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Hamilton on top in title race after holding off Rosberg for Mercedes One-Two in Spain
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Lewis Hamilton has taken the Formula One World Championship lead after his fourth consecutive Grand Prix victory to head home Nico Rosberg in a close Mercedes one-two, with Daniel Ricciardo taking what he hopes will be a first F1 podium he can keep at the Spanish Grand Prix.

It is the 26th victory of Hamilton’s career and his first at the Spanish Grand Prix.

It was the fourth Mercedes 1-2 in a row this season, an almost unprecedent run of domination in modern F1. Even in the Schumacher/Barrichello Ferrari years such consistency was rare. Ferrari did five 1-2s in a row at the end of 2002, but there are few other similar examples.

Barcelona showed that Mercedes has increased its lead over its rivals and now the prospect is very real that the battle between Hamilton and Rosberg will be the championship story, with prospects receding for any other drivers to get in on the act.

Hamilton made a good start – and Rosberg another poor one – to take a racing line in to the first corner, quickly establishing a comfortable two-second lead over his team-mate in the opening laps as the Silver Arrows stretched away from their pursuers.

As has been the case this season the Brackley team opted to give Rosberg a different strategy, with the German taking a set of the slower hard tyre at his first stop whilst Hamilton remained with the faster option. It was then up to Rosberg to minimise the time lost in the middle stint and keep in touch with the race leader before Hamilton made the mandatory switch to the hard tyre for the final phase of the race.

At this stage Hamilton pitted two laps earlier, setting quick sectors and forcing Rosberg in to pits as the German did not want the gap to increase.

Rosberg made his final stop for a new set of mediums and emerged back on to the circuit four seconds behind his team-mate and set about ending Hamilton’s running streak with twenty laps remaining. Reducing the gap by one and a half seconds in two laps, Rosberg was in the hunt for his second victory of the season but had to be mindful of the twelve laps still to run.

With Rosberg scratching away at the lead he found himself within 0.5s as the lap board ticked to ‘two to go’. The German, though, was unable to find a way past his Championship rival and finished second to complete the fourth Mercedes one-two in succession.

Hamilton now takes the Championship lead by three points, whilst Mercedes hold a 113 point lead over Red Bull.

Behind the Mercedes pair and forty-eight seconds down the road was Ricciardo after a strong drive to his first Formula One podium, since being disqualified from second in Australia. He was jumped on the start line by the more powerful Williams at the hands of Valtteri Bottas and after being held up throughout the first stint of the race his Red Bull team opted to pit him early and under-cut the Finn. The move was a success, with Ricciardo having a twelve-second margin over the Williams following the stops.

It was almost the breakthrough result for Williams, whose race today was not against Ricciardo but instead to beat the Ferrari pair. Bottas was able to keep the Ferrari bay at bay with ease, finishing ten seconds ahead of them at the finish but his mirrors were filled by somewhat of a surprise. After dropping the ball a few times, the Grove squad almost got the kind of result the car’s potential merits.

Sebastian Vettel was a contender for driver of the day, having started fifteenth and spending the first stint sat behind thirteenth placed Jenson Button dived in to the pits the first of anyone, taking the hard tyre and setting himself up for a three-stop race in which he could push every lap, pass cars and emerge in fourth at the flag.

His second and third stops allowed him to make full use of the medium tyre, driving in a care free manner to stick his RB10 on the inside of anyone in his path. When Fernando Alonso, also on a three-stop race, pitted for the final time, Vettel swept around the outside of turn one to take seventh place from the home-favourite.

He then made little work of Kimi Raikkonen before reducing a seven second gap to fourth placed Bottas in four laps.

Vettel launched his move down the inside of Bottas in to the turn ten hairpin, completing the pass and a fantastic turnaround from his starting position.

With Bottas taking a strong fifth place, the next battle came between the Ferrari pair. Raikkonen held the intra-team battle lead over Alonso for the duration of the race, until the Spaniard made use of his fresher tyres and took sixth place with three laps remaining.

Romain Grosjean picked up Lotus’ first points of 2014 after a quiet drive to eighth place. The Frenchman held fifth place in the first phase of the race but was unable to keep the Ferrari pair and Vettel behind.

The points scoring positions were completed by the Force India duo, Sergio Perez and Nico Hulkenberg, who had a race long battle with the Mexican eventually coming out on top.

Spanish Grand Prix, Barcelona, Race, 66 Laps

1. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 66 laps 1hr 41m 05.155s
2. Nico Rosberg Mercedes +00m 00.6s
3. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull +00m 48.9s
4. Sebastian Vettel Red Bul +01m 16.5s
5. Valtteri Bottas Williams +01m 19.0s
6. Fernando Alonso Ferrari +01m 27.4s
7. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari +1 lap
8. Romain Grosjean Lotus +1 lap
9. Sergio Perez Force India +1 lap
10. Nico Hulkenberg Force India +1 lap
11. Jenson Button McLaren +1 lap
12. Kevin Magnussen McLaren +1 lap
13. Felipe Massa Williams +1 lap
14. Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso +1 lap
15. Pastor Maldonado Lotus +1 lap
16. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber +1 lap
17. Adrian Sutil Sauber +1 lap
18. Jules Bianchi Marussia +2 laps
19. Max Chilton Briton +2 laps
20. Marcus Ericsson Caterham +2 laps

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  1. Peter says:

    Rosberg is closer to Hamilton than I would expected and Kimi is getting close to Alonso. (I wonder why Alonso could make his first stop before Kimi?)It is unfortunate that there is no competition for Mercedes and only one challenger for Hamilton.

    1. Michael says:

      Rosberg was closer to Hamilton because he was on the medium rubber and Hamilton was on the hard. It was the same scenario in Bahrain and Lewis still held him off. The medium tire was 8/10′s quicker than the hard tire per lap. It’s no wonder Rosberg closed the gap so quickly. He had more than enough time to pass Lewis and win this race.

      1. AlexD says:

        Not sure. Rosberg on hards was faster than Ham on mediums. Where do you get the 0,8 sec per lap from?

      2. Michael says:

        On f1.com the live timing link. Hamilton was also having problems with his car notably over steering. But, he did say Nico was faster. All things being equal I still think Hamilton is quicker than Rosberg.

      3. Grant H says:

        I think the med was not performing paul hembry was quoted as sating track temps hotter leading to overheating etc, I dint think there was much difference between compounds in the race, I think Lewis was mainly struggling with balance, think he went wrong direction before qually

    2. furniture says:

      When LH has a good weekend he wins by a mile, but even more importantly, when he has a bad weekend relative to his team mate he’s still managing to scrape wins. Must be doing Nico’s head in.

    3. F12014 says:

      Consider than Rosberg gained some time in both of his pitstops, at least a couple seconds. It is well that Hamilton prevailed, otherwise there may have been some speculation as to whether Mercedes was trying to get Rosberg the win with much slower pitstops for Hamilton.

      1. David says:

        Those stops were weird. The mechanics looked like they were in barbecue mode, tinkering with the neighbour’s car while having a beer, not maximizing every split second in the few moments of action they’re required and trained to undertake during a race. More of that and they will indeed be under more intense scrutiny.

      2. Grant says:

        I agree with you on this, not to mention that Lewis had a good setup on Friday which Merc then screwed up for Quali and the Race, whlist perfecting Nico’s.

    4. Gaz Boy says:

      I suspect Red Bull could take the fight to Merc but its upto those cheese eating slightly behind the times Parisian monkeys to provide Dan and Seb with the ammunition to put them on equal terms torque wise…….
      The torque of that Merc engine is incredible, notice how Daniel could close up to Bottas Williams, but the Brixworth V6 powered car just rocketed away on acceleration.
      It will be interesting to compare the respective torque curves of the Merc and Regie engines: I suspect the Merc has a more “meaty” and “fatter” torque curve that doesn’t require the driver to rev its head off, where as by the sound of the onboards, the Renault sounds quite harsh on acceleration and has to be thrashed to within the last cc of its life to extract the maximum acceleration it will permit.
      Whatever, being 80 lb of torque down on the Merc engine is no joke – and that’s a conservative estimation: Gary Anderson and Autosport have mentioned it could be as much as 90 to 100 Lb ft of torque difference.
      That’s a lot of twisting force!

      1. Rockman says:


        How does something so derogatory go past moderation?


        Why is it Renault gets all the blame when Redbull doesn’t win but zero praise during the last 4 years domination?

      2. MrF1 says:

        The past 4 years has seen a more aerodynamic battle. Hence the praise of Adrian Newey and RB.

      3. Darth_patate says:


        As a cheese eating monkey myself i agree with rockman. It is unfortunately true not only from Gaz boy ( he does that kind of “humour” to all sorts of “not like him” categories of people) but also from the redbull team communication. when things go right it’s a reluctant “thank you” to Renault and religious praise to Adrian Newey and “the boys back at the factory”…when things go wrong it’s Renault’s fault lacking power or unreliability.
        aren’t they supposed to be a “win together lose together” energy drinking brotherhood of young and beautiful people ?

      4. Quade says:

        I second this. We shouldn’t be getting racist terms on here for any reasons.

      5. Stephen says:

        +100 Rockman
        Renault has been the most dominant engine for a decade, and one short period of below par performance and they are lepers. Short memories.
        3 engine manufacturers, with major changes – there was always going to be 1 that was better. Merc had significantly more budget & resources to turn around their previous mediocrity – they were bound to hit the pay dirt eventually.

      6. Jean-Christophe says:

        Exactly! When RBR kept winning it was all thanks to RBR brilliant job. Even then Horner kept whining about Renault’s lack of power. No words for that special engine mapping that allowed for the off throttle exhaust blowing, the driveability or fuel efficiency.
        RBR are 1 second clear of any non Mercedes car and if the Brackley team hadn’t done such a great job, we’d be having another year of RB domination

      7. Bring back V12's !!! says:

        Derogatory? He was making a joke mate relax. Are you one of those people that was also offended by Jeremy Clarkson’s remarks of late? Lighten up aye this life is too short for political correctness.

        As for the race, pretty boring and processional really. There were a few moments where I thought Nico might catch Hamilton but in a car like that and with Hamilton’s insane skill I don’t think anyone is in any doubt as to where this WDC (and even the WCC) is heading.

      8. Gary says:

        On the derision sensitivity meter Gaz’ post would seem to rate fairly low.
        At the tail end of the V8 era it was conventional wisdom that performance differences amongst the three engines were negligible.

      9. Gaz Boy says:

        RE Rockman:
        Eh?????????????????????????? Derogatory?????????????
        It’s a well known accepted fact that the Renault V6 is down on torque, power and drive-ability compared to the Merc. How is it derogatory that pointing out the Renault engine isn’t as advanced and developed as its Mercedes rival?????????

      10. Ticketyboo says:

        I think we need to lighten up just a bit – the whole world has gone PC mad, if anyone out there is English, Welsh, Scots, or Irish then we’ve all been the butt of decades of ribbing in jokes – get over it. Renault have been largely recognised as ‘the’ motor package since Ferrari domination came to an end but the aero brilliance of the team under AN has been what made the difference and separated Red Bull from the other Renault powered teams. Similarly at this moment in time it isn’t all just Mercedes power (although it’s a massive chunk of it) as the gap to the other Mercedes powered teams are proving – it’s the complete package and right now the Petronas boys have the best power pack coupled with a great chassis and ok aero… Red Bull have clearly the best chassis out there (as Merc boys have admitted) but the Parisians have dropped the ball on the power pack technology front and it’s costing (thankfully) Red Bull a lot….for now…. Renault are blame worthy at this point in time, simple as – @ Gaz Boy is spot on, not that he needs me to say it for him.

      11. Nick says:

        Because it was never about pure power the last 4 years, it was about the chassis and the aero and perfection of the blown diffuser, plus torque maps and the like.

        Red Bull was always slower in the traps, their top speed was always lower than Merc and Ferrari. It was the chassis and the aero that kept the Red Bull stuck to the ground and pure magic through the corners that gave them the edge.

        Thats why Renault never really got much praise.

      12. Jock Ulah says:

        Because this is an England-based blog and the recipients are French . . .
        History has a long arm . . . and . . .
        Fanboys tend to use derogatory or florid language.

      13. Mhilgtx says:

        Gaz gets a little excited at times.

        The reason Newey gets more credit than Renault is because for at least the last few years they have been down on power. This year they are really down and even RBR can’t completely overcome that.

      14. PB says:

        Agreed with Rockman that the first paragraph of this post is inappropriate. Surprised to see it went past moderation.

        Gaz Boy,
        Re your astonishment at the Merc engine’s torque assisting Bottas in accelerating away from Daniel. Two cars with the same horsepower and different torques (say with a 100lb-ft of torque differnece) will accelerate at the same rate if other factors such as weight, gearing, etc. are held constant. In other words, it is horsepower, not torque, that dictates acceleration at any given RPM. It’ll of course be easier to accelerate at the same rate with an engine that has more torque but it won’t be possible to pull away from the other car on the basis of extra torque – you need more horsepower.

      15. grat says:

        I noticed during qualifying, Rosberg hit 316 km/h on the front straight, and didn’t bother with 8th gear.

      16. Fastfastfast says:

        Gaz, I like your knowledge as a poster but you just lost my respect after that disparaging remark about the French. Is there really a need to use this language to make an intellegent point in a racing forum? In a racing forum.

        This is how they talk at Crash.net. Ask Equin0x.

        Please not at jaonf1.

      17. James Allen says:

        Agreed. It slipped through the net on a busy day.

        Please don’t use insulting language again on this site -Mod

      18. aveli says:

        can it not be removed?

      19. I know says:

        It’s undeniable that Mercedes have a clear edge. However, I don’t think the Renault Power unit is worse than Ferrari’s at this stage: Both RB, and now Lotus, are at least on par with Ferrari, while Sauber is really struggling. Hard to tell as no two engines are in the same chassis, of course, but Renault seems to have made a quite a bit of progress since the end of pre-season testing.

        I don’t think anyone not named Hamilton or Rosberg has a chance at being champion this season, but I’m pretty sure if there is a non-Mercedes win, it will come from a Renault-powered car.

      20. Jonathan Clare says:

        I agree with the derogatory post. It is not PC gone mad to criticise people using the term ‘monkey’. It is completely wrong to use that term. It adds nothing. Just takes away from credibility. I live in Australia, and whenever the term is used it is justifiably condemned, and rightly so. Just to make it clear. We are all humans and as such do not need to be categorised in anyway; whether based on race or any other stupid group.

        Let’s all just have our opinions without being demeaning to anyone, for whatever reason.

      21. SilverArrow says:

        +1 Jonathan, that comment was totally uncalled for.

      22. PhilipB says:

        Having had my own nationality at the sharp end of Gaz’s wit I can attest to him being an equal opportunity insulter.

        However, the lad knows his GP racing.

    5. Richard says:

      I think the race results will be starting to demoralise Rosberg because even though Hamilton car set up and balance was some way off he still managed to retain the lead and finally win. It also demonstates how good Hamilton is by putting the slower car on pole. Had Hamilton’s car been set up like Rosbergs then the gap would have been ever increasing with quite a different complexion to the result.

      1. AlexD says:

        but who is setting up the car? You make it sound as if Hamilton is being held from making any set up change that he wants. It is up to Ham for how he will set up his car

      2. Richard says:

        There are two sides to the garage obviously. Hamilton’s engineers using Hamilton’s feedback and all the other data they have from running the car, provide the set up instructions to the mechanics who alter the car. The car was fine on Friday and they mucked it up jointly on Saturday by additional tweaks. It certainly is not a straight forward process as simply Hamilton telling them what he wants, and of course he then has to live with the consequences on track.

      3. ONS says:

        In fact if you recall, Rosberg copied hamilton’s set up since saturday’s FP3, but in the mean time some minor (software)upgrades were made on lewis’ car. (which did not suit him very much) The team truely beleiving that it would improuve the cars performences. It probably did, but did not suit lewis’ handling of the car (thus diff and understeer issues @ the end of the race).had they not tampered with his set up, Nico would not have been able to close the gap so easily. Keep in mind that he did get alot of help in doing so:
        - two slow pit stops for Lewis
        - backmarkers slowing his pace (lewis)
        - an unbalanced car

      4. Richard says:

        Yes well aware of the pitstop sluggishness, and other aspects, although Rosberg also had the back markers to contend with, but I don’t buy the team improved the car as understeer and torque snatch is there regardless of style. What did change was track condition!? The team always change things in the hope of improvement, but that is not always the case as Hamilton is well aware. I was not aware it was simply a software change but that would explain the torque snatch, but not the understeer which is a suspension set up condition. It strikes me that his engineers need to get a bit smarter rather than ultimately rely on Lewis saving the day.

      5. SaScha says:

        We have Toto Wolffs quote there:I think what we did was engineer the car away from the way he wanted the car to behave on Saturday.
        Read more at http://en.espnf1.com/spain/motorsport/story/157969.html#iWrL12hCBKgBBklr.99
        Sounds too me it was not really Lewis own decission, therefore he sounded quite annoyed at Saturday & Sunday
        The slow pit stops did also not help much, and the wing adjustment from 3 wholes made it waorse, too ( Hamilton wanted only 2)So when they suggested three [holes], I thought don’t take three holes of front wing out of the car because I will have excessive understeer.

        “And in hindsight they were not right because I had so much excessive understeer at the end through [tyre] graining.

        “If they had taken another hole out I would have been really stuffed.”

        Looks like Mercedes did not the best job for Lewis the whole weekend

      6. Mhilgtx says:

        Thanks for that info on the software. Power unit software really is the “dark art” for this year at least.

    6. aveli says:

      those incidents only happened in the spanish grand prix and different incidents happen in different races.

    7. Blackmamba says:

      It is more worrying that on Rosberg’s better tracks he is being beaten by Lewis. Nico got pole here last year and finished 6 positions ahead of Lewis so I expected him to win this race as well as China, but alas, he failed plain and simple. I give hike one more chance in Monaco to take the win and if he fails then its curtains. He got pole and the win last year so I expect him to run away with it coz Hamilton is just emense in Canada, Britain, Germany, Hungary, Belgium, Italy and then throw in the mix of new circuits like Austria and Russia. In fact the only track I feel Rosberg has a chance after Monaco is Brazil. Tough road ahead for him either way!

      1. Mike Martin says:

        +1 You summed it up perfectly there.
        Even Lewis had some bad luck in Singapore he is also mighty there.

      2. Aaron says:

        And yet were Hamilton’s car to break down in Abu Dhabi, Rosberg could finish second to Hamilton 7 times and still be in front. With nobody even remotely close to challenging the two Mrecs, I fear this championship could be decided by a breakdown.

      3. Hal says:

        That is my concern especially the ridiculous double points system for the last race. It is farcical. Anyone who wins because of the double points system can not really be regarded as the champion. Imagine Hamilton (or Rosberg) is 49 points ahead and with many more wins and then through no fault of his own has a DNF and his rival goes on to win it. I would find that hard to accept the WDC deserved it.

      4. Dr Lewis says:

        A very valid point – any DNF in the final race would completely screw a record number of wins to seconds the likes of which not seen before (assuming of course such occurs) and would make a total and complete mockery of the championship the likes of which has only happened in motogp in recent years. And even there, it was nothing like as bad as the possible situation in F1.

        I have a feeling the declining TV figures would go into overdrive and we have to just hope that like the reliability issues, it never happens.

        How crazy is that!

      5. ONS says:

        Oooh! Spot on Blackmamba. We are quickly approching Lewis’ favorite tracks. Tracks that he has won several times and that he truely loves. It will be very difficult for Nico after Monaco. I can’t wait for Canada!

    8. MISTER says:

      Well..if Kimi is ahead of Alonso, and Kimi doesn’t want to stop until lap 16, Alonso has every right to request a pit on lap 15.

    9. Richard says:

      Didn’t Kimi two stop and Alonso do a three stop? That is why he came in earlier.

      1. Harshad says:

        He is talking about First pit stops when Alonso, tried to undercut Kimi.
        Both of them pitted within one lap of each other….do you really think pitting within one lap of each other makes difference between two stops and three stops?

      2. Peter says:

        By one or two laps, I am not sure that make sense?

    10. Gazza says:

      This track as never been a favourite of Hamiltons.
      Drivers go better at some tracks than others.
      When then are to Nicos liking like Bahrain and Barcelona Lewis is pipiping him, when they are to Lewis,s liking he is driving off into the distance, that’s the difference between them.

    11. Yago says:

      First stop before Kimi was to cover Massa, who had pitted a lap before. That was not the optimum thing to do because traffic, but he had to do it to stay ahead of Massa. I don’t know why was it so close with Raikkonen, maybe he did tot a very good lap or the team did not a good pit stop. Certainly it shouldn’t have been so close, given the time alonso lost in the last sector of the lap.

      1. Elie says:

        Its called the undercut for a reason.. The driver left out is loosing time on old tyres.Driver going in first gains track position because he gains time on fresh rubber.. Both drivers loose time pitting and exiting. The only diff is the 1 lap advantage he guy on fresher tyres gains- you understand or do just talk for talkings sake..

      2. NickH says:

        I know it’s really simple right, the couple of Alonso fans on here don’t seem to understand it.

      3. Yago says:

        Don’t treat me like an idiot just because you are disapointed for whatever reason (well actually we all know the reason). The undercut doesn’t work if there is traffic in your out lap, it is plain simple. By your comments I’m sure I could teach you one or two things about analyzing race strategy and lap times. Hey, I don’t even know why am I replying, next time I will not bother to replay to such a silly post.

      4. Elie says:

        Yep seen it. Shows what most of the world already know- & some poor unfortunates here dont!

    12. Nico’s body language was very unhealthy today, he seemed to be putting himself under too much pressure, is the rivalry between these two guys going wrong, this is all unhealthy for Mercedes. I suppose we have to remember these guys are still young. f1worldtour.com


  2. Harshad says:

    So Alonso beats Kimi pulling out all the tools in the bag with the help of Ferrari…
    1) preferential treatment during the first pit stops…
    2) Better strategy…

    And all of this to finish 6th…
    Ferrari just screwed Kimi today…

    1. James Allen says:

      We will analyse the Ferrari strategy battle in the UBS Race Strategy Report on Tuesday

      1. HP says:

        Yes, can’t wait for the report James.

      2. Mocho_Pikuain says:

        Its going to be one of the most interesting, in my opinion.

      3. Vin S says:

        Please do, and without any bias towards either driver. The first & only question is why Alonso got preferred 1st stop even though he was behind Kimi and doing no better. After Pitstop, Kimi easily had his number with 2 Seconds gap.

        But then, Ferrari sold out to Santander haha.

      4. mix says:

        analyse?! is that all you have to say James?! part of being a journalist is that you are UNbiased!

        This interview says it all!


      5. toleman fan says:

        This is Kimi we’re talking about. He’s always speechless. If it’s not ‘I don’t know’, it’s ‘We’ll have to wait and see’.

        All the team got out of him after he won the first race of the 2013 season, putting him (briefly) in the lead in the championship was, ‘I told you, the car is good.’

        What did you expect?

      6. Ealdfrith says:

        It just says that the iceman is melting into worse-than-Massa right before our eyes.

        How come he just let Vettel pass him when he was a direct rival? Because he was trying to save time to fight his teammate.

        If the three stopper was a better strategy, please explain why others didn’t use it.

      7. jayteeniftb says:

        There is not much analysis needed even for a sofa expert like me.
        Ferrari screwed Kimi today by concentrating more on Alonso thereby indicating their bias.
        Alonso beating Kimi is the superficial issue and not the actual talking point. We want a fair fight. That did not happen.
        Alonso was given his best chance. Kimi was left hanging out to dry without committing to a two stop (in which case he should have stayed out 3-4 laps longer on each stint) or committing to a three stop (in which case he should have pitted first being the lead driver).
        I hope Kimi at least calls Ferrari strategy guys out on this nonsense.

      8. Thompson says:

        Can’t help feel Ferrari cost themselves 4th today with the strategies used for Kimi.

      9. mix says:

        +10 Ferrari have shown their true colours! They want kimi as no.2 to alonso. This is SICKENING!

      10. Mhilgtx says:

        I think the new guy will. You can already see the effect he has had on making sure Kimi’s car was closer to equal.

      11. Luis Pastilla says:

        @ Mix

        Dont fret, they will not succeed. I can see Kimi is overcoming car issues. Alonso will be lucky to be this close again.

        I hope it was consoling for him in front of his home fans after being second to Kimi all weekend. But he had to throw everything at it!!!

      12. azac21 says:

        Dont beat yourself over it!
        Alonso not only beat Kimi again today but was clearly faster than him throughout the whole race (as always).

        But there is no point trying to argue who gets 6th or 7th place. It’s sad. Ferrari is barely the 4th fastest car out there.

      13. Rudy says:

        I thought Kimi was stoping before Alonso. Normal procedure when team mates positions are so close. To my disbilief ALO went in first! One, two laps… Oh my God,I thought, there’s the call. And that was it. One have to consider ALO was probably racing VET. Kimi was racing Alonso, therefore I still don’t understand what was thinking the strategist at Ferrari. For sure ALO saved some fresh rubber since Saturday and a 3 stopper was obvious. But Ferrari must have read better what Vettel was trying. They decided to stop Kimi just twice, and from that moment they just thought about covering Grosjean, that is position range 6th to 8th or 9th. Ferrari isn’t just bad at designing good cars and power units, but also crappy at using strategy to overcome the very low potential of the F14 T. Bad day for the Tiffosi, but even worse for Kimi fans.

    2. Phil Glass says:

      ALO might use all the tools in the bag, strategy tricks, favouritism, but it seems he also qualified with an illegal car according to Ted Kravitz.

