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Mosley furious at FOTA jibes
Mosley furious at FOTA jibes
Posted By:   |  25 Jun 2009   |  10:38 pm GMT  |  84 comments

Looks like FOTA may have got the tone wrong with their triumphalism over the deal agreed on Wednesday to avert a breakaway in Formula 1.

Max Mosley has reacted angrily to the tone of messages coming out of FOTA and about what he sees as misleading briefings to the media. Having cast his eye through the morning’s papers, some of which we reviewed here on JA on F1, he sent off an angry letter to FOTA prior to their meeting in Bologna,

“Given your and FOTA’s deliberate attempt to mislead the media, I now consider my options open. At least until October, I am president of the FIA with the full authority of that office.

“After that it is the FIA member clubs, not you or FOTA, who will decide on the future leadership of the FIA.”

Mosley is not saying that he’s changing his mind about standing again in October, but he is saying that FOTA should be careful and treat the FIA with the respect it claimed to have for it in closing the deal.

Mosley is furious with the tone of messages like Luca di Montezemolo’s jibe about no more ‘dictators’. He is also angry that FOTA representatives have claimed that FIA Senate president Michel Boeri is now in change of F1, rather than that the Senate itself, of which he is, and will remain, a part. He has also bridled at suggestions that he was forced out of office.

“We made a deal yesterday in Paris to end the recent difficulties in Formula 1. A fundamental part of this was that we would both present a positive and truthful account to the media.

“I was therefore astonished to learn that FOTA has been briefing the press that Mr Boeri has taken charge of Formula 1, something which you know is completely untrue; that I had been forced out of office, also false; and, apparently, that I would have no role in the FIA after October, something which is plain nonsense, if only because of the FIA statutes.

“Furthermore, you have suggested to the media that I was a ‘dictator’, an accusation which is grossly insulting to the 26 members of the World Motor Sport Council who have discussed and voted all the rules and procedures of Formula 1 since the 1980s, not to mention the representatives of the FIA’s 122 countries who have democratically endorsed everything I and my World Motor Sport Council colleagues have done during the last 18 years.”

Mosley makes it clear that he wants them to change their tone and be more respectful,
“You must correct the false statements which have been made and make no further such statements. You yourself must issue a suitable correction and apology at your press conference this afternoon.”

No such apology has been forthcoming so far.

It’s hard to imagine that the situation will return to what we had prior to Wednesday’s meeting, but Mosley’s pride has been hurt and FOTA know that.

There is no need to be provocative, they have what they wanted and Mosley is not staying on after October. But clearly they couldn’t resist it. In Italy in particular, Montezemolo is being painted as St George, who slayed the dragon.

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God save us, even the President of the US can only serve two terms!

Max, you had a deal … now shut up and don’t spoil it!

(and don’t let the door hit your backside on the way out!)


I can imagine that the more intelligent and less strident members of the F1 circus quietly view characters like Montezemolo with total disbelief. Gross strutting inflated egocentrics who do untold damage to F1 with their big mouths and little sense of timing.

If you win conclusively over a clever, dangerous adversary the very last thing you do is crow about it before any apparent agreement becomes a reality. You have the intelligence and patience to wait until enough time has passed for your victory to become an established fact. Then you can quietly demonstrate your new powers to the world.

Did these men seriously believe that a man with the staggering powers of drive and grit harnessed to extraordinary intelligence who virtually created the F1 world we know today would allow lesser fools get away with their premature ejaculations ?



“Shut the Front Door!”


The last desperate thrashings of a wounded pride, Max is behaving like the bully who gets the inevitable bashing and then runs away on to start screaming “I’ll get you back for that” when he’s comfortably out of range.

Public support for FOTA was massive, public support for Max was weak and practically non existent, Max reads the press, Max see’s the figures quoted therein and Max’s pride takes a beating.

Max should take it like a man, instigator of his own downfall Max has ensured that he’ll be remembered as the man who did most to destroy F1.


