Vettel wins Brazilian Grand Prix, Red Bull are Constructors’ Champions
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Vettel wins Brazilian Grand Prix, Red Bull are Constructors’ Champions
Posted By: James Allen  |  07 Nov 2010   |  7:36 pm GMT  |  204 comments

Red Bull Racing clinched their first F1 Constructors’ World Championship at Interlagos as Sebastian Vettel led a 1-2 finish ahead of Mark Webber. Fernando Alonso was third and he goes to Abu Dhabi with an eight point lead over Webber. If he finishes second whatever the other two do, he is world champion for the third time.


It was a difficult result to swallow for Webber, who would have been only one point behind Alonso if the team had backed him. But that is not their philosophy and you can debate the rights and wrongs of that. It would have helped as Webber struggled a bit for pace at Abu Dhabi last year, it’s not really his kind of circuit. Alonso has the Red Bull pair exactly where he wants them.

The race start was decisive. At the getaway, Hulkenberg held the lead into turn 1, but lost it to Sebastian Vettel down the back straight. Webber lost a place to Hamilton into Turn 1, but managed to repass into Turn 2. He then forced Hulkenberg into a mistake in Turn 3 and moved through to second place.

Alonso attacked Hamilton at the end of lap one, but then pushed Hamilton into a similar mistake to Hulkenberg at turn 3 and he was through. For the second time in two races Alonso had passed his great rival by forcing him into making a mistake.

Alonso sized up Hulkenberg for a while before making a sublime pass in turn 3 on lap five. But in those first three laps, crucially, he lost 10 seconds to Webber in second place.

Hamilton struggled to follow him, radioing his team that he had ‘no grip’. The McLarens seemed to struggle for pace in the early stages, Jenson Button was passed by Michael Schumacher.

Button was the first to pit for hard tyres on lap 11, which triggered a similar move from Ferrari with Massa and Williams with Barrichello.

Barrichello had a problem at his stop, while Massa pitted a second time, as a wheel had not been fitted properly. On lap 15 Hulkenberg pitted and was jumped by Button.

Hamilton stayed out, now racing Button – who had started 11th – for position. He pitted on lap 20 and rejoined ahead of his team mate.

Alonso meanwhile was on the same pace as the Red Bulls but he had a 10 second margin to Webber from the time lost behind Hulkenberg.

Alonso pitted on lap 25 for hard tyres and rejoined second. This triggered a move by Vettel who pitted on lap 26. Webber pitted a lap later and rejoined second, the pit stops changing nothing.

Nico Rosberg impressively kept his soft tyres going longer than his peers and was running fifth before his stop. he rejoined behind Button in seventh behind Kobayashi who was running long on hard tyres in the opening stint.

Around lap 30 Alonso asked his engineer about his relative pace to the Red Bull cars, weighing up whether to push his engine to try to catch or whether to conserve the engine with Abu Dhabi in mind.

Webber was pushing hard at mid distance, knowing that Vettel’s engine was on its third race while his own was on it second.

Barrichello was forced to pit on lap 36 as he had a puncture after contact with Alguersuari. Hulkenberg meanwhile was down in 10th place, albeit behind Sutil and Kobayashi who had not stopped.

Webber continued to push hard, getting the gap down to 1.5 seconds, as the pair came upon a train of eight cars all fighting for position. Massa was first and Webber lost 3/10ths to Vettel lapping him.

The team told him that his engine temperatures were high, so he had to short shift on gearchanges. Inevitably he felt that it would have been helpful, but he also knew he could not count on it.

On lap 50, Tonio Liuzzi crashed heavily at the Senna S triggering a safety car. This allowed Alonso to close the gap on the Red Bulls and gave Kobayashi a great chance with new soft tyres and a closed up field.

Also taking the opportunity to pit for new softs under the safety car were the two Mercedes, two McLarens and Massa. Rosberg’s race was ruined by a chaotic stop by Mercedes, seemingly not knowing which tyres to put on.

Hamilton was now fourth on new tyres at the restart. Vettel had the luxury of two cars between him and Webber at the restart.

It was a bad day for Brazilian F1 fans, with Massa 15th, Barrichello 17th, Senna 21st and Di Grassi out.

