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Posted By: Editor   |  10 Aug 2014   |  8:48 pm GMT  |  69 comments

With five world champions in the field, F1 has a number of big names and quality drivers at the front of the grid at present.

But one of the most encouraging aspects of this 2014 season is that, despite fears that the rise of “pay drivers” would damage the long term standards, we have seen the emergence of a new generation – first or second year drivers – in whose hands the future looks secure.

There are some high quality young talents working their way up at the moment, led by Daniel Ricciardo, who has a bit more experience than the new generation we’ve picked out here.

We thought it was an appropriate moment to recognise this and look at some of them in more detail.

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Valtteri Bottas

Finn Valtteri Bottas, racing in his second season, has been a revelation this year, bouncing back from the missed opportunity of a first podium in Australia to utilise his very quick Williams and score in 10 of 11 races this season.

The 24-year-old has been impressive in the last four races in particular, scoring his first podium in Austria with third and then following that up with two second places at Silverstone and Hockenheim respectively.

In doing so, he became the first Williams driver to score three successive podiums since Juan Pablo Montoya in 2003. Bottas was on course for a fourth successive podium in Hungary but lost out when the safety car came out.

However, he remains an impressive fifth in the drivers’ standings, one place ahead of defending champion Sebastian Vettel in the Red Bull, and has more than double the points of his more experienced team-mate Felipe Massa.

“He’s a great driver, someone who could become an exceptional driver, so we’re lucky to have him,” said Williams head of vehicle performance Rob Smedley.

“His racecraft is phenomenal, he’s super-quick, but the good thing about Valtteri is he’s a young lad with his feet absolutely on the ground. He’s not spoiled in any way shape or form, which is great.

“He’s also able to accept advice very readily, not only about the very basics, but also about his racecraft and how he communicates with us. My opinion is growing of him week-by-week.”

Jules Bianchi

Jules Bianchi

Jules Bianchi was considered to be one of the best young driving talents on the world motorsport scene when he made his debut with Marussia last season.

And after a solid first year in the sport, the Frenchman has stepped it up this season, most notably scoring Marussia’s first ever Formula 1 points with ninth place on the streets of Monte Carlo.

After that race, double world champion Alonso said: “He’s a friend and I’m extremely happy for him and very proud of what his result will mean for him in his career. I have no doubt it will be a good career. Hopefully with this result he can have a more competitive car next year and show his talent even more.”

While it will be difficult for Bianchi to improve on that result in the car that he has, the Frenchman continues to impress by comfortably beating his team-mate Max Chilton.

The 25-year-old has out-qualified Chilton eight times in 11 races this season, and only once failed to beat the Brit to the chequered flag when they have both finished.

He has been a member of the Ferrari Driver Academy since 2009 and when he was called into an official test at Silverstone for the Scuderia, the JA on F1 columnist produced a commanding performance, finishing top of the charts after completing 89 laps of development work.

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Daniil Kvyat

Almost 12 months ago, to some Daniil Kvyat was a surprising choice as the replacement for Red Bull-bound Daniel Ricciardo at Toro Rosso. But anyone who had studied him in GP3 could see his quality. The 20-year-old made a big step up from GP3 – as Bottas did – a championship which he won last year, to the premier class of motor racing.

However, he instantly made an impression by scoring points on his debut – then aged 19 – with ninth place in Australia, breaking four-time world champion Vettel’s record as the youngest ever points-scorer in Formula 1.

It was all the more impressive considering Toro Rosso’s difficult pre-season meant he didn’t get as much running in the car as he would have liked.

The Russian, who came through the Red Bull junior scheme, has impressed the team around him with his mature approach to racing and he would have more than four points finishes in 11 races had it not been for the car’s poor reliability.

His pace in qualifying has been impressive, reaching Q3 five times this season, and he has also performed well against more experienced team-mate Jean-Eric Vergne (who outraced Ricciardo several times last season) as well as drawing praise from Red Bull team boss Christian Horner.

