Hamilton on new McLaren, Massa and fighting Button for world title
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Posted By: James Allen  |  05 Jan 2012   |  11:04 am GMT  |  129 comments

Lewis Hamilton has done a short interview in La Gazzetta dello Sport today in which he says a couple of interesting things.

One is about team mate Jenson Button, the other on Felipe Massa.

On Button he says, “Jenson is very fast and has built around himself a very strong team of technicians. I always want to beat him and I’m never happy if I don’t. But psychologically I don’t see it as a problem. He’s an open person who you can get along with.

“It would be great to fight with him for the world title in 2012, it just depends on the McLaren car.”

This is interesting in that Hamilton highlights the way that Button has integrated himself into the McLaren team and made sure to build around him the team he needs. Having the support network around you in a team is such an important part of doing well in F1.

Both men sent out Christmas cards this year and the difference in them was quiet striking; Button’s was a jokey photo of himself in the cockpit of his car surrounded by this “team of technicians”, engineers and mechanics, all wearing santa hats and pulling faces.

Hamilton’s was a simple shot of him driving his car at high speed. (McLaren’s incidentally, was a very even handed shot of the two cars side by side, racing on snow)


Although a trivial point it says something about what both wanted to say about themselves at the end of 2011.

Both men had new engineers, incidentally, last season. For 2012 the track operations side will be overseen by Sam Michael, so it will be very interesting to see what changes he makes and how the two drivers operate when seeking to get the best support for themselves.

Hamilton says that the Red Bull will be the car to beat but adds that “the new McLaren seems far superior to last year’s car.”

On Massa, with whom Hamilton had several run-ins last season, he says, “We often found ourselves close together and Massa is a difficult driver to pass because he never gives you any room. But it’s not something to over-dramatize. I have nothing against him.”

To say that another driver doesn’t give you any room, isn’t to accuse him of anything, but it does imply that he doesn’t race fairly. This was a real talking point in 2011, with Michael Schumacher also on the limit of what was correct when covering a position in a battle. And it’s likely to be a talking point again this year as the DRS wing and Pirelli short life tyres create an increasing number of overtaking opportunities.

Yesterday the FIA issued the final technical and sporting regulations for the 2012 F1 season and there is a change of wording about what is permissible when defending a line into a corner.

“More than one change of direction to defend a position is not permitted,” says article 20.3. “Any driver moving back towards the racing line, having earlier defended his position off‐line, should leave at least one car width between his own car and the edge of the track on the approach to the corner.”

In other words, as the edge of the track on the entry to the corner is usually where the racing line is to be found, the driver defending cannot move back fully onto the racing line once he’s covered off a dive down the inside.

This is likely to still be problematic this season as we have seen time and again that definitions and interpretations can vary. Judging what constitutes a car’s width when moving sideways, looking in the mirrors and braking from 200 mph for a corner isn’t always going to be clear cut.

It does give the stewards some clear guidelines to work to, but what will be needed in 2012 is consistency from the stewards in applying the rule. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

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That’s because the team that he had in 2007-2009 was dismantled on purpose by Whitmarsh when Jenson came to McLaren. He (Whitmarsh) said he did it to be fair to Jenson.

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Yes. As others have already iterated, I think we need to read between the lines of what Hamilton is saying. I remember when Button arrived that Whitmarsh went to extreme lengths to unsettle Hamilton and took away the closes people in the garage he should be too, his #1 and #2 race engineer.

These structural changes can be viewed as extreme and unheard of in F1 when you already have a young prodigy WDC.

Therefore it is not a surprise for Hamilton to say this. Those who read any discussion threads on Hamilton having been saying for a while the same as you, that Hamilton’s side of the garage was dismantled.

The key question is whether Sam Michael has the authority to correct this organisational structure change. I hope to read a press statement in the next weeks indicating that Phil Prew is being re-instated as Hamilton’s primary race engineer.

Just like when they won the WDC together.

3

Whitmarsh would not stand for anyone getting changing his decisions about the support of the drivers. It won’t happen.

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@Stallion GP … “to always refer to the rookie season of Hamilton just goes to show how he has not developed as a driver since then …”

No. It goes to show that we as fans have not developed since then.

That was when… 2007?

This is when… 2012? Yeah 5 years ago.

Its time to quit relating anything to his rookie year I think.