      Well, he can’t do that again. Game’s up for him, and Kimi’s not up to speed yet!!

      1. Alec Tronnick says:

        ??? Please Explain?

      2. RodgerT says:

        There was report that Alonso’s car was using more than the prescribed amount of power from the MGU-K in qualifying. Charlie brought it to their attention and told them not to do it again.

    3. Anil Parmar says:

      Actually Alonso pitted first so he could cover the much faster Massa. It’s worth noting that kimi was much slower than Alonso in the first stint but thankfully he had track position.

      That said, Ferrar were completely asleep at the end. The whole world knew that Vettel was 3 stopping; why didn’t they bring Alonso in 1 or 2 laps earlier?! They would have covered Seb easily. Diabolical.

      Better race from Kimi but his pace in the first stint was poor. Hope he sorts it out in Monaco.

      1. Sri says:

        RedBull is just faster. Even if Alonso had pitted earlier, he would have been overtaken on the track by Vettel.

      2. Harshad says:

        So you are suggesting that Ferrari felt the need to cover Alonso first from Massa and then from Vettel, but they never felt the same need to cover Kimi from Massa and vettel, especially when Kimi was 2-3 seconds ahead of Alonso…

        It only indicates preferential treatment towards Alonso, and that’s exactly what I said.

      3. Anil Parmar says:

        Kimi was ahead of Alonso before the stops, hence the need to pit him second to cover him (Kimi) from Massa. That’s what they did and it worked; they kept BOTH ferrari drivers ahead of Massa at the end of the first stint. If Kimi had come in first, massa would have easily leapfrogged Alonso (when Alonso came in early they came out very close, so another fast lap for Massa would have made it a done deal.

        No conspiracy theory, sorry. Neither driver is bigger than the team. End of. If Ferrari wanted Alonso ahead they would have told Kimi to move over in the first stint, or the second..

      4. ruthvin says:

        if alonso was faster then he shuld have overtaken kimi. unfortunately like before he could not beg his team to do that for him

      5. Anil Parmar says:

        You shouldn’t watch F1 if you don’t understand why a faster can’t overtake, especially on a track like Spain. It’s not rallying, it’s a race. You can be 4-5 tenths a lap faster than the guy ahead of you and not overtake. In fact unless you’re close to a second (as we saw yesterday when people on FRESH tyres overtook those on OLD tyres).

        There are hundreds of examples of this over the last few years. Another great example is Rosberg vs Lewis yesterday and at Bahrain. You can be ‘faster’ (most drivers will tell you that if you can get to within a second of the guy infront, that’s proof you’re faster) but unless you’re significantly faster/on new tyres, you can’t overtake.

        I’m saying this as a big Kimi fan btw.

      6. Elie says:

        Thats why Kimi was 2+seconds ahead.. in the first stint

      7. Yago says:

        All I can say is… rewatch the race. Kimi WAS NOT 2+ seconds ahead. Alonso was in DRS zone for almost the whole stint, which in Barcelona means been considerably faster. You are just showing you don’t have the level at reading races other people have here.

      8. Anil Parmar says:

        Find the sector times for the race (should be available onlne somewhere). Alonso was within a second for many laps and then backed off to save the tyres. Daniel Ricciardo also did the same thing vs Bottas early on (‘Daniel, drop back to 2 seconds’- Lap 8). Alonso tend maintained the gap. The fact he (and DR vs Bottas) got to within a second of the car in front says it all.

        I’d HIGHLY recommend watching the live timing alongside the race, Elie. They’ve put it behind a paywall this year but it’s absolutely fantastic.

      9. Elie says:

        @Yago/ Anil- Alonso could push all the way knowing he was udercutting then later 3 stopping. Raikkonen did not have that – which is why he was angry he was not given that opportunity. You guys need some common sense to understand what a driver does on 3 stops compared to having to defend a 2 stop. Raikkonen was always faster than Alonso till pit stop time- then FA closed the gap a little but not enough to pass- but dont you think if Kimi was switched to 3 stop – he could attack every lap even harder and increase the gap.
        The whole point of Sunday was the second driver given an opportunity to pass the lead driver without being told of the strategy change before hand. Stop with your pointless “watch the app” – I watch every race with it and have an analytical numbers mind calculating to 000 quicker than you can use a calc.- thats my career !. But numbers wont tell you that a spanish driver sponsored by Santander in 4th place with all of Spain tipping a spaniard ahead was going to get pref over a driver in 12th even when he was ahead.
        It doesnt matter how you analyse now – because you have be able to analyse what Raikkonen OR any driver would have done given the same strategy call..[mod]

    4. furniture says:

      Ted Kravitz on Sky showed an FIA document that says Ferrari were asked to adjust the KERS unit on Fernando’s car after qually to make its power output in line with the rules. Suggests Ferrari had done something iffy to give Fernando, and only Fernando, more horsepower during qually (and presumably the race too, if the FIA hadn’t noticed). The track scrutineers missed it, apparently because they only tested four cars after qually (Hamilton’s and three others).

    5. ruthvin says:

      Ferrari dissapoints me… Learn clean racing… there was no need to change raikkonen to 2 stop strategy cause there was no way he could have got bottas who also was on a similar strategy and way way ahead… truly alonso was not better today…

      1. Anil Parmar says:

        They were both 2 stopping until Ferrari tried to cover Seb’s 3 stopper to protect both drivers. Unfortunately they pitted Alonso a lap too late which cost both him and Kimi points.

      2. ruthvin says:

        ferrari if they really wanted to 2 stop would not have pitted as early as they did… usually teams never commit both drivers to same strategy when they are racing others as well.. the mercedes can do so since they are racing themselves…
        if as per ur great thinking they were both 2 stopping then htey must have pitted even later that when they actually did.. so ur assumption and furiousness that they pitted alonso late by one lap is not justified as they must have pitted even more late on a 2 stop strategy..

      3. Yago says:

        Don’t bother, it’s clear they are not going to understand it. Had Kimi switched to a three stopper Alonso would have beaten him as well, and all these people would be crying Ferrari screwed Kimi strategy even lowder than now…

      4. Gaz Boy says:

        I dislike having to resort to cliches, but watching Kimi and Fernando fighting was the metaphorical two bald men squabbling over a comb.
        Both drivers finished over 66 seconds behind on a 66 lap race. That doesn’t take much working out! I don’t know what the Italian for faeces is but the Maranello brigade are certainly in it at the moment.

      5. Elie says:

        Dont agree-if most in F1 vote Alonso as one of the best drivers in F1 then hes not bald yet is he.. Neither is the guy whose 2 years his “senior” & outpaced him

      6. Gaz Boy says:

        RE Elie: my criticism was more aimed at Ferrari…….yes it is a shame to see Fernando at the peak of his powers driving for an organisation that cannot supply him with a machine worthy of his ability…..Kimi too

    6. Mocho_Pikuain says:

      False, Ferrari used Fernando to cover Seb, even when changing to a 3 stopper was worse in that moment. Alonso showed to be faster than Kimi at every moment, so no surprises he found a way to pass him in the end. With a natural 2 stopper nad kimi not holding him, he could have been even ahead of Vettel in the end.

      1. Mocho_Pikuain says:

        “With a natural 2 stopper had kimi not hold him back…”

      2. PP says:

        which of course, explains why alonso got the better draw at the first round of pitstops, right?

      3. Carlos says:

        It sounds like Alonso requested the change to a 3-stopper. With more stops you obviously make your first stop earlier.

      4. Harshad says:

        So Ferrari first feel the need to cover Alonso for Massa and then they feel the need to cover Alonso for Vettel, but they didn’t feel the need to cover Kimi for either of them.
        If that is not preferential treatment then I don’t know what it is.

      5. Elie says:

        Kimi outqualified him,Kimi was 2+sec ahead at first stop. After Fernando undercut him- Kimi was 3 sec ahead. So how was Fernando faster- in your dreams only!

      6. Yago says:

        Again a mistake. When Fernando did his second stop, he was 1.6 seconds behind Kimi…

      7. Marpabel says:

        to Mocho_Pikuain
        Very fun!
        Alonso was faster all the time and was behind Kimi! LOL

    7. Elie says:

      YYEP!!- utterly disgraceful. He was understandably annoyed but said nothing after the race

    8. MISTER says:

      How do you know it wasnt Kimi’s preference for only 2 stops?

      1. PP says:

        he asked the team on the radio after the race, who was making these calls.

      2. MISTER says:

        waiting until after the race is a bit late, dn’t you think? He should’ve come with suggestions and telling the team he would like a different way.

        Asking questions after he is overtaken by Alonso is not gonna help. If Alonso would’ve ended up 30 sec behind Kimi, would he still be quering the strategy?

        Maybe Alonso was on the same strategy as Kimi, but asked the team to change it and worked for him.

        Either way, Ferrari and Kimi’s engineer need to up their game.

      3. Harshad says:

        Kimi was asking his engineer who is making strategy calls….that makes it very clear.
        In the past Kimi’s 2 strategy have backfired (like China 2012/India 2013) but then Kimi has accepted responsibility for it. But here he was unhappy and asking questions..which clearly suggest that he wasn’t happy to be on 2 stopper.

      4. MISTER says:

        Alonso said after the race that he was asking his engineer when can they pit..like..as soon as possible. Has Kimi done that, or waited for his team to tell him what to do. Maybe he did, and if he asked to change tyres and they didn’t bring him in, that is a very good point that Kimi needs to sort with Ferrari.

        But to me it looks like Alonso telling his engineer he has no grip and would like to pit as soon as possible…therefore putting him on the 3 stopper strategy.

    9. KING Arthur 2 U says:

      Ooooooooh Kimi not happy with the team tactics there but hey what can you do Ferarri can only back one driver really just like RBR

      1. Michael Givens says:

        If that is the case then Mercedes should back only one driver too and we know who that should be.

    10. Blackmamba says:

      People just admit it, Kimi is taking one hell of a beating. This is race 5 now and you can’t keep trying to scrap up excuses for him. Kimi, Fernando is faster than you!

      1. Woofa says:

        Five races isn’t much to get comfortable with a new car & team, now real in-car testing is so limited – Just look at Lewis last year, struggling to get comfotable with different brand of brakes and many other components different in Merc vs Mclaren – not to mention team working methods etc.
        I think we’ll see things closer as the year progresses, but the difference between 98% perfect and 99% perfect only shows up in the rare mistakes of the best drivers.

      2. Elie says:

        He beat Fernando on Sat – he was beating him on sund. The only way Fernando could finish ahead is withe help from the team- hes a looser and so are you

      3. Yago says:

        Hahahahah A long season ahead for you I fear… I’m going to have fun for sure.

      4. H.Guderian (ALO fan) says:

        Well said

      5. NickH says:

        Kimi out qualified and out raced Alonso who was apparently using an illegal car. He needed the team to screw Kimi and give him the best strategy just so he could get 6th. How pathetic

    11. C63 says:

      Did you see the post race interview with Kimi? He mumbled a half answer about whether he should have had first dibs on the pit stop as he was in the lead. He then walked away in mid question from the interviewer.
      Not a happy bunny.

      1. Rishi says:

        Didn’t see this, but have also read on Autosport website that he said something on the radio after the race, and this is what I find intriguing. Raikkonen doesn’t DO public outbursts, so the fact that this was one (sort of) suggests he seriously wasn’t happy, and potentially speaks volumes. Will be interesting to see the analysis; Alonso was probs faster overall but tbf I was impressed with Kimi’s fighting spirit today, and think he had closed the gap.

      2. grat says:

        Next thing you know, he’ll be tweeting telemetry from his car from qualifying.

    12. NickH says:

      Proper screwed. Kimi did well to almost hang on with much older tyres

      1. Yago says:

        Please, analyze the race properly. Kimi had the slight edge over Alonso in quali due to that last sector, as we agreed yesterday. But in the race, Alonso was faster, both with the softs and (specially and by quite a margin) with the hards. Kimi’s strategy was the best one, the two stopper was better. Alonso won the battle because he was considerably faster with the hards. This was expected seeing their times in qualifying with the hards, and also because Alonso is always very fast with the harder compound. Also don’t forget (if you knew it) that Alonso was carrying less wing, as his speed trap speeds in qualifying showed, which was a compromise for qualifying but better for the race.

        Regarding the first stop, Alonso pitted earlier to cover Massa, and that in principle was never going to be a threat to Kimi because traffic. And Kimi was clearly holding off Alonso that first stint. Some other teams would have given preference to the faster driver, as we have already seen (with Red Bull for example), but Ferrari actually didn’t.

        That was a fantastic and fair fight, my advice is enjoy it instead of looking for ghost when it is clear there aren’t any.

      2. NickH says:

        No, Kimi was ahead, he should have got the optimum strategy call. Literally the only team that let’s the driver behind go for the undercut. Why do you think Kimi was so pissed off after the race? It doesn’t take a genius…

        Also it seems Fernando qualified, and then presumably raced with an illegal car according to Ted Kravitz, but nothing will come of it

      3. Hansb says:

        Thanks for this good analysis !
        The pace on the hard compound really made the difference.
        If Alonso hadn’t try to cover Vettel at his 2nd stop and ran a few more laps on the medium before switching to the hard tyre, he would have made it to the finish without his 3rd stop. And the gap to Kimi would even be bigger then.
        People can be very emotional but Alonso was faster today and in my opinion Ferrari did not screw Kimi’s race.

      4. johnpierre says:


        finally someone with a clear head on the matter. I was about to lay it out for all the fans that have an issue with alonso and need to always as someone else pointed out on this subject find an excuse to explain away the spaniards skill set. but you have done it for me. with out any derogatory bias towrad either diver.

        thank you for that.

        this simple fact is as of right now and utill Raikkonen can find a way to driver this new formula race car, he is just not as fast as Alonso. period. in qually the tally is 3-2 but in race conditions Alonso has comprehensively out raced Raikkonen everywhere…

        will this change as Raikkonen finds a way to get comfortable? More than likely, but until then he is not as fast or as consistent and if this irked the fans that thought Raikkonen was going to come in and get the better of Alonso they have been mistaken.

        this to me looks like the subtext in the comments about who pitted first and if the strategy with favoring one diver or the other.

      5. johnpierre says:

        For what it is worth and if the moderators allows it, here are some more thoughts on the subject of Driver vs. Driver or rather the issues that Vettel and Raikkonen are having to deal with in the early part of this season.

        Is It The Driver Or The Car???

      6. Antti says:

        You can’t compare the hard tire stints, since Kimi had to nurture the tires more than Alonso. Alonso was able to push them much harder.

      7. Panya says:

        Glad to read sensible analysis on Alonso & Kimi.

      8. Sri says:

        Yes, Kimi was slower on hards and he lost the battle in that. However, if Kimi suspects he is being not given good treatment, then expect Ferrari to languish at the bottom of the table unlike RBR and Mercedes who treat their drivers better.

      9. Elie says:

        You dont have a clue what your talking about – Kimi was 2 + sec faster in the first stint and more in the second stint.. Kimi was slower only when he was left out.
        & Hansb if Fernando stayed out he would have to do 31 laps on those tyres – what do you think his last 7 laps would have looked like??- he would have been passed by Massa and Raikkonen and his tyres gone!

        Ferrari swapped driver because Kimi is behind on points.. This weekend Kimi was quicker and its only just turned the corner!

      10. NickH says:

        Kimi was pulling away in the 2nd stint so I don’t really know what you’re taking about. Judging from all the comments you are the minority here as most people disagree with you.

        What is your opinion on the story that Alonso’s car was illegal?!

      11. NickH says:

        Of course Kimi was slower on the hards, how obvious! He was going to the end and he didn’t know Ferrari would put the driver behind (Alonso) on the faster strategy. Alonso knew he could take much more life out of them. I thought you claim to be the ‘guru’ of reading races?

      12. Alex says:

        Kimi’s third stint was on used hard Tyres, Alonso had new hard tyres, there you have got the three laps at the end. And that cover excuse for Massa? nonsense, then they should cover Kimi in the first place, I don’t know why you insist in defend the strategy of Ferrari, they obviously favor Alonso no matter if he was faster or slower.

      13. Yago says:

        @ Alex

        How comes that both Kimi and Fernando used the same number of hard tyres during qualifying (one set in Q1), but magically Kimi’s hards in the race were used while Fernando’s not? hahaha That’s indeed funny, I don’t know who told you that. Check things yourself.

      14. Carlos says:

        NickH, most of the top runners made two stops, so it would be reasonable to assume that Ferrari thought that was the optimum strategy. Alonso was using up his tires too quickly so he asked to be put on a 3-stop strategy. At that point in the race the team probably thought it was sub-optimal so they didn’t change both cars to that strategy. Given the Ferrari’s degradation, that turned out to be wrong. I don’t think any of it happened on purpose though.

      15. NickH says:

        @yago. Maybe check your facts about Alonso having less wing in qualifying, assumed from having higher top speeds in the traps.

        It couldn’t have possibly been down to his KERS producing over the maximum allowed output, which is why Ferrari had to adjust it on his car on not on Kimi’s car. Look at Ted Kravitz notebook

      16. Alex says:

        Who told me that? the F1, the Live Timimg App was showing Kimi on used tyres while Alonso in new ones, also the guys from Fox Sports said he was on used tyres. Now go yourself and make some research before offending the others, maybe they know more than you and your magical believing about Alonso.

      17. James Allen says:

        Kimi had Medium Used, Medium Used, Hard Used

        Alo had MU, MU, HN, MU

        Ferrari had poor quail pace in Spain and used up a lot of tyres getting through.

        In contrast HAM had 2 sets of new Hards and one set of new Meds for the race

      18. Yago says:


        Thanks for your comment, and for make me see there is people like you reading with common sense and tons of knowledge of F1.

        I read the entry in your blog, and I have to say I share exactly the same view on driver greatness and talent, the relative weight of driver input and car factor, and the effect of the car on how a driver is perceived.

      19. Yago says:

        @ James Allen and Alex

        Technically Raikkonen set of Hards was used, BUT it had just an out lap. It was due to a red flag by Maldonado in Q1, it cought Kimi out on track but he did not start his flying lap. Later, for his timed lap, he used the other set of hards. So the set was practically new, with no fast lap on it (how much is worth an out lap, maybe 2 hundreds?…).

        This is the reason why I said check things yourself. Apologies if it was a bit harsh, but I was a bit tired of clarifying things.

        Regarding Hamilton, I think you made a mistake James. He used a set of hards in Q1, so he had only one set of new hards for the race. His new set of softs was because he used only one set of softs in Q2, and none in Q3.

      20. Yago says:

        *None in Q1 sorry.

      21. H.Guderian (ALO fan) says:


        Kimi used an extra set of tyres on Q3, otherwise he wouldn’t be able to reach Q2.

        He has beaten Alo on Q3 but fail on the race for the lack of new tyres.

      22. H.Guderian (ALO fan) says:

        Yago, great post!!!
        But don’t waist your time.
        It’s useless to use *facts* with Kimi fans.

      23. Warren G says:

        Sorry, I feel very little sympathy for a driver that let an actual rival go without fight only 9 laps from the end just so he could battle his team mate who was coming up just as quickly from behind.

        I used to enjoy Kimi as a driver but that stunt right there put him in the petulant child camp right with Massa, who also used to defend as hard as he could on the rare occassion he found himself ahead of Alonso. The goal should have been to beat Vettel, NOT his bloody teammate.

      24. pm says:

        Are you kidding. Kimi had NO chance against the red bull which was going 2 seconds a lap faster. Of course he wasn’t going to be able to fight vettel. Alonso is the one who cares about beating his teammate. After quality yesterday kimi didn’t care that he beat alonso, he was just unhappy that he wasn’t winning

      25. Harshad says:

        Ferrari should understood that!but they didn’t.
        Kimi’s engineer asked Kimi not to race Vettel, because Vettel was on fresh tyres!!

        Ferrari sucks to say the least.

      26. Elie says:

        How much further was Vettel to both of them at the end of the race on the mediums ( Kimi on used older Hards).. Someone is petulant chimp but its not any of the drivers…

      27. Yago says:

        Exactly, the tatget was keeping Vettel behind, something all this people don’t give a s…. They only care about his hero beating Fernando, something that is not going to happen.

      28. abashrawi says:

        Actually, Ferrari told Kimi to not waste time with Vettel as he was too fast for them. And by the way, that also contradicts with what some said above about Ferrari boxing Alonso to protect both from Vettel as it seems they were aware Ferrari was no match for RedBull.

        By the way, I respect both drivers, and I understand Ferrari for giving preference to Alonso as he is ahead in points. I just wished, as a Formula 1 fan if they given both a fair chance to race each other for fans sake.

      29. ManOnWheels says:

        That is called intelligent driving. If you time is running out to the end of the race and you know you can’t hold the driver attacking you at the moment, but you could with a little bit of luck hold the next one (or make it across the line just before he gets his chance), then you don’t waste any time fighting the inevitable, because it would just slow you down.

      30. Yago says:

        And think this, if the three stopper was better, why didn’t Rosberg do the same, for example?

      31. NickH says:

        Because they have better tyre management and also because Rosberg knows he has to try imaginative strategies to beat Lewis

      32. Alex says:

        Because Mercedes don’t have a degradation problem as Ferrari clearly has, and also he had just one car in front, Vettel 3rd stop was planned to make him able to pass cars in the middle of the race, different positions, different strategies, Ferrari same stupid calls.

      33. Yago says:

        @ Alex again,

        Ferrari simulations said that a two stopper was 7 seconds faster for them than three stopper. I know it thanks to De la Rosa, who is actively involved in race strategy preparation, as he is the simulator driver.

        And exactly, as I am sure James will tell tomorrow, Vettel was compromised by track position and he did a three stopper just to do different than the guys in front and be able to run more time in clean air, so he could unleash his speed. But the faster strategy was Ricciardo’s, at least on paper.

      34. Yago says:

        Before Alonso did his second stop, he reduced the distance to Kimi from near something like 2.7 seconds to 1.6 seconds. That is colled managing the tyres and gap to he car in front. Kimi was not pulling away by any means. Some of you are completely blind.

      35. NickH says:

        Well both times he didn’t pass him even benefiting from the undercut with Kimi on worn tyres. Kimi should have been on the same strategy as the cars behind and he would have finished ahead deservedly. Did you not see his interview? He also thinks his strategy was rubbish and he is a lot more experienced than you.

        Ferrari just pleasing Santander in Spain, if you cannot see this then perhaps you should visit specsavers

    13. quest says:

      It was a particularly poor strategy because it has zero upside, only risk. He wouldn’t have beaten Bottas who was on the strategy and in a faster car and the top 3 were too far.
      It would have been safest for Kimi to follow the same strategy as the guys behind him. Even for the first stop, Alonso was given preference.

      I have suspicion it was done especially because the race was in Spain.

      1. J.Storm says:

        It was the expected political decision from Ferrari, Alonso was home and please remember one of their main sponsors is Santander, also spanish.
        It’s nothing close to a signal that Ferrari ditched Kimi to a second driver position, as some may think, just a cold business choice.

    14. H.Guderian (ALO fan) says:

      Same BS as the days with Massa.

      Alonso *is* the number 1 driver.

      He has 41 points (3rd place)
      Kimi has 11 points (12th place – BEHIND MASSA!!!)

      See driver standings on the right side.

      Why did you expect something different from Ferrari. Number one status in gained on track. Kimi has a lot to do. He didn’t show anything yet.

      1. Sri says:

        The status is as the race position on the track, not the WDC table.

      2. Harshad says:

        What championship are you talking about?
        Ferrari are 2 second a lap slower than Mercedes and they can’t even beat Red Bulls.
        If you are thinking that Alonso has a chance in the championships then you are delusional to say the least…

      3. H.Guderian (ALO fan) says:

        So far:

        Alo: 3rd place – 49 points.
        Vet: 4th place – 45 points.
        Ric: 5th place – 39 points.

        What are you talking about???

      4. Harshad says:

        @H.Guderian (ALO fan)

        So Far:
        1) Lewis Hamilton 1st place – 100 points
        2) Nico Rosberg 2nd Place – 97 points

        With Ferrari 2 sec a lap slower than Mercedes you think ALonso will beat Mercedes pair? Keep dreaming.

        Also, Ricciardo was disqualified from AUS GP, and Vettel suffered a non finish in AUS GP.

      5. NickH says:

        Alonso has no chance in the championship. Wake up.

      6. Yago says:


        Regarding Alonso top speed and the anomalies encountered in power delivery, it scapes my knowledge and how far I can go verifying facts. I know the same as you and Ted Kravitz, which is this circular about the FIA notticing something wrong. As the FIA didn’t take any further action, I assume it was not a major issue, and it was not having an effect on performance. But as I say, I can’t go further on this.

      7. James Allen says:

        I have spoken to senior engineers from several other teams on this and they see nothing untoward. if ALO MGI-K was out of whack it would have been by a small fraction, rather than some 60hp home advantage boost!
        That stuff belongs in the 1970s! Don’t forget FIA monitors everything via common ECU

      8. H.Guderian (ALO fan) says:

        If it’s that way, why they (all except Merc) go to the races??? Why expend millions of dollars if you know in advance you don’t have any chance???


        Ferrari (Alonso – Kimi is *so* far behind with only five races) is fighting to end in 3rd place. They are fighting to beat RBR.

        Wake up!!!

        “Alonso has no chance in the championship”. Yes. What about Kimi???

        Alo: 3rd place – 49 points.
        Kim: 11th place – 17 points.

    15. Vivek says:

      I laughed so hard after the first round of pit stops when Alonso, despite the underhandedness, ended up behind Kimi.

      Then the 2nd round made it clear what was going on. Kimi was forced into a 2 stop to make things look above board. No way was he going to hold on to his lead with the gap as it was at that stage.

