then that must mean Ferrari rate him higher than SV. If not they would surely tell him to mind his own business and recruit SV anyway. It appears your idolising of SV has, perhaps, clouded your judgement.

Having said all of the above – I am not suggesting SV and RBR are not doing a good job, they are. It’s just that in a world where the differences between teams are measured in 100ths of a second, it never hurts to have an edge 🙂


RB is the only person did buy it & won the championship with it. So RB & his locals are the only one deserve the credit


Although I would love to see Vettel and Brawn on the same team.


Hi James, was Kimi’s interview on the podcast taken from the Australian Grand Prix breakfast show?


Kimi is the best! Just wish he’d get some new sunglasses lol.

The Ferrari boys might lend him one pf their extra cool Italian carabinieris


James, what about racing in China in terms of North Korean threats ?


China is North Korea’s biggest trade partner, no danger of any trouble there. They are trying to calm everyone down.


What are you trying to say? North Korea are not exactly threatening China and even if they did I’m sure China’s security forces would prove sufficient, Afghanistan is also a country that borders China and India and I never hear any problems off that.

Pulkit Tripathi

Awesome insight James, thanks for having my two favorites Kimi and Alonso’s interview. Also great technical insights.


Very insightful comments from Allison.

For once I could hear Kimi speaks clearly haha.

Thanks James, great job!


Chocolate eggs, a 4 day weekend AND a JA podcast!?!

I feel spoilt. Thank you James!


Interesting listening, look forward to more 🙂


Thanks James for the podcast. Just a thought, will it be possible for your podcast to be an hour long or more. With your knowledge and connections I’m sure it’s not a problem gathering more interviews and information. I just love listening to all podcasts relating to motorsports.


Excellent podcast James. You could hear the respect in James Allisons voice on Kimi braking traction only twice on a damp Australian track, which serves notice to readers of what a tremendous talent he is especially given the pace he was running all race. I’ve always believed Kimi was every bit as good or better than Mikka Hakkinen and of course that puts him up with the very best.

The one thing I would really like to see is drivers like Alonso and Massa speak a lot more specifically about things rather just say ” we found a good direction ” I’m sure it would help interviewers and fans alike understand a few specific things that change a drivers career so positively. Perhaps it’s force of habit that the political nature of the top teams keep drivers from giving so much away. Keep them honest James.


Agree all your points Candice


Dave c – 2 years out of F1 and Kimi already beat Webber last year in a car that was no where as fast – would you like me to draw you a picture


Kimi that good? Then why did he get beaten by Massa?


that should answer your question oh and btw what kimi did in 2009 in that old dog of a ferrari was the true testament to his talent.

Andrea Stella: “Kimi was able to do so many things behind the wheel that our engineers’ advice wouldn’t have been of help there. In that sense Kimi is better than Michael Schumacher. When I was working as Michael’s data engineer we always had to tell him accurately how he could drive faster in different corners according to the computer. With Kimi you don’t need these kind of advice. He finds the solutions himself.”

James Allen: “His performances were astonishing. Even the Ferrari engineers don’t fully understand how he managed to get some of the podiums he did.”


Other than in Shanghai, where he had to let Massa past for second place, he was very much the junior partner at Ferrari in the title

run-in. And you wouldn’t completely blame Kimi for becoming a little demotivated – there were times when it wasn’t just the handling of the

car that wasn’t on his side.Wind back to the Spanish Grand Prix and things were looking very

good for him. He had just won in Barcelona – his second victory in the opening four races – and was nine points clear of Hamilton in the

drivers’ championship. Things were looking very good; certainly far better than they were last season when there were suggestions he was

under pressure for his seat after a difficult start to his Ferrari career.In the next four races, Raikkonen was beset with catastrophic luck that cost him big points. At Monaco, he had pole position but was given a drive-through penalty because the team failed to get his wheels on quickly enough before the start. No points. In Canada, he was preparing for a pit-exit drag race with Robert Kubica when Hamilton clattered into the back of him at the traffic lights. No points.At Magny-Cours, he was supreme, obliterating Massa in qualifying and

cruising to victory when some exhaust damage dropped him to second. Two points lost. At Silverstone, he was carving into Hamilton’s lead prior to the first pit stop, only for Ferrari’s dodgy weather forecast to lead to him being sent back out on worn standard wets on the brink of a deluge. More points gone begging. Big points.But ranged against that bad luck, there was also a second half of

the season during which there were too many races where he looked more like an also-ran than a defending champion. Not even the occasional majestic performances in Spain, Bahrain, Magny-Cours and Spa can

counter that.Two wins could have been three or four. That could have kept him at the sharp end of the title chase. That could have given him the boost he needed to find that extra few tenths he needed. The fact was, that wasn’t how it turned out and Raikkonen has to be considered one of the disappointments of the season in terms of delivering on his ability. Those days when he was on his game served

only to remind us of just how good he is.