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Last year was an odd year for Hamilton, and it is interesting to realise that he started significantly better than Button Pirelli tyres or not, but I still think most of it was borne out of frustration with McLaren and their inability to design a car good enough to beat Red Bull. There really was no chance of catching Red Bull and Hamilton would have found that demoralising for yet another year so much so he was not in a position to take advantage when the McLaren was in a good enough position to win and mistakes by him and McLaren just piled on the misery. Given the tyres even more so the only way McLaren are going win a championship is to produce a front running car. I rather suspect we will see a resolute Hamilton this year, but all depends on the car regardless of the driver.

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Would be very interested to see scanned images of these cards!

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Anything that even sniffs of a comparison between Button and Hamilton seems a guaranteed way of drumming up discussion and debate. I’m so interested to see how Hamilton develops (or doesn’t) over the next couple of years. For sheer speed and talent, I don’t think anybody is close but the tyres and increased emphasis on strategy seem to have created the opportunity to level out differences in talent.

I think this season is crucial for Hamilton. There has to be some perspective when viewing last season – it was undeniably the worst of his career and arguably the best of Button’s, and yet the gap between them wasn’t huge. If Hamilton doesn’t start strong this year, I can see him increasingly seen as second tier and he may find himself having to find an opportunity elsewhere, but having to wait until Ferrari and their second driver situation becomes clear and also having to wait to see where/if Vettel moves on…. a prospect that would have seemed unfathomable a couple of years ago.

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Lewis Hamilton, the marmite of F1 drivers…

Doesn’t matter which way you look at it, JB is the first driver to beat LH with the same machinery in a racing season. Nobody expected it and just because LH had his worst season in many people’s eyes doesn’t take anything from that achievement. Alonso, regarded as probably the most complete driver in F1 didn’t manage it, and most others have been quite a distance behind. The gap from JB to LH was greater this year than it was from LH to JB last year, so go and figure. Over the last 2 seasons I’d still say JB has done a better job…

LH needs a good season else he might struggle to find a team willing to take him on, especially with his tendancy to criticise the team in public and make some terrible PR blunders…drivers are increasingly looked upon to be 100% professional at all times!

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James

I have to admit, I’m pulling whats left of my hair out with some of these posts (and as you know I dont have much left anyway).

It seems most Lewis (rather than McLaren fans and Lewis fans) see McLaren as solely at fault for last year.

I think thats pie in the sky. I’d be really interested to hear your view on the engineering side.

My view is JB has worked hard to put a good team around him. I very much doubt there is any benefit or ulterior motive by mclaren to as someone put it (Give jenson all of Lewis old crew members).

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Re: Above comment about BBC & Brundle.

Brundle is actually fair and neutral. It may not come across that way all the time but that is because of his “grumpy old man” tendencies and the occasional error/snap judgement..

 Abu Dhabi he could not understand all that “support bubble” speak. To be honest, while I understand it better than Brundle I still did not see his need to discuss it with the press. On the flip side stuff like that helps them fill up page columns so the press should actually be a bit more grateful to Lewis for the talking points he generates-I’m sure James i .

 

I do find it interesting that all the British Media comments are from this one source. Is it an Italian paper and if so why go with them rather than a British one?

 

There was a lot of scrutiny of his management company last season would like to see them being more strategic in how they manage him & his PR this year. Hope this is the start of a more clever campaign.

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Button built a good team of technicians around him Or did Whitmarsh [mod] give him all of Lewis’ old crew members to make him feel welcome?

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Hamilton is a racer and overtaker. Button is a smooth driver. Vettel is a mixture of both. Unfortunately the new rules keep benefiting those who look after their tires rather than actually race and overtake. The introduction of KERS and DRS meant that being an Overtaker is actually a bad thing, just damaging your tires more (now the only strategy F1 has, but that’s another debate). Cars now can just wait until the right time and let science do it’s thing. Yes Hamilton over one lap (and a competitive car) can be unstoppable, but he is never going to be the best when looking after Pirelli’s is paramount.

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Good Luck Hamilton, Sure You will win 2012 F1 Title.

I think this is useful link for 2012 F1:

2012 F1 cars launching dates

http://www.formula1onlive.com/2011/12/2012-f1-cars-launching-dates.html

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In other words, pull out a red carpet and let people just pass you, do not defend or get a penalty. The art of defending is now illegal.

This has become a fake sport which tries to cater the lowest common denominator with easy overtaking through gimmicks and now regulations.

What’s next, a speed limit if someone is 5 seconds behind you?