If Red Bull wanted to maximise their chances of winning the drivers’ title they would have prioritised Webber today, but they do not have that philosophy and so the task is difficult for both Red Bull drivers in Abu Dhabi.

“Today is about the team, ” said a disappointed Webber of the Constructors’ Championship success. “People like Adrian Newey, David Coulthard, who out a lot of work in, Christian Horner. We have some soldiers back at base. Adrian pushes them hard. We’ve hit a few logs in the river along way but I want to thank everyone.”

Asked whether he wished the team had allowed him to win, Webber said, “It helps but it’s not in the team’s philosophy. Fernando got some points in Hockenheim, but that’s happened many times in the past.”

Asked whether he would allow Webber through to take the title if the top three in the closing stages of the race were the same as today, Vettel said,

“We will see where we are. Operating those cars on the limit you are never certain. In my case it’s straightforward I need to get the result. We both know how to act. We had some moments we are not proud of. In that situation it is obviously something that we would think of.”

In reality he would have no choice as for a Red Bull driver to hand the drivers’ championship to Alonso in that scenario is unthinkable. But there are many other permutations in the final race of this classic championship.

BRAZILIAN GRAND PRIX, Interlagos, 71 laps

1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1h33:11.803
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 4.243
3. Alonso Ferrari + 6.807
4. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 14.634
5. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 15.593
6. Rosberg Mercedes + 35.300
7. Schumacher Mercedes + 43.400
8. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth + 1 lap
9. Kubica Renault + 1 lap
10. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap
11. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap
12. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 1 lap
13. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap
14. Massa Ferrari + 1 lap
15. Petrov Renault + 1 lap
16. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 1 lap
17. Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap
18. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth + 2 laps
19. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth + 2 laps
20. Glock Virgin-Cosworth + 2 laps
21. Senna HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps
22. Klien HRT-Cosworth + 6 laps

DRIVERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP
1. Alonso 246
2. Webber 238
3. Vettel 231
4. Hamilton 222
5. Button 199
6. Massa 143

CONSTRUCTORS’ CHAMPIONSHIP
1. Red Bull-Renault 469
2. McLaren-Mercedes 421
3. Ferrari 389
4. Mercedes 202
5. Renault 145
6. Williams-Cosworth 69

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1

Congrats to RB!!!!! Well done and deserved!

2

I would also like to point out that the Abu Dhabi track is a very similar layout to that of the Singapore GP… and we all know what happened there! So I don’t really expect to see Red Bull having such an advantage. Good traction and stability under braking is needed and Ferrari has plenty of that to offer. It’ll be very close between Fernando and the Red Bulls! It’s the kind of track where Webber may struggle so in my opinion, its advantage Fernando. May help if Massa can get in the mix but I doubt he really needs him 😛

3

Has anybody noticed that there is a chance to have THREE drivers on the same number of points after the last race?

Current Standings

Alonso – 246

Webber – 238

Vettel – 231

If Vettel wins, Webber is second and Alonso is 5th, they are all on 256 points. Vettel would be crowned World Champion as he will have five wins and 3 seconds to Alonso five wins and 2 seconds.

4

Vettel is out for title chances unless Ferrari’s engine blows…

If Vettel get the pole and Webber be 2nd in Q3 and Alonso 3rd, Vettel should give up position to Webber I think. Gentlemen would do like that I believe…

5

That’s very cool thanks for pointing that out

6

Talking about finishing on the same number of points – Under the old points system if Vettel comes in first and Webber second they would have the same number of points (104) and Alonso 5th he would have 105 points – so this years new points system has really spiced things up!!

7

I disagree with Mr. Allen.

RBR like all other teams value the WCC very highly, maybe even the most, since it brings in the money afterall. Also it was very refreshing to witness fair sportmanship on the track with racing instead of manipulation.

The WDC is for the drivers to compete about, RBR already have the highest prize, WCC.

If Alonso takes the WDC then RBR won’t be a laughing stock, on the contrary it will be the team that played fair and gave the equal chances to both drivers, just like they did last year.

The smearing campaign over Vettel has been shocking to witness even for a neutral F1-fan. Also the fact that whatever Mark says in the media is taken as the truth although he changes his opinions according to situations that suit him the best.