Max Mosley must be a big fan of that air-head Hazel Blears – not only he doesn’t know the meaning of going quietly without causing further damage but he still puts his “rocking the boat” badge on before doing so.

It’s all ME, ME, ME with these people… had enough of him moaning and seeking attention. Enough! The day we never see or hear from him again will be a great day for F1!


Surely this is more a case of Max Mosely over reacting to the media over reaction. I don’t know why he thinks FOTA are trying to take over the sport? FOTA have acknowledged the right of the FIA to govern F1. What more does he want – for FOTA to get on their knees and sing an FIA are the masters chant?

Max, get over it. What ever scathing artlicles are written about you are the opinion of the writer not what FOTA has thought or said.


It’s a disgrace. Deliberately leaking information to the media is common practice at the moment by both parties: Mosley and FOTA.

Mosley is an intelligent man and an excellent manipulator. Word has it that Luca di Montezemolo is equally manipulative.
Mosley’s “divide and conquer” tactic did work in the past (how did Ferrari end up with a veto right on F1 regulations?, GPMA), but this time the tactic didn’t work as the FOTA stood their ground.
I’m still a bit wary of Ferrari because of their past behaviour and privileges (beto right and more money than the other teams!), but Max is responding as Max and not as the president of the FIA.

I don’t think Max will ever be gone from FIA or F1 for as long as he lives. His arrogance is beyond my imagination and hasn’t and still doesn’t serve the F1 at all.
Another sad they and it’s far from over yet.


As well as following this blog I do keep an eye on a number of F1 message boards. Nowhere have I seen anything more that 1% in support at all of Max and his bullying and posturing, mostly none at all.

I guess us 99% are just loonies.


Max is clearly a vindictive hostile man. But he made a blunder here…

FOTA “not schmota” are done with Max. Nothing is signed yet. Max will only add to his humiliation. Now I am sure FOTA will required Max’s head on a platter in the form of a signed document agreeing to his immediate departure before they ink any deal for 2010 and beyond. Max should just have absorbed the comments and disappeared with what little dignity remains. Now it will be a formal beheading or no deal. Stupid Max, real stupid.


Break away now. They haven’t signed anything yet. Be done with this idiot, the puppets at the FIA and their questionable (some would say crooked) tribunals that gave us the TMD movable aero device ans Spa 2008 decision among many others. Who needs the FIA, Max or Bernie? Be done with them all. Enough drama.


Bernie is smiling and counting the money while everyone else
fights with each other, in accordance with his plans.
Lets leave Max alone.


Let’s look at what Max has achieved…

– Future commitment of all FOTA teams for three more seasons.

– Agreement to reduce costs, making it easier for the smaller teams to compete viably.

Let’s look at what FOTA have achieved…

Nothing. They’re still in Bernie’s series, presumably on the same terms, and are still governed by the FIA.

It seems to me that Max put FOTA in a position where they’d relent and accept pretty much whatever he wanted so long as they could oust him.

He was prepared to sacrifice his own position to achieve that. I think is very clever – Especially as he was perhaps ready to retire anyway!!


I am hopeful that the sniping will end very soon. I’m finding F1 tiresome and I’m really not enjoying reading the posts coming from a lot of F1 fans.

Everyone seems to be on the FOTA bandwagon at the moment. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of respect paid to the FIA or Max. F1 fans are calling for Max’s head like they are fit to judge his performance when their only trusted information source if FOTA.

I’m not trying to say either side if perfect, but I don’t think many F1 fans are reading between the lines at the moment. There’s a lack of balanced opinions. So I definitely appreciate reading your thoughts on the issue James thanks to the great balance you provide.

Kevin (not harveyeight's ferret)

Luca di M simply said FOTA doesn’t want F1 to have a dictator.

He didn’t say specifically that Mosely was a dictator.