“He has been sensational and has been the rookie of the season so far,” Horner said. “His raw pace and speed, considering the jump he has made from GP3, is hugely impressive.

“He had little pre-season testing and Jean-Eric [Vergne] is a very quick driver, so the benchmark he’s up against is good as well.”

Kvyat has looked good in changeable conditions and seems to have that combination of speed, aggression and mental calmness which characterises this new generation. He has a vert bright future in the sport, provided he keeps improving at the same consistent rate.

Kevin Magnussen

Kevin Magnussen

Kevin Magnussen is a bit more of a question mark than the others, but he made a big impression on his debut in Australia, the 21-year-old scoring McLaren’s first podium in more than a year with second place, ahead of team-mate Jenson Button. This was based on a sensational, front of grid qualifying performance in tricky conditions.

“Despite his youth and inexperience, he drove like a man who’d notched up 100 grands prix already,” said McLaren team boss Eric Boullier after the race. “It was a complex and challenging race, yet he managed those complexities and challenges faultlessly.”

It was an impressive drive and although he has failed to replicate that kind of form in the following 10 races, he has still shown good pace relative to his more experienced and decorated team-mate.

The Dane scored points in five successive races from Monaco and sits in 10th place in the drivers’ standings, 23 points behind Button. They have been well-matched in qualifying, with Button edging the head-to-head 6-5.

But in the last two races, Magnussen has looked particularly quick in qualifying, starting fourth on the grid in Germany before his unfortunate tangle with Felipe Massa and then reaching Q3 in Hungary only to be caught out by the tricky conditions.

If he can learn from his mistakes and do enough to secure the seat for a second season in 2015 with Honda engines, the Dane should have a platform to build a bright future.

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  1. Andrew M says:

    “This was based on a sensational, front of grid qualifying performance in tricky conditions.”

    Wasn’t he fourth?

    I kind of feel we’re in the midst of a transition period for drivers, where the last “generation” (Hamilton, Vettel) had a huge advantage over the ones following them due to the fact they had so much testing before they came in, and it’s so difficult to hit the ground running today. I don’t expect anyone from the new order mentioned here upsetting the apple cart any time soon, unless anyone of them has a Rosberg situation on their hands and manages to get a 2014 Merc-class drive.

    1. James Allen says:

      Yes fourth is row 2, that’s at the front of the grid in my eyes

      1. Andrew M says:

        I automatically read “front of the grid” as “front row” but fair enough :)

    2. Duffy says:

      front of the grid is easily the first three rows, note the times…

  2. Priboy_F1 says:

    In my opinion F1 remains one of the sports in which courage is most relevant” – He said

    Rookie Kvyat hits back at F1 ‘wimps’ criticism – http://thisisf1.com/2014/08/07/rookie-kvyat-hits-back-at-f1-wimps-criticism/

    I thinks that, Kvyat F1′s ‘man of the future’

  3. FormulaEDiary (Anil Parmar) says:

    The rise of these young guns really does put pressure on the older, more experienced drivers on the grid. Alonso, Raikonnen, Massa and Button are known quantities and I can’t see any of them (other than Alonso) on the grid past for the 2016 season and beyond. In fact, I’d be hugely surprised if Massa is still on the grid next season because despite his experience he still makes mistakes and blames it on everyone else.

    There’s also Grosjean and Hulkenberg who are both very handy, but I worry for them (particularly Hulk) as they need to land a top drive soon before everyone just invests in the younger generation.

    Where can you see Nico going, James?

    1. Bart says:

      Hi Anil, don’t forget Massa brings some sponsor Money to Grove and he’s got a contract. He’ll be driving for them unless something big happens (like Alonso knocking at Sir Frank’s door – unlikely, I reckon).

      If you ask me, Hulk will stay where he is. No seat available for hi at big team, I am afraid.

      Cheers, Bart

      1. Andrew Carter says:

        What sponsors does Massa bring? Banco do Brasil is from test driver Felipe Nasr and Petrobras incoming help I believe is separate from Massa’s involvement.