Mark has been given a winning car, heck they have even taken into consideration his weight when giving cars to their drivers. To bash your employer in public must do wonders inside the team since the millions spent on him (salary, car, personnel) is suddenly made look like it isn’t enough for him… Could he at least tell us which team would be better for him if not Red Bull?

That said Mark most certainly has alignated him from his team all by himself. I wonder how many of us can go and bash our employer in public and get warm hugs for it? Is he so sure that when he has a contract in his pocket he can go and do as he pleases showing utmost disrespect towards his employer?

It looks like he uses every opportunity to bash RBR. Take the freaking front wing for example; why do I remember him telling after Friday Practice that he isn’t satisfied with the new wing and prefers the old wing instead? Suddenly he wanted the wing very much. Is Mark the only driver in F1 who’s new part has been given to the team mate who leads the championship? Hardly. They just don’t make a media-event out of it.

The latest I heard was that after the press conference Mark went into his personal room and waited for the mandatory photograph to be taken without even staying to thank and congratulate the team or chat with the VIP-people after they won the WCC. Can’t wait for his upcoming interviews…

Summa summarum: If Fernando wins the WDC it’s no shame for Red Bull since they have provided us viewers real racing on track during the whole season.

No doubt the team has supported Vettel this season, afterall he is the one who is bashed in the media even by his team mate and it would be unnatural if they would show some warmth to the one causing it in the first place.

So it’s not that simple afterall yet it’s clear to me that Red Bull will be respected for letting both drivers go after the title – fair and square – even if it doesn’t suit Mark.

8

Well deserved congratulations to Red Bull. It wasn’t so long ago that it was touted that only a ‘constructor’ team could win!

Red Bull showed that you can win in the right spirit of competition between their drivers – and they continue to show that they pursue their own directions: both in marketing and technical solutions. Adrian Newey never looked happier! Remember, this was a burnt-out designer who wanted to sail off into the horizon not so long ago.

Off the track, I think the team (perhaps the buck stops with Horner) has only made two errors all season.

1/ Showing ‘favoritism’ at Silverstone. The front wings should have been left on Webber’s car.

2/ Letting Helmut Marko in the Red Bull garage. If his real mandate is really the head of the ‘Red Bull young driver program’, he should be firmly planted in the Torro Rosso garage so that he can ’emotionally’ support Buemi and Alguersuari, and not be a destabilizing thorn at Red Bull.

Bring on Abu Dhabi. May the best man win!

9

@pdac If “Alonso can only manage 5th, then all three will end up with the same number of points.

Who will be champion then?”

Sebastian would win because while he and Fernando would be tied on wins and tied on 2nd place finishes, Seb currently has one more third place finish than Fernando.

10

I think the type of race that will see in Abu Dhabi depends mainly on the Ferrari engine mounted on Alonso’s car. If it holds up in the the 35 C heat, he ll be the champion. If disaster strikes and Alonso DNFs, then Vettel and Weber will fight to the bitter end. Even Hamilton can win the championship if the two RBRs manage to take each other out.

Let’s see who’ll find his oasis in the desert…

11

It’s looking very likely that Alonso is going to win this championship with tainted points. If that happens, can it really be called a “classic championship”?

12

It would have been funny if RBR did something like:

“Seb do us a favour, let Webber pass for championship and we will try to make your life in a brazilian prison as relaxing as possible for the next 6 years.”

Would the brazilians have really done it? So even FIA allows team order again next year, what is with countries who have fair play laws to protect the people who do bets? So good bye brazilia in formula 1 if you keep this law?

I think that by let them race (at least for this brazilian grand prix with its problematic laws) was the right tactic. Not just because of the law but out of mathematical reasons too.

In a race everything can happen, so even Webber’s car could fail in Abu and robbing 7 points from Seb would have been a big mistake in this case.

If Webber will rightfully claim himself world champion he should be faster than Alonso anyway. Vettel will do all possible to stay in front of these two ( at least till the last lap) to proof that he had deserved it.

But i think he will let Webber pass if Alonso is third in last lap.

13

If Red bull are 1,2 with Vettel winning near the end next week, and they do swap they will merely be effectively taking back the 7 points Alonso was given. So its all square again.

The FIA stated the rule was not important to them, its not going to be enforced point wise which determines the champ, but by a tiny slap on the wrist fine , they have set the standard.

The FIA need to clear this up for next year.