In horror movies, you always have to kill the villain twice…


what’s the deal as it stands for next year – have FOTA now signed up, and is it on the condition that max leaves? i think i read from di montezemolo that FOTA didn’t specify exactly that max had to leave his position? can FOTA still go through with their breakaway series if max decides to come back, or can all their demands be met with the guy still in charge. (obviously, transparency in the FIA is going to be a major stumbling block there…)

i think this is a nice excuse for them to do what they should have done all along and dropped the FIA from F1. even with max gone, he’s made it perfectly clear that he will appoint someone even worse than him (just because he can, and seems to be inherently obtuse), and that FOTA has no say in the matter.


Am I alone in thinking I’ve seen this all before somewhere…



Max has clearly got fed up with being FOTA’s whipping boy.


What should we expect from the FI MAFIA…..One dictatorship replaced for another, this time Ferrari led. People are blinded by this FOTA nonsense when its clear one red team and 2 italians are now in charge…thanks god we do still have an FIA GOVERNING the sport.

People should be very careful what they wish for……….

Montezemolo’s ego know’s no bounds…be warned….


For me it’s clear. FOTA has succeeded, whereas Mosley has lost. Now it seems Mr. Mosley cannot accept the reality, that he was wrong and that he had to accept all FOTA’s points in the way things had to be done (he could have done so before with much lesser damage for him, but he must prefer giving orders to negotiations).

James, the other day you said Mosley was thinking on long term. I cannot agree with that. I think he just improvises. He has done so these last years and more visibly since the creation of FOTA. In order to try to “save” his public image he now threats to opt for re-election, neglecting that after the deal the FIA cannot and will not re-elect him. It’s over now.

One more thing, I do not see anything wrong about Montezemolo’s comments about the “dictatorship”, he was completely accurate (at least, concerning last couple of years).

Maybe we should not focus anymore on a person that he alone was on the verge of flushing F1.


Obviously no-one knows what went on behind closed doors to arrive at an agreement. As I see it Bernie simply outlined to Montezemolo what the cost of proceeding with the breakaway series would be. He would have the shirt off their backs, Ferrari and the other teams, if they didn’t capitulate and he had the legal means to do it. At that point common sense prevailed for the first time, and Bernie outlined his compromise plan that would give everyone something to take home. Of course his plan didn’t involve Bernie giving the teams any more money, but then you’d hardly expect that it would.

As we know the teams gave up on the charade of a breakaway, Max would leave as he always intended in October, the FIA got recognition of its primacy in running F1. The ruinous KERS fiasco was quietly laid to rest without due ceremony, no doubt to the relief of all concerned, and will probably never see the light again. Most importantly of all, the teams committed to reducing the insane level of spending which has grown up over the years, a fantastic achievement for Max Mosley, however it is eventually implemented. CVC avoided meltdown and the disastrous outcome of two competing race series was averted. An eminently sensible solution to the whole issue was achieved. Just a pity it had to be so messy, and needed F1 to make a laughing stock of itself in public, as ever.

It was noticeable that Max and Bernie kept discreetly quiet about the means by which the deal was reached. Why indulge in triumphalism when you got what you wanted? Unfortunately as we have seen, FOTA couldn’t resist the temptation to scream their imaginary victory from the rooftops.

I believe that this assessment of the deal flows logically from one simple fact: Bernie is in an unassailable legal position to get what he wants.


He called them loonies didn’t he? Deal with it, Max.


If, by calling Max a “Dictator” FOTA have been “grossly insulting to the 26 members of the World Motor Sport Council” then can I please add to this insult by saying that all 26 members of the World Motor Sport Council should be equally insulted for being Max’s henchmen in the Banana Republic of FIA [mod].

[read the rules of the blog – mod]


Max, for god’s sake, give it a rest.

And I thought the drivers had the biggest egos in F1.


Reading the posts left on differerent threads on this blog it is quite clear that nearly everyone expected some type of u-turn from Mosley regarding his “retirement” … we just didnt expect it to happen quite so soon.

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