      2. PhilipB says:

        Which I think is Alonso’s best (only) chance at title #3 since a seat at RBR or MB is unlikely to be forthcoming.

    2. Thompson says:

      I think the Hulk is overrated.

      He currently has the opportunity to shine in the FI – but is not doing so.

      Considering FI share the best engine I’m surprised he is not doing better work with it.

      Maybe like Williams they are being too conservative, like last year.

      D Resta was given some stupid strategys last season – trying to go half a race on 1 set of tyres may seem impressive but more aggressive tactics would have yielded better results.

      Perez has had some misfortune but in recent races has passed Hulk on track but gets scuppered due to poor tyre calls by the team.

      Apart from Bianchi who really deserves a better car none of the rookies excite. In fact since the Vettel, Kubica and Hamilton rookie years looks like we are heading back to the 90′s early 00′s mediocrity.

      Once the current crop of front runners lose it. …….. :-/

  4. ant1k2h says:

    Let me wright my wishlist, whom i also would like to see in F1 soon – Felipe Nasr, Stoffel Vandorn, Robin Frijns, Oliver Rowland, Sergey Sirotkin, Alex Lynn and also Carlos Sainz Jr., as without him? ) I think they are very perspective!

    1. Alex Butters says:

      Absolutely, couldn’t agree more – there is soooo much talent in the lower categories at the moment isn’t there?

      In past decades, the midfield & backmarkers were littered with poor quality drivers, but the current crop of drivers have more experience winning races and championships than any other era…..

      F1 champions

      Vettel
      Alonso
      Hamilton
      Raikkonen
      Button

      GP2 champions

      Rosberg
      Hulkenburg
      Grosjean
      Maldonado

      GP3 champions

      Bottas
      Kvyat
      Gutierrez

      Champions of various types of F3/F3000

      Ricciardo
      Vergne
      Sutil
      Ericsson
      Biannchi
      Massa
      Perez

      Champions of various types of Formula Renault

      Magnussen
      Kobayashi

      1. the_rh1no says:

        So that just leaves one driver without a championship…

      2. Alex Butters says:

        I don’t think Chilton has won any championships no lol, just a couple of wins in GP2… Somebody feel free to correct me?

    2. Andrew Carter says:

      Don’t forget Rafaelo Marciello, Max Verstappen and Esteban Ocon.

      1. ant1k2h says:

        Maby, maby… Oh, of course, I forgot about EuroF3 guys! Tom Blomqvist is a good driver too! Also, i forgot about Nyck de Vries. But, he is 19 and still drive in WSR 2.0. Should to think about it. McLaren, why is he still in junior class races?

  5. docjkm says:

    Does it bother only me to hear “the youngest to score points” or some other ‘points’ statistic?

    The scoring system has changed, awarding down to 10th place, with marked dilution of the meritocracy of “scoring points”. The top Half of the field scores.

    While I see merit to scoring in such manner for team rankings, I wish the drivers were continued by the 9-6-4-3-2-1 metric, Both for accuracy of historical comparison, but also as a more potent recognition of merit.

    Is 8th place treble the importance of 10th?? I would argue not only otherwise, but such recognition smacks of participation reward.

    1. expatpom says:

      Hi, You can’t compare scoring systems between era’s than you can cars. Each generation is different and even now, all you compare between this season and last year is the lap times around a certain track which only show the difference between two very different cars.

      The only thing regarding points that should be changed is the ridiculous double points for the last race. IMHO :)

      1. Random 79 says:

        Small correction: In everyone’s honest opinion ;)

    2. Doohan says:

      Good point you bring up.
      Is there a list somewhere where they’ve taken all the results up until modern times and converted the points?
      Goferret? Perhaps you have something?

    3. Andrew M says:

      I agree most points statistics these days are meaningless, unless you convert everyone to a level playing field. Alonso becoming the “highest points scorer in history” last year was an example of this, even the man himself bought into it!

      (On that note, when Kimi broke the most consecutive points finishes record last year, apparently someone checked that no-one had in history racked up as many top 10 finishes as him, so that record is pretty legit even by todays standards if it’s true.)