      Even more frustrating for me were Brundle and Croft on sky constantly yammering on about Rosberg and Hamilton when at that point the action was happening elsewhere. Vettel was about to unleash the Bull and Ferrari was busy throwing its last world champion under the bus. Again.

    16. Bert Puttocks says:

      Yep, Kimi got screwed, we all know it.

      1. Phil Glass says:

        I know there’s nothing funny about screwing your own driver, but just imagine if this was Webber [remember him from last year RBR?] in Kimi’s place. We’d never have heard the end of it :) :)

        At least Kimi will put this to one side and get on with his next race and I’m putting a hundred bucks on him thrashing the mate.

      2. JohnH says:

        Everyone including Webber have moved on, don’t you think it’s time you did?

      3. jF says:

        On the other hand, sometimes your favorite driver is slower than the other guy

      4. H.Guderian (ALO fan) says:

        ALL IN!!!

    17. CH says:

      Ferrari replace Kimi with FA, then bring back Kimi coincident issues with FA, now they give preference to FA on pit stop. Dysfunctional? Now if they’d only replace Stefano….

      1. toleman fan says:

        > “Now if they’d only replace Stefano….”

        Brilliant. You really had me going there.

    18. nenad says:

      After last year’s skirmishes between Alonso and LDM, love is in the air in the Ferrari again. LDM blaming Ferrari for not giving Alonso a car to compete with Mercedes and RB, which is of course true, but just make sure he is not beaten by his team mate in front of a home crowd, they screwed Kimi. Now Alonso is happy, LDM also because it is not him and Alonso making mistakes, but Ferrari and Kimi.

    19. greg says:

      I believe that the Ferrari strategy team has now reserved themselves a place in hell.

      1. toleman fan says:

        Sense of proportion, much?

      2. HulkenBerg says:

        I think it is Kimi who is currently in driver hell….with his best pal Stefano gone, he may have no one watching his back in the Italian team.

        In 2009/2010, Ferrari forced Kimi to move over to make way for Fernando. Now, they are both in the same team, it will be pretty much the same.

        The only problem is, Kimi won’t receive $25 million to move out of the way.

    20. Looks like Kimi was sacrificed to please Santader and Barcelona fans.

      1. dren says:

        That is how I see it. Kimi had the better of Alonso all weekend. With all of that Santander money flowing in and the race being in Spain, Alonso was going to “get” the better of him in the race one way or another.

    21. Michael Spitale says:

      I think the main thing to keep focus on was the fact that Alonso pitted first. That is the coveted spot usually for the driver in the lead on a team. Stopping first would have even given Kimi a chance to cover Grosjean instead of having to pass him on track.

      As soon as I saw Alonso pit first I was sure they were looking to get him by Kimi and they probably would have if he had not hit traffic on his out lap.

      Great qualy and race by Kimi… Looks as if he is getting this car down finally.

    22. deancassady says:

      I think you are a bit harsh, here.
      Alonso drove a great race.
      Some times there are communications issues, like Lewis losing a couple seconds in the pits to Rosberg; it happens; so it happens at Ferrari, and since Alonso arrived there, it’s followed a similar pattern.
      Kimi knew what he was doing when he went back to Ferrari; he knows what he is doing.
      The Ferrari packages were pretty much on par; that is already a huge deficit made up by car number 7.
      Let’s wait and see how the next race goes?

      1. Elie says:

        Dean blind freddy could see that Kimi was shafted for Sandtander & Spain..

      2. deancassady says:

        As you may recall, we see eye-to-eye on quite a few things here.
        But you seem to miss the point here, and I know such as you can well understand it.
        The reason, one way or another, is NOT relevant; either it was, or it wasn’t.
        But in either case, Kimi knew what he was getting in to. He must have understood the complexion of how the Red corporation/family works; he knows Ferrari. He knows much more about the argy-bargy there, than you and I.
        So, it’s like, I know you can get over it, having this positive reinforcement of what you already know, he knew what he was getting into; no point in getting upset about it, while he’s trying to get the car modified to something he can work with.

        Hey is it just me ,or do you suspect that Alonso, like Button (I think), just may not be all that strong, on the development side of F1 driver skills?
        Chew on that one, and let me know what you think, if/when you are feeling like it.

      3. deancassady says:

        Hey, and what do you think of the hold/slow on Lewy in the pits? in comparison…

      4. Elie says:

        Yep.. Thats Mercedes trying to improve the show I’m guessing & Lewis winning by 30sec +is not good for the sport. I wont be surprised if theres a loose wheelnut in Monaco to help calm the german fans

      5. Elie says:

        Amen bro.You may have seen a post or two on the development side of why I think Raikkonen adds value to Ferrari. No surprise that every car Alonso, Button,Massa goes one step forward and 2 steps back over many years not just one. With Raikkonen when the team listen to what he says it goes from decent to ballistic. Lotus last 2 years were perfect eg . Even when the team took to the long wheelbase E21 last year with added aero benefits on long circuits – it had negative impact on handling (understeer) – he had the courage to push back to the short wheel base and made it 1/2 sec faster at Abu Dhabi.
        Hamilton too was always able to get the Mclaren moving forward every year closer to the tail of the invincible RB7-9. Naturally gifted drivers have that feel in a car dont they!. Of course they are not engineers & they dont build cars but teams have enough resources to really translate this feel to improving a car. I Iistened to James Allisons recent Ferrari wrap of its drivers and it was evident that he focused on Kimis excellent work with the engineers & unsurprisingly how it would “very soon” deliver results on track. Barcelona is just the start and already FA garage are turning up the wick on the PU because anyone with sense knows Raikkonen only goes forward once he works out a car.

  3. Harshad says:

    Vettel the Driver of the day, from 15th to 4th with lots of bold overtaking moves.
    Excellent drive by the champion.

    1. TheSpanishInqusitor says:

      I agree 100%

    2. Michael says:

      …and he still lost out to his teammate by 27 seconds.

      1. Miha Bevc says:

        Oh, c’mon. Vettel had one pit stop more, spend entire first stint in traffic, had to do a lot of overtaking. Ricciardo spent most of the afternoon in clean air. He drove well and deserved podium, but give Vettel some credit when due.

      2. kenneth chapman says:

        did you give ricciardo the same accolade when he ran from 13th to 4th a couple of races back? and don’t forget ricci is no 4 x WDC either. just having his first 5drives in a decent car, or not so decent at the moment!

      3. toleman fan says:


      4. GarryT says:

        @Miha And he still could have had a third stop and been in front of Vettel and with the newer tyres from a third stop still pulled away like Seb did in latter stages.

        So in short Dan had Seb covered.

      5. Rohind says:

        @ Kenneth Chapman : Ricciardo had some help with safety car which cut the lead of the front runners in that race

      6. Andy says:

        If Vettel had started within a few grid slots of Ricciardo, Vettel would have beaten him comfortably today. When Ricciardo was on mediums, Vettel was on hards, 2 laps older, but lapping equal to or within a few tenths of Ricciardo.
        Considering the lack of running Vettel had over the weekend, his race performance was top notch. Something has changed and he is back on it.

    3. Gaz Boy says:

      Yes, a spirited performance from the reigning WDC. How long before he has to surrender his crown?

      1. JF says:

        Well before the end of the season. Merc will have this one tied up early.

        The others need to start considering 2014 as a test session for 2015.

      2. grat says:

        It’s part of Mercedes contribution to cost-savings… With both championships tied up by the summer break, everyone can focus on next year’s car. :)

    4. Blackmamba says:

      Actually Grosjean had the best drive today coz that Lotus should be nowhere near the top 10. Red Bull is the 2nd fastest car on the grid so that was expected from Vettel. Same as we saw from Rosberg in China when he dropped to 6th. He is expected to come through in a superior package. Now if he takes pole or a win from Merc or just comprehensively beat Daniel THEN and only then can he be regarded as an exceptional talent. We have seen this kind of drive before from the likes of Perez and Grosjean and no one is lining up to lay the red carpet for them!

      1. Michael Givens says:

        Please tell them because people have short memory and forget easily. No need to praise Vettel for what was expected from him and like you said they have the second fastest car so we should expect nothing else. plain and simple

      2. Rohind says:

        If Vettel wins, itz coz, he has got the fastest car. If Vettel scores 3/4th, itz coz he’s got the second fastest car. If vettel scores 5/6th he has got 3rd fastest car. How more biased can u guys be????

        Now you want him to prove himself by winning against a car that is 2 seconds quicker than rest of the field and has better reliability than other??

        Some of the overtakes that he did yesterday was splendid. And to come up through the field in a track where it is traditionally difficult to overtake, with absolutely no running in free practice and a terrible qualifying session is nothing short of a champion drive.

        If Hamilton or Alonso had done it, you guys would be chirping away for rest of the year.
        Learn to respect the talent and give the credit where it is due, whether it is Alonso, Hamilton, Raikkonen,Ricciardo or Vettel

      3. toleman fan says:

        Have we got a surprise for you.

      4. PP says:

        When was the last time Perez and Grosjean made up 11 places in a race? My memory fails me…

      5. Dr T says:

        Surely they’ve started from the back of the grid and made it to 11th at some point in time :-)

      6. ferggsa says:

        Just last race in China Perez started 16th and ended 9th, 7 spots ahead
        I am sure if he was driving an RB instead of an FI he would have made 4 more

      7. ferggsa says:

        I did some digging and in Canada 2012 Perez went from 15 to 3rd, 12 spots, and in Monza from 12 to 2nd, 10 spots
        All that in a Sauber, mind you

      8. PP says:

        You miss the point. The point is that Vettel could only have gotten as high as 4th, which he did. Yet for some mystifying reason you expect him to have beaten Ricciardo, who started 12 places ahead of him. Why are you so desperate to dismiss anything that Vettel does well?

    5. aveli says:

      in a car which was fast enough to set the fastest lap.

    6. Goob says:

      Bold overtaking is a void claim when DRS does all the work…

      Without DRS, Vettel would not be able to overtake a donkey cart…

      1. Andrew M says:

        Barely any of his overtakes were DRS assisted…

      2. KRB says:

        His overtakes of Raikkonen and Bottas were both DRS-assisted down into Turn 10.

        Horner claims they’re only 0.5s/lap down on Mercedes. After the first round of stops, after he’d jumped BOT, RIC was 20.854s behind HAM on lap 22. He finished 49.014s back, so he lost another 28.16s over 44 laps, which works out to 0.64s/lap. Not far off what Horner was saying then.

      3. Emanuel Martin says:

        You did watch the race right? DRS wasn’t much of a factor in Seb’s charge. The RBR still lacks straight line speed.

      4. Ben says:

        I remember him doing several over takes without DRS. He was doing it in a place no one else was over taking. The speed deficit the red bull (Renault) have means that DRS isn’t very effective

      5. JF says:

        They all have drs. Even field.

      6. Goob says:

        LOL – they all have DRS… but never at the same time…

        DRS is just a gimmick to help top constructors get their cars more TV time when they drive by a slower car with a better driver.

        DRS is an anti-skill device.

    7. Dave C says:

      Yeah fastest lap as well over 1sec faster Ricciardo’s best lap all this with limited running with this dodgy new/old chassis this whole weekend. I’m sure Dan will be a match for Seb at Monaco but the conservative race pace of Ricciardo was on show again today, needs to do better if Dan is to become a world class driver and a title challenger.

      1. HP says:

        lol Ricciardo didn’t need to go for the fastest lap, all he had to do was drive strategically as he was never gonna catch the Mercs. the only reason Vettel got the fastest lap was because he ad to drive fast to overtake other drivers. Not taking anything away from him though, brilliant drive from 15th to 4th.

      2. Glennb says:

        That is exactly how it went down HP. 3rd was always the best Dan could have achieved. Whether he finished 5 seconds or 50 seconds behind 2nd place made no difference to the points earned. He needed to do enough to finish in front of the guy behind is all. Seb was driving his race from 15th and naturally had to go balls-out to make up valuable places and points. Seb drove beautifully and deserved every place and point he achieved as did Dan. Under the circumstances this was a great result for all RBR.

      3. dufus says:

        Dan just needed to cruise and did.

      4. bmg says:

        Very optimistic, the only title contenders are the Mercedes drivers.

        He needs to just keep finishing races ahead of his team mate.

        Although the new car Vettel drove seems to be fast.

      5. kenneth chapman says:

        @ daveC….that’s a load of old garbanzos. ricciardo drove a sensible and mature race. why would he, or the team, stress the engine/PU any more than necessary. he had a comfortable buffer over vettel of some 29 secs or so.

        there are no WDC/WCC points for fastest laps and i would’ve thought a conservative approach was the order of the day.

      6. MrF1 says:

        Daniel switched from a 3 stopper to a 2 stopper. This required some tactical tyre management. Which he achieved. No ones posti f record laps when your in tyre management mode.

      7. hal says:

        Also didn’t Dan do one less pit stop so he would not have had the tires to push (not that he had anything to gain by pushing for a fast lap time). A bit meaningless comparing the two given their relative start positions and the fact that beating MB was never realistically on the table.

        Both did well today.

      8. HulkenBerg says:

        2 stop vs 3 stop. 3 stopper has more tyres to play with.

    8. luqa says:

      First time he has looked comfortable this year. Until Renault can equal their power unit to MB, everyone will be fighting for third place.
      In terms of spectacle, worse than last year where MW made things more interesting..

    9. J.Storm says:

      A good sign from Vettel, after all he is a champion and he will fight to prove he isn’t just a lucky driver, that he has the drive and abilities to be in the leading pack on the grid. I hope he does, it would make for a better show all around.

    10. Grant H says:

      +1 cant argue with that!!!

    11. Joel says:

      Actually, With Vettel’s penalty – his car was optimized for race pace whereas the rest of the cars were in parc ferme. This would have played a significant part in his race pace. However, credit is due here to Vettel for the way he drove.

      1. uan says:

        no, Vettel’s car was in parc ferme as well. If they changed the set up, he would have needed to start from the pit lane after everyone already started.

        He even needed to start on the tires that he got into Q3 on per the regs.

      2. John says:

        Vettel’s car was also in parc ferme. If it wasn’t, he would have started from the pit lane like in Abu Dhabi 2012.

    12. bmg says:

      It kills me to say it, I agree.

    13. grat says:

      Tough call between Vettel, who put in a solid performance, with some fast laps, and Hamilton, who drove a car that clearly had some issues, and managed to keep Rosberg behind him anyway.

      1. JF says:

        Issues are relative, if he was losing time to Ferrari/RBR rather than the second Merc I would have more sympathy!

        It was a good drive.

    14. Robert says:

      There is only a few champions (maybe only one) in past years that can equal Vettel’s drive on Sunday. I do not like Vettel, but I have to take my hat off for his drive. No challenger for driver of the day in my opinion.

      1. KRB says:

        It was a good drive, but I remember Hamilton’s drive in Spain 2012: started 24th, finished 8th, and beat his teammate, who started 10th. So 16 places made up, and got ahead of his teammate 14 places ahead. Didn’t go overboard about it.

  4. Rohind says:

    What a drive by Vettel!!! Undoubtedly the best of today.

    Kimi got a raw deal from Ferrari..He was the leading car and he got a poor call on the strategy to deliberately put Alonso ahead

    1. Anil Parmar says:

      It was to cover Massa. Pitting Kimi first would have let Massa take Alonso. Thankfully they were able to use Alonso as a buffer. Such a shame they didn’t cover Vettel though; they really blew the final stint. Why they didn’t pit Alonso 2 or 3 laps earlier is beyond me.

      1. Rohind says:

        I might be mistaken. But you say they pitted Alonso to cover Mass.But the gap between Kimi and Alonso wasnt that big when they pitted ( less than a second I believe )

        My question is why Ferrari didnt feel the need to cover Massa against Raikkonen. Massa could have been a threat to Raikkonen as well.

        I think the call to switch Kimi to a 2 stopper was made after Alonso failed to undercut him after 1st round of pit stops.
        2 stopper was not an effective strategy for Ferrari as they seems to be harder on tyres this year.If they had made proper calls, I believe Raikkonen could have been ahead of Vettel or atleast put up a better fight

      2. Anil Parmar says:

        Alonso dropped back to Raikonnen at the end of the stint (presumably to save his tyres). According to the live timing, he had DRS on Kimi for much of the stint, before dropping back. In fact I think the Massa-Alo gap was closer than the Kimi-Alo gap just before the stops, hence the need to pit Alonso first.

        If Ferrari decided to pit Kimi first, Alonso would have got leapfrogged by Massa and we would have lost points.

        That said, you’re right about the 2 stopper thing. Ferrari should have chose to pit both drivers; with fresh tyres we could have kept Seb behind.

      3. Elie says:

        Keep telling yourself that- noone believes you

      4. Anil Parmar says:

        Elie I’d highly recommend buying the live timing app. It’ll explain the Massa thing pretty clearly. Remember, the massa-alo gap was smaller than the Kimi-Alo gap as alonso had backed down to get the 2s gap just as DR did to bottas.

      5. Elie says:

        @Anil – you think only you have the app

      6. NickH says:

        That was Alonso’s fault for qualifying behind Kimi. Tough luck. Kimi should have got Alonso’s strategy, not the other way round.

      7. thinktank says:

        Anil, ALO was undercuting RAI not MAS.

      8. Anil Parmar says:

        You’ve missed my point..go back and read the live timings. Alonso dropped back from Kimi from around lap12 onwards to look after the tyres; that meant Massa was ready to undercut him. As the Williams was faster than the Ferrari on the options they had to pit Alonso. Alonso could not have undercut kimi in the 1st round of pitstops as he dropped back to 2s.

  5. KRB says:

    This was an important win for Hamilton. It’s the difference between going into Monaco 4-1 up in wins, or just 3-2. Also, the 4 wins on the trot is important, as anyone who’s won 4 consecutive races in a season has gone on to win the DWC. Some of the three-in-a-row winners lost out in the end (Alan Jones in ’79; Senna in ’89; Prost in ’90; Mansell in ’91; Hill in ’93 & ’94; Schumi in ’98 & ’06), but no 4x winner has. Of course, there were less races in most of those seasons, so a 4-race win streak was worth relatively more then.

    Total race time was almost 2 minutes slower than 2013, when Alonso won while 4-stopping.

    Did anyone see the ‘Winner’ graphic come up on the FOM feed, when Rosberg was leading after Lewis’ first stop? Was supposed to show him in the #1 spot, not as the Winner. Thought that was funny.

    Brownie points to Lewis for bee-lining right to Dieter Zetsche after the race, whereas Rosberg it seemed was in too much of a haze afterwards to remember.

    Great race for both Ricciardo and Vettel, and Bottas as well.

    1. Lewee says:

      for – mal – i – ty

      - a thing that is done simply to comply with requirements

      - 2014 Formula 1 season, henceforth renamed Formula Mercedes AMG

      - an inevitability.

      Did Lewis and Nico break a sweat?   With slower times the forces and loads driver is subjected to are significantly lower this year.  This was literally a stroll in the park. C63 experienced same forces when his woman sent him out to fetch coffee and a baguettes in his AMG before the GP! :-)

      Did you see the 17s gap to P3 by lap 11?  2s per lap preserved for Euro season.   Mercedes is the F1 car.  All others on the grid are GP2 cars. No need to run multiple classes in one race as Random suggests.

      1. Sebee says:

        Darn it…clearing cache now. Back to Sebee.

      2. Glennb says:

        Nice one Sebee :) You had me fooled for a minute. I thought we gained another HAM fan.

      3. JF says:

        Wow–sadly true however. Merc only needs to run at 75% (I previously was thinking closer to 90%) to crush the rest. It could take years for the other teams to find the magic mix– but thats formula1– dynasties come and go– just ask Mclaren, Williams, Ferrari and now Red Bull.

      4. Sebee says:

        Yes..this is true. Mercedes is likely to dominate for a few years.

        This is what hurts a bit. Hope was that this new formula would make it close. Having come from 4 years of “domination”, prospects of 4 more are not fun. Would have been nice if what happened after Schumi happened again.

      5. Gazza says:

        The drivers are having to work far harder than ever to drive these cars.
        Did you hear Damon Hill on Sky today, he said he drove a recent Red Bull and couldn’t believe how on rails the car was in the corners.
        Hes glad the cars cornering ability is now back in the hands of the drivers instead of the aerodynamicists.

      6. Sebee says:

        If you mean the drivers are working harder for traction, I won’t argue at all.

        Exactly what is necessary to control traction? Lift a foot? Slight turn of steering?

        Remember that there is essentially ABS for braking. As they are slower, they carry less force, less speed, less energy. Hence less Gs. Also, as they slide, the slide takes away from the forces their neck is subjected to, along with rest of body.

        I understand that cars are a bit more of a handful and we never had a reference on F1 forces anyway. But no doubt the drivers are not subjected to same G forces we used to see on acceleration, braking, and due to slides absorbing energy also less forces in cornering. And one more thing…these guys are pros. Eventually they are able to use the slide to their benefit I am sure. No one is spinning out much, are they?

      7. Gazza says:

        So sliding in the corner is making it more comfortable for there necks.!!

        Thats a new one on me. LOL!!

        The reduction in G due to a slightly reduced cornering speed is minuscule.

        Anybody can be trained to withstand a fantastic G loading if they don’t have to do anything.

        The better drivers are already coping with the slides……. that’s the whole point of taking the downforce off.

        Whats wrong with that.

      8. Sebee says:


        I haven’t noticed that G-Force graphic we used to see? Is it still around, or replaced by the heat camera? I must admit, I do like that thermal image, very RoboCop/Terminator like. People in the grandstands look so “cold” through it.

      9. Gazza says:

        So sliding in the corner is making it more comfortable for there necks.!!

        Thats a new one on me. LOL!!

        The reduction in G due to a slightly reduced cornering speed is minuscule.

        Anybody can be trained to withstand a fantastic G loading if they don’t have to do anything.

        The better drivers are already coping with the slides……. that’s the whole point of taking the downforce off.

        Whats wrong with that.

    2. Sebee says:

      I saw it on lap 20. I thought conspiracy, the script is already written. :-)

    3. Dryden Lewis says:

      don’t forget there is still the double points in the last race to factor in also. I hope the title is done by Austin so it doesn’t matter

      1. JF says:

        Yeah but Lewis will have the championship long before that.

      2. KRB says:

        Hmm, unless Rosberg suffers an equal number of DNF’s (or more) as Lewis, I don’t see how this doesn’t go down to at least the last three races, if not the last race.

        This is not like 2011 where Vettel rattled off six wins from the first eight races, but more importantly, it was usually different people coming in 2nd each time. Of those six wins, Alonso and Lewis came 2nd twice, and Webber and Button once each. That way, Vettel was able to carve out a 77 pt lead over the first eight races. After race 5, he was 41 pts up.

        After five races this year, Lewis leads by 3.

    4. Joe B says:

      I think the winner graphic was for fastest lap, but either way the TV director had a shocker today, can’t remember the last time coverage was that bad. Good race by the final quarter though, and a nail biter for us Ham fans!

    5. deancassady says:

      I expect both Red Bull packages to be very good by Monaco.
      The engine dominance of Mercedes may be somewhat neutralized in the town.
      I think it will end the Mercedes 1-2 finishes, at the very least.


    6. I know says:

      Yes, Lewis Hamilton did the smart thing after the race.

      Perhaps his enthusiastic behaviour towards Dr. Zetsche shows that he still has some doubts over whether Mercedes might give their German driver preferential treatment. However, if he continues to drive like he does at the moment, and if he remains as positive in his interviews and his whole behaviour off the track as he is right now, he has nothing to worry about.

      I don’t think Daimler could ask for a better winner.

      1. AuraF1 says:

        I still think if Mercedes were to favour either driver it would be the one they pay 10 times as much for. I get the whole German angle pressure for a home win but Lewis is the bigger cash investment and as a cold business decision it makes more sense.

        Hopefully they just let them race to the end though. If nothing else that is doing wonders for their PR.

      2. Sebee says:

        Yes, it hardly makes sense to pay one driver way more and then not throw your resources behind that investment. You know, Rosberg is such a Mercedes man, I wonder if that situation will come to a head at some point. Like in this GP, it felt a little bit as if Mercedes “wanted” Rosberg to have a go. Not sure if it was to liven up the finish, or to beat Lewis, or to simply give us a show and get the TV director to give their cars some attention at the end, but it felt intentional and it was always going to be at Lewis’ expense.

        I don’t like Ferrari showing their “colors” on the Kimi/Alonso bit, but I half expected it. Let’s be honest, Alonso brings huge Santander money and keeps that sponsor happy. As a team, you’re going to always appreciate that revenue. Not to mention Alonso gets the big bucks on that team as well.

        Hard thing to explain to your sponsors why their golden boy is getting whipped. But in case of Mercedes, it’s the same sponsor backing both, and it will eventually come down to…are you ready for my theory…which one of the two drivers test better with audience in China, it’s the only market Mercedes is having issues with, and it is the one they need to win to be #1 brand (currently #3 behind BMW and Audi).

      3. AuraF1 says:

        Actually the TV drama thing might hold some merit. There were several people at SKY who mentioned to me that Infinity/Renault were unhappy at the track FOM TV directors general lack of screen time for Sebastian Vettel since a lot of the time he was out on his own with no action.

        It might have come to Mercedes attention that the plaudits they got for allowing their drivers to race in Bahrain was worth serious goodwill in image. Let’s face it, every pundit on TV is giving props to Wolff and Lowe for not calling the fight off. They clearly have a slightly better head for racing media than Red Bull do (who’s PR is mostly based around youth-orientated extreme sports and doesn’t seem to have quite the iron-grip over the F1 side). It can’t have escaped their attention that winning races by over 60 seconds from their nearest rivals is often going to lead to TV directors desperately looking around for on track action.