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Can,t wait for the season to start.I would love to see Lewis win,win,win and then not do interviews with the BBC or Brundell. Let Whitmarsh do the interviews and listen to how he still tries to bull up Jenson.How no-one at Maclaren has not bothered to sit down and tell Whitmarsh to either stand by lewis or leave is a mystery to me. No doubt that little Irish fella would then be telling us all…..”I always said LH was the one”.Good bye to BBC and good ridence.

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“Massa is a difficult driver to pass because he never gives you any room”

This is an interesting one. Until this year, or perhaps last year, this is not something I would ever have said about Felipe Massa. The guy used to routinely get absolutely slaughtered in an overtaking battle, leaving the ideal overtaking line clear on wide corner entries and the like. Perhaps this was only when he was driving a front-running car, as he was more worried about losing points?

Lewis is right, Felipe’s new tactic is to give no room at all, but he has every right to do so. Lewis has made a lot of great overtakes but he’s also done a lot of what Brundle likes to call “leaving it up to you whether or not to have a crash” when speaking of Senna – i.e. sticking his front wing somewhere dangerous and hoping the leading driver backs down. I was really struck by this watching the Beeb’s season review last week, the pass on Button in China being a great example.

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If these new rules applied last year, Hamilton wouldn’t have ended with the stewards as many times as he did last season.

In fact the new rules vindicate Johnny Herbert’s decision when he gave Massa a penalty at the Indian GP.

Hamilton stated a fact. Even though Hamilton’s decisions on the race track this season haven’t always been the best to say the least, but Massa has never been a fair racer. He’s proving that he learnt a lot from a certain M. Shumacher.

We saw wheel to wheel racing between Webber and Vettle, Alonso and Vettle, Webber and Button, Hamilton and the 3 of them, but he only ran into Massa everytime he attempted to overtake him.

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I agree with you on your comparison of Massa to MS’s defending style (in 2011 at least). Prost was the same if I remember correctly. The idea being “if you’re on my line when I turn in then the consequences are your fault”.

I disagree, however, with your (anti) justification of Herbert’s penalty on Massa in India. 2012 rules are in no way applicable to 2011 events.

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I think the new passing rule accurately reflects what most F1 fans believe should be allowed when defending yourself, i.e: to be able to change direction but also be allowed to slot back in a decent line to take the corner while leaving enough space for the car behind to outbrake you from the outside.

As James said, the key will be the consistancy from the stewards in applying this rule.

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it used to be in F1 that this closing the door on your opponent when he got half way past you never happened twice because you got killed if you did it ….I think it was fangio who said that in 10 years of F1 30 other drivers died

but since the senna era moving off your line then coming back to cut off your opponent has started because the cars are so much safer

so , to my mind , the driver who is quickest at getting alongside another car is hamilton …if McLaren give him half a chance in 2012 I expect him to be the one to give the RB’s a run for their money even though i expect the RB’s to be faster as they have been the last 3 years [ once they had DD in 2009 ]

button won the WDC in 2009 because he kept his head and just racked up the points once his car became about 3rd in the pecking order , before that he extracted the maximum ; if webbo had done that in 2010 he would have done the same , but he felt he had to win one of the last races and it cost him ; vettel had a car that was never bettered in 2011 and did a brilliant job

2012 ? won’t be putting my money on until after jerez …having said that I was shocked at how bad McL was pre-season in 2010 and look how they improved ! not good in 2011 and ended up almost in the RB category ; and ferrari have the deepest pockets and have regrouped …what can they achieve with a top driver !!!

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Does this mean the driver who has had to leave a cars width on entry to the corner cannot aim his car for the apex?

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Personally the thing that scares me about Jenson isn’t his speed but his consistency & his general awareness of where his car’s physical boundaries are which quality is important for avoiding crashes e.g. his fight with Webber at Abu-Dhabi 2011.

Also the Pirelli tyres have given Jenson a boost for I couldn’t believe how fast he was going without losing the performance of his tyres e.g. Suzuka & Hungary, so yes I have been having a couple of sleepless nights.

But one major drawback with Jenson is his inability to get heat in his tyres fast enough which fact affects his qualifying (Vettel showed in 2011, qualifying is still important) and that’s why I highly doubt Jens has another WDC in him (hasn’t been on people since Monaco 2009).

Sure, if he got another bullet car like he did with Brawn, he would have had another shot at the title but unfortunately for Jens is this time he has a beast for a teammate & more importantly one that has been to hell and back.

So Lewis shouldn’t think of fighting with Jens for the honours for poor qualifying from Jenson which later creates poor starts will rule out Jenson from the 2012 show down early on seeing as Ferrari & possibly Mercedes are coming to the free-for-all 2012 buffet.