  6. John in sd says:

    Re. Magnussen, although a promising talent, it’s a shame that Perez was not given a second year. Having made the choice of Perez for 2013, I think they should have stuck with him. May be Magnussen will turn out to be better in the future, I’m not sure he’s any better than Perez at the moment.

    1. Random 79 says:

      I wouldn’t say that Perez is the best driver in F1, but he’s certainly not the worst and I agree he should have been given a second year at McLaren.

      His basic problem was that he ended up at McLaren at exactly the wrong time where he was unable to show any of the talent that got him there in the first place. So now he’s at FI, and while they’re probably actually a step up performance-wise it’s perceived as a step down, and in F1 once you start sliding backwards it’s hard to stop…

  7. Random 79 says:

    Nice article.

    It seems to me that we’ve always had and always will have a mix of experienced drivers, rookies and pay drivers, but it’s good to see some real talent coming through.

  8. Kenneth Iversen says:

    Last weekend there was a Historic Racecar Grand Prix in Copenhagen (great event). Walking around the pit area, I suddenly found myself standing next to Kevin Magnussen and his dad Jan. Actually I was by mistake on restricted area….ups…but they’r very nice people, and I had a short chat with Kevin. Even being on hollyday, he seemed to a extremely focused young racer…..with a good sense of humor for my stupid mistake. I’m certain he’ll be driving for McLaren next year. Don’t forget he is Ron Dennis’ pick.

    1. Bart says:

      Yeah, Kevin looks good, probably needs some more experience to get consistency

  9. Simmo says:

    I remember two years ago you put out this brilliant brilliant article about F1 storing up a big problem for itself in five years time:

    http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/09/formula-1-storing-up-a-big-problem-for-itself-in-five-years-time/

    I’m very glad that it looks as if it isn’t such an issue at the moment, as F1 does seem to have responded to that this year, but it is still a shame that we lost out on keeping the Alguersuari, Glock, Petrov, di Resta group, and Hulkenberg is still lucky to be here in my opinion (but thoroughly deserving of course).

    It is a real shame though, that we do still have the likes of Maldonado, Chilton, and Sutil even, driving around when even more young or even slightly older drivers could be there doing a better job but with a lighter wallet.

    As for Magnussen, I see no reason to criticise him. As you rightly said, he is still only half way through his first year, shown tremendous speed at times, and has not been too far off Button. There have been rookie errors, but he is, after all, a rookie.

    1. James Allen says:

      Yes, this article is a follow up to that one and the signs are encouraging..

  10. glennb says:

    Good article James. I’ve always been a fan of young people in sport (I was previously a selector for junior soccer players with potential) and love to see them do well. Its reassuring that F1 finds itself in good hands at this time in regards to drivers. One can only hope that the rule makers dont take the sport away from them.
    As someone said (above), I hope Hulk gets a top team seat real soon. I see a whole lot of potential in this young guy and would love to see him mixing it with the big guns on a more equal footing. I think it safe to say that Jules would be in the same category too. They need the opportunity but they need it real soon. The big seats dont crop up too often do they.

    1. aveli says:

      all persons have personality. what is soccer by the way?

      1. Dr T says:

        Hey Aveli,

        Soccer is a rare sport – you can play a full game and still end up with a no score draw. There are very few sports that are like that. They are also excellent at bribery [mod], which explains how the world cup can end up in Qatar.

        I hope that helps answer your question

        Best wishes
        Dr T

      2. aveli says:

        is that a board game?

      3. Random 79 says:

        Dr T,

        You also forgot to mention that acting skills are an important part of the game, as well as the ability to roll around on the ground while holding a knee :)

  11. TJ says:

    “he has also performed well against more experienced team-mate Jean-Eric Vergne (who outraced Ricciardo many times last season)”

    I realise this article is about the current rookies, but the second part of the above statement is way off the mark for me. In races that ricciardo and vergne both finished last year ricciardo was 6-3 with 2 of vergne’s higher places only being 1 spot ahead. – Hardly outracing ricciardo MANY times. Ricciardo had 6 top 10 finishes, vergne had 3. Qualifying was 15-4 in favour of ricciardo with 9 top 10 starts to 4.