14

All this talk about Vettel letting Webber pass to win. It sounds like a foregone conclusion with most of the media. So many possibilities. I would like to think there is more to Mark Webber than the popular projection of events.

(a) Alonso is either first or second no contest.

or

(b) Alonso is higher than 5th and Vettel lets Mark through.

How about Mark wins without assistance from Vettel. What ever else eventuates, I don’t think he would wish to win either the race or the championship as a result of Red Bull’s saying they had no other choice.

15

What would really suck is if Vettel yields 1st place to Mark Webber in Abu Dhabi with Alonso in 3rd on the last lap, and then Alonso’s engine gives way before the chequered flag.

If that happened, Vettel would’ve effectively handed HIS drivers’ title to Webber in the last lap.

16

I don’t care who wins as long as it’s not Vet-tool.

I’ve been watching F1 for a long time and I can’t remember a driver that annoys me more.

17

Mark Webber, as I understand, has never asked for anything other than equal treatment in the team. I doubt he would want it any other way. If he wins the F1 Championship he would want to know he had done it on his own merits winning fair and square. On the other hand that stunt in Turkey when Vettel nearly took out Webber is still a mystery and should haunt Red Bull as team tactics gone really wrong. That is what might need to be squared-off in Abu Dhabi.

18

All I will say is, respect for Red Bull Racing. They have won the constructors championship and after hearing what Christian Horner had to say post race forum in BBC, I presume if they have to, they will let Webber pass Vettel. But even if they don’t, I for one will have tremendous respect for the because they respect the sports something that Ferrari doesn’t show.

As for Alonso and Ferrari, they will never be respected because they doesn’t deserve this WDC.

19

Although Alonso is in poleposition for the 2010 World Drivers Crown, it is still far from over.

Red Bull won last year at Abu Dabi and Vettel would love to repeat his victory of last season. Webber will probably not match Seb for pace at this circuit and it would be great if Mclaren can step up and deliver a good result at the end of this season. Button and Hamilton were strong there last year aswell so don’t count out the team from Woking.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see both Red Bull and Mclaren finish ahead of Ferrari at this race. I would not be surprised to see Vettel jump from 3th in the standings to 1st, like Raikkonen did back in 2007.

20

Any rumors if Webber will lose his seat next year? If so, who could be his potential replacement? With Vettel establishing himself as a clear no.1, i think Massa would make a great no.2. Besides, i think Massa needs a fresh start to re-ignite the old spirit..or Hulkenberg.

21

Today, we have seen RBR winning the constructors title and Alonso winning the drivers title. If RBR had a slight degree of intelligence, they could have simply swaped Webber and Vettel to allow Webber with a good chance to win the title. With Vettel’s lack of engine reliability, it will not be enough for Webber to win the next race if Alonso finishes second, or for Vettel to win the next race and Alonso third. So this is a really stupid behaviour from the RBR team even if they clearly don’t want Webber to win or stay long. Vettel is a clear future champion, but handing the drivers title to Alonso is no way of competing especially with their behaviour towards Webber this year.

22

james,

if vettel pulls aside for webber in the last race and webber wins the WDC. can redbull be pulled up for team orders? what happens when their is NO radio communication and Vettel just slows? No proof of team orders is their?

23

Red Bull’s philosophy is all well and good, but you can’t help but wonder if they would still cling to this position if Vettel was the one who was ahead.

24

Massa a key for Ferrari ?????

Am I the only one to see a Lewis with a fair chance to steal the title and Massa as a crucial driver to impede him ? (and therefore win the title for Alonso.)

the 3 guys in front will be flat out with a do or die attitude, nobody will watch a title slipping away without taking a huge risk and overtake at all cost.

DNFs of the leading drivers are very likely in such a situation, and Lewis could just pick the pieces.

Unless Massa beats him.

25

good point Igor K,

exactly what i thought. hamilton still has a chance. the last race will not be easy for the 3 drivers, especially for alonso since he has not the car to disappear in distance even if he somehow manages to be at front of two redbulls.

now if you think a race like Singapore, i dont think vettel will spend all race at the back of alonso without an optimistic passing move. it is same for all the 3 drivers.

the only thing i dont agree with you is massa, this year he was usually useless. imo his chance to interfere with the other 4 drivers are slim.