As for the point of Jens building the team around him, No Sir! Jens hasn’t built a team of technicians around him but rather his biggest fan Whitmarsh did that for him for I recall when Jens came into the team, he was given Hammy’s technicians while Lewis got Jens’ people.

So me thinks, it’s more of a case of one driver being favoured over the other, simples but hey, ironically this is good news for us Hammy fans for it would be quite embarrassing for the favoured one to get beaten at his own game.

Now to the point of Massa, yes, Hammy has stated it perfectly right there & just goes to show most of his penalties in 2011 were unfair while people like Schumi get away with murder.

P.s.

Interesting of all top drivers seeking glory in 2012, Lewis is by far the most cautious while the rest are filled with bravado.

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Phil Prew, Lewis’s Race Engineer was promoted to Principle Race Engineer before the 2010 season started.

As a Mclaren fan it’s getting boring reading how McLaren favour Jenson Button. They are a racing team first and foremost with two very good drivers. In the end the drivers are employees and the team comes first! If one driver is not delivering, you try to get him back to his best, but you lean towards the other the one who is doing what he is paid to do.

I’ve no doubt thst Lewis will come good, but it up to him and no-one else.

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By your point Heiki should still be there while Mclaren try and get him up to speed. In view of potential of the car Prew as chief race engineer did not work (I expect Mclaren know this hence Sam appointment).

As a mclaren fan it might make ncomfortable reading for you but, if things don’t improve, you’ll have to get used to more “discussion” of the subject.

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HK had two years to show he could deliver for McLaren, sadly he couldn’t. At no stage was HK close to Hamilton, It was time for him to go, you can only give so much help. He went to Lotus and to his credit he is now rebuilding his stock. If the same situation arises with Hamilton or Button, I would expect them to make the same decision. So no, it won’t be uncomfortable reading, but it is an argument to which I have read nothing that would convince me that JB is the ‘Favoured Son’

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Lewis did not get “Jens” people in 2010. He got Latham who had just moved from simulator stint and whose previous Race experience was when Kimi was at Mclaren 2006! and even then he was assisting.

i still don’t get that.

Jakob and Prew already worked together as Lewis Engineering team and not only is this ready made synergy in place for Jensen but Lewis is given an Engineer with limited race experience.

This lack of experience was very obvious 2011 season even if the focus was on Lewis race incidents overlooked it.

1.malaysia tyre gate: this had the fingers of the strategy team on it at the time however, Lewis requesting a particular set of tyres but having his request ignored was probably the start of his poor season. he still felt very frustrated about it a week later so obviously he was not convinced by any explanation he was given.

2. china -Lewis ignoring engineer advice to go on and win

3. Monaco no banker lap

4. Canada qualifying-whatever frustrated Lewis there to extent that he walked into Redbull garage on the Saturday and was in a frenzy the next day.

5. Silverstone fuel error and lack of info

6. Germany qualify “specifically thanking his team for finding the gap” this was incredibly telling because it pointed to a deficiency that he must have recognised as existing.

then during race his engineer decides to warn him to “look after tyres” while he is dicing with Webber!!! distracting him and allowing webber to pass.

7. hungary tyre strategy?? perhaps strategy team had input into this but really.

8.9.10. qualifying gap problems in several races from spa onwards (apart from Korea and Abu Dhabi) which brought him too close for comfort with Massa – although Singapore was affected by bad luck tyre puncture.

India faux pas was solely Lewis fault but you sometimes here radio warnings during practise. Mclaren should have alerted Lewis re: the yellow flag.

when listed out like this I do worry for his 2012 season campaign if the racing team does not pull their socks up. Jensen had his share of bad luck but more freak accidents rather than questionable decisions.

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@TheBestPoint

Amazing! Thanks for the info.

As for the Lewis yellow flag in India, well I wouldn’t put the majority of the blame on his shoulders seeing as the green light was showing when it happened.

Only one fellow (that didn’t get the memo) was still waving the yellow flag & that’s what caused all the confusion.

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The button vs lewis dynamic is very interesting for a variety of reasons.

Classic case of how the right support allows a company to get the best out of staff. Even with Button’s 2nd in championship I don’t see him as a better racer but i can envisage a series of seasons where his half of the garage continues to beat Lewis’ side.