But, the fact was, there were just too many races where his struggle to adapt his driving style to the understeering Ferrari F2008

undermined his chances.Ironically, the Belgian Grand Prix, the very race that could have

heralded his return to form, was the one that seemed to kill off his chances of defending the drivers’ title. Although he again qualified disappointingly, it was largely as a consequence of a mistake and he claimed to have made a stride forward with the handling.

“I am happier with the car now, but the mistake I made didn’t help,”he said at the time. “So we didn’t get exactly what we wanted but at least the car feels better.”He made amends for the mistake with a scintillating first couple of

laps. Pushing Massa towards the grass on the run to Les Combes on the opening lap was definitely the Kimi of old, not a demotivated shadow,and once he had capitalised on Lewis Hamilton’s La Source spin on the second lap to take the lead a couple of corners later, he was gone.This really could have been the race that turned things around. Then,in the closing laps, it rained.Hamilton carved into his lead and passed him – controversially -into La Source in the closing stages. With the Ferrari hardly a

user-friendly car in the wet, he did amazingly well to retake the lead from Hamilton, only to crash at Blanchimont later that lap. Ten points

became none and in the remaining five races he didn’t even look like winning a race.


Come the race start, it’s a similar situation with the car understeering. However, as the first stint goes on, the Bridgestone tyres begin to wear. In terms of balance, this would generally move the car’s behaviour towards oversteer, meaning that Kimi finds the car more

to his liking a little later in the stint.

But by then, he’s bottled up behind the odd BMW and Heikki Kovalainen, maybe even a Toyota or two, and can’t exploit that speed.It isn’t until he finds some space in the second or third stint that he is fully able to show his speed once the tyres have transformed the

handling of the car.

That was the story of too many of Raikkonen’s races in 2008.”Basically the tyre is going to an oversteer tendency during the race,” says Hamashima. “Maybe the car is a little bit understeery, but as the tyres move more towards oversteer Kimi finds a good balance and

as a result could get the best lap in the race.”Of course, there were races where the characteristics of the circuit

– Magny-Cours for example – meant he was able to get the tyre warm-up right in qualifying and was able to excel on Saturday afternoon. There

were also times – Spa for example – where Raikkonen was able to charge to the front on the opening lap, and we witnessed a performance worthy of a world champion.


The way the tyres performed was more of a symptom of the problem

than the absolute cause. After all, as Bridgestone’s director of

motorsport tyre development Hirohide Hamashima points out, weren’t

these the same tyres that, despite difficulties adapting to at the

start of the year, Kimi won the title on in 2007?

“Of course, the tyres may have some responsibility, but I believe

that car set-up affects him more than tyre warm-up because those

compounds have been used for two years already,” says Hamashima. “Last

year Kimi didn’t mention it, but this year many times he has complained

about tyre warm-up.

“So basically I think that the car characteristics are different

from last year to this year – the Ferrari has a little bit more of an

understeer tendency. That’s why Kimi couldn’t control the car so well

in qualifying, but sometimes had a quickest lap during the race.”

Here things begin to add up. As a rule, the Ferrari F2008

understeered. This meant that Raikkonen struggled in qualifying,

particularly as the season went on and the prevailing characteristics

of the car edged further towards understeer. Add in a few tyre warm-up

difficulties to exacerbate the problem and you have car No.1

languishing on the second or third row of the grid.


So was Kimi just slow in 2008? Well, actually he wasn’t.Astonishingly, the Finn claimed ten out of 18 fastest laps over the course of the year, matching Michael Schumacher’s all-time record for a season. Granted, fastest laps are not necessarily the best indicator of overall race performance – after all they only reflect a small snapshot of a 200-mile grand prix – but in the case of Kimi, that one statistic is the key to understanding his problems.

Even during his more lacklustre performances, the Finn was capable of setting fastest laps, and he frequently did. The Hungarian Grand

Prix, where he qualified a distant sixth and was only promoted to a third-place finish by Massa’s last-gasp engine failure, is a classic

example of that, as is Singapore where he was a massive eighth-tenths off Massa’s pole lap. Yet despite two poor races, he still added a

couple of marks to the FL column.

In simple terms, this doesn’t add up. How can you combine being one of the quickest drivers over one lap in a race with so often under-delivering in qualifying? Most often cited as the root of the problems were the Bridgestone control tyres. Like a number of other

drivers, including BMW Sauber’s Nick Heidfeld, Raikkonen struggled with tyre warm-up in qualifying, meaning that his front tyres weren’t at their optimum operating temperature throughout a qualifying lap. Once again, there is more to this than meets the eye.


