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Ferrari gets feisty with Williams!
Posted By: James Allen  |  04 Aug 2009   |  5:05 pm GMT  |  73 comments

On the Ferrari official website today, under the headline “Indiscretion” we have this choice little item,

“Guess who opposed the test with the F60? A team that hasn’t won anything for years and yet didn’t pass over the opportunity to demonstrate once more a lack of spirit of fair play.

“Just for the record, the Scuderia Ferrari had given its approval to let Alguersuari test, but it seems even in this instance someone decided to stick to the precise wording of the regulations.”

This is clearly a reference to Williams, who last won a race at the end of 2004. They opposed letting Michael Schumacher test the current car, the F60, ahead of his comeback at Valencia on August 23rd.

Williams said in a statement, “While we welcome Michael Schumacher back to Formula One, the fact is any form of in-season circuit testing is strictly prohibited, a regulation clearly laid out by the FIA and adhered to by all of the teams.”

This isn’t the first time that Ferrari has got a bit feisty on its website. You will recall them slating the proposed new F1 teams during the Monaco Grand Prix weekend. Who can forget this little gem?

“Can a World Championship with teams like them – with due respect – can (sic) have the same value as today’s Formula 1, where Ferrari, the big car manufacturers and teams, who created the history of this sport, compete? Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to call it Formula GP3?” (look in the May archive on this site for full details).

Williams will be furious at the suggestion from Ferrari that they have “once again” showed that they lack a “spirit of fair play”. If there was a Grand Prix this weekend you could expect a broadside from Patrick Head about Ferrari’s track record in that department (he has very strong views), but perhaps luckily for him there are another two weeks in which to cool off and forget about it.

Ferrari and Williams were at each other’s throats at the start of this season over the double diffuser (Williams had one, Ferrari didn’t) and more recently were on opposite sides over the budget cap (Williams on FIA’s side, Ferrari against).

So it seems that this is a little bit of ‘afters’, as they say in the rugby world.

Domenicali and Parr agree to disagree

Domenicali and Parr agree to disagree

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1

There is an interesting interview with Bernie on the BBC Website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8183627.stm) where an Italian reporter, being as tactful and impartial as you would expect asks whether it was correct for Williams to veto Schumacher’s test (note: makes no reference to the Red Bull teams). The problem is the Italian media as much as Ferrari themselves.

2

Although I agree with no test now as to the rules, I also think the current testing rule taken to the full letter is crazy and quite stupid. What would my beloved F1 be without at least one hopelessly stupid and bewildering dumb rule at all times. Hopefully less of that now going forward.

Cheers

3

I used to like Ferrari, but Domenicali and whoever does their blogging have really ruined them for me.

4

I wiah I could have been a fly on the wall when Patrick Head saw this!

I find it amazing that even disregarding Ferrari’s lack of success for two decades or their interesting Political moves, they can blast Williams like this. Out of all the teams, Williams is arguably the most straight-up, straight talking, politics-free F1 team. They didn’t fall out with FOTA remember, Frank moved to stabilise his team in no-nonsense fashion. Its FOTA that made a song and dance about it all.

Well done, Williams. Its in situations like this I become even more of a fan.

5

i hope that this shumacher hype will be over soon.

6

If Massa is able to make it back before the end of the year, I’d hope he could test before racing again.

Would it be possible for these comments to be better vetted rather than it being like other sites, such as the BBC, which mainly consists of ranting.

7

So Ferrari can not let their God test,

to bad so sad . Please get well Felipe

and get back into the car soon, so we dont

have to look at Moon Face again (Seven time

World Chump)

8

PML. Moon face!

I’ve always called him Picasso face as his mouth seems up by his nose…..

9

The teams should have replied to the request from Ferarri with a compromise, something like: Certainly Mr Schmacher, we will agree to alow you a days testing, only if we can come along and test too.

That in my eyes is the only way this could be done fair and square

10

I think Ferrari were a bit full of themselves, and expected everyone to agree. But since that didn’t happen Ferrari got mad.

I guess Ferrari think they are still the center of things.

11

Sorry, didn’t know where to send this.

Was wondering why so few people appear to have given this much coverage

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/5956407/Formula-1-facing-anti-bias-probe.html

Is it a real threat or drop-in-the-ocean type stuff?

12
Jonathan Legard

Schumacher.

He’s Back.

Michael Schumacher.

Pushing on.

From Kerpen.

Kerpen, Germany.

Round the corner.

Down the straight.

Kerpen, Germany, Europe.

On a charge.

Schumcaher.

Back.

Massa had a crash.

But he’s getting better.

Pushing on.

AND HERE’S SIR FRANK WILLIAMS

He’s on a charge!

Veto out.

Blocking testing.

Round the corners, but not on the straights.

Pushing on.

He’s not won for a while.

He’s on a charge though.

What’s this?

Website.

Ferrari.

Getting Fiesty.

On a charge.

13

3 things strike me regarding this.

1. Ferrari’s arrogance shows they feel they have more weight than the other teams. How they felt everyone would be OK with this is unreal and their reaction to Williams and Red Bull saying no, proves this. Notice how they didn’t have a pop at Red Bull/Torro Rosso too?

2. Why did only 2 teams (3 if you include Torro Rosso), object to this? Ferrari were the main complainers about the double diffuser, effectively accusing Brawn etc that they were cheating. Williams seem to have a longer memory!

3. McLaren: If Big Ron was still at McLaren, he would have objected. Whitmarsh needs to grow a pair.

I’m glad Williams and Red Bull told the Ferrari dictatorship to do one. They’ve bullied every team that’s been in direct competition with them for seasons now. Their limitless pockets lend to the arrogance.