    The only race in which vergne had any dominance over ricciardo last year was canada.

    Vergne was and is average at best.

    1. aveli says:

      why not judge them by how they are performing now rather than last year?

    2. kenneth chapman says:

      @ TJ….thank you for putting the record straight. riccoiardo is head and shoulders above JEV and that has been proved. reading a report as to why RB chose ricciardo for the vacant webber seat it was said that RD’s race pace was super fast and consistent and that he had the ability to read a race. this has also been confirmed by his racing this year.

  12. aveli says:

    vergne would be doing the same as or better than ricciardo in that red bull. I have noticed him unusually high up in a some stages of qualifying and races especially when he held up rosberg for so long in the last race. he deserves a special mention.

    1. harv says:

      Find it hard to understand how he would be doing at least as well as Ricciardo, when he lost out in quali to him something like 30-8 over two years. The only reason he even competed with DR in the race was because he could afford to be more aggressive since he had nothing to lose, as he’d almost always be starting behind his team mate. DR was a little more cautious (actually probably too cautious sometimes) because he had decent starting positions, which meant in the end they weren’t too far apart in the race. But for pure pace he was no match for DR, as the quali record shows.

    2. Ricciardo dominated Vergne head and shoulders as soon as the Webber’s RBR seat became available.

      DR has been a standout performer this year with two wins under his belt, finishing ahead of his illustrious team mate more often than not.

      I’m afraid that if Vergne doesn’t perform at the level he managed in Canada last year, he’ll be gone by season’s end.

      1. aveli says:

        i would love to see vergne in the redbull.

      2. Random 79 says:

        So would Vergne :)

  13. Bart says:

    Some say Alonso is on his way to McL-Honda. If that’s the case, we will see how Magnussen performs alongside the Spaniard. That would be really interesting.

    However, as a (bit frustrated) Ferrari fan, I’d love to see Binachi and Alonso in F from 2015 on. Nothing against Kimi (was jumping for joy when he won it in 2007) but, with a hindsight, I now think they should’ve gone for Jules last year. Look at Ricciardo in RB.

    Really really impressed by Bottas, he drives like a guy with years of experience. Kvyat is more erratic, as is Magnussen, but it’s clear the speed is there. Consistency will come.

    Cheers, Bart

    1. Krischar says:

      @ bart

      “Alonso is on his way to McL-Honda” – Is this True? Any real substance is available on this story or it is just a grapevine?

      1. Richard says:

        Rumours. Nothing more than that.

      2. Bart says:

        By the look of things plenty of substance. For ex. a very reliable source in Italy has been talking about it for some time

  14. Pkara says:

    The future is bright regarding the new breed of drivers in F1, though some are miles better than others.

    Bottas has shown he’s the best of the young drivers. Though I think he should be judged ewith the rest of the drivers as he has surpassed the young zone. He has matured into a talented driver. Think he will mobe on from Williams into McLaren with Kmag.

    Kmag needs a good car to show his skills. He’s now trying too hard & making mistakes. Though very talented the pressure is on him to shine in second half of season. Or he may end up as 3rd dtiver testing on first practice days alongside their inhouse test driver Paffett at McLaren

    Kyvat still has alot of racecraft to learn though he is talented. I reckon he is better than Petrov in his rookie year.

    Jules still has alot to prove…had a great test with Kimi’s car & the push overtake around Monaco an excellent quali run. If he gets a better drive next year I just hope he doesn’t do a Maldando & tags every car in overtaking.

    One must worry about the quality of young drivers who bring in huge amounts of sponsorship. They may not have the race craft to compete at the level required on the track.
    Sauber seems to attach themselves at the nearest investor with shedloads of Roubles I still can’t believe they’d put Sirotkin in an F1 car . The driver is pretty mediocre in the junior classes.