        Of course they might just have a genuine split down the engineering lines, and Mercedes want to keep both sides happy, and at least stop the sort of open warfare that often leapt up at Red Bull (where some of Mark’s mechanics often complained in private on their drivers’ behalf).

      4. SaScha says:

        I had the feeling Mercedes was slowing down Lewis deliberately, to “Spice up” the show. It started after fRiday as it looked like a walk in the park for Hamilton. IMO Mercedes wants to keeps the WDC as long as possible open, the races , too. At Friday Lewis would have finished 30 sec ahead of Rosberg in the race. That would not have been in their interest. The pit stops looked like deliberately nor really fast on Lewis side, too.
        I think they wanted to give Rosberg a boost with a chance to beat Lewis in Barcelona

      5. KRB says:

        It’s not 10x more. Nico is on 11m euros, Lewis somewhere north of 20m euros.

        I think if Merc were wondering which driver they’d back, if they had to choose, those last 10 laps in Bahrain removed any doubt. They don’t need to favour either one this year, but looking forward to a time where other teams are on par with Merc, they know which one is capable of making the difference between winning or coming second.

      6. AuraF1 says:

        Where did you get the drivers salaries from KRB? According to Lauda, Brawn and Ron Dennis, they are paying Hamilton a lot more than that – and it’s significantly more than Nico.

        But I agree, they will know from their data who the best ‘bet’ is for a championship and unless Hamilton goes into another 2011 funk and starts crashing again (unlikely as that looked to mostly be frustration and outside events) then he’s always going to be the better bet than Nico.

        Still I think Mercedes have made a PR decision to let them race as it makes them look good and keeps the drivers from throwing the toys out of the pram when the pressure mounts.

  6. Hiten says:

    The moment when Martin Brundle had to shut his mouth up when Vettel overtook Magnussen was simply amazing!!!

    1. HP says:

      Why what was he saying? I always watch BBC coverage whenever they’re showing it live.

      1. Hiten says:

        He was saying something like “4-time world champion is used to driving a car” and then before he could finish his sentence Vettel made his move and overtook..he didn’t complete his earlier sentence..timing was perfect.

    2. Sebee says:

      Is it me or did commentators try to make that GP more exciting than it was with voice tone?

      Question that has been directed at women from time to time…did they fake it? Commentators I mean…

      1. Andrew M says:

        I think the team radio made it seem closer than it was, as they endlessly highlighted Hamilton’s “problems” while making Nico’s relentless march to victory seem almost inevitable. I also think the commentators downplayed how difficult it is to pass at Barca still, most of the passes we saw (Vettel on Bottas/Kimi, Alonso on Kimi) were due to very different strategies and tyres 10-odd laps apart.

      2. aveli says:

        were the mercedes pair on the same tyres at the end of the race?
        Was the result known before the winner crossed the line?
        Not so exciting if it wasn’t the result you hoped for.

      3. JF says:

        They are trying very hard. Kind of like Golf or curling commentators. Have to make the most out of what us becoming a slow patient sport.

      4. deancassady says:

        Oh yeah.
        the talk up was painful.
        there are two formulas going on, the winning manufacturer can only lose if the drivers take one another out.

      5. kenneth chapman says:

        in a nutshell…yes they did. a great dose of fakery.

      6. Elie says:

        DC fails dismally at it all season. His voice goes up when someone overtakes then realises oassed car comes out of the pits and then reverts to his monotone. Drivers of past eras “cant fake it” – Im sure they can see ” tip toe through the tulips”.. But in fairness tyres choice f/ up this weekend.. Good job Pirelli messed up last and over compensated this year

      7. AuraF1 says:

        I think that’s their job though right? If a commentator just said, ‘this race is dull you best cancel your subscription and watch paint dry’ every five minutes I think their contracts would be up pretty quick!

      8. NickH says:

        Lol Exactky

      9. Sebee says:

        You are right of course. It’s just weird to have someone scream in ecstasy when nothing exciting is going on.

    3. Mhilgtx says:

      I take it Brundle is not a fan of Vettel and maybe some of the reason so much Vettel hate even before Multi 21 last year.

      1. Andrew M says:

        Brundle used to talk Vettel up endlessly, mocking the idea that he couldn’t overtake etc. He does seem to have cooled towards him recently though.

      2. Hiten says:

        Yeah..at the end of race he did say driver of the day has to be Vettel..though begrudgingly.

      3. AuraF1 says:

        Brundle has been annoyed on twitter about Vettel talking down F1. He has never disliked his driving, I think he just suggests world champions should promote the sport as an ambassador.

      4. David in Sydney says:

        I think it was Vettel’s growing arrogance that rubbed him up the wrong way… in any event, Vettel was awesome today – I don’t think he’d have challenged the Mercs.

    4. Hiten says:

      Correction – This happened on lap 10 when he overtook Gutierrez.

  7. Francois says:

    Funny how team dependant the classification is, only Massa is out of order. Mercedes is scary dominant, maybe Red Bull with rain might win this year.

    1. TGS says:

      And Maldonadon’t

  8. Gudien says:

    Where was the second Caterham?

    1. NFR says:

      KOB retired because of a technical issue.

  9. Monkian says:

    Sebastian Vettel, that boy can’t overtake…..

    1. James Allen says:

      I know, tragic isn’t it?

      1. Anil Parmar says:

        Tbf, he did have a much faster car than most of the cars he was fighting (Mclarens, Ferrari’s) but it was a great recovery drive. I still haven’t seen him fight a rival in the way I saw Rosberg fight Lewis in Bahrain though, or Lewis-Kimi at Spa 08.

        The pecking order of this race surprised me though. You had the Merc’s WAY ahead of everyone, followed by the Red Bull’s and then a big gap to the Williams and Ferrari’s.

      2. Rohind says:

        Tbf, track in Spain is traditionally difficult to overtake.On top of it, he had limited running in Free practise and troubled qualifying and I think some of his overtakes weren’t even DRS assisted.
        Redbull is good at running in clean air.So many of these overtakes came as a surprise considering that Ricciardo couldnt close in on Bottas in the first stint

        Not a fair comparison with Nico.
        Nico-Lewis fight was entertaining to the viewers. But Nico absolutely blew that one.Though on faster tyres, his overtaking strategy was poor and he kept on repeating the same moves.He should have won in Bahrain and Yesterday. He was within 2s at least for last 5 laps in a faster car and couldn’t close in.One might say he’s a ‘choker’.

        Nico is a good driver.But if you cant win when you are the fastest, i don’t know when you are going to win. People are giving Vettel stick becoz of Ricciardo. But I’m sure if Ricciardo was in Mercedes or in Ferrari ( with equal treatment), he would have raised a strong challenge to Hamilton and Alonso as well.He seems like a World Champion material.

      3. I know says:

        He had a faster car, but after the first stint, he also had a lot of ground to make up. Hard to tell who did the better job, Vettel or Ricciardo, as they both maximised the potential.

        Monaco qualifying between Vettel and Ricciardo (as well as the other inter-team battles) will be fascinating, and with the way the cars behave this year, the race should be quite good as well.

      4. Robert says:

        Yes, the Red Bull is the faster car. Yes, Ricardo is so much better than his 4 x champion team mate.

        Rubbish, Ricardo could not take the Williams on the track, but Vettel took Williams, Lotus and Ferrari on on track. He have taken gaps that Alonso did not dare to take in this years car. He also had only one hour of preparation for this race. This is what real champions are made off.

      5. Tealeaf says:

        Ric is a decent solid driver BUT he’s no Vettel, it seems the issue with Seb’s car lies in that gearbox or somewhere in the drivetrain, once the box was changed I can see with a fresh PU he’ll do things in this car that will make Dan look like a bot. It was as if we were looking at a different driver in this race, ots a difficult car to overtake with as Dan proved against the Williams due to lack of top speed but the moves Seb pulled off going that deep into the braking zone surely deserves praise no? I wonder if Seb will follow Newey to Ferrari if Alonso throws a fit and walks and joins RBR.

      6. Mike Martin says:

        Funny to see you coming to Vettels aid with some sarcasm. I wonder if you do that next time Hamilton or others get slandered.

      7. Cliff says:

        I don’t think that its sarcasm. Vettel is criticized for being unable to overtake. His record (SV)shows that in recent years he has been at the front in most of the races, and by definition he has not had to overtake. Look back over the past 30 years and show me a WDC in the best car that has had to do a lot of overtaking, you will find odd races throughout any given season, but finding consistent overtaking will be difficult. Probably the best example of this would be the Ferrari years of dominance in the early 2000′s, how often did MS have to chase a victory? I can’t say that i’ll ever be SV’s biggest fan, but to suggest he can’t overtake when he was invariably in front is a pretty poor argument.

      8. Bob says:

        LOL. Gave me a good laugh this comment. I am sure the VET haters will find something to diminish his drive. It’s funny how for many people when VET was winning everything on the best car it was all about the car, but when HAM wins everything on a far superior car, he is the brilliant driver…

        James, on a different note, with the ongoing talk about F1 losing popularity in this new era (sound, Mercedes dominance) what do actual popularity metrics like TV audiences and ticket sales are really showing.

      9. Tealeaf says:

        Its called double standards, Hamilton fanatics would say anything to tarnish Vettel’s reputation but this hollow Formula Mercedes championships is not down to the car, it’s Hamilton’s brilliance, the farce continues.

      10. Michael Givens says:

        Say it anyway you like the fact is there for all to see, when vettel was winning he had no team mate to make him honest and it was easy for him because he was the golden boy of redbull not so with Hamilton, Rosberg his given equal treatment so for now it is Hamilton’s brilliance that is keeping him ahead of Rosberg.

      11. PP says:

        And it is Red Bull’s special treatment that brought Vettel from 15th to 4th, that’s what you’re saying, right?

      12. TimW says:

        I havent seen any comments saying that Lewis is a brilliant driver for winning these past 4 races. I think he is a brilliant driver, but am well aware that the car advantage is huge.

      13. Tealeaf says:

        Michael Givens no driver to keep Seb honest? I think you’ll find Webber was a better faster driver than Rosberg.

      14. Bob says:

        Not that tricky in the second fastest car

      15. Blackmamba says:

        It’s pretty easy to do with far superior machinery. Now if he had caught and passed his team mate only THEN could anybody (neutrals of course) praise him for an exceptional drive. You gotta keep it in context. This is the reigning 4 time world champion we are talking about so he has to produce something special to silence someone like me with not much respect for him as someone who can be considered among the all time greats. Hell, I have seen better drives from Perez in 2012 Canada and Italy.

      16. SteveS says:

        “This is the reigning 4 time world champion we are talking about so he has to produce something special to silence someone like me with not much respect for him”

        My head hurts just trying to untangle the jumbled mess which is your thinking there.

        “if he had caught and passed his team mate only THEN could anybody (neutrals of course) praise him for an exceptional drive.”

        There’s always something with people like you. If he HAD caught and passed his teammate you’d simply move on to “If he had caught one of the Mercedes THEN neutrals like me might praise him”.

      17. Kbdavies says:

        @Gaz Boy -
        This is a lie that is being trotted out to claim Mercedes domination is purely down to the PU, and RBR are only being hampered by the Renault engine – as you have done.
        Both Mercs were faster than both Red Bulls in ALL sectors during the practice sessions; and i am sure sector times in the race will confirm this too.
        So far this season, i am yet to see RBR’s downforce superiority over Mercedes in any of the races so far. Simply put, the W05 is superior in EVERY area. At least for now.

      18. Gaz Boy says:

        RE KBDavies: I’d agree that the Merc has the most refined approach to the new regs, wouldn’t dispute that. And yes, its front wing and floor is very impressive, and its producing a huge amount of downforce. I wouldn’t dispute that at all.
        What I am saying is that the Red Bull is producing excellent downforce as well, not better, but not a million miles away from the Merc. Keep in mind that the Renault engine produces more thermal discharge than the Merc, so Red Bull have to run a larger radiator/side pod configuration which denudes straight-line speed, decreases efficiency and increases drag, and you start to appreciate how clever that Red Bull chassis is.
        My point, and I think it is a fair one, is that its not a battle of equals between the Bulls and Mercs. The Bulls have at least 80 lb of torque less than their silver rivals, and also have the handicap I have mentioned of greater thermal discharge compromising their aerodynamics. All things considered, I think the Milton Keynes brigade are metaphorically speaking fighting with one hand behind their backs compared to the silver dream machines!

      19. AlexD says:

        James, you know people did not question his abilities to overtake. He certain can, but he is one of many great drivers, not the greatest. I think Hamilton has a much tougher job to win with Rosberg this year than Vettel had with Webber.

        I am sure you understand why Vettel was disliked and it is mostly because of Helmut Marco. He did not need this treatment in order to win and because he got it, his reputation was damaged massively.

        And another fact, with a dominant car…there are other phenomenal drivers.

      20. SteveS says:

        “you know people did not question his abilities to overtake.”

        That’s a bare faced lie. People questioned that incessantly. Plenty of people did not even question it, they categorically insisted that Vettel cannot overtake.

        “I think Hamilton has a much tougher job to win with Rosberg this year than Vettel had with Webber.”

        No doubt. The question is, why do you imagine that reflects well on Hamilton and badly on Vettel? Why is Rosberg (beaten by Webber during their time together) now being elevated to the status of “much tougher” driver than Webber?

      21. Breton says:

        Steve S

        Rosberg was a rookie and Webber near to his best.

        Rosberg had the better of Schumi just.

      22. Tealeaf says:

        Doesn’t matter about being rookie in recent times especially with sim times and everything, Seb was basically a rookie in 2009 but still beat Webber.
        Why are you comparing Rosberg ‘at his best’ to a Schumi in his 40′s??? And yet in 2012 Schumi had plenty of times where he outqualified Rosberg by a mile shame his old body and mind couldn’t bring a race win before his retirement. Lets see what Hamilton and Rosberg are like in their 40′s. Schumacher in his prime (1995-2002) would have destroyed this field including Alonsoxand Vettel.

      23. Rohind says:

        @ Breton : Hamilton was a rookie when he challenged Alonso. Vettel was in his rookie years when he beat Webber. So saying Rosberg was a rookie is not a reasonable excuse

      24. Dan says:

        The Red Bull seems to have amazing grip in the corners. I thought Vettel was lucky with some of the overtakes because he came from so far back he was lucky people didn’t turn in on him.

      25. Gaz Boy says:

        Yes, that over-take on Kimi was marginal – but then he had to do it not to loose time.
        The Bull has arguably the most efficient, clean downforce of any chassis, but it is being hampered by a low of low speed from the Renault PU – so its upto the Parisians………..

      26. Gaz Boy says:

        PS I meant low speed torque – just watch when Daniel was stuck behind Bottas – that Merc powered Williams just left for the Bull for dead in the acceleration zones.

      27. Joe B says:

        Yeah, I thought that. The overtake on Raikkonen was superb though, perfect placement and braking point.

      28. MrF1 says:

        Are there any links to what gear ratios teams are running this year.
        We keep referencing the Renault being down on power (which is clear fact). But im curious to know if the set ratios for the season are a factor in this also….

      29. mbh says:

        What about kobayasi then? Is he even better than Vettel? ;)))
        I’d like to see Vettel overtaking a better car or even his teammate with the same car. He can watch today’s pass from Alonso to Kimi in three córners and learn something.

      30. Bob says:

        You mean the one where ALO tried for a couple laps with fresher tires… It’s just interesting how some just see what they want to see…

      31. mbh says:

        To Bob.
        Not so fresh tyres. Alonso said after the race that he was saving fuel until he could attack at the end. Anywise, he had to do it like in the past, without drs, with mediums, to the same car, to a former world champion and in Barcelona, where overtaking isn’t easy.
        Rosberg couldn’t do it, with the médium compound to a Hamilton suffering graining in the hard compound.

      32. Yago says:

        The pass Alonso did on Kimi was special. De la Rosa pointed out that, during those few laps Alonso was on Kimi’s tail before being able to complete the pass, he was delaying turn in at the enter of the corners to avoid graining, which could be a threat going so close to the driver in front. I could actually see him doing that during the entire race, the difference with Kimi on that front was clear to see as they were very close for two entire stints. Alonso also said he had still to save some fuel (you could see he had less left than Kimi and most of the drivers with 10 laps to go), and he decided to do it for two or three laps before pushing hard to overtake.

        Then the overtake is a master piece. Having prevented graining and saved the necessary fuel, he finally went for it. It was never going to be possible to overtake in the braking zone, as with cars with similar straight line speed is almost impossible in Barcelona (even with half a second or more advantage), plus Kimi was very good under acceleration at the exit of the last chicane (right since qualifying). The way Alonso prepared the move was something special, and a unique move in the race. No one could do something similar. It was classical Alonso, you could see him doing the difference there.

      33. Yago says:

        But having said that, Vettel is a superb driver and he showed it today. He did fantastic moves, and his pace in his penultimate stint (not saying the last stint, saying the one before) with softs was phenomenal.

      34. Tealeaf says:

        Mbh didn’t Vettel overtake Ricciardo at Malaysia? Or is your selective memory playing tricks on you? Also Alonso’s move on Raikkonen excellent? Alonso’s tyres were nearly 10 laps newer than Kimi’s, it wasn’t down to skill…

    2. Mocho_Pikuain says:

      My favourite one was the one he did to Felipe in turn six I think it was. But i would like to point that he overtook cars that were at least half a second per lap slower, and sometimes with fresher tyres. Its true that Red Bull had no top speed at the end of the main straight, but their traction, braking and aero are class of the field, making the second DRS zone and the previous corners the perfect spot for him to overtake.

      1. Tealeaf says:

        Traction are you sure? Have you seen Merc and Williams traction? Yhey’re far greater than Redbulls. Also aero? How comes Merc was quicker in every sector? especially on a aero circuit???

    3. Kidza says:

      Was that reputation built before or after DRS?

      Remember, even overtakes that to not take place in the DRS zone may still have been assisted/ made possible by DRS especially for a car with so much corner speed as the Redbull.

      Overtaking is no longer an art these days. Anyone with a faster car or better tyres can do it as Kobayashi proved in China, overtaking none other than Vettel.

      1. SteveS says:

        “Was that reputation built before or after DRS?”

        Depends on what you imagine his “reputation” was. Vettel started 17th and finished fourth in the 2007 Chinese GP. That’s pre-DRS, if you had forgotten. He started 15th and finished 4th in Brazil 2009, also pre-DRS. The “can’t overtake” stuff was always simply bizarre.

      2. Anil Parmar says:

        It was built on the accidents he kept getting into into in 09-10. Even in 2012 he got into more penalties/incidents than Alonso and Kimi combined.

      3. TGS says:

        There were two incidents with Webber and Button that may have contributed to this reputation. The Button one especially was very bizarre and amateurish. But he always gets the job done when needed, something that Webber couldn’t be counted on doing.

      4. Tealeaf says:

        Anil am I missing something? What accidents did Seb commit that was so bad in 2009? The only bad one was 2010 Spa against Button even Turkey was partly Webber’s fault. How many times did Hamilton cock up in 2011, 2012 and so many other times? Yet he’s the overtaking king yeah?

      5. KRB says:

        @Tealeaf, Vettel w/o mistakes could’ve won in 2009. He made far too many. I remember him going wheel-to-wheel with Kubica in AUS …chaos would be a good word for it. Vettel didn’t give Kubica any room, tried to wedge him out when he was already alongside.

        Vettel was at fault for Turkey 2010. He turned into Webber!!

    4. furstyferret says:

      Credit were credits due, driver of the day

    5. Goob says:

      DRS overtakes are not really overtakes in the traditional sense…

    6. Mhilgtx says:


      Too funny

    7. aveli says:

      more to come, just you wait!

    8. james encore says:

      I wondered (as Alonso mused out loud) with not much chance of a win whether Vettel would trundle round and take 9th or 10th, or if he would drag the car up near the sharp end. He made some decent moves (and lacking straight line speed he couldn’t DRS past into turn one). He was miles behind the winner, and off the podium but he drove better today than in most of his victories.

    9. Ed Bone says:

      I am a Hamilton fan, but I was dlighted to see Vettel drive such a good race, its good for the whole sport in my opinion.

      A very classy performance by Vettel, especially considering the really tough start he has had to his season.

      Looking forward to more great races up and down the field.

  10. kabeer says:

    what a boring race!

    1. Nick says:

      Yeah it was rubbish.

    2. HP says:

      it kind of was until last 10 laps.

    3. M Gray says:

      I have to agree…I think the differences are that in previous years we had a quick Red Bull in the corners, but the other teams could catch up to a degree on the straights with a more powerful engine, also Webber’s struggles meant that there was more of an uncertainty with both second and third. Now with the gap to the Mercs so big, DRS and KERS are of no benefit for closing the gap. Hopefully with the next race at Monaco, the racing will be closer and more exciting with less tyre grip and the limited top speed. As a side note, I find no benefit in the graphic showing fuel consumption – if you use less fuel, you’re still carrying it in the tank, and if your using more, then you’ll be pacing yourself to make the finish – the same as previous years…

    4. super seven says:

      I presume you’re being sarcastic?

      I was standing in front of the screen at the end, convinced that Nico was going to get Lewis before the line, and prior to that wondering whether Kimi was going to hold off Fernando.

      The new tyres from his three stop strategy gave Fernando just to much of an edge at the end, but it’s pleasing to see Kimi finally starting to get a handle on the Ferrari. Credit to Fernando and his side of the garage for making the tactical shift mid race.

      Let’s face it. Lewis and Nico are a lot closer than Seb and Mark, and they are being allowed to race. The result is a real race for the championship, even though the Mercedes has a massive lead over the competition.

      I hope the final result is decided by driver skill, and not by just who is lucky enough to have less DNFs.

      If I was a conspiracy theorist, which I’m not, I’d be seeing a pro German bias in the slow Lewis pit stops to give Nico a chance of the win.

      1. iGOR BdA says:

        You think a race is good just because your favorite driver is having it handled to him by a far superior machinery? I’m sorry, but this season so far is unbelievable boring. I’ve been watching F1 since 1986 and I’ve never been so bored by so many races in succession before… This time F1 is really agonizing.

      2. Jonathan says:

        were you watching the same race? I watched more of that race than I have in about 3 years. Lewis didn’t win because he was in the fastest car. Indeed from Nico’s first stop on it was never certain that Lewis would win.

        It really intrigues me that Lewis uses less fuel…

      3. Gazza says:

        Its always good when your favourite driver is winning.

        The sour grapes by the Vettel fans on here is the only thing that is boring.

        I mean what about Bahrain? The best wheel to wheel action for many years.

        Todays race was not decided until the last lap, I really don’t know what your on about.!!

      4. james encore says:

        I thought at the start this was just going to be a Mercedes demo run with Hamilton out of Rosberg’s sight. Merc’s split strategy brought the excitement of whether Soft-hard-soft give ROS enough speed at the end overhaul the advantage HAM built going soft-soft-hard ? We didn’t know until the last part of the last lap.

        I’d rather watch Hamilton win like today or Bahrain than China or Malaysia.

        Plus we had We had a race between the Ferraris. and Vettel clawing his way up the field and hunting Bottas down with newer tyres thanks to doing the extra stop.

      5. super seven says:

        The race wasn’t decided until the final lap. One more lap and I don’t think Lewis would have held him off.
        Granted, it was only close because Mercedes dawdled through both of Lewis’ pit stops while delivering rapid fire stops to Rosberg, but the result was close because of it.

        The battle between the Ferraris was only decided with a couple of laps to go. Arguably, Ferrari spoiled an even closer battle by screwing Kimi on strategy,but that was another close battle that took almost the whole race to work itself out.

        Seb was working his way through the slower cars throughout the race. Only Daniel Ricciardo’s finish position looked like a forgone conclusion once he dispatched with Valtteri.

        This year is proving to be much more entertaining than the recent boring years of Vettel uber dominance.

      6. MrF1 says:

        I was happy with the race. If your bored try involving your self more in the strategy etc. Download a timing App. Wheel to wheel action is down compared to an era of F1 that you are perhaps more familiar with, but the action is on and off track these days.
        My 2c

      7. Andrew M says:

        The pit stop crew were certainly trying to make it a close race today, they cost Hamilton 1 second at the first stop and around 1.5-2 seconds at the second I think (I don’t think they showed Nico’s stationary time). They basically wiped out Hamilton’s undercut advantage while still giving Nico the benefit of newer tyres.

      8. SaScha says:

        I had the same feeling. Some are already boreed with Mercs superiority. So they try to keep the WDC as long as possible open.

      9. super seven says:

        Yeah, the pit crew didn’t help Lewis today. Did he forget to bring in donuts for them or something? :-D

      10. AlexD says:

        It was an ultra boring race. Last 3 laps were more or less worth following as it was not 100000% sure whether Rosberg will make it work for him, but we all know…sometimes he is a lot faster and had many laps ahead, yet he fails to overtake. We have seen it this year. It was a matter of Hamilton not making a mistake. But other than that….boring. No safety car, no rain….nothing

      11. TimW says:

        its always like that in Barcelona.

      12. All revved-up says:

        There are F1 fans who enjoy F1 and watching it. There are also fans who keep watching but moan and groan . . . boring, predictable, bore fest etc

        Those of us out to have a good time and enjoy life tend to steer clear of the moaners and groaners.

        The only time we enjoy listening to the moaning is between the sheets.

    5. Thompson says:

      It’s the track.

      I race it regularly in Forza 4 it’s really hard – not very flowing, can see why so many struggle with the lower downforce.

      The acceleration of the Mercs out of the long bends must be really ssomething.

      1. Gaz Boy says:

        It’s a pity that the last 2 daunting corners at Barcelona have been nullified by that silly chicane…….