26

Another safety car caused by a Force India, it seems to me 2/3 of all accidents this year have involved Force India and/or Sauber I’d be interested to know the actual figures.

No big surprise that after all Christian Horners holier than thou declarations about team orders, his tune has changed now they suit his objectives. I suspect he would have liked to started backing Webber a few races back but the powers that be at Redbull have prevented him from doing so.

Was an interesting bit of insight in to driver mentality in the press conference when Hamilton said Alonso passed him on the straight (i.e. blamed the car) when he was actually passed on a bend as a result of running wide (driver error).

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I belong to a group of fans who used to get together to crticise one-anothers’ favourties during the race. Now we communicate by email in the main. But some things remain the same: we’ve never agreed.

But now even this remaining tradition has ended, and on two aspects:

1/ If the relative positions of Webber and Vettel had been reversed team orders would have come into play, one way or another.

None of us are insiders so this opinion, shared by all, is based on nothing other than prejudice but for RBR I don’t think this nicety matters. If this is the general opinion, and it seems to be that of the majority on here, then their PR has failed miserably.

They are seen as partial and, to put too fine a point on it, as misleading. They are damaged.

2/ That they have needlessly handed Alonso a strong chance of the championship.

None of us feel team orders have much role in F1 and that what Ferrari did earlier on was both morally wrong and cheating. But in the situation that existed at the begining of this race, and especially after both had passed Hulkenberg, there is no real excuse for not having a plan to maximise their chances of a WDC.

If RBR lose the WDC they will be a bit of a laughing stock.

We have a rabid Alonso supporter (is there any other type?) in our group and he had a side bet with a Button fan – poor lads the pair of them – that Vettel would let Webber through. Anything else would be ‘idiotic’. At evens none of the rest of us would take it.

Ferrari and Alonso will come away from 2010 with a lot of credit. If they also come away with the WDC then the blame will lie with RBR.

It was good to see Williams on pole. And Hulk drove very well. One wonders if this has pushed up his price.

28

I was very surprised how difficult the Mclarens found it to overtake the pack despite fresher tyres.

It’s a shame that if Alonso wins the title by less than 7 points, all the negative publicity will be on Red Bull for not breaking the rules like Ferrari. That’s a messed up situation for anyone to explain to non-F1 fans.

Maybe with the constructors title in the bag, they’re not going to lose too much sleep over losing the drivers? I don’t entirely believe that, but if the do lose the title because of their “no team orders” philosophy, it makes a good basis for changing that next year doesn’t it? Horner can claim that they have no choice but to back one driver from then on as they have to combat Ferrari. No shame in changing your attitude next year if fairplay has cost you the title this year.

29

Vettel produced a truly crushing display today and whilst RBR’s apparent even-handedness is to be admired – I cannot help but feel that if Webber had been trailing Vettel in the championship by the same margin then this would not be allowed to play out as it is and Webber would have been asked to help ensure a result in Brazil which would have maximised the team’s likelihood of taking the driver’s title in Abu Dhabi…whether he would have moved over or not is debatable of course…

RBR now have no insurance so even if they are running 1-2 in Abu Dhabi then unreliability could easily hand the title to Alonso. He is the one who can really take the most satisfaction out of today’s result.

It kind of reminds me of 1999 where some people seemed to doubt that Ferrari really wanted Eddie Irvine to win the title. Does Red Bull’s marketing department REALLY want an ocker old Aussie winning the title – or will its objectives be better met by blowing it all in a supposedly sporting gesture and waiting a year for its favourite to take the crown and vindicate its hitherto fairly unsuccessful (in F1 terms) young drivers’ programme in which it has invested so heavily?

30

As pointed out earlier by other posters, webber chose not to help Vettel last year and even then the team did not “make” him. So why should Vettel be made to do anything for Webber?

All the people slamming Vettel for not moving over do not remember what Webber didn’t do for Vettel when he could have in the name of team spirit. This was probably the start of the deterioration of the relationship dynamics between the two.

And I would not feel that RBR would be deemed a fool for not letting webber through – they would have to lose so much bonus to Webber if he got the WDC and then webber in turn would have bragging rights and he would def make diva demands on the team or he’ll take the no.1 to another team ala Jenson. RBR would be the bigger fool then.

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