The reigning world champion had a poor season by his own standards, and

ended up playing second fiddle to Felipe Massa at Ferrari. But

occasional flashes showed that his incredible speed is still in there

somewhere, so what went wrong? Edd Straw explains.Everyone had a theory for Kimi

Raikkonen’s underwhelming 2008 season. Was he demotivated? Was one world championship title enough for him? Was he enjoying himself a

little too much off track? Was he letting his fitness slip a little?was it all about the tyres? Was the balance of the Ferrari F2008 wrong for him? Was he on the cusp of retirement?As ever, the reality of the situation was far more complex than such

broad brush strokes allow, but what was beyond question was that by the final third of the season he was looking every bit the number two toteam leader Felipe Massa.


Right now he best everyone including Massa. He also beat Massa to become world champion in 2007. In 2008 he got sick of the politics and bullshit at Ferrari and by end of 2008 Ferrari were courting Santander millions and a fernando came with that.

Felipe is no slouch either he is currently ahea if Fernando and was fantastic prior his accident .So I don’t know what your point is. But Kimi came 3rd in his first year back in the 4 th best team and finished every racing lap which has stunned even the shrewdest critics. His reflexes and skills are secon to none and in the right team at the right time he is unstoppable and I think he’s in the right team now !


i have never seens a more underrated driver than Kimi.

James Allison summing up well about Kimi. Something that the team insider knew too well than us armchair fans as they have all the telemetry data on their disposal.


the guy that finished 3rd with a car that was halted its development since summer break as team owner trying to sold the team but failed.

Where was webber, lewis, button, massa and co???


If Mark can do that what can Kimi do? Thats you assuming Kimi is faster or something right? Well in that respect I think you’re underrating Webber, he has constantly clearly beaten his team mates until he was teamed with Seb, he easily dispatched Rosberg at Williams, the same Rosberg that seems to have the measure of Hamilton, and at the age of 36 he should still be capable he’s not 40 yet, and besides Vettel has just about reached his prime now and evwn before that he was the class of the field, I think Kimi would have trouble beating Mark rihht now, he would get destroyed by Vettel, he would also get beaten right now by the likes of Alonso, Rosberg and Hamilton, and maybe even Massa and Hulkenberg, Kimi is good but overrated.


People keep asking silly question regarding 2008. Ferrari had said before and even Schumacher said that the car development were deviated from kimi.

And you must be wondering why huh?? A guy that work with factory 24/7 and a guy who prefer to stay at home than in the factory, who will you follow suit in term of car development??

Alonso is the best guy for the job. Ferrari need leader, unlike mclaren that are more active instead of being passive.

its weird when massa out for injury and the team refocus on Kimi, he went and win a race with 4 podium and score most points than anyone just 1 point lesser than lewis in 2nd half alone when Rbr, brawn, heavily revised mclaren, toyota and even force india were faster car than the halted developed F60.

Kimi ‘s performance in 2007 was actually quite remarkable considering the car was never built in his favor.

Im glad for their separation, it was not going to bear any fruit.


the same question i would ask, why Alonso got beaten by Trulli??


Robo , Dave – seriously guys. when Felipe was with Kimi Ferrari allowed them to race and Kimi was always a fair racer. Fernando came on board as a clear No1. This had destroyed Felipes mojo since Fernando joined the team. Now that he has finally got it back look what happened in Australia they “allowed” Fernando the undercut but did not tell Felipe he was doing it. There is a world of difference in how the team dynamics work when this going on- if people can’t see this then I feel very sorry for them.

As far as Kimi at Red Bull – if Mark Webber at 36 takes two race wins each year from Seb .. What do you think Kimi would do……


Well Fernando has done alot better against Massa than Kimi ever did, even in 2007 if Massa didn’t fade so much in the last 1/4 of the seasin it would have been just like 2008, lets make no mistake in the nearly 3 years driving alongside Kimi you can see Massa did well against him, something he can’t do to Alonso, if Kimi joined Redbull Vettel would crush him.


Hmmm unstoppable in a top car yeah? So what would you say if he did join Redbull next year and get blown away by Vettel? Another thing Alonso will never be behind Massa for long.


Very informative!

Thanks to James the team and his guest.

The part on RBR Vettel and Weber I thought was interesting. I still maintain it was RBR’s decision to not race that was faulty. A good manager only gives orders that he knows can be executed.

I liked Kimi’s interview quiet a bit. I have kind of held judgement on him so far. But I like what I see.


Kimi often gives great interviews, and much better than the endless ‘pushing as hard as I can’ stuff you often get from Hamilton. BBC TV interviewed him in Malaysia, asked silly questions and had 3 cameras pointing at him, one on railway tracks constantly going backwards and forwards. Kimi refused to take off his shades, answered yes/no to everything then wandered off after 3 minutes. If you ask Kimi the right questions, he’s always a fascinating listen. Keep up the good work, James & Mark.


I agree 100%. I’ve always had very positive experiences with him


Like Mitchell, I too would like to see some easy to comprehend statistics on the amount of broken traction (wheelspin). It sounds like a fascinating reflection of how sensitive the drivers right foot is (or whatever they use to depress the throttle).

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