Being a team requires relationships that transcend work – pub visits, practical jokes playing them on others and being the victim of pranks etc towards developing a cultural fit. i think his side of garage r ok on this one, with a couple of technical weaknesses the race engineers side, but when one goes upwards from Phiiip prew , Is Lewis on the same wavelength culturally? Does he speak their language? if you go just by forum activity on incidents involving him you see immediately that his comments/statements are almost always overly analysed, dissected and misinterpreted by fans, spectators, media alike to the extent that one can facetiously immediately answer – NO!.

Lets also not forrget that 2010 Mclaren bent themselves backwards not to appear a one driver race team and BBC staff have always aligned itself with Button. This season it took a life of its own and went somewhat out of hand, in my opinion. because culturally and historically the BBC is pro Jensen Whitmarshes Mclaren are now pandering to this.

Not to take anything from Jensen who has rightly worked hard at developing all the relationships he needs to do a good job and to be seen to be doing a great job. However, in the long run is Mclaren best served by an underachieving Lewis? In a purely academic sense it is intriguing to see such clear cut evidence of unrealised potential due to office politics/culture differences.

however as a frustrated fan of his racing I am glad that Sam Michel is not British & hope he eschews the british media pressure for the so called “underdog”. (fat chance if whitmarsh is his mentor however if he has access to Neal or Dennis there may be hope).

I do so wish that Jacob was Lewis’ engineer rather than Latham (with no other grief against latham, apart from a few instances of not being able to multi task/ or find the appropriate gaps in qualifying but mainly not convinced about his hustling ability when up against Jacob & prew).

My wish list for Lewis is that apart from minor adjustments in his mindset to account for full tanks on rubbish tyres- which he already started doing last season- that

1. He leaves his personal business personal (i don’t blame him for the media attention considering his high profile girlfriend and that Whitmarsh was the one to cynically direct attention to his personal issues) however i do blame him for allowing personal issues to impact his performance and hope that does not happen again.

2. He does not compromise his driving style but instead the race team is tweaked to accommodate it – come back Jacob please!

3. Mclaren moves all the ruthless Nerds to Lewis side of the garage (those whose egos are only satisfied with a race win and thus have little interest in intra team politics or popping down to the pub for bonding sessions). Come back Jacob and bring your little friends with you!

4. and (if he can’t bring himself to exhibit blind loyalty like other team Principles)Whitmarsh holds his tongue from negative comments when Lewis is under intense scrutiny.

5. Failing any or all of the above Lewis pays close attention to switching to Mercedes even if only for a couple of years.

James a poll suggestion going into the new season: Who is the underdog at Mclaren?

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I think you will find that Dave Robson is Jenson’s race engineer. Give the Jenson knocking a break!

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Jacob was his race engineer at the start and engineered Jensens first two wins 2010. He went off for health reasons from controversial turkey 2010 onwards. He was back for another spell end of this year. It would appear even Mclaren can’t make up their minds as website has switched between the two engineer names twice!

Both appear to know their stuff so I say Jensen keep Dave(smooth assassin) and Jacob(ruthless nerd) take over for Lewis.

Disclaimer: Brackets are just my impressions of how they operate.

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Let me ask you a question what is mclaren meant to do slow down Button or concentrate on Lewis so he can crash out in a race in other teams where there’s a number 1 driver does Vettel or Alonso go out race after race due to a crash or making rookie errors. As fans we forget Mclaren is a business and they would optimize their race team to get the best out of it.

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No don’t slow down button. However give them both equally (highly)skilled Engineers – cut out the underperforming chaff.

They r the ones boasting about their Driver line up they have a responsibility to support both to the fullest.

Whitmarsh also has specific responsibilities. Some of the negative press was down to him. Look at how Ferrari closed ranks around Massa’s Engineer or how Williams managed to convince the public that Hamilton had to take 30% blame for Maldonado Spa. Compare that to Whitmarsh calling a press conference to ramble on about his position after just a few poor headlines or directing the Media to Lewis personal issues, making fun of him in Korea (if u don’t show value for ur driver, irrespective, then the competition will engage in a free for all and why not)or even his management of FOTA.

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Thats just a joke about the race engineer bit and the Whitmarsh bit.

If you treat yourself as a joke people would make jokes out of you simple.

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Stalilion GP, as usual your passion for Vettel flaws your analysis of another driver.

Alonso is the most complete driver on the grid and no number of lights to flags by Vettel in a RedBull that is superior can change that.

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Nonsense. Where did he show a bias for Vettel? And Vettel is already as good as Alonso- it’s your bias towards Alonso that makes you think otherwise.

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Junk in my trunk

Oh, the irony.