    Racecraft & consistency equals good points for themselves & constructors. Teams cannot have Iinept drivers involved in F1 or we might as well change the name to” F”indycar instead of F1.

  15. Pkara says:

    Linept= inept
    Mobe = move
    ewith= with

    Predictive text going haywire :-)

    1. Random 79 says:

      Situation normal then Pkara ;)

  16. Dai Dactic says:

    ‘. . . Formula 1 will be in good hands . . .’
    . . . ! . ? . ! . ? . ! . . .
    Will they be adopting a management role too?

  17. Krischar says:

    Bottas, Mgnussen, Bianchi and Kvyat have surely impressed the Formula 1 paddock and fans this season thus far, albeit in different cars and the scuff for different positions in the grid

    Bottas have a excellent chance to impress and take another huge step forward this season, as the williams team improved vastly and have the pace to score podiums, even pole and odd victories. Bottas did not disappoint either thus far this season, however the real challenge will stem from the second bout of the season. Hope bottas will maintain the consistency levels.

    Magnussen have faded away since australia, he looked quicker than button certainly this season in patches. However the errors and collisions will not do any good for his reputation. Magnussen needs to improve a lot and his race-craft is still not there despite the pace which he possess.

    Bianchi has been the standout pilot of this group, he had to drive the shoddy marussia and his performances in a poor car does prove the credentials of the young pilot. Jules easily looks much faster than chilton and the odd first points for Marussia is indeed credible result. Here’s one hope to see Bianchi is a quick car sooner rather than later.

    Kvyat have displayed the pace and his ability to put in few quick laps at certain bouts of the race this season have not gone unnoticed. Despite the impressive pace which kvyat possess he needs to perfect his race-craft and avert the odd little errors which he committed. However kvyat have the pace.

    All the 4 pilots have had superb season thus far, yet the standout performer is Bianchi

  18. Stephen Taylor says:

    I don’t think any of these guys have produced any particularly outstanding performances this season . For Kyvat the occasional 6 finish might be a great performances anything 7-10th should be expected from time to time .
    Guys like Raikkonen and Button got Top 4 finishes in inferior cars. Alonso also enjoyed quite a few races in his rookie season where he was able to to race with Benetton’s and Prosts both cars which were still faster .I don’t see Bianchi doing that and his points at Monaco were down to the mistakes of others. As for Bottas he’s doing well but only as well as you’d expect given that he’s got Mercedes power unit in . If he’s that good then couldn’t he a least get a few more 9/10th places which would have been a great achieved given how awful the 2013 Williams was . Bottas will be 25 on 28th August and therefore I would not consider him a young driver.
    Kimi had already had a couple of poles/ race wins by 25 in cars that were far from magnificent and been Championship runner up at 23 years old .
    Alonso became WDC at 25.
    Fernando won his first race at 21/22.
    Magnussen for me has shown no signs of promise since his Australia podium . He has been like Kyvat in the way that he been quite fast but erratic like Magnussen’s predecessor Perez was last year . Look where that got Perez-out Mclaren’s door.
    You highlight James the fact that Magnussen needs to learn from his mistakes. Unfortunately from the interviews I’ve it seems his arrogance gets the better of him and fails to accept his deficiencies as a driver.
    .Kyvat on the other hand seems willing to learn and I think STR will keep him and help him mature as driver.
    He’ll be sacked at the end of the season as I think Button will continue to outperform him consistently for the rest of the season.
    Magnussen promising talent, no more like a 1 podium wonder. James what have you seen in Kevin that I have not other than Oz podium?

    I really can’t understand why you put Kevin on the list he just looks like an also ran.
    In fact I am extremely worried that driving standards will decrease as the older guys retire.

    Also if the depth of talent in single seat racing is healthy then how come Lotus decided to sign Kimi Raikkonen in his 30s after 2 seasons away in Rallying?

    Why did Mercedes chose to sign Schumacher even though they knew had not raced since 06 and would be 41 years old by the time the 2010 season started?