      2. rad_g says:

        “I race it regularly in Forza 4″, sounds like “I’ve done 1000s of laps on playstation before going to the real Nordschleife”.

    6. Hansb says:

      Except for the last 10 laps which were OK.
      But too late, my mom (76 !), she watches every single race, had already fallen asleep….

  11. Rich B says:

    ron Dennis’s comment ‘we will win a race this year’ just got kicked into touch :-)

    1. Phil Glass says:

      Warning to Magnussen:

      Ron Dennis is likely to fall out of love very quickly with you, Kev, unless you quits that stupid tyre slicing trick.
      Ron does not demand that you be a brain surgeon, just that you have a couple of apples in the picnic box, no more.

    2. Goob says:

      Not a chance, until the eliminate Jenson Button.

      Getting rid of Whitmarsh was only half the cure…

      Jenson is a living disaster for any F1 team… he has driven McLaren into oblivion.

      1. Warren G says:

        And yet none of Hamilton’s replacements has actually beaten him yet or even looked convincing. I think the problem might just be car related, in that they’ve somehow produced stinkers the last two years that only two drivers on the grid might get a result from now and then.

      2. Robert says:

        And, as has been proven this year, Perez really CAN drive. But he couldn’t regularly drive that 2013 disaster of a McLaren faster or to more effect than JB.

        McLaren is hurting – there are several proven, faster drivers in single lap speed than Jenson on the grid…but which of them in their right mind would come to a team that has tons of resources but has produced two clangers of cars in the past two years. Alonso leave Ferrari? Vettel leave RB? Lewis come back? HAH!

        Unless McLaren can put their design house in order with better engineering and aero, JB is the best McLaren are going to get as an experienced driver, and is popular, promotable, and sponsor-friendly as well.

      3. AuraF1 says:

        And yet Jenson has beaten the young ‘new Lewis’ Kevin so far. And I notice McLaren weren’t world champions in 2009 before Jenson even showed up. Shouldn’t Lewis have dragged the team to total victory with just his sheer skill? But no obviously it’s Jenson bringing the entire MTC down with his awful driving…

      4. Goob says:

        Correct… Button’s feedback is misdirecting the engineers at McLaren… it is a case of the blind leading the seeing…

        Button operates like a snake, and destroys great engineers and fellow great drivers for his own advantage… he takes advantage of weak leaders like Whitmarsh to further his own cause at the expense of the better member of his team.

        He is constricting McLaren to death… just like a snake…

      5. AuraF1 says:

        Wow. Crack is good stuff.

    3. AndyFov says:

      That follows a long tradition of overly ambitious McLaren quotes. Who could forget DC’s prophecising that he was going to win the title year after year after year?

      Jenson Button even heralded last year’s McLaren at launch as their “best ever.”

      It’s a shame though to see McLaren at the blunter end of the grid. I hope Honda are cobbling together something special for next year.

      1. Andrew M says:

        I’m sure Honda are ripping off as much Mercedes IP as they can as we speak.

      2. Gaz Boy says:

        The issue of IP with Honda and the current Merc powered Macca has to be the grey-est of areas since a cloudy thunderstorm hovered into view at Silverstone last year!
        Seriously, what is stopping the Tokyo brigade from “discovering” little “secrets” of the Brixworth V6??????

    4. Michael says:

      Boy, talk about an ill advised comment from Dennis. Mclaren doesn’t have a snowballs chance in hell of winning a race this year. They are way off the pace!

    5. Gaz Boy says:

      It’s a long, long season, but yes, that comment does seem incredibly over-optimistic.
      Unlike the Bulls, Macca cannot complain of a lack of torque and drive-ability from their power-units. They have, seemingly yet again, completely confused themselves on the aerodynamic package.
      Perhaps the bog slow tight twiddly track at Monaco maybe more to the Macca’s liking………even if it is I just can’t see McLaren getting into the Top 4 in qualifying…….

      1. AuraF1 says:

        McLarens design team seemed to have boxed themselves in again. They probably have a brilliant car in about the narrowest temperature operating window of all time.

        Ron needs to keep out of it and stop coming to races. He has a brilliant place as a business leader but I think he just makes everyone panic these days. Leave it to Eric. He seems pretty unflappable.

        Though I expect McLaren are already putting more than 50% of their resources into next years Honda based designs. I can’t imagine there’s much quality discussion with Mercedes at the moment…

      2. Robert says:

        Totally agree with your comments about Ron. Remember however, that Ron went to the McLaren Board of Directors and basically killed Martin Whitmarsh with a spear in cold blood. Now Ron HAS to justify that killing to the Board, above all else.

        So all he can do is try to look commanding, and forceful, and thump his chest. The car sucks, once again, and despite my expectations that 2013 was all about tuning their CFD for high-chassis designs, they seem to be almost as adrift as they were last year. Very, very frustrating – and believe me, I am NOT saying I can do any better – I have hands-on with simulations, and know they can be tricky. But regardless of the reasons, Ron HAS to say – no, scream actually – that everything will be fan-freakin’-tastic…otherwise he can’t hide Martin’s body.

        But Eric is cool as a cucumber, and as you say he is perfectly suited for this situation. Martin was pretty cool too, but he was so slick about it that few believed him. Eric reminds me of Bill Clinton – you know he is smart and probably can bend the truth, but he also has that dopey, hang-dog, aw-shucks look about him that makes you want to believe him and what he says. You need a certain kind of face for that, one that I don’t have – jowls help. I think my income would double if I could achieve it…

      3. AuraF1 says:

        Yes, I absolutely agree. I have quite a few family and friends who work for McLaren (or used to) and they are generally considered either the best at what they do, or equal to. There are first rate designs on the McLaren – they have some brilliant approaches – but as others have said, there is a very lumbering, bureaucratic management style and no real ‘oversight’.

        McLaren are basically Microsoft, once they were leaders, innovators and latched onto the latest and greatest but they’ve become (admittedly often in Ron’s image) a slow behemoth. Honestly go to the MTC – it’s basically NASA. It’s almost embarrassing how much more large scale it is compared to Mercedes or Red Bull’s set ups. Like the people I know inside have said – they don’t lack the tools to do the job. It’s the structure that can’t react.

        This is why I agree Eric is perfect for it. He is the perfect fit oddly enough. He has this remarkable ability to be personable and friendly but when there is something he doesn’t want to answer he closes off and is basically a brick wall. That’s a sort of discipline that McLaren needs.

        Having a big shouty beast demanding change and improvement doesn’t often work. Many people will know that formerly-Sir Goodwin ran RBS bank into the ground, despite his ‘morning beatings’ and browbeating his directors into following any madcap scheme he had. Ron has vision – but I think at this stage in the company’s life, he doesn’t instill much other than fear and panic in the racing team. He may have made the smartest move hiring Eric who he should probably now back off and leave to sort it out. Ron can use his power and personal ferocity to mount raids on the job market – but putting his nineteen layers of micro-management on top of every decision in the team is going to suffocate any chance of recovery.

    6. All revved-up says:

      Is it possible that Mercedes are deliberately supplying McLaren with a B spec engine so as to minimize data loss to Honda?

      I read that McLaren has to return the engines to Mercedes after each race; it’s probably the only team hamstrung by this constrain.

  12. Jean-luc says:

    Hamilton, despite being less comfortable with his car than Rosberg was, still managed to win the race. So James, do you think that will have a particular psychological effect on Nico?

    1. James Allen says:

      I suspect that’s what he’s trying to do, but he’s also right. It did look more of a struggle to drive.

      Monaco will be all about qualifying and then possible undercuts in the race.

      Montreal Hamilton will win by a margin, as he’s always been untouchable there

      1. GarryT says:

        Your right but a big call, Canada always throws a surprise with weather.

      2. Michey says:

        I agree, James. And the same goes for Hungary, Abu Dahbi and Spa. They might as well all name corners after him.

      3. Gaz Boy says:

        I may be provoking a reaction here, but I’d say Kimi is the Spa specialist……….

      4. furniture says:

        Agree with JA here. Monaco is 50-50 as to who’ll win, and it’s a bit of a procession every year, but the thought of Hamilton let loose at CGV in this year’s Merc is truly something every F1 fan should be looking forward to…

      5. Damon says:

        Well going on last years race Rosberg is the one to watch out for, should be close.

      6. Gaz Boy says:

        James, Lewis is mighty around Montreal, but don’t forget Canada 2011 when Lewis and Jenson had a nice chat that ended up with Lewis’s Macca headbutting the pit-wall!

      7. Joost says:

        Yeah you are right.

        Hamilton has a record for hitting pit-wall’s during Canadian GP’s. :-)

        Dude, what are you trying to say with this comment?

      8. Andrew M says:

        Or 2008, Lewis is fast at Montreal but he does have rather a “feast or famine” record there.

      9. Richard says:

        I suspect with an equally good set up and balance he would have won by a significantly bigger margin than he did in Spain. – With a slower car he put it on pole and still managed to win a race Rosberg should have won. – That’s the truth of it!

      10. Damon says:

        Well that’s part of Hamiltons’s job, to make sure he’s happy with the car and improve it over the weekend.

        How can he possibly put a slower car on pole?? Fact is Rosberg was slightly quicker during the race.

      11. Richard says:

        Well if you had listened properly to what was going on over the weekend you would know that Hamilton’s cars set up was not great for the changed conditions, and he had to counter it to a degree with the cars internal adjustments during the race. Actually it is Hamilton’s job to give his engineering team feedback on the feel of the car, but they tweaked it again in the wrong direction and made it worse for qualifying. Hamilton put his car on pole using superior driving skill and fresh tyres, but what you do over one lap cannot be continued for a race distance indeed only a few laps. Rosberg was quicker in the race because his car was set up better for the prevailing conditions, and still could not get the job done. Had the cars been equally set up then their would have been much greater margin to Hamilton’s win, but his superior speed was reigned in. – I hope you have learned something!

      12. kingszito says:

        @Damon, if you didn’t believe that Hamilton put a slower car on pole (when compared to Rosberg), then how could you conclude that Rosberg was slightly quicker during the race? Base on your logic whomever finishes ahead is quicker isn’t it?

        Watch the onboard video of Lewis and Nico during the quali to see that Lewis was struggling more than Rosberg throughout qualifiers. Rosberg had a more stable car (set up) than Lewis, yet Lewis beat him for the pole position. Fact!

      13. JCA says:

        James, do you think if one or both Red Bulls out qualify the Mercs, that they can/will use Merc’s strategy from last year of bunching the pack to negate the undercut?

      14. James Allen says:

        We are some way off that!!

        It was 1 sec back to RBR in quali

      15. Dave C says:

        If both Redbulls outqualifies Merc at Monaco then its one race they have to give up on, no undercut will work as you say Redbull will just bunch up the pack but it won’t happen Merc has too much of a traction advantage to be behind RBR in quali expect another 1-2 at best Ricciardo will hold back Rosberg and get in between the Mercs and allow Hamilton to extend his gap.

      16. Damon says:

        What’s worrying for Hamilton is that in Bahrain and Spain he looked untouchable on Friday but went backwards relative to Nico over the weekend and the race.

        I don’t buy all this “Rosberg will be mentally destroyed crap” the last thing on a drivers mind when putting on the helmet is the last Grand Prix.

        The performance is so close between these two it’s far from guaranteed Hamilton will win in Montreal or anywhere for that matter.

      17. Yago says:

        Agree. But Hamilton has that killer instance Rosberg lacks in my opinion.

      18. kingszito says:

        Nothing is guaranteed in any sport, however every driver has his strengths and weaknesses. It’s not coincidence that particular drivers thrive in certain circuit more than others. Montreal is one of those circuit Hamilton performance better than any other current driver, but that does not mean a win is guaranteed.

      19. Robert says:

        @Yago – Rosberg is German. He is too efficient to show his instincts… ;-)

      20. Jack Dell says:

        Why dont I see a single comment anywhere questioning why Nico thought it was appropriate to have his right foot on the second place podium and his left foot on the first place podium during the National Anthem for Luis Hamiltons victory in Spain?

      21. Jack Dell says:

        Apologies for the Lewis name miss type blame good old predictive text!

      22. Michey says:

        Jack, I suspect it’s more Nico being uncomfortable up there, having to constantly lose to Lewis. His body language is very telling.

      23. HulkenBerg says:

        Why don’t I see a single comment about how Lewis down rightly snobbed Nico. Almost no acknowledgement of Nico after quali, after the race and on the podium. Lewis spoke more to Dan after the race.

        Also, there was a champagne shower for Dan, the Merc engineer and lots for the grid girls, but not a drop for Nico – even though Nico emptied his bottle over Lewis.

        On the flip side, Nico did not invite Lewis to his wedding and his favourite neighbour in Monte Carlo is Eddie Jordan (and not Hamilton).

        Their relationship is turning into ice!

        James is it mind games are are they really starting to dislike each other?

      24. KRB says:

        I just watched it again, and that never happened. He only put his foot on the top step as they were getting ready to take the group photo. Nothing to see here, move along!

      25. aveli says:

        how about hungary and monza?

      26. Glennb says:

        I dont know about untouchable James. Jenson touched him up pretty good in 2011 :)

    2. Michael says:

      @ Jean-luc If Rosberg doesn’t win in Monico that’s when the psychological effect will kick in.

    3. HP says:

      Hamliton is sandbagging, its quite obvious.
      In FP3 he didn’t finish his qualy-style lap and came in after posting fastest times in sector 1 and 2 so Rosberg can’t fully study his lap.
      And I think he did pretty much the same thing in qualifying sessions. i.e. his radio message ‘you guys have made the car slower’ or something along those line. All mind games!

    4. furstyferret says:

      Its not looking good for rosberg, take away the oz gp, in 2 of the four races when lewis has the right setup, he destroys rosberg, flip the coin and he still beats a faster rosberg, barring dnfs, its lewis wdc

      1. Richard says:

        Absolutely spot on! If Rosberg is to stand any chance he needs to re-group and start puting his car on pole. – If he can!

    5. super seven says:

      Lewis is going to have to have a quiet word with hits team regarding pit stop performance, though. They cost him time versus Nico on both stops, without which Lewis would have had a much more comfortable run to the flag.

      There also seemed to be a lot of confusion over wing adjustments going into his second stop.

      Thrilling finish though, and great to see Kimi finally starting to get the Ferrari tuned in a way that allows him to drive it. The car still looks tail happy, but at least it has a bit more braking stability now. Perhaps the Ferrari intra team battle can now be joined in earnest.

      1. wellerfan says:

        You must be joking. Can you really see kimi being allowed to beat alonso after today’s appalling fiasco of allowing alonso to call the strategy when kimi has been fastest all weekend

      2. Anil Parmar says:

        He was allowed to stay ahead of Alonso for the whole race despite holding Alonso up in the first stint.

      3. super seven says:

        Yeah, I thought the strategy call was a little strange, and apparently Kimi voiced his disappointments regarding the matter on the cool down lap.

        It seems that Ferrari have problem fairly calling strategy for two top drivers. They let Kimi down that time.

      4. KRB says:

        Better a slower pit stop, than not getting the wheels put on correctly! I think the penalty is too high for that though, or at least it should be a team penalty shared by both drivers (5 place grid drop each? Would be better).

      5. super seven says:

        True enough, but if the team are electing for slow and safe stops, the stops should be equally slow and safe for both drivers.

    6. Kirsty says:

      And historically Hamilton kinda sucks in Barcelona, yet Nico couldn’t not get a upper hand this weekend. But I don’t think it’ll affect Nico, he always takes comfort from the fact he’s “faster” in the race.

      1. Richard says:

        But only by virtue of set up!

      2. Michael Givens says:

        I am confuse with this Nico is faster in the race yet he can’t win these races. He was not faster when they were both on the same set of tyres in the first stint. Hamilton has Nico where he wants him that I believe.

  13. Mike Martin says:

    Woohoooo!!!!! Go Lewis!! Not bad for a deluded lead foot who is to stupid for F1.

    And to Brittney(Nico R)..oh baby baby, what would I suppose to do…..I just keep on falling…..

    Yes!! Lewis world class legend!

    1. furniture says:

      Raw Talent 4 (in a row)
      Raw Brain 1 (but only after the raw talent DNF’ed)

    2. Taz says:

      1.5 seconds a lap advantage over all but his team mate. The years championship is a bust…pointless.

      1. Tealeaf says:

        It sure is, never seen such dominance from a car since 1988 when I was too young to understand. I can’t see how Renault can gain 70-100hp on Mercedes and also can’t see how Ferrari can improve their chassis by about 1sec and improve their PU by 50hp as well, season is over the fastest car wins.

      2. H.Guderian (ALO fan) says:

        “never seen such dominance from a car since 1988″


        So you didn’t see the four previous season where a highly overated driver with a Neweys rocket ship won race after race, huh???

      3. Tealeaf says:

        Are you seriously saying RBR had 1.5-2.5sec advantage in quali and race in the past few years? How many 1-2′s has Redbull had in those years again? Considering Webber is/was a faster driver than Rosberg your claim is naive to be polite and retarded if I’m honest.

      4. JF says:

        True- RedBull never had this much advantage despite what others may think. If they did Webber would have been more consistently second the past few years, which was not the case. This year a Merc WDC is guarenteed– Any driver on the grid would be capable. Lewis will destroy the field but Merc would have it with out him.

      5. Richard says:

        It actually doesn’t matter too greatly what Red Bull’s advantage was. Usually their advantage grew as development race started to bite, but any advantage is enough to win, and Vettel sure grabbed it with both hands. It’s very clear now that the Red Bull is the second best car overall and I daresay in terms of aero is actually the best. They may catch Mercedes towards the end, but both championships will have long gone by then.

      6. Mike Martin says:

        @ Tealeaf We are still in for a large amount of Red Bullying. Red Bull is a very devious team.Stay tuned!
        Ferrari have always found ways to bend or change things to help them(positive or negative).

      7. H.Guderian (ALO fan) says:


        Don’t get angry, Tea. Don’t get angry.
        As I always told you, you now realize that you idol is a FARCE.

        BUT, yes, Vettel’s (not RBR’s car) car had more than a 1.5s advantage over the others.

        They clearly didn’t have 1-2 (except 2010, when Web fought toe-to-toe til the last race against Vettel – after that he has trashed by Marco and was not able to put a solid performance anymore – weird, hum???) because, as Minardi said, RBR cars were different and Weber was sabotaged by the team (Multi21 and the likes).

        So, you are correct. There’s one retarded here, but not me.

        My advise. Go watch MotoGP instead and keep hidden as you did for several races.

        GO RIC, GO!!!


      8. Alex says:

        Generally people on this site are true F1 fans and know their facts, I.e. Don’t put out rubbish statements.
        Red Bull never enjoyed a 1.5-2 sec advantage, I would love you to prove me wrong. Races and year please??

        I would bet that half of the current grid would be capable of winning this years championship in the 2014 Merc.

      9. Robert says:

        Sure there was – the 2009 Brawn had almost the same advantage at the very start of the year, didn’t it?

        They just couldn’t keep developing the car (hard when you have laid off a third of your staff!), and their innovation was too easy to copy.

        So basically it is Brawn 2009, even with many of the same people – but with a MUCH, MUCH larger budget. And an innovation that cannot be copied this year, by anyone…

      10. H.Guderian (ALO fan) says:


        Malasia (I guess), 2013.

        Vettel was in 1st place, than came a safety car. When the safety car was out, Vettel opened a FOUR SECONDS gap in TWO LAPS.

        What you guys did not realize is that Vettel never had to push really hard. Web never (despite 2010) fought against him with his numerous problems (none for Vet) and bad starts (none for Vet). He just needed to open a 20s gap and manage the race. Now, with Merc, is a different story. Ham and Ros are allowed to race. There’s no number one. So, both drivers have to push to the limit and we see what happen last race. Kimi/Ferrari being lapped. You clearly see that the Mercs have a 1.5s advantage. The same Vettel had.

      11. Zesssmo says:

        Singapore 2013.
        Christian Horner, Red Bull team principal
        “It was a really bittersweet result today. It was a phenomenal performance by Sebastian. It was one of his strongest ever drives, particularly after the safety car came out halfway through the race. It wasn’t the best moment for us and after that, Seb needed to pull out a gap of 27 seconds. He pulled out 30 seconds in 15 laps, at times lapping over two seconds quicker than the rest of the field; it was incredible to watch and it was a thoroughly deserved and really dominant victory today. “

      12. Matthew says:

        Don’t worry! All Rosberg has to do is win the last race to pip Hamilton to the title!

      13. Richard says:

        Indeed he might!

      14. Joost says:

        Rosberg is allowed to:

        * Win Monaco AND
        * Win the last double points race AND
        * Another 2 DNF’s for Hamilton

        And Hamilton will still be on top if the season continues to evolve the way it does at the moment.

        So dream on. :-)

        Realistically I think Rosberg has a significant chance in Monaco. After that, it will be Hamilton all over. The only reall threat Hamilton has are DNF’s. 4 in total is the absolute maximum in case Rosberg hasn’t any.

  14. Gaz Boy says:

    A 29 year old British driver in the prime of his life and career……….sounds familiar! Well done Lewis, yet again you beat your team-mate……..that’s five boxing rounds, four victories……..as this rate Nico Ros will be on the floor by Silverstone…….
    Is this the start of the Red Bull and Sebastian fight-back? Great comeback drive, and considering that Bull is down on torque and straight line speed, Mr Vettel was lapping supremely fast, irrespective of the new tyres at the end. Would he have beaten the Mercs had he started from the second row? No – but it’s encouraging process netherless considering back in January Red Bull and Renault were 3 odd months behind their competitors. Or perhaps I’m clutching at straws……….
    I think kudos to the boy Bottas – qualified fourth, held off a superior downforce heavy Red Bull for the first stint and finished a strong fifth. Totally blew Felipe away; is Mr B a Mika in waiting? (I.e potential WDC?)
    Ferrari – stay way Luca, every time you appear, Ferrari are badly off the pace………….again.
    Daniel excellent and consistent as always, and this time he should be able to keep his podium!
    Also, good to see the Romain empire back – qualified fifth, finished eighth, he maximised his driving throughout the weekend, possibly putting the car above its potential? Good to see Lotus back scoring points.
    Macca – oh dear…………Eric Bouillier, out of the Lotus frying pan into the McLaren fire????

    1. Gaz Boy says:

      PS This one is for Random 79: I bet Jonsey talking about the lack of torque from the Renault units (compared to Merc) is a bit like that episode of the Simpsons where Homer asks Moe the Bartender can he borrow money to cover a monthly mortgage. (Episode No Loan Actually)

      Moe: “OK Homer, you can borrow money, but first I’m going to have break your legs in advance as collateral.”

      Jonsey: “If Renault don’t find any more torque for Daniel from their engine I’m going to go over to Paris and break their legs in advance as a warning.”

      1. Gaz Boy says:

        Sorry error, it was the Simpsons Homer vs Patty and Selma.
        Likewise, it is the Renault engineers vs Jonsey fists if they don’t find some improvements fast.

      2. kenneth chapman says:

        @ anil parmer, …i still haven’t seen him fight a rival etc etc etc’ didn’t you watch bahrein? he fought his greatest rival during the last 10 laps and was comprehensively outdriven!

      3. Random 79 says:

        I don’t think anyone threatening to break Renault’s legs is going to help them improve much at this late date ;)

    2. Yago says:

      Romain did very good as yesterday. I think he had big problems with the electric engine, because his form dipped badly. That car has the potential to fight the Ferraris over the year.

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  15. JB says:

    The two mercedes are on the class of their own! They manage to lapped a Ferrari! OMG…

    Personally, I don’t get why Hamilton needed to be so paranoid. I don’t like the overhyped and underperformed duel between the two mercs.

    my Favourite though is Vettel’s comeback! He came from 15th and finished 4th. He is back. I think his previous chassis really messed his 4 races. Remember, Vettel didn’t even had a chance to prepare properly this weekend since he lost all the Friday practice. Now I think the comparison between Dan and Seb is a fair one.

    DOTD = Sebastian Vettel

    1. Richard says:

      The Red Bull is the second best package overall, but probably the best car aerodynamically, and now all they need is to improve the PU.

      1. Glennb says:

        Sounds easy ;)

  16. Matthew says:

    Really impressed with Grosjean’s drive today, what a result in a fairly bad car. It really shows just how much he has improved and matured as a driver since his early days. Much less impressed by Maldonado using his car as a battering ram. Again.

    Incidentally, apparently Maldonado translates to “badly gifted”. Is anyone really surprised by that?

    1. Dr T says:

      I’m just wondering which team is going to be in need of the extra 30 million pounds next year.

      I reckon the odds of Pastor being the first to knock up 12 points on his super license is pretty good (he’s up to 4 now) – is anyone ahead?

      Grosjean matured and learnt to stop driving into moving objects (and stationary ones too) – MAL is into his 4th season in F1 and is still running into other cars with annoying regularity

    2. ferggsa says:

      Agree, Romain has done as most rookies do: drive like a mad man, stop, learn and avoid crashes
      Maldonado’s problem is that he always has an excuse: GUT moved into the corner, tyre pressure was wrong, ERI cut me off, and thus he never learns

  17. Torchwood Five says:

    I was very worried right till the end on this one, would the slower Lewis pit stops noticed by the Sky commentators, and the apparent mis-reads on requested wing adjustments, be enough for Rosberg to catch and pass him?

    And elsewhere, what was up with the flags? There was a black flag waved in front of Bottas as he emerged from a tyre stop on Lap 21. What the heck was up with that? I suppose it could have been a silhouette…

    Saw a couple of purple flags waved elsewhere; no idea what they were about.

    Very well done for Vettel, 15th to 4th. Should silence ALL “cannot overtake” critics.