PS

I’d love it if Schumacher loses it on turn 1 on lap 1……

14

This would be the same Ferrari that flouted the agreed testing restrictions what, 5 or so years ago?

Very pleased to see the general sentiment among the responses. Simple. If Ferrari want to replace Massa with someone who has driven the car, use one of the two drivers who have driven the car.

Much as I dislike this, it’s great for the sport in the long summer break, and the guys running Valencia must be laughing all the way to the bank.

15

This outburst from Ferrari is pathetically childish. As other posters have noted, Williams were winning Championships regularly during a time when Ferrari were nowhere. Their history and sporting pedigree warrants more respect than Ferrari have shown them. As for complaining about the letter/spirit of the rules when you’ve protested your rivals’ cars earlier in the season and resorted to a rather bad-tempered hearing before the FIA Court of Appeal – this seems to be hypocrisy pure and simple.

Williams were well within their rights to refuse the testing request. I applaud Norbert Haug for being so understanding and reasonable in his comments about allowing Schumacher to test (the bitterness of the Stepney affair can seem so long ago at times). But if other teams object, they cannot be criticised for it. Williams always seem to have acted with commendable independence – when I read their comments about the veto on the test it struck me as classic Frank Williams, hard but fair.

16

Would be interesting to know who opposed Alguersuari’s test?? if it were only williams…ferrari is right now!

17

Again, this is proof that the big manufacturers could never be trusted to run their own series. If Ferrari, BMW, Toyota, Mercedes and Renault were running the show, they would have effectively forced Williams, RB and TR to agree to let Schumacher test.

Shows the Mosley is right – running F1 with an iron fist is the only way to control these idiots.

18

I don’t see what Ferrari have got complain about and I quite agree with Williams stance. I think Williams will have had the following in mind:

1. Williams are trying to haul themselves up the manufacturers table and quite rightly assume that having Schumi in the car will take valuable points away from them. Why give him an advantage?

2. It’s what the rules state. Ferrari agreed to them in the first place so you just can’t change to suit the circumstances.

3. Ferrari already have 2 test drivers so they didn’t have to choose Schumi.

@zxz “Williams is trash”… well if you were in Williams shoes are you telling me you’d agree to this. I don’t think so. If would be no different if Ferrari were in Williams shoes. They have Gene and Badoer – why not use one of them as they’re the nominated test drivers.

@pbyrne You may not like Parr but he’s acting with the best intentions of his employers.

19
Richard Williams

I’m so disappointed by this posting on the Ferrari site. Thanks to Domenicali, the team has recovered its sporting direction after the terrible years of race fixing and unsporting behaviour under Jean Todt. Now they have the temerity to criticise the one team that upholds the strongest moral and sporting values in racing.

Love them (I do) or loathe them, Williams are racing nutters to the core. They live for it. They don’t make swanky road cars or hi fi systems or have a chain of merchandise shops they race for a living. They may not have won much lately, but I know who I’d trust to take a great sporting decision.

20

I admit using the website was not he best idea. Ferrari test drivers are just that, not young drivers that they are bringing up to drive for them one day. How much could Schumacher actually develop the car in one day?

zxz, and pbyrne nailed it

21

I agree sorry no test under current rules.

22

It is ironic that Ferrari of all teams are crying foul.

I would say though, the Massa situation is very unfortunate and it only makes sense to allow Schumacher one day to test the new Ferrari.

Then again, Williams were the big losers when Ferrari complained about their Michelin tyres in 2003. And that immediately turned the championship as Schu had victories in 2 of the last 3 races.

23

Has anybody pointed out that it is a bit disingenuous for Ferrari to state that they did not object to the Alguersuari test………..Torro Rosso use Ferrari customer engines!!

Materschitz joining the Williams objection to MS testing must be a case of “the customer is always right”. LOL 🙂

24

So much for the new-found friendship amongst the teams.

From Williams’ point of view – and I’m not suggesting they are right, just defending them – they are probably protecting their new found performance.

But there’s afters and afters. Perhaps Williams and Head are remembering what occured the last time a breakaway series was threatened and then sabotaged by back door dealings by Ferrari. I know I would.

But why should the teams allow Ferrari to get additional information during a test just because they didn’t think their test drivers were up to the job? Ferrari suggesting their support for allowing Alguthingy to test is hardly the same, is it.

And I have to say that I don’t agree with zxz. The situations are analogous. Ferrari had experienced test drivers – two of them – to call on. They chose to go for Scheuy. They are the masters of their problem.

How exciting though. Valencia is a dreadful circuit and not one of the races that enthuse. Now, however, it is a must see. Clever old Ferrari. This is a real PR coup.

25

Why is it that a team who for many years most respected as a smooth and efficient outfit, (even if you were not an all out fan), should in the last couple of years indeed since the loss of Schumacher, Brawn and Todt be frequently displaying signs of poor sportsmanship and a real disrespect for their teams hard earnt history as well as a disrespect of their enormous and international public following in the way they have behaved each time there is something of note to be commented on. Certainly their attitude needs some serious adjusting and fast if they wish to retain even some of that respect we all used to have. Equally the FIA (more commonly now known as Ferrari International Assistance)need to make their clear Ferrari bias a little less obvious, Michael should not get the test, why have rules if they only apply when it suits Ferrari.

26

Its not actually a statement made by Ferrari. I emailed them in disgust and the response was

Dear Ms G******,

that was not a press release but as you have also noticed an “Indiscretion” text: we just wanted to give voice to the hundreds of emails we received on this subject by all the supporters all over the world.

Best regards,

Luca Colajanni

Direzione Comunicazione – Responsabile Ufficio Stampa Sportiva

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