    There doesn’t seem be to a great depth of talent to me and Ferrari re-hiring a 34 year old Finn for 2014( albeit a good one) just emphasizes my point even more. I will not be supporting any other drivers after Raikkonen as :
    1. No interests in supporting other WDC’s or race winners.
    2 . New talent is not exciting enough
    3 All the others drivers act lack their own personality and are like PR Machines in my view. Kimi speaks his own mind and is more of a free spirit in many ways.

    Replies welcome.
    thanks
    Stephen Taylor

    1. Joshua Marchant says:

      On the whole I have to disagree with you. The fact Bottas, Magnussen and Riccardo have made it onto the podium this season and shown themselves capable of beating (if not always consistently) their more experienced teammates (Button and Vettel being WDC’s lest we forget) proves how promising they are.
      I think those three as well as Kvyat and Bianchi have all proved they have pace to match the current leading drivers but also have shown that they are entirely capable of delivering when opportunities present themselves. Like James says, these new drivers promise a bright future.

      1. Stephen Taylor says:

        Ricciardo has impressed me . The people that Mr Allen has focused on in his article that have not.

    2. Alex Butters says:

      Don’t you think Hulkenburg would have done a better job than Schumacher or Raikonnen?

      I think the answer to your question is that Mercedes and Ferrari made a mistake signing drivers in their 30s like Schumacher and Raikkonen!

      Drivers like Webber have been preventing too many younger talented drivers from progressing into better cars, I can’t wait to see people like Massa make way too…

      1. Thompson says:

        @Alex Butter

        No…… If he could he’d be delivering consistently and in demand, instead of the team hoping we’ve seen thus pass few seasons.

      2. Alex Butters says:

        I find it odd to question the consistency of Hulkenburg, who really is exceptional but for some reason seems destined never to get a good seat (it would be a shame if it really is because he is too heavy)…

        I’d agree with you if Schumacher had performed consistently but he didn’t – Rosberg comprehensively outperformed him at Mercedes…

        And Raikonnen has not been consistent this year – even Grojean (who I am not a fan off) often outqualified him, and now Alonso just embarrasses him…

        I find it frustrating how negative some people are on this website about everything! I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree lol

      3. Thompson says:

        @Alex

        I have no issue with Hulkenburg but I struggle to see this great talent so many others claim he has.

        I cannot recall a single outstanding performance or 3 in a row worth a mention.

        Everyone has dips. ….accepted, but over ,his career I ‘ve seen nothing.

        But we can agree to disagree.

    3. Random 79 says:

      I think maybe you’re being a little rough on them.

      Not that you’re wrong on any particular point, but for instance saying that Bianchi only got points at Monaco because of the mistakes of others – absolutely true, but to be fair he’s driving a Marussia and that’s the only way it was going to happen. Even with *insert your fastest F1 driver here* in the car it’s not going to be in the top ten on merit, so I think Bianchi should be given credit for making the most of the opportunity which is what I think good drivers do.

      As for Bottas let’s not forget that he finished second in Germany. Considering how much faster the Mercs are this year I call that something like a de facto victory.

      You ask why Mercedes and Ferrari put Schumacher and Raikkonen in the cars instead of a younger driver, so I’ll give you two reasons (and not necessarily in this order):

      First – PR – How big a deal was it when it was announced that Schumi would be coming out of retirement and driving a full season again?

      Second – There might have been a question mark over how they’d perform after time away, but they’re still a known quantity. It’s easy to say that in hindsight maybe Ferrari should have put Bianchi in the car instead of Raikkonen, but if it turned out that he had similar results to what Raikkonen has managed so far this year then they would have been crucified for it.

      I think around every five years or so we really notice new crop of drivers coming through. Some will impress, some will disappoint, and the rest will just simply fade away. I think it’s still a little early to say where these guys fit in, so let’s see how they’re doing at the end of the season.

      1. aveli says:

        Damien hill did wonders in that arrows car he drove don’t forget.

      2. Random 79 says:

        That might be true aveli, but it still wasn’t a Marussia.