    Well done for Lewis, Rosberg, Ricciardo (counting the following five hours to see if he can keep THIS trophy), nice job those girls on the podium, not running from the champagne, Grosjean for getting points, Bottas – best result of career.

    Ted Kravitz, please don’t say “Massa has stopped” if in fact, he is still in the race. Thanks.

  18. Andrew M says:

    Pretty good race, Rosberg is doing enough to keep the season interesting and then some.

    Vettel just seemed to come alive about half way, similar to Webber in China that time. He did have a pretty healthy stack of unused tyres to burn through though.

    What on earth are McLaren playing at? They seem to be losing ground to all around them, they’re at risk of falling into the Williams trap…

    1. GWD says:

      Yes, and while it was good drive by SV, it isn’t quite DOTD – Better sets of rubber with a much more agressive 3 stop strat. Very MW 18->3 @ China a few years ago. Except SV wasn’t about to plough down on 3rd anytime soon after clearing VB. I’m sure DR could have been closer to the Mercs if he had maintained the rage as it were, but most likely settled into a preserving rhythm. DR’s middle stint on the options was pretty good also as far as longevity in those tyres were concerned. The SV Gearbox change – was this with a specific setup to allow the use of such stratgey efficiently? SV seemed to have very good closing speed in those corners. He also did a few divebomb ‘it’s now your responsibility not to cause an accident’ passes at those corners which fortunately he didn’t lose it into the opposing competitor. He did lock up once (from the TV coverage) but appeared to modulate/get out out of the lock up reasonably well.

  19. bking says:

    Bahrain without the tussles. Congrats Lewis. Nico again with the faster options fail to maximise.

    Maybe Nico should get pointers from his favourite neighbour.

  20. Michey says:

    Lewis lapping up to P7…including a Ferrari. Montezemolo must be slitting his wrists about now.

    Awesome race for Lewis despite losing his Friday setup and having two very slow pitstops (compare to Nico). Not sure how many more of those kind of nail biting races I can handle this season though.

  21. fox says:

    What a miserable machinery Ferrari is.
    What a miserable machinery McLaren is.
    What a miserable driver Massa is.
    What a secondary driver Rosberg is.
    What a poor noise is.
    What a good silly season is going to open.

  22. zombie says:

    Who would’ve thought Nico Rosberg would be giving Hamilton such a hard time ? Goes to show what a 43 yr old Schumi was up against a Rosberg half his age. Rosberg is no slouch, and his performance against Schumi was not a fluke. He just needs to stay patient, not get into psychological warp, and keep chipping at Hamilton’s armor until it cracks.

    Fantastic race by Bottas and Vettel. If Bottas continue this way, i think it will be curtains for Massa’s career by 2015.

    1. J.Storm says:

      If I may break the bubble, Hamilton was on a circuit he doesn’t like very much – he didn’t have the best results here in the previous years, seemed to not have the best set-up for his car and had slower pit stops.
      Rosberg, I guess, knows all this and will be hard pressed to deliver in Monaco, on “home” turf. It will very interesting to see the way this will unfold.

      1. Tealeaf says:

        Excuses are its not Hamilton’s circuit at Spain but nor is it Rosberg’s, out qualified heavily by a 43yr old in 2012 and also by a substandard Nakajima if I recall in 2009, yet he was closer to Hamilton than either of those 2.

    2. Mike Martin says:

      I am sorry to tell you this but praising Rosberg that he has defeated a 43 old Schumacher who was out of active F1 racing for over 3 years does help Nico’s case at all.

      Why don’t you go to wiki and post Nico Rosbers F1 numbers here? Try to impress us with this short list and yourself even more.

      Nico was only able to make things interesting due to bad pit stops.

      1. Mike Martin says:

        * does NOT help Nico’s case at all.

  23. Michael says:

    Good drive by Hamilton. I wasn’t sure if he was going to hold off Rosberg. It was very tense all the way to the flag after the last pit stop. All everybody need to know is the gap from 1st to 3rd was 49 seconds. This season is practically over.

  24. Kevin Green says:

    Well today further clarified what i have said about vettel since he even won his 1st title as a driver he is a midway of the grid quality at absolute best and the clear improvement of the redbull over the rest of the field but Mercedes and of course Ricardo’s form (who prob genuinely is a top 6 driver) further confirms it At least with the Mercedes dominance it looks like the drivers are very evenly matched so there is likely to be front end thrills throughout the season. Mclaren need and will have Alonso back next season if Ferrari are not right on the Mercedes pace come the seasons end Absolutely no doubt at Jensons expense As for magnusson if theres no clear on going improvement with him i can see Romain alongside.

    1. Ahmed Sydney says:

      @Kevin Green.
      Your theory states Vettel as “middle of the pack” driver, with Hamilton & Rosberg evenly matched?
      You left the fact out about Webber destroying Rosberg when he was his team mate in quali and races…

      Some fans are either new to the sport or just plain deluded…

      1. Kevin Green says:

        Lol your talking yrs ago when Rosberg was a rookie were somewhat 6-7yrs on now! And hes like i said Hamilton/Rosberg very evenly matched keep watching! And by the way I am very far from being a Hamilton fan but am alert enough to realise hes defo within the top 5 of current drivers on the grid! Deluded?? i was into F1 long before i ever met your mum son.

      2. Tealeaf says:

        So even after a DOTD performance Seb is midfield class yeah? Dream on.

      3. TimW says:

        Tealeaf, I assume you were equally as impressed with Hamiltons drive at the same track in 2012?

      4. TimW says:

        Webber outqualified Rosberg 11,4. Hardly destroying him. Rosbergs rookie season dont forget.

      5. TimW says:

        Sorry should read, Webber outqualified Rosberg 7,4

    2. Rockie says:

      The merc drivers being evenly matched reflects poorly on Hamilton if you don’t realise that.
      As Rosberg has never been in a title fight yet Hamilton is almost losing his marbles, when Rosberg beats him fair and square in one race he would unravel quickly!
      Atleast in Vettel’s race he could control the race.

      1. Kevin Green says:

        I aint a Hamilton fan in any way or form other than not being surrounded in a metal smokescreen detracting from the truth that he genuinely is a good driver and far superior to most the current F1 line up all be it he aint no Alonso Stewart Clark or Senna and certainly never will be!

      2. Ahmed Sydney says:

        @Kevin Green.
        I actually would put Alonso, Vettel & Hamilton as top 3, each with their own strengths. Your entitles to your own opinion, however I’m sure that most knowledgeable fans would agree with my statement over your weak argument.
        Just ask your two Papa’s…

  25. Pkara says:

    Few blips regarding over steer but a calm cool Lewis
    does it again. Captain of his ship. Bravo Lewis.
    Well done Daniel & have to say good drive from the Singing Kettle Vettel.
    Well done Bottas . Kimi & Alonso. Perez plaing waiting game & then taking the Hulk.
    Maldonado must be on his way out whatever his sponsors are giving. Lotus still owe for engines so he must not be bringing much to the table.
    Lewis Hamilton 10/10:-)

  26. Paige says:

    There wasn’t much comment on this during the race, but Lewis did 25 laps on his second stint of mediums. That is really quite a long time, and it was longer than Rosberg’s stint on hard tires. He did a nice job to make them last that long, even if he wasn’t able to pull out the gap that his engineers asked of him.

    Clearly, he was struggling quite a bit with the car, as in Bahrain. In Bahrain, he used brilliant race craft to win. Here, he fought through it and willed a win. If he keeps up this level of performance, and Nico can’t capitalize on days like this when he is getting more out of the car, Nico just isn’t going to beat him. Lewis has been miles away when he does have the car working well.

    Kimi got legitimately screwed today with strategy. He was quicker than Alonso on long runs. Bringing Alonso in a lap before to give him an advanatge to jump Raikkonen was pure crap. Any team with any amount of fairness pits the leading car first in a situation like that. Maybe you pit the second car first if they aren’t close and you need to cover someone behind, but every other team would pit the first car first in that situation.

    Vettel pulled off a massive drive today. He was remarkable. This was a step in the right direction. He will sort out his issues and be back to where he was before we know it. I would look for him to be strong with Monaco, as he is quite strong on circuits with lots of low speed corners.

    1. Yago says:

      “Kimi got legitimately screwed today with strategy. He was quicker than Alonso on long runs”

      But guys seriously… did you watch the same race as me??

      1. Dutch johhny says:

        Yes we did, Its only you ho watched a different race actually..

      2. Elie says:

        Yes we did. !- Kimi was qucker in quali, and the first part of the race 2-3 sec at each stint… What else you want fries?

      3. Yago says:

        I would like to rewatch the race with you to sort your numbers out. It is difficult to convince you your numbers are wrong if you don’t watch it again. Maybe when James writes about it…

      4. Yago says:

        hahahaha I’m waiting to James Allen analysis, let’s see if he says Kimi was faster on race pace, or that Ferrari screwed Kimi’s race…

        It is not a question of being a fanboy, it is a question of reading a race properly man.

    2. Mike Martin says:

      +1 Only one small perk

      “He did a nice job to make them last that long, even if he wasn’t able to pull out the gap that his engineers asked of him.”

      Correct me if I am wrong. – The team asked Lewis to make a 4 second gab? When Lewis was entering the pit lane the gab was exactly 4 seconds. The teams pit stop(s) was not so good and that’s the only reason Lewis got pressurized this weekend.

      1. Tealeaf says:

        Not really they kept out Rosberg for 2 laps too long as well costing him 5seconds, he was 21 seconds ahead of Hamilton afyer Hamilton’s final stop but when Rosberg came in due to grained tyres he was only 16secs ahead and came out the pit over 6secs behind, Merc actually tried to screw Nico, I’m sure Hamilton will crack he can barely beat a average team mate without throwing fit after fit, just watch it all go down even at Canada.

      2. KRB says:

        Think someone else has already cracked. :-)

    3. Zachary's disease says:

      “Kimi was quicker than Alonso on long runs”………is this in the race? On hard tyres? I missed that. Can u show us the lap times that prove this. Thanks

      1. Elie says:

        Extra set of tyres – 1 new set of hard..cling.. Thats the penny dropping genius

  27. VV says:

    That was rather boring, I thought. Yes, Hamilton was excellent (as usual) and Vettel’s overtaking was first rate, but there wasn’t really much to get excited about.

  28. f1dingo says:

    Interesting that people complained last year about one man dominating but aren’t complaining this year?
    3rd place man being half a minute down the road is worrying and both Ferrari’s almost being lapped more worrying still.
    No complaints as merc have done a great job but f1 need to be competitive at the front and this year will not be remembered as a classic season. Hamilton’s to lose and bar maybe monaco can see merc winning every race – reliability aside.

    1. Anil Parmar says:

      There weren’t many races for the lead last year though. As long as Merc qualify 1-2 we are in for a treat on Sundays.

      1. PP says:

        I’m assuming you started watching last season in August?

    2. Rich says:

      @f1dingo – maybe because last year there had already been 3 years of RBR/Seb domination …

      If Merc is still winning everything in 3 years time I am sure there will be just as many complaints …

      So I guess we should wait till the novelty value of Merc domination has worn off before we start moaning .. :)

  29. StephenAcworth says:

    Maybe now people will stop whinging about SebVet: what a great drive from 15th to 4th with some really assertive/aggressive driving and passes on track for position.

    About time he is recognized as being the REAL DEAL…

    1. AlexD says:

      where were you the last 4 races?

      1. StephenAcworth says:

        probably the same place as you… watching the TV…

      2. Rohind says:

        where were you last 4 years???

    2. JF says:

      Always has been.

  30. John Wainwright says:

    Further to my comments on a prievous thread, surely this puts to bed finally that Hamilton is not an intelligent driver. I like the way he is using his team info through out the race in a far greater and meaningful way. Finally the boy has become the man many saw in 2007/2008.
    I feel for Nico who I think is a very very decent driver and with nearly any other team mate would be the dominant driver.
    Very impressed with Seb this weekend. No tantrums just got his nose down and worked very hard for his 4th.

    1. JF says:

      Hamilton is a great driver. Like Schumacher used to, he may occasionally suffer from the “red mist” as Coulthard puts it and get over aggressive but that if far from lacking wits.

      Like other myths ie. Vettel throwing tantrums, there is no reality behind them.

  31. HP says:

    James, What’s your opinion on this- Hamilton came in one lap later for his 2nd pit stop which delayed Rosberg’s stop because he couldn’t come in before Hamilton. Was that deliberate move from Hamilton?

    1. Dr Lewis says:

      Oh come on – Lewis lost nearly four seconds or more in the pit stops leaving a few here to think Mercedes are trying to up the interest in the racing following the approval ratings at Bahrain, at best or somehow penalising Lewis at worst.

      Was I the only one that noticed just how covered in sweat Lewis was compared the the self admitted sweaty Rosberg at the end of the race?

      He worked truly hard for that win and had little help to achieve it

      We should be thankful its not RBR or Ferrari – or it would already be over…

      1. HP says:

        How does that answer my question?
        So you believe Merc would deliberately mess up Hamilton’s pit stop, but Hamilton can’t deliberately delay Rosberg’s stop?

        PS. in the post-race interview, Rosberg said that late-stopping didn’t affect him. But he didn’t explain it properly so I am not really sure what he meant.

      2. Dr Lewis says:

        No I don’t but to assume that in the heat of what was quite a battle that there could be such clarity of thought a most likely unsuccessful tactic is extreme. It would require LH to have a complete picture of all the traffic positions in his head to work. Unlikely I think.

        Further if you look back a little you will actually note NR has been given the preferred initial pitstop before Hamilton at times despite his being in the lead where, as you know you usually get the first choice of any potential undercut.

        Merc are trying to treat each equally as best they can – mistakes happen and races are lost without such pointless tactics within a team.

        Nico I think was referring to catching some traffic following the stop. Hope that helps

  32. Christian says:

    As a Hamilton fan I’m gutted that Vettle isn’t his team mate. Rosberg for me is Vettles equal and I’d like to see Hamilton get the chance to make the point.

    1. Grant H says:

      Id like to see that!!!

  33. Kidza says:

    Well done Lewis, champion drive. Great drive from Rosberg too but it must be said he had a lot of help from the team this weekend:
    1) Setup – Lewis had the best setup bar none on Friday. For some reason they saw the need to change it overnight, somehow Rosberg emerges with the better setup on Saturday and Lewis struggles for the rest of the weekend. How does that happen? (same thing happened in Bahrain),
    2) Pitstops – more that 2 seconds lost for Lewis. I’m sure it wasn’t deliberate but it happened,
    3) Strategy – Lewis brought in for his second stop at a time when he was pulling away or at least maintaining the gap to Nico and his pace was still good. His engineer said they did it to to keep him on the optimum strategy, he did not say it was to avoid traffic. Why not extend the stint then and delay the slower tyre?

    1. Damon says:

      Strange isn’t it?? Why mess with his setup when he was wiping the floor with Rosberg on Friday??

      1. SaScha says:

        To make it look closer. A walk in the park for Lewis is not what the Mercedes-Headhonchos and Bernie want to see. So put some stones in his way to give Rosberg a chance to win,and spice a otherwise boring start to flag victory for Hamilton up.

    2. Torchwood Five says:

      Glad someone else noticed.

      Hope we don’t get a repeat of McLaren 2012.

    3. AuraF1 says:

      But everyone keeps saying Hamilton is a master at set up so if it went backwards isn’t it his fault?

      I think it’s clear the merc does still have a few set up issues in its DNA but overall it’s power and integration is still so dominant we’re not noticing other than minor differences between Lewis and Nico.

  34. iGOR BdA says:

    Another borefest… The 2015 season can’t come soon enough.

    1. AlexD says:

      I am sure you were saying the same last year about 2014

      1. jF says:

        Same sh//t different day

      2. iGOR BdA says:

        No, not really. And if you can’t tell the difference I pity how you see the sport.

  35. HP says:

    Boring race until the last 10 or so laps.
    So after all the new chassis is working for Vettel. great drive for him.
    What happened to Grosjean? He was driving a solid 5th and all of a sudden he loses straight-line speed?
    Massa didn’t get the job done, him and Williams have thrown away quite a lot of points.
    McLaren boys must be pretty angry being the slowest Mercedes-engine team. Surely Button’s last year? and Magnussen is not getting any limelight either.
    Waiting for James’ report on Mercedes and Ferrari so no comment.

    1. toleman fan says:

      > What happened to Grosjean? He was driving a solid 5th and all of a sudden he loses straight-line speed?

      Yes, he did. There was a fault in the powertrain, he had to drive round it.

  36. Juzh says:

    Great overtaking moves by vettel on the brakes and round the outside. There’s simply no way to overtake on the straights with that renault PU.
    DOTD without doubt.

    1. Jonathan says:

      please explain how a 4 x WDC can possibly be DOTD when he is beaten by his inexperienced team mate?

      1. TGS says:

        He started in 15th after his car broke down in Q3 and was handed a 5 place grid penalty.

      2. jF says:

        Start 10 positions back. Easy. Learn to count

      3. Emanuel Martin says:

        They way qualifying went before the transmission went out and judging by the way Seb drove today, I somehow doubt Dan would’ve had his first official podium.
        The fact that Riccardo started third and Vettel 15th due to technical failure and resulting penalty has to be considered when judging perfomance. Not even the great Senna won every single race. Does that fact make him less good?

      4. PP says:

        By that logic Hamilton drove a pathetic race because he didn’t beat his non-world champion teammate.

      5. KRB says:

        Uh, he didn’t beat him? Did I miss something?

      6. PP says:

        Comment was meant in jest. If Vettel going from 15th to 4th (the best he could’ve done)is not enough for Jonathan above to see why not beating Ricciardo wasn’t considered a factor in picking him as DOTD. It’s like saying Hamilton is worse than Rosberg because he started ahead and finished ahead only by a second. That is rubbish logic. And so, therefore, is Jonathan’s.

      7. Juzh says:

        did you even watch the race? Or fp1, 2 or 3? Or quali? Do you even know what was going on troughout the weekend?

      8. Dutch johhny says:

        Because he started 12 places back maybe? and finsihed only one place behind his team mate. Whats the matter with people like you?

      9. KRB says:

        What did you think about Hamilton’s drive at Spain 2012 where he started 14 places behind his teammate, and finished one place ahead of him, making up 16 places?

      10. Juzh says:

        vettel started in the pit lane in abu dhabi 2012 and finished 3rd.

  37. KING Arthur 2 U says:

    Don’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile win still a win. Rosberg schooled yet again. All the races Rosberg had an advantage seem to be getting negated. Let’s see
    what happens on the coast of France. Purchasing fuel for the G6 right now. Go #team LH not a fan but if Nico looses out in Monaco it’s a rap team orders in full effect with my opinion. Nico would have had enough his chance but smething gotta give

  38. kingszito says:

    How would someone say that this race was boring? Lewis and Rosberg were racing hard against each other and behind them there were fights everywhere on the grid.

    Rosberg has failed twice to capitalize on Lewis’ bad days to win, and as I see it now only DNF could deny Hamilton this championship.

    I must say that I was disappointed that Ferrari pitted Alonso first. They denied us a straight fair fight between Alonso and Kimi. Kimi was ahead of Alonso and should have been pitted first for a fair race against each other. Not that Alonso was faster or had any position ahead to gain.

    Vettel’s drive today was sublime, however he needs to start beating Ricciardo. Vettel is my driver of the day.

    1. iGOR BdA says:

      Perhaps because, unlike you, not everyone likes to watch a race with only one team and two cars…

    2. Hansb says:

      Alonso was pitted to cover Massa who was behind him and came in early.
      Had they brought in Kimi first they would have lost track position.
      To me Kimi lost it because he was slower on the hard compound.

  39. Seized Up says:

    Did Mercedes make LH’s job a little harder than they needed by pitting him too early for his second stop?

    1. Yago says:

      I believe so yes! Very good point, I thought the same at the time.

    2. Grant H says:

      And they lost 2-3 seconds on both stops too slow

      1. Grant H says:


    3. Dr Lewis says:


      Have a look at post 31

  40. Steven says:

    For me the highlight of the race was the drive from Seb. It was sheer determination and yes been unleashed with new tyres was a massive factor but from 15th to 4th was a superb achievement. I believe this is a sign that he is coming to terms with the complete package at his disposal. Coming off so many years of an almost perfect car means a whole new approach but it looks as if he is finally moulding and adapting his car to his driving style.

    1. All revved-up says:

      It does look that way. Look forward to a straight head to head between Seb and Ric. We had a great head to head battle between Ham vs Rosberg; Alonso vs Kimi; and Perez vs Hulk.

  41. UncleZen says:

    Similar domination to JB in 2009

    1. JF says:

      Yes but i don’t think the other cars can catch up with todays rule structure.

  42. goferet says:

    What a rock star Lewis is for everytime you think he would fold under the immense pressure, he somehow manages to hold on and defend his position.

    Yes great win for Lewis today for today’s race all hinged on leading the championship or still being second.

    Mercedes are rock stars too considering they give their drivers equal opportunity to win with different strategies plus built one hell of a beast

    Good drive from Rosberg, he deserved the win as was much quicker but unfortunately didn’t have track position.

    Congrats to Riccardo for finally getting back his podium with an error free drive and also impressive performance from Vettel as he put in one mighty champion’s drive >>> for sure this chassis is the right one.

    Very happy for Bottas and the Williams team on their P5, it seems the team found some nice solutions in the factory over the two week break.

    Nice battles between the Ferraris and Force Indias and that’s what they call taking no prisoners though I was surprised it was Perez that came out on top in the Force India battle.

    Was gutted for Grosjean for he was having a good race staying ahead of the Ferraris till the pitstops but at least the team are headed in the right direction.

    Overall, was an enjoyable race as drivers are out there fighting for every point and piece of tarmac.

    1. Gaz Boy says:

      Controversial statement of the day from myself……….but was the Romain Empire driver of the day? Yes, I’d say it was! Given how dreadful that car/engine/team package has been so far to score a competitive spoonful of points has to be considered one of the best driving performances of the year!

      1. Gaz Boy says:

        Mind you, Sebastian was pretty handy getting upto 4th from mid grid. And we all thought Barcelona is a not a overtaking track!

      2. goferet says:

        @ Gaz Boy

        Lol… That may be a little controversial

        But taking into account the tools Grosjean had to play with, he sure qualifies as a candidate for driver of the day.

  43. Elie says:

    I said after Bahrain Rosberg is Psyched out by Lewis and its getting worse. Nico will need tremendous courage to take Lewis on now. Lewis car was not as good as Nicos and he still beat him despite slow pit stops too!!.

    Fantastic effort Daniel Ricciardo -may there be plenty more! Drive of the day Sebastian Vettel what a beast !

    I suppose I shouldnt be surprised by Ferrari and their politics Fernando couldn’t match Kimi wheel to wheel so they beat him in the garage. Im absolutely disgusted by Ferrari for not pitting the faster AND lead driver to a 3 stop- disgracefull!

    1. Elie says:

      *duplicate please delete*

    2. Anil Parmar says:

      There was no need to pit Kimi. They chose to pit Alonso to cover Seb which backfired as they did it too late.

      If they chose to pit Kimi the same ‘anti-ferrari’ message would be said on here. ‘They changed Kimi’s strategy to let Alonso through’.

      If Ferrari wanted Alonso ahead of Kimi they would have told Kimi to let him through in the first stint when his pace was so poor even Massa started to attack Alonso.

      1. Elie says:

        Thats complete rubbish because everyone knows the lead driver should get preference. So no- everyone including Fernando would understand if Kimi was pit first!

    3. Zachary's disease says:

      That’s what happens when your favourite driver has difficulty speaking, has no personality or presence IMO….I’m mean he raced for a season and a half for free and only spoke up after he signed for Ferrari. Seriously he’s a world champ but like Damon hill, let’s himself get bullied at every opportunity.

  44. Miha Bevc says:

    Hamilton is driving excellent at the moment, Rosberg just can’t find the answer it seems. Hope he does, eventually.

    Why was Hamilton so paranoid on the radio? It doesn’t sound like he has a stable mind, although results show otherwise.

    Vettel is my driver of the day. 15th to 4th, being the only guy who did some overtaking, and what a great overtaking it was. He didn’t lose much time doing it.

  45. Sebee says:

    Look, I’m not alone in GP2 vs. F1 questions…


  46. Ahmed says:

    Why is it tht some fans just can’t accept that alonso is a better driver thn raikonnen? Irrespective of personal opinion, the results speak for themselves – oh right, ferrari are out to sabotage raikonnen. Luca turned up at the race just to make sure the team doesn’t give raikonnen a fair shot at racing… Tragic!

    Great drive from vettel, climbing from 15th on th grid to 4th is impressive even if ur driving a RBR considering the circuit characteristics.

    Lewis and nico! The show just gets better, th race was by no means boring unless ur completely biassed against mercedes. Up until tht final sector there was no guaranteed winner.

    Wrt mclaren, well that team just can’t seem to understand their car or how to make it any faster… All hopes pinned on prodromu and honda

    1. Yago says:

      “oh right, ferrari are out to sabotage raikonnen. Luca turned up at the race just to make sure the team doesn’t give raikonnen a fair shot at racing… Tragic!”

      It is quite funny yes!

    2. Gaz Boy says:

      I would say Fernando is more consistent, he hits his peaks race after race unlike Kimi who does vary between brilliance to banality. Harsh, but sometimes you watch Kimi in admiration and other times he seems totally lost.
      Fernando, full commitment and motivation at all times – can’t fault that.

      1. Ahmed says:

        Kimi has a narrow operating window, if he its tht sweet spot thn he’s beastly bt thts very rare… He’s nt cut frm th alonso/hamilton/vettel cloth

    3. PP says:

      The car isn’t built for Kimi’s driving style. In fact, it’s the complete opposite of his driving style. Maybe that has a lot to do with it.