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Couldn’t have said it any better. Not only does some F1 drivers find it difficult to comprehend but viewers too. Sure Hamiltons moves have been optimistic sometimes but most of them legit. If drivers would simply give room we would see a lot more battles like Hamilton v Webber @ Korea. But instead we get things like Hamilton v Massa @ India because drivers simply refuse to give room.

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On a point about Massa not giving any room… I believe Mark Webber is known to be a very hard racer as well. Haven’t heard anyone complain.

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I was just thinking this as well.

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Riccardo Consulini

True. The reason for this is: Even having a difficult year, Mark spent most of the year in front of Massa, Schumacher, Maldonado and etc. Hamilton on the other hand……

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Riccardo Consulini

I think Lewis will probably beat Button in 2012. At the end of the day, when it comes to raw pace he’s still the quickest of them. But Jenson is better managing risks and conserving the car in general. RedBull will have a decent car as always and Ferrari will probably make a come back as 2011 was an “off” year due to the calibration problems they had on their wind tunnel and Aldo Costa’s extremely conservative approach. Ferrari confirmed their superiority over McLaren in 2010. I don’t think Lewis will waste another year at Mclaren if they have only the third best car.

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There seems to be a point of view amongst F1 drivers that you can take your line into a corner and if another driver is there “then that’s too bad”.

I hate this point of view. A race in athletics isn’t contested using the theory “stop your competitors running past you at all costs”, and neither should it in F1. It’s Motor *Racing* not Motor blocking!

Massa typifies this and it’s at best an unintelligent way of going racing. You can argue all day long if Lewis should have been there or not but if he is, and you turn in, you shall crash. If you give each other room you can fight it out.

Why is this so difficult to comprehend for some F1 drivers?!

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Spinodontosaurus

Ist it so annoying when people get in the way?

Why dont we solve the issue entirely and have the ‘race’ being replaced by a time trail, no pesky cars to overtake, and no blocking!

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The problem is that if the other drivers know that you will always concede the corner if they have a go down the inside then you become a soft touch. If the drivers think that you won’t concede and will turn in then they are less likely to try to overtake.

So you need to suffer a few accidents to show the other drivers that you won’t back out. Probably Massa is anxious to show Hamilton that he won’t back out so not to bother to try to overtake him. Hamilton on the other hand is the best overtaker (with Kobayashi) and wants to show that he can and will overtake and will never back out himself.

So it’s not a simple issue.

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Massa was heavily criticised in mid-2008 for being too easy to overtake (e.g. Hockenheim 2008 vs Hamilton). Since then he’s gone too far the other way IMO, like driving into Hamilton with all 4 wheels off the circuit later that year in Fuji, and several of the incidents with Hamilton tis year.

Not saying Hamilton is blameless in the incidents obviously, but Massa certainly seems to see it as a badge of honour to crash rather then let people (especially Hamilton) pass him.

Ultimately though, the “fued” between them damaged both drivers a lot this year, and Hamilton more than Massa because he is generally held in higher regard.

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“it takes two to tango”

If hamilton knows that Massa won’t leave room, then why on earth did he think it was a good idea to pass him in that corner?

Also, might add that few drivers even attemped passes in that corner to begin with. This is typical of hamilton: attempt passes in odd corners because he is impatient and does not want to wait for the “proper” moment.

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I fully agree, it takes two to Tango, and I think that by now Hamilton has accepted that he wasn’t being smart this year, and too impatient/clumsy trying to pass Massa too often.

I also entirely disagree with second paragraph. Wait for the “proper” moment, using the DRS on the straight, as a good F1 drivers should? No.

I am really glad to see drivers try a daring, unexpected overtake. They should be smart about it (like, Webber in Spa on Alonso), and Hamilton obviously wasn’t always this year, especially with Massa. But F1 where everyone waits for the designated “passing point” to pass would make watching F1 dull.

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Maybe he’s taking Senna’s famous comment too seriously? The one about if you don’t go for a gap, you’re not a racer.

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It is a trivial point. Do people generally agonise what the scene on a Christmas card may or may not say about them? I tend not to think so. I know I don’t, and a red Robin on a snowy background, says absolutely nothing about my state of mind or the state of the person’s mind that sent it to me.

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Hello James,

Off topic!!

How do the F1 cars start the Brazilian GP?

There is a visible slope for the starting grid.

Do the drivers use toe heel technique or anything like that?

Thanks,

Ashwin

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Good question. They hold the car with the brake, clutch is done with the hands remember on the steering wheel

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