    4. Thompson says:

      Lol……I agree with everything you”ve said Steven Taylor

      You said it better than I could…….

  19. Thompson says:

    I have to confess I’m not impressed with any of the rookies this year – none punching above their weight.

    An example of punching above your weight – Hamilton in the 2013 Merc, Malaysi, being under fuelled because he is running faster than the car is expected to go or getting pole consecutive race weekends.

    Bottas is in a capable car but imo is not lighting up the place. – I can appreciate Williams position and understand their conservative approach…..but if he can qualify 0.6secs behind the Mercs I’d expect him to run at 0.6secs behind them not be a moving chicane after trundling around the whole race

    Magnusson drives scared and shows no flare or raw speed.

    Bianchi has got the outstanding result of the season so far but is not in a car capable of mixing it with the midfield so I’ll wait ref him.

    Non of the others stand out.

    1. aveli says:

      it’s unfair to compare these budding stars with hamilton as there has never been a rookie like hamilton in the history of the sport. bottas is outdoing massa, a seasoned pro and ricciardo is doing well against a limping quadruple world champ who seems to be getting rid of that limp. magnussen is also up against a seasoned, smooth talking, world champion who knows how to get people working for him.

      1. Thompson says:

        Thing is the team mate thing is unimportant – if these guys are good it should be seen. I’m trying not to be unfair…….but!

        Kimi was another – in his Mclaren days he shone, only the unreliability of the car/team robbed him of titles.
        His lotus days were also pretty impressive – he should never have gone back to the drivers grave yard.

        Even Alonso impressed in his early years, if not for his political ubderhandidness I could have been a fan. His career is also turning to dust in the drivers grave yard.

        Hamilton was exceptional though and really is the benchmark for the modern rookie.

        As I’ve said none of today’s rookies appear to be able to set up a car to deliver and are dragging that bench mark down.

        Example Damon Hills time at Arrows and Jordan – yes he was a seasoned pro but his work as the test driver for Williams was undermined by the teams insistence it was just the car.

        He never came close to another WDC but he brought those teams forward none of today’s drivers bar a couple seem capable of doing that in their
        respective teams.

  20. Stephen Taylor says:

    What’s going on with GP2 , it doesn’t seem to making any contribution into bringing good talent into f1 anymore. The most recent drivers who have come straight into F1 from GP2 include Chilton, Gutierrez, and Ericcson and they are hardly f1 standard in my view. Thoughts Anyone?
    Replies welcome
    Stephen Taylor

    1. Stephen Taylor says:

      oops ericsson.

      1. Random 79 says:

        At least you remembered his name :)

        It seems to me that it’s not so much that GP2 isn’t making any contribution into bringing good talent into F1 (I’m sure there’s plenty in there) it’s more that the good talent can’t seem make the contribution that’s almost necessary to land a seat in F1.

        All those drivers you mentioned have three things in common: $ $ $

  21. deancassady says:

    If you look objectively at Ricciardo, I have NOT always been a fan, he comes onto a championship team, depressed by a massive power deficit, yet wins two races out of eleven, rarely fails to capitalize on random chance that falls in his favour, and beats the reigning FOUR-TIMES-IN-A-ROW WORLD CHAMPION!

    Now that is comparable to Lewy’s and Jacques’ stunning entrance into F1.

    It’s the passing that I like to see in a top-notch driver; especially in machinery which is not the best.

    There’s no taking anything away from Bottas, he’s coming good as I thought he would; he looks like he has what is required to go all the way; I hope to see him on the top step before the season is out, and think he has a chance.

    But after that, there’s no other demonstrated championship material.

    I like Bianchi; he looks good; but… uh… he’s wasting at Marussia; it must be somewhat demoralizing to be on the same team as the poor little rich boy pay-driver, mostly at the back of the grid.
    I’d like to see him at Ferrari teamed with Kimi in 2015.
    Speaking of number 7, I’m hoping he can work miracles and demonstrate who the master of Spa is.

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