    4. Arnie S says:

      I thought that Kimi would do a better job. Alonso is one hell of a race driver, and Kimi is not bad, but apart from some car issues, Alonso has outscoped him so far.

  47. Elie says:

    I said after Bahrain Rosberg is Psyched out by Lewis and its getting worse. Nico will need tremendous courage to take Lewis on now. Lewis car was not as good as Nicos and he still beat him despite slow pit stops too!!.

    Fantastic effort Daniel Ricciardo -may there be plenty more! Same for Valtteri !.. Drive of the day Sebastian Vettel what a beast !

    I suppose I shouldnt be surprised by Ferrari and their politics Fernando couldn’t match Kimi wheel to wheel so they beat him in the garage. Im absolutely disgusted by Ferrari for not pitting the faster AND lead driver to a 3 stop- disgracefull. Im sure Ferrari will sweeten it to the fans and even you James with some kind of hindset strategy plan. But reality is the lead driver needs to be given the optimum strategy call ( be it by choice or design) for the race and that was Raikkonen.Tyres over the weekend were very much the same so theres no argument there either. The only thing you could say is that FA is ahead on points – buts its way too early in the season for that nonsense and not the thing you want to inspire the first guy to be quicker than Fernando in a while ( and after only 5 races with the team). Im anxious to hear the fallout of this.

    Wheres Mclaren!, What happened to Force India-wow heros to zeros. 3′weeks is an eternity in F1.

    1. Yago says:

      “I suppose I shouldnt be surprised by Ferrari and their politics Fernando couldn’t match Kimi wheel to wheel so they beat him in the garage.”

      I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised by Kimi fans attitude in this site, but actually it surprises me as it is so obvious. Amazing how your favoritism towards a driver don’t let you do a proper analysis.

      Kimi’s strategy was the best, a bit more than 7 seconds faster assuming that both drivers run in clean air. As Alonso was going to Kimi’s speeds for two stints, the strategy change at that point was even worse.

      Amazing how can you conclude Kimi was faster in the race, specially seeing the first stint and their respective speed with the hards. Hard to believe that you can not see all this things, but I guess this is how it is…

      1. Panya says:


      2. PP says:

        “Kimi’s strategy was the best”

        So you’re saying Vettel went from 15th to 4th on the worst strategy?

      3. Yago says:

        No, three stopper was probably the best estrategy for Vettel because going different than the guys in front he managed to stay in clean air most of the time, and make use of his superior pace. The same for Alonso vs Kimi.

        The three guys on the podium did a two stopper, as they didn`t have traffic and were able to unleash all his speed. Even Rosberg did not risk to do a two stopper, because although he would have managed to run in clean air (and not behind Hamilton) and use his slightly better pace, the best strategy in terms of time to cover the race distance was a two stopper, and going to three stops was too much of a compromise.

      4. James Allen says:

        It is all in tomorrow’s UBS Race strategy report

      5. Elie says:

        Hard for you to see what the whole world can see & a saying so..twitter feeds went crazy..Fernando indercut Kimi once and Kimi still pulled away..but after the second time on old hard tyres he had no chnace.. Its enough for you to be ignorant but another to be blind

      6. Yago says:

        hahaha wait for James analysis then… I hope he is not too politically correct though, as there are many Kimi fans in his site.

  48. Nico is sure trying, and I think he will give up soon because Lewis is unbeatable at the moment.

    Not my fan Vettel did well today

  49. sami says:

    Wow Ferrari! All that disgusting favoritism towards Alonso just to get him sixth place. What is wrong with Kimi’s sixth place? Isn’t it same as Alonso’s sixth place in team’s point of view?

    1. ruthvin says:

      so true .. i mean 6th place.. and u change strategy itself for no good reason…

  50. daniel bryan says:

    Great drives from both Hamilton and Vettel today lot of interesting sub plots from the race – inter team rivalries with Mercedes, Ferrari and Force India, the performance of Mclaren, the 1st points for Lotus, Riccardio performing brilliantly.

    Roll on Monaco!!!

    1. ferggsa says:

      Glad to see someone still enjoys the races and looks deeper than just who ended up in first

      1. daniel bryan says:

        Cheers man racing is racing to me I love any type. I enjoyed last year when Vettel won 9 in a row, I’m enjoying it now too.

        I think I enjoy the racing because I love the technical stuff the politics and every battle down the field, it’s not always about who wins shame the TV coverage doesn’t see it that way

  51. Blackmamba says:

    The tension towards the end if that race was quite something. Maybe it’s just me but I feel with the roles reversed and Lewis with a faster set up he would have passed Nico. I felt the same in Bahrain. Nico just doesn’t have the killer instinct of a creature higher up on the food chain, nice block though he is!

    1. Dutch johhny says:

      I agree mate.

  52. Goob says:

    Do you think that Hamilton is too good at fuel saving, and in return is carrying extra weight at the end of the race?

    He needs a system to dump excess fuel, so is not disadvantaged with his superior fuel saving skills.

    1. Grant H says:

      I though that too and am surprised his race eng didnt get him into a rich mode to burn some fuel its gotta of cost him a tenth on nico

    2. James Clayton says:

      Or just start with less fuel!

    3. KRB says:

      Just start with less fuel.

  53. Richardc says:

    Great drive from LH. I think I saw the 2014 WDC win today. Hate to say it but if Noco wins by that ridiculous double points then Bernie simply has to go. I am genuinely worried that it could happen after Lewis,s dominance.

    1. Grant H says:

      I really really really hope the title is decided before final race, if someone wins due to double points people will always question the legality of being a WDC, it will be terrible for the history if the sport

  54. SD says:

    Great driving by Lewis and Nico. If Lewis went on to win the championship, it’s much more deserving than some of Vettel’s. But, what a drive by Vettel! It’s what is expected from a 4-time world champion, even if he drove with nothing-to-lose attitude.

    1. SteveS says:

      “If Lewis went on to win the championship, it’s much more deserving than some of Vettel’s.”

      if Lewis wins this championship (and its difficult to see how he can fail to do so) it will be one of the least deserving WDC’s in history. His car has a much greater edge on the competition than any of Vettels ever had.

      You remember all that stuff people kept saying for the last four years about how “It’s not the driver, it’s the car”? Well, this year it’s true.

      1. Davej says:

        Steve you have your work cut out defending Vettel to the bitter end. Honestly you sound like a disciple. Put it this way- stop worrying about the stellar job that Lewis is doing. You should be more concerned about Dan the Man who is showing up your “God” thus far and doing a better job that even Sebastian himself admits to.

      2. Grant H says:

        I dont agree with SD re “deserving vs seb” but Lewis is still up against an excellent Rosberg and weve seen Lewis drag good results out of underperforming cars, I think the difference with seb is that hes never (whilst at RB) had a bad car, lets see how he does this year vs ricciardo

      3. Richard says:

        It remains to be seen if any of the teams make any inroads into Mercs power unit superiority, but I do feel the Red Bull have a very good car aerodynamically just don’t have the power/torque delivery of the Merc. No I think we have to be fair! – All drivers need a highly competitve car if they are to win the championship. It doesn’t really matter by how much as long as they can maintain it as it is position that matters not lap time advantage. It does seem as though Vettel has now got over his troubles, but I doubt they were chassis related, more likely PU software related.

      4. SD says:

        Both both Lewis and Vettel had dominant cars but Lewis now has a far better competition from his team mate that what Vettel had in the last few years. It’s just ridiculous that Vettel could just drive off into the sunset from pole in most of his wins.

      5. KRB says:

        The margin of superiority does not matter that much …once superiority is established, the wins roll in. Vettel had car superiority for the last 4 years. FOUR. Now Hamilton gets it for one year, and you’re in a tizzy?!

        The driver part is between Rosberg and Hamilton. Don’t give me the “Webber beat Rosberg when they were teammates” line …Rosberg was a rookie, they had a crap car, and the final score was 7-4!

        Such dated and linear comparisons can’t be made. Or else I could say that Di Resta’s always been better than Vettel, ‘cos he beat him as teammates in F3 when both had the best car. Or that Vergne is better than Ricciardo ‘cos he beat him in 2012, so then Vergne is likely better than Vettel, seeing how it’s going so far in the VET-RIC pairing. Or how ’bout this one? Karthikeyan beat Ricciardo’s results in the HRT, when both had the same amount of rounds in the car. So then, ergo, I can now conclude that “the cucumber” would be giving our 4x DWC a hard time in the same car this year!!

        Imagine if it was still Rosberg vs. Schumi in the Merc this year …I’m pretty sure Rosberg would be getting the “he’s moved it up another gear this year”, and basically be talked about as Vettel was in 2010.

      6. Davej says:


      7. Rockie says:

        What kind of slander is that comparing Rosberg to Vettel?

      8. Yago says:

        LOL Nice post. But don’t rely too much on 2007 when comparing Alonso and Hamilton then!… Just joking ;)

      9. KRB says:

        @Rockie, so you’re ok with me comparing him to Di Resta, or any of the others? :-)

        I like Ricciardo, I think he’s a good driver, and quick. But if I was a team principal, I’d take Rosberg before Ricciardo. I think most would. That’s even as Ricciardo should be leading Seb in the standings, if not for MAL (12 pts there, and likely 3rd in BHN w/o the grid penalty), and AUS (10 pts if they stayed within the FF rates).

  55. Piet says:

    James, going back in history, has Ferrari ever been lapped in a F1 race?!

    1. Yago says:

      Of course!!! For example, in this same track back in 2011, where both Ferrari’s were lapped.

    2. AlexD says:

      many times

    3. Fernando "150%" Alonso says:

      Barcelona 2011?! Alonso :)

    4. Dutch johhny says:

      2003 hungary. Schumacher got stuck behind trulli the whole race in 7Th i believe.

    5. toleman fan says:

      1984 British GP Brands Hatch, they finished a lapped 5th & 6th.

      I’m pretty sure Senna lapped both Ferraris in the Toleman as well, even though he only finished 3rd.

  56. Will Rowan says:

    I wonder just how good/different Vettel’s new chassis is from the first one. It didn’t really run enough through practice to show its pace – and broke down before showing the qualifying potential in Q3.

    Did Red Bull learn enough in the first races to improve it… and to let the Renault power unit develop more power?

    I guess we’ll find out if Riccardio gets a new chassis too.

    1. Juzh says:

      Vettel is now using old chassis from testing. Not a new one. Confirmed by himself.

  57. Gary says:

    After the race Jenson said his McLaren has “no grip”.

    1. Grant H says:

      Cant believe they have made anothe dog of a car

  58. Richard says:

    I don’t get Red Bull their “We can’t win this championship”-attitude, today they demonstrated that have a very decent car, and that it is just the engine that is letting them down every now and then. Just imagine how boring 2010 and 2012 would have been if Alonso had the same attitude. If one of the Bulls plants it on pole for Monaco, they will be in very good shape to win that race.

    1. Gaz Boy says:

      While it is true that the Bulls have an excellent chassis with lots of clean, efficient downforce, sharp steering and good suspension compliance, they are down on torque by at least 80 lb – possibly as much 90 to 100 lb of torque. That is a huge chunk of twisting force and therefore acceleration to give away to the Mercs, and I doubt Renault can close the gap anytime soon.
      Previously, with the V8 engines, the difference between the Renault and Merc was only about 25-30 BHP, while the excellent, driver friendly torque curve, low fuel consumption and drive-ability of the Renault V8 – as well as lower thermal discharge – was probably better than the Mercedes V8s.
      Now however, it has flip-flopped with the Mercedes turbo(s) have a lower thermal discharge (and therefore better efficiency as Merc teams can use smaller radiators), more torque, better fuel consumption and a “meatier” torque curve providing much better acceleration out of slow corners.
      The turbo engines have put the “motor” into motor sport!

      1. TGS says:

        Do you think the engine freeze was a mistake this year?

      2. Gaz Boy says:

        Yes, but all the engine builders agreed to it, so they (Renault and Ferrari) just have to grin and bear it.

    2. SteveS says:

      “Just imagine how boring 2010 and 2012 would have been if Alonso had the same attitude.”

      I distinctly remember Alonso whinging incessantly about his car in 2012, and with much less justification.

      “it is just the engine that is letting them down every now and then”

      Every GP is hardly “every now and then”.

      1. Richard says:

        Wrong, it was 2013 when Alonso started complaining(and that was after the tires were changed to Red Bull specifications where they could unleash full potential of their car even though they knew full well that the tires were going to be alot more fragile in 2013, something which Ferrari didn’t ignore). During the 2012 season Alonso’s attitude towards Ferrari pretty much was “C’mon lads we can do this”. That didn’t work so he took the aggressive approach, and started complaining. And why wouldn’t Alonso complain? Ferrari have failed to deliver since 2010, a year which they had a “reasonable” car,

        Also, about the engine, considering where they were in pre-season testing, the Renault engine has improved quite a bit. To compare the pre-season testing with the five races we’ve seen so far, their engine is indeed letting them down every now and then. Dan is dropping solid results every GP, it is only Vettel who is having a little bit more trouble with his engine, but then again, at Red Bull the no.2 driver always has had more mechanical failures, so nothing new there!

    3. Grant H says:

      Think RB are being realistic, merc are too dominant, RB never had this advantage vs ferrari, RB may win some races this year but i think in a couple more races like this the title will be out of reach

  59. NickH says:

    Ferrari really screwed Kimi today with a really slow strategy. Gave Alonso the far faster strategy despite being beaten fair and square all weekend. Cringeworthy hearing Alonso say after, ‘It’s the only thing we could do cos my tyres were going off’. Yeah right, like everyone else’s tyres were perfect.

    1. Anil Parmar says:

      They boxed Alonso early in stint 1 to cover Massa who was a second behind, and they changed alonso to a 3 stopper to cover Seb, which was blindingly obvious if you watched the live timings too. It’s not a case of ‘Why did Ferrari screw Kimi’, it’s a case of ‘Why didn’t ferrari box alonso a lap earlier’. I’m still fuming they left Alonso out until so late!

      1. Rohind says:

        But seeing how Alonso was only within 1 s of Kimi, don’t you think Kimi should have got the first priority at the pit stopsstops, seeing how he was the lead car? Didn’t Ferrari have the obligation to cover Kimi against Massa and Alonso at that point? Don’t tell me Kimi was on 2 stopper at that point. They made that call only after the 1st round of pitstops.
        Ferrai wanted Alonso ahead of Raikkonen.Period!

      2. PP says:

        Well if they did that, they sure as hell didn’t tell Kimi about it until the race ended. Usually teams are honest with their drivers, wouldn’t you say…

      3. Elie says:

        So why didnt they cover Kimi from Fernando and Felipe.

      4. Yago says:

        They did, he pitted the lap after.

      5. Elie says:

        BEFORE ALONSO for the umpteenth time!..holy smoke your not very clever are you..

      6. ruthvin says:

        did u see the race .. alonso was closer to kimi than massa was to alonso .. no sensible team (ex mercedes) would have pitted lead driver second..
        but ferrari pit alonso first . if kimi really wanted a 2 stop strategy then on the first stint he would have definetely gone longer….

      7. Elie says:

        Why didnt they switch Kimi to 3 stop – both Fernando & Felipe were a threat.Why didnt they pit Kimi ahead of Seb. Why dont you use common sense..

  60. Box Box Box says:

    Hey James

    Sebastian got the fastest lap of the day today, now I know he was on a different strategy but how come Nico didn’t obliterate it when he put on the mediums with lower fuel? Do you think Seb could have run the mercs closer than Daniel did today if he had a clean qualifying ala Malaysia where he was very close to Nico at times.

    1. Brian says:

      Vettel pitted 7 laps later than Rosberg, but was only three tenths faster.

    2. Juzh says:

      i guess we’ll never know

      1. Mike says:

        Could find out in the next race.

    3. Grant H says:

      Heard track temp was hotter which meant the med was not working so well

    4. Ahmed says:

      Track position will have played a role in ths, nico was chasing lewis, dirty air etc… Vettel was running in a lot of clean air

  61. David says:

    A real slow-burn race, spoiled in its climax by the FOM TV director cutting away from the action in the second DRS zone to instead show Rosberg’s wife watching what we should have been. What tension there was was completely ruined.

    Too many times in today’s race the TV coverage cut away or missed the action, and whilst seeing garage reaction to things which have happened is fair enough, too many times this season have we cut away from track action to see wives and girlfriends passively staring at monitors.

    Come on FOM, you can do better than this.

  62. spactus says:

    Listening to the BBC and SKY I always get the sense from them that they are anticipating a Lewis melt down as soon as things not going 100%

    When Rosberg took the initiative in p3 Suddenly Suzy PERRY start talking about Rosberg as the tower of Calm while Lewis is some 12yr girl in constant panic.Lewis was also taken back in his BBC interview stating that people keep talking about him not being calm.while he taught he is quite a calm person

    I m really impressed with Lewis leadership and assertiveness towards his engineer,non of that Mclaren shut up and drive nonsense.Lewis is keeping on top of his strategy in real time.proof of how much Lewis on top of his game,in the past he left it totally in their hands and found out that they dont always have his back.

    As usual the guys at sky cant accept an assertive Blackman in Lewis and have all kind of critism of him acting like Lewis was unravelling.if it was white boy Kimi or Alonso they would be chuckling about no none sense leadership and intelligence about being on top of his setup and strategy in the heat of battle.

    4 wins on the trot but it seems that Rosberg has the edge going to Monaco,because he edge it last yr.every race is Rosberge race to prove,then Lewis wins then its next race.Imaging is Lewis had lost 4 on the trot,the media would have held an intervention

    well done Lewis keep taking the wins while you tell Nico he was faster.You Know from your Mclaren experience THEY like to see you in a Timid humble crutch,any thing else and they will collude to put you in your place.keep up the good work

    1. Mike from Colombia says:

      Absolutely 100% agree with your post. Amazed that your post made it through moderation. Have always thought the same.

    2. Dazzle says:

      Best comment by far!!!

    3. AuraF1 says:

      If it is racism then it’s present in Mercedes too since Lewis’ engineers have said he is hard to handle on the radio. I don’t think it is racism though – the occasionally petulant remarks from Vettel have made the commentators perk up. I guess it’s just drama. Lewis clearly reserves his aggression for radio calls these days!

    4. Mike from Colombia says:

      100% agree with you.

      My last response to this post mysteriously never made it through.

    5. daniel bryan says:

      Totally agree too mate just reading back everyone’s posts, Lewis was able to give a lot of technical feedback to his engineer whilst driving a very technical track, he has the measure of Rosberg, I think only Bundle vaguely sees this.

  63. mr coltrane says:


    lewis seemed much more comfortable and faster in the warmer conditions on Friday, so is it fair to assume that the cooler temps of 20 degrees brought Nico more into play on Saturday and race day?

    1. Grant H says:

      Lewis was never 100% happy with his final race set up, they made a wrong choice somewhere before qually

  64. Methusalem says:

    “As has been the case this season the Brackley team opted to give Rosberg a different strategy, with the German taking a set of the slower hard tyre at his first stop whilst Hamilton remained with the faster option”

    As has been the case in Bahrain! Rosberg was faster then on the soft tyre. Why didn’t Hamilton use the same strategy as it’s reasonable to have faster option on lighter cars?

    1. Yago says:

      It is the same than with Ferrari. Hamilton’s was the better strategy, but Rosberg was quicker today, specially second and third stints.

    2. Grant H says:

      The different strategy is probably best from a team approach as u limit the wheel to wheel (risk) to the end of the race, they would have planned it all before race

    3. James Clayton says:

      Being in front, you have the advantage of stopping first. Unfortunately this goes hand in hand with the disadvantage of not being able to react to your team mate. If Hamilton had put the hards on at the first stop, Rosberg would have presumably done the opposite.

  65. Thompson says:

    Was Hamilton toying with Rosberg?
    He managed the gap to perfection if he is – a very shrude race.

    Nice to see a race start without the pole sitter swerving across the track.

    Redbull/Renault are getting there – and will start getting closer, maybe we will see the Mercs being challenged later this season.


    1. AlexD says:

      I do not see Red Bull getting there. If anything, the gap increased…

    2. aveli says:

      swerving is idiotic! it only means you travel a longer distance to the first corner and if you’re in competition with a car with a similar performance, they’ll beat you to the first corner by driving straight, taking the shorter distance to the first corner.

    3. Ahmed says:

      I too suspect that lewis is in a psychological duel with nico. Always leaving the door open just enough for nico to have a peak but shutting it th minute he tries to steps in

    4. kenneth chapman says:

      @ thompson….are there you are. i have been searching for this thompson chap who has something to tell me and there you are!

      what exactly was it that you wanted passed on if you couldn’t find me?

  66. AlexD says:

    My summary of the trace: NON-INSPIRATIONAL.

    1. Merc increased the gap since China and is now at least a full 1 sec per lap faster than Red Bull and around 2 sec per lap faster than Ferrari

    2. Rosberg is close to Hamilton, but Hamilton is just a fraction better and it makes a difference. Rosberg is still due DNF though…

    3. Alonso overtook Kimi only because of the pit stop strategy as he was on faster/fresher tyres.

    Unless both Merc will DNF nobody is going to win a race this year. Ferrari will not win for many years because of their internal structure and the lack of efficiency and innovations. Red Bull will try to work on ideas to win races this year and possibly win a title next year.

    If somebody did not see this race, there is no need to watch a recording as it is dull.

    1. Sebee says:

      Did I write this? Swear I wrote exactly this.

    2. jf says:

      It will take a double DNf from Merc for another team to win. Hamilton and Rsberg are close enough that merc has a guarenteed win either way

      1. AlexD says:

        I mean Merc as a team, so it will take both Ham and Ros out of the race for another driver to smell the victory.

  67. NickW says:

    Great race with some interesting inter-team battles. Good to see Raikonnen on Alonso’s pace even though he was beaten again in the end.

    Not sure why people are saying Ferrari favoured Alonso. Raikonnen would have been informed of the change in strategy of Alonso moving to a 3-stop and could have done the same if he’d wanted to.

    So Alonso beat him on strategy and tyre usage which is a shame for Kimi as this was the first race where at least in qualifying and the race, if not practice, he had a similar pace to Alonso.

    Lewis is doing a great job of winning when Rosberg potentially has the edge in terms of set-up / pace.

    At least the Mercedes drivers are dueling though unlike last years procession with Red Bull/Vettel.

    1. Andrew M says:

      “Not sure why people are saying Ferrari favoured Alonso. Raikonnen would have been informed of the change in strategy of Alonso moving to a 3-stop and could have done the same if he’d wanted to.”

      Are you 1000000% sure about that?

      1. NickW says:

        If Ferrari didn’t inform Raikonnen that would be appalling and a very unwise approach to start demotivating their new driver 5 races in.

        Reading Raikonnen’s displeasure after the race maybe they didn’t, which would explain Kimi’s reaction.

        It looked though that a 3 stopper was ‘forced’ on Alonso if he wanted to get ahead as the Ferrari’s were evenly matched and following another car with equal top speed in the dirty air makes it tough to get ahead even with DRS. Both Ferrari’s were struggling with grip which certainly doesn’t help the car behind so an alternative strategy was right for Alonso but for Kimi, it probably made sense to stay on a 2-stop.

        Ferrari had better get on top of this one quickly to avoid any inter-team squabbles.

    2. Yago says:

      Agree, amazing how people is confusing things with Ferrari’s strategy. Only thing I disagree is that Kimi’s was not similar Alonso’s in the race, specially the first stint and with the hards.

    3. PP says:

      He wasn’t informed about it, se his comments after the race.

    4. Elie says:

      Thats why Kimi was furious after the race. If he was properly informed do you think he would have allowed Fernando to undercut him ??

  68. Greg says:

    Get in there Lewis! Waited so long for you to the have car and most importantly, the team, to do the business son. This is the year finally!

    1. jf says:

      True. Can’t do it on driving alone, no one can.

  69. Thompson says:

    McLaren lapped – did anyone see the BBC interview with Button, talking about Magnussons inexperience ref feedback on car set up?

    Looks like Macca did rely quite a bit on Hamiltons input ref car set up.

    Button needs a reality check – Magnusson is looking to Button, he needs to get his finger out. Even Perez is moving forward with his new team.

    Macca are going backwards.

    1. aveli says:

      when he best driver to have stepped foot in the history of the sport leaves a team, they still feel the effects many years after.

      1. Dutch johhny says:

        Who are you talking about mate? Senna,Schumacher or fangio?

      2. aveli says:

        i suspect you know i’m talking about hamilton.:-)
        ever since hamilton left mclaren, they seem not to know what’s going on with their car.
        2009 hamilton took the poor mclaren at the start of the season to victory at the end of the season.
        2013& 2014 they seem not to have an idea what’s going on.
        even button’s complaining.

      3. German Samurai says:

        I think he means Hamilton–who Button beat in the same car in 2011. The guy panicking on the radio yesterday because he was so worried about his journeyman teammate Rosberg.

      4. aveli says:

        @ german samurai, button is in his 14th f1 season and yet he only remembers how good it was to work with the best, hamilton and talked about it on sunday.
        i wonder which rookie smacked the then youngest double back to back champion who saw off the 7 time world champion, best wishes to him. oh, has rosberg been teammates with the 7 time world champion recently?
        the best ever driver to have stepped foot in the sport, hamilton, is about to do things never seen before in the history of the sport. keep your eyes peeled! no crying please.

    2. danny almonte says:

      Can’t remember the last time that Button had the car set up perfectly. If a driver can’t do what Hamilton did in free practice, the team will never realize the potential of the car.

  70. Olivier says:

    It looks like Lewis is going to have 18 consecutive victories … that’s 9 better than Vettel managed last year.

  71. MJSib says:

    Very disappointed with the coverage of the race. When Fernando tried the undercut on Kimi, instead of watching Kimi come out of the pits ahead were shown Ricciardo and Bottas going round in a procession. Then at the end, Rosberg finally gets in the DRS zone, activates his DRS and they choose this moment to cut to Rosberg’s girlfriend

    1. Gaz Boy says:

      Production in Spain has always been somewhat wayward.
      Murray Walker recounts that at the 1978 Spanish GP (at Jarama), the race lasted 100 minutes and half of that was eventual winner Mario Andretti going round in his (beautiful) Lotus 79 all by himself!

      1. mem says:

        yeah all this all races from the past were great stuff doesnt really stand much scrutiny.
        I think people built their view of the past by just reading the monday morning report in the newspaper. Journalists have the talent to make anything sound good if you didn’t witness it yourself.

      2. AlexD says:

        Just like they now call yesterday’s battlen between Hamilton and Rosberg TITANIC. There wasn’t even an attempt to overtake from Rosberg…..

      3. David in Sydney says:

        Some great shots. But they were overused. ROS’ GF features in every race this season though; sure she’s pretty but are they waiting for her to cry because her BF isn’t as fast as HAM?

    2. Yago says:

      Agree, both things amazed me, specially when they cutter to Rosberg girlfriend. I though, what the f…..!

      1. Yago says:


  72. PeterLamy says:

    Let’s be honest here for a second, shall we? This is without a doubt the dullest and most boring F1 season ever. And by far!

    1. AlexD says:

      Bahrain was decent, one of the best races I have seen, but other races were were boring. Today was a tough day for me….It was hard to stay awake, but maybe because I did not get enough of sleep today. Hard to tell….

    2. SteveS says:

      But … the English guy won! And not just any English guy, but HAMILTON!

      1. kenneth chapman says:

        @ steveS…and i wondered what it was that made him special.silly me, he’s a brit. who would’ve thought?

    3. Spanco says:

      The 1963 season was much duller.

    4. hal says:

      No its not. You be honest for a second and I think you will realise why it is dull for you.

      1. Scott says:

        Yes it is. Just like last year, or during one of the particularly dominant Schumacher seasons, of course it’s dull if somebody is driving a car that is untouchable by the rest. The team-mate battle is not really of much interest either given Rosberg’s obvious inferiority to Hamilton. Remember had it not been for the DNF in Australia we’d have been talking 5 straight wins and a 35 point lead already. I suppose a year like this is not unexpected following such a major rule change and can throw up a default world champion, like Jenson Button in 2009, for example. Hopefully next year will be a bit better as the rest catch up. That’s not to deny Hamilton his success, but those who support him should also be honest about why they are enjoying it and not pretend it is exciting.

      2. Hal says:

        I don’t think it’s dull at all compared to last year…you have two team mates really pushing each other. Webber never really pushed Vettel (especially last two WDCs). So I do not agree that this is ‘the dullest and most boring’ season as posted by OP. No one is pretending.

    5. Richard says:

      What planet are you on? Easily the most fascinating formula for some time. I think what you mean is that Red Bull no longer lead so it is boring.

    6. Mike Martin says:

      @ Jonti Wow, what a cheap comment you made there.
      Thankfully we all care about what “poor” Lewis says and does and nobody cares about what you do or say. Who is poor here? You or Lewis?

      If you had to do what Lewis does for only one week you would be crying like a baby at the end of the week.

    7. Ahmed says:

      Raikonnen is considered as a god amongst men in this sport but his only ever WDC was gifted to him at sao paulo in 2007 when massa had to hand over the lead.

      Button was practically retired at th end of 08 but fortunately for him brawn gave him a double diffuser to build a gap in the standings during the first 7 races of the season, thereafter he hardly managed to get on to the podium for the remainder of th season.

      Vettel dominated the sport from 2010-2013…sheer domination that was largely thanks to his aerodynamically advanced car n less competitive team mate.

      At the end of the day, they came out on top because he managed to exploit thr advantage

      My point is this, saying that hamiltons possible triumph won’t be taken seriously is not only cheap but very narrow minded as well. Probably even narrower then kimi and jensons operating window.

  73. Craig says:

    14 cars lapped, 3 of them lapped twice, 2 retirements. It’s just deteriorated to a parade of half a dozen cars sponsors. F1 for 2014 is finished. Todt should simply step down and hand control of F1 over to Ecclestone who looks set to win his court battle. He should replace Todt as soon as humanly possible for the sake of the sport. The FIA doesn’t appear to have any kind of a clue as to the mess they have wrought with this Toyota Prius formula. This isn’t anywhere close to being the pinnacle of the sport any more. Electric cars, artificial passing, now they’re looking set to make artificial noises as well. This formula at the Austin venue will spell the end of F1′s future chances in North America.

    1. aveli says:

      isn’t it ecclestone who ordered the artificial noise and points?

    2. Anil Parmar says:

      The field will close, it’s always the same with new regulations. 1998, 2005,2009…same story.

    3. Hansb says:

      I share quite a lot of your sentiments there, sadly this green direction is choosen and they won’t step away from it anymore.
      One day we will remember the good old v10′s and v12′s, luckily the sound is still to enjoy … Play below video from 0:30s onwards…. @0:50s your ears fall off.

      This domination is not Mercedes fault, they have the best package by a mile or two. The others have been sleeping and it might take quite some time before a more levelled field will be seen.

    4. David in Sydney says:

      I think you should start watching GP2.

      This is F1 at its finest.

  74. Yago says:

    I see people here confusing things regarding Ferrari strategy. The best strategy was a two stopper, a bit more than seven seconds faster than the three stopper. And that is assuming the guy doing the three stopper is able to drive in clean air. Alonso was going to Kimi’s speed for two entire stints, so to switch to a three stopper at that point was clearly a compromise and a handicap. They did it to cover Vettel, and also Alonso wanted to do it because he though he was faster than Kimi, and running in clean air was his only option to overtake him.

    Then, Alonso was able to end ahead not because the last set of soft tyres (which actually where not new) were too much for Kimis hards, but because he was considerably faster with the hard compound than Kimi. Actually I would say much faster, and that was clear to me since practice and qualifying.

    Had Alonso done the two stopper and Kimi the three stopper, Alonso would have beaten Kimi by a bigger margin. It is as simple as that.

    1. Elie says:

      Absolute nonsense..Kimi pulled 2-3 sec on the first stop & was undercut which bought Fernando closer. Kimi managed to pass a back marker – much faster than Fernando & open another 3 sec gap because Kimi was on med &FAwas on hards. Soon as Kimi medium lost grip they brought FA in to change to hards – Kimis next set were used hards compared to FA used Med..BOTH were used Whats your point!-..Of course Kimi was slower on the hards- he spent much more time on them.. & this being the case- They needed to switch Kimi to the faster Mediums first – as he was in front !!- THATS WHY FANS ARE FURIOUS. What we saw today was thst Raikkonen was a faster driver and the only way Fernando could lead was to change strategy and it was abundantly clear that Raikkonen was not advised before it happened

      1. Yago says:

        Wow Elie, you are so confused. When they both got past Grosjean (Kimi needed two atempts while Alonso only one) they were BOTH WITH MEDIUMS. After passing Grosjean, the difference was something about 2.6-7 secs, which alonso reduced to 1.5-6 before pitting, to switch to hard tyres. When Kimi pitted for hards, Alonso’s hards where something like 6-7 laps old, and KIMI WAS MATCHING ALONSO’S TIMES! With tyres 6 LAPS NEWER! That’s being MORE THAN 6 TENTHS A LAP SLOWER with the same compound. Alonso won the battle because he was much faster with hards than Kimi (but yes, Kimi’s drive was amazing in qualifying!) I advice you to rewatch the race with the live timing app and think about what you see. Come on, for the fun of it! It doesn’t matter who was faster, maybe Kimi is faster next race in Monaco!

      2. Elie says:

        I will make it simple:- if Raikkonen had switched to 3 stop after the first stop who do you think would have won race. Given he would know/ and could drive with an extra set as hard as he liked & was in front ( careful you will look really silly how you respond)

        Alonso got under 2s when he knew the undercut was on/ a 3 stop was on and still failed on the first undercut. If they had switched Kimi to a 3 stop – dont you think he would drive differently-? much harder on the last set- he would have won easily.

        I watch every race with the live timing app. But it means nothing if a driver is changed to 3 stop. The strategy changes how a driver drives a race.btw the back marker I was referring to was a Sauber (I think Guiterrez) in the 3 stint).

      3. yugoslavia says:

        Unusually between team-mates, Alonso, who was running behind Raikkonen, was allowed to pit one lap earlier at the first stops, giving him the advantage of fresh rubber while Raikkonen had to complete another lap on his original set. Raikkonen understandably wanted an explanation after the race, but the situation was actually quite simple. Alonso at that point of the race was struggling with his rear tyres and he was asking for a pit stop as his lap times were dropping off. Raikkonen, meanwhile, was slightly slower but his lap times were consistent and he actually improved on his final lap before the pits, which proved to be crucial for him to stay ahead of Alonso after the first stops.

        Alonso again was struggling with his tyres in the second stint and therefore Ferrari opted to switch him to a three-stop strategy as they could see Vettel moving quickly through the field using a pre-planned three-stop. Ultimately their efforts proved to be in vain as the Red Bull was simply much quicker than the Ferrari, but the three-stop strategy gave Alonso fresher rubber to attack Raikkonen at the end. The balance between three- and two-stopping was marginal, but once he was on a three-stop Alonso made it work for him. So far this season Raikkonen has been easier on his tyres, allowing him to stick to the original plan of two-stopping, but on this occasion it didn’t work out. At another track with different compound tyres, the battle may well have swung in favour of Raikkonen.


      4. Yago says:

        “If they had switched Kimi to a 3 stop – dont you think he would drive differently-?”

        You don’t have to wonder. That’s why there exist the optimum strategy. Driving to a delta in a two stopper was more than 7 secs faster for Ferrari (according to their simulations) than driving like hell in a three stopper. So again no, the three stopper would not have helped Kimi I fear.

      5. Yago says:

        Sorry about the back marker, I don’t know why I assumed you were referring to Grosjean.

        “if Raikkonen had switched to 3 stop after the first stop who do you think would have won race.”

        The answer for me is simple: none of them hahaha. No seriously, it is clear that Fernando would have ended ahead of Kimi if Kimi had pitted to cover Vettel, because given Fernando’s and Kimi’s relative pace with the hard compound, Kimi would not have caught Fedrnando at the end when he would have fitted the softs.

        Kimi’s only hope was that both drivers stayed in the same strategy, so he could have kept Fernando behind due to track position gained rightfully in qualifying and at the start.

        So what I am saying is that Ferrari did not screw Kimi’s race, and that Fernando won the duel due to the need to split strategies to cover Vettel. However, if there was not the threat of Vettel, Fernando would have ended ahead anyway, the only thing he had to do is just the oposite than Kimi, as the speed difference between both drivers was bigger than the time difference between the two posible strategies.

      6. Yago says:

        “If they had switched Kimi to a 3 stop – dont you think he would drive differently-?”

        You don’t have to wonder. That’s why there exist the optimum strategy. Driving to a delta in a two stopper was more than 7 secs faster for Ferrari (according to their simulations) than driving like hell in a three stopper. So again no, the three stopper would not have helped Kimi I fear.

    2. ruthvin says:

      im guessing u dint see the race with ur eyes open.. if they really wanted to cover vetel then why dint they do.. fact is they were never going to be able to cover vettel… they wanted to cover massa..and only he was their closest rival..

      1. ruthvin says:

        and aslo if as per u the 2 stopper was fastest then why did everyone who did a 2 stopper lose more positions..,.. any brilliant ideas on that…????

      2. Yago says:

        What are you talking about?? If you are so clever, can you tell me why Rosberg didn’t try a three stop strategy. He was faster than Hamilton, doing a three stop strategy would put him on clear air and with the best strategy. Why didn`t Rosberg do it? Yes, because he and his engeneers are stupid, and you know much more than them.

        If you were clever enough, you could argue that maybe for Mercedes it was better to do a two stopper due to the characteristics of their car or whatever. But Ferrari went to the race knowing the three stopper was 7 secs slower than the two stopper. This comes from Pedro De La Rosa, who’s job is partly to work on the different strategies in the simulator. And this is assuming both drivers run in clear air, which was not the case for Fernando. He switched to a three stopper quite late, which is a big handicap, compared for esample to Vettel who started with the idea of going to three stops.

        You could still argue that the characteristics of the track changed so much that suddenly the three stoper was the best way to go. But they would only know afterwards, so what Alonso did was a gamble and never the optimal thing to do. So you could never talk about favoritism, only maybe say Alonso was lucky.

        But he was not, he was much faster than Kimi with the hard compound, so if they had switched strategies Alonso would still end infront.

        But I am starting to get tyred with all these explanations. What I don’t admit is you calling me a [mod] when all I am doing is analything the race properly. I don’t care if Kimi beats Alonso. The reason of me putting enphasis on all this is that this is full of Kimi [mod] and Alonso [mod] so you people do not analyze things properly. I am a fan of the best, I allways have been, so I am an Alonso (first) and Hamilton (second) fan, and maybe Vettel, time will tell me if he really is up there with the best.

  75. Leslie D'Amico says:

    Last year Alonzo always said the driver he feared most was Hamilton, given a great car we now see why. Great drive by Vettel, maybe my driver of the race, but still a wheel short to the Mercs and the Ferraris maybe another wheel back. This season still has the makings of some great battles if the Bulls and the Prancing Horses sort out a feww things. When was the last time we had so many World Champions and talented up and comers all racing together?

  76. Triangle says:

    Surely by now Lotus must be wondering about taking on Maldonado… all the PDVSA money must be offset by the cost of repairs :S

    P.S. ITV must be kicking themselves! They would have absolutely loved to broadcast Hamilton’s domination…

    1. Grant H says:

      He was on form again today trying to do the “monster truck” move over a caterham lol

    2. Random 79 says:

      Lotus’ conundrum:

      Paid Driver Versus Sure Accidents.

  77. Pawel says:

    All in all we are facing another boring season.
    Mercedes are already 2014 champions and that kills the show.
    F1 heads to nowhere.

    1. Michey says:

      I never understood this. All teams agree to and are handed the same rules and technical guidelines. Mercedes put their best foot forward and because of that, they “kill the show.” How about the other teams not doing enough, some in fact doing very little (McLaren being one such team)? And it’s not just about the engine package otherwise all the Mercedes powered teams would be up there battling the works team. It’s the complete package: power unit/aero/mechanical grip/drivers/team preparation. Just my broader view of things.

      1. Rockie says:

        Yeah and you said this the last four years right?

  78. McHarg123 says:

    I’ve heard rumours that Mercedes might be holding back updates to the car as a result of the huge lead they currently have. The thought that Mercedes might be entertaing the idea is astounding! Scary to be honest!
    Today prooved that catching the Mercs this year is insumaountable.

    1. Grant H says:

      If i was merc and I had a +1 sec advantage I would do exactly that, you phase in the upgrades in a low risk approach ie bring in those u know are certain to work, your not going to take an agressive approach eg like Ferrari at the end of 12 when they were trying to catch seb and where they were just throwing on parts without validating them properly in the tunnel or CFD, makes sense to me

  79. SteveS says:

    The Mercedes W05 already looks like it will give the Mclaren MP4/4 a run for its money in the “most dominant F1 car of all” category. It’s surpassed the 2004 Ferrari.

    None of the Red Bull’s every displayed this level of dominance.

    1. Anil Parmar says:

      None of the Red Bulls came about after a huge rule change, hence the field was closer. The margins between teams and updates were also smaller in those days. The field will get closer, you don’t have to continue with the ‘Red Bull were never this strong’ card.

    2. Richard says:

      It’s not the degree that necessarily matters, it’s the extent, and Newey was capable of out designing other teams. If you have the position you have the position. Other teams particularly Red Bull/Renault will catch up. Not sure about Ferrari/McLaren this year. It will be interesting when Honda comes into the mix next year, but remember all power units can be improved/re-designed come the end of the year.

    3. TurboMuncher says:

      Copied / Pasted from SteveS & Tealeaf archived posts – 2011 – 2013:

      “Something, something, something… It’s up to the other teams to up their game…..”

    4. Mike Martin says:

      “None of the Red Bull’s every displayed this level of dominance.”

      Not even when they won 9 in a row?

  80. mem says:

    kimi has some over excitable fans. the exact opposite of kimi in fact lol.
    IF he has first choice for lap he wants to stop why does the other driver have to stop after?
    alonso decided with his engineer to switch to 3 stops. Do they have to run it past kimi first?

    1. Sri says:

      Was not Kimi not allowed undercut in previous races? So why Alonso was allowed now?

    2. Panya says:

      Lol – that’s a good one

    3. PP says:

      They have to tell him SOMETHING don’t they? And judging from Kimi’s post race comments, they didn’t….

    4. Elie says:

      No they dont. But they have to tell each driver whats going on- same way they would any competitor.

    5. David in Sydney says:

      I agree with you, if ALO and his engineer decide on a different strategy, or plan a secret strategy, then they have an advantage.

      Love Mercedes’ plan of letting HAM and ROS race – seriously race – makes every other team seem unsporting.

      Great for Mercedes’ image, great for ROS and HAM image, great for the fans… just great!

      1. Richard says:

        Yes Mercedes are showing how F1 should be run!

  81. Grant H says:

    Why didnt williams cover off riccardo during first pot stops with bottas, track position is king in spain???

    Also any words on why lewis had 2x slow stops???


    1. Random 79 says:

      Your first question is part of the answer as to why Williams are not where they should be.

    2. kenneth chapman says:

      @ grantH surely bottas has been toilet trained and told to go to the toilet pre race?

    3. David in Sydney says:

      Williams has a history of dodgy strategy and dodgy pitstops.

      Yes, 3 seconds, 4 seconds for car adjustment is VERY SLOW… NOT.

      1. Grant H says:

        If u watched the stops they looked delayed lost about 1.2 sec on the first and about 1.5-2 sec on the second, he only had a small gap to nico, would have made hams job easier, i think and extra 3 seconds is a lot of time to lose

  82. Ahmed says:

    I may be clutching at straws here but is it the beginning of the end for the raging bull?

    Seb made a clear point last year when he won n told the team to enjoy it while it lasts… Prodromu is headed to mclaren, 2 more engineers are headed to mercedes as of june, there has always been speculation tht vettel is headed to ferrari but now it has also emerged tht newey claims he can’t commit to rbr… Maybe thr is truth to vettel being ferrari bound n newey might be considering following him there as well… Your thoughts?

    1. Grant H says:

      Read a rumour that newey met ferrari this weekend

      1. Ahmed says:

        Silly season off to an early kick start lol… I won’t be surprised to see newey leave rbr, he may be looking for a bigger challenge.

    2. HP says:

      do u know which engineers are going to mercedes in june?

      1. Ahmed says:

        I can’t remember the names they had mentioned, it was however anounced shortly after mclaren anounced that prodromu would be joining them (mclaren)

    3. Scott says:

      Why on earth would Vettel want to go to Ferrari?

      1. justafan says:

        Because of the myth.

  83. Matt says:

    So Vettel wins , it’s the car! Hamilton wins, it’s him!!

    I have watched F1 for 35 yrs, the Mercedes is more dominant than any car in that period! 88 Mclaren wasn’t dominant but not two secs a lap, 92 Williams wasn’t that quick.its two secs when they lay boot down, Hamilton stated on front page of Motor Sport end of last year, ‘ I don’t want the fastest car’!! Does he stand by that now? It’s not a race now because an average driver can put that car up front, you can hear the difference on the TV.

    1. james encore says:

      I got out the record book to compare this with Mansell’s Williams of 1992.
      First race, 1:2 / Senna 3rd 45 seconds adrift
      Second race, 1:2 / Schumacher 3rd @ 21 secs
      Third Race 1:2 / Schumacher 3rd & lapped
      Fourth Race 1:2 / Alesi 3rd @ 26 secs
      Fifth race: 1:2 / Senna 3rd @ 49 seconds
      Sixth race Monaco 2:3 (senna won)
      Race 7 2xDNF
      Race 8 1:2 / Brundle 3rd @ 73 seconds
      Race 9 1:2 / Brundle again @ 50 seconds
      Race 10 Mansell won again, Patrese spun, Senna was second only 4 seconds behind
      Race 11 Mansell clinched the championship
      with a second to Senna.
      So that was 8 wins, 2 seconds and a DNF for Mansell and 7 seconds, a 3rd and 3 DNFs for Patrese.

      Hamilton could match Mansell’s five in a row, or 8 out of the first 10. But the gap to Rosberg is lot smaller than the one to Patrese.

      88 when McLaren won 15, Senna won 4 in a row and 8 in total to Prosts 6

      And how short are people’s memories. Who one the last GP of 2013 ? and who won the EIGHT before that. Vettel won NINE in a row, and 13 out of 19 in the season.

      Hamilton wins four and …

      1. Dr Lewis says:

        Tell me about it – I was in the process of putting a post like yours together but started with Clark going through to Vettel.

        Thanks for that – I do hope people take notice and stop with the how terrible it is because one of the greats (who has the best percentage of wins in a none championship car in history by far) has won four in a row where in two of them his team mate was just a second or two behind him.

        Compared to 11/12/13 and the red bull years even if people have only watched since then – its nothing like domination.

        Its ridiculous

      2. james encore says:

        Exactly. To save people looking it up from 94 to 2003 7 of the 10 seasons the champion won 8 or more races, and the team won at least half the races. (Including Ferrari winning 10 in a row in 2002)
        From 2004 to 2013 it was only 3 of the 10 seasons. (Schumacher won 13 in Barichello 2 more for Ferrari in 04 -Ferrari started with 5 wins in a row and then won another 7 in row…
        Vettel won 11 and Webber 1 in 2011, and won 13 in 2013. Braun only managed 8 out 17 wins).

        That’s 10 times in the last 20.
        If you go back to the 10 years before that, you have the dominant McLaren of 88, Williams of 87,92,93 and that’s just the ones I don’t need to look up. The 2005-2010 spell with the wins being more widely shared is the aberration , not the norm.

        And of drivers who have only won one champtionship only Nigel Mansell has race wins than Lewis.

    2. Grant H says:

      Hes consistently beating nico in same machine, yes f1 will always be 80% machine, 10% team and 10% driver but the best drivers will find those extra few tenths, even Lewis himself gas admitted that

    3. Anil Parmar says:

      Vettel wasn’t having to push most times as webber was poor. Watch todays race and watch Bahrain..fantastic racing and Lewis deserved the win ahead of Rosberg.

      1. justafan says:

        Webber was never poor!

      2. KRB says:

        Sure he was! He never got to terms with the new Pirelli’s, and couldn’t get over his natural driving instincts, that he needed to (and which Vettel did), to get the most out of the RBR’s and the EBD.

    4. grat says:

      Vettel won with the fastest car, and a teammate that couldn’t challenge him most of the time.

      Hamilton is winning despite a teammate who can drive the car just as fast, and has twice wound up on a better tire strategy.

      Hamilton is driving smarter than Rosberg, not just faster.

    5. Torchwood Five says:

      With the complexity of those steering wheels, and the sheer number of comments that the new cars are no longer running on rails, or as Scalextrix as previous years, I think it highly unlikely that “average drivers” could “put that car up front”.

    6. AlexD says:

      In both cases it is the driver in the car. Neither would have won without the dominant car

    7. David in Sydney says:

      Blame Ferrari and Renault. Oh, and frozen engine rules.

      1. Matt says:

        Before engines rules were frozen they were made to produce same hp and regulated to that, having 70hp disadvantage will never be clawed back no matter how good the car. To gain 100m on chinese straight is unbelievable,DRS passes are getting too easy, Vettels passes yesterday were proper overtakes not with push button drive by. In Canada all Mercs will be uncatchable. After all these years my interest is waning as its becoming false, F1 should be about noise, theatre, speed ultimate push to limit every lap, not Le Mans style endurance and fuel economy. Have fire breathing turbos like the 80′s,1500hp quali engines!!! Wow that was amazing!!

    8. Richard says:

      Race position however is more in the hands of the driver than the designer in the new formula. Don’t blame Mercedes that Renault dropped the ball! I think however that because the differential is power unit lead other teams will catch up albeit slowly. In the last few years aero lead formula, aero work had becaome a bit of a black art lead by Newey’s excellent team. In the end the degree of advantage does not matter greatly as if you have the position then you get the points. Whilst Mercedes may run away with it this year they will be caught for next, but Newey’s aero team always managed to out design other teams and would have carried on doing so.

    9. Paul D says:

      Not sure.

      In 92 Mansell was sometimes 2 seconds quicker than Patrese in the sister car and 3 seconds faster than Senna in 3rd….

      Probably says more about Mansell’s brilliance though in the active ride car.

    10. bking says:

      Hamilton stated on front page of Motor Sport end of last year, ‘ I don’t want the fastest car’!! Does he stand by that now?

      Last year there was no double points system. Took him 3 wins to cover a DNF. So yea I guess he’s not sticking with that.

      Don’t forget, Vettel was driving off to the sunset alone. This year its Lewis and Nico at the front, it could change hands in Abu Dhabi with this stupid double points.

  84. John says:

    Boring! The cars are way below where they should be. I am not clear what does F1 stand for right now? LET ME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION: IF YOU WOULD HAVE 500KEURO TO SPEND ON A CAR, AND YOU CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN A GREEN, QUIET AND NOT SO FAST CAR, A CAR THAT NOT MANY WOULD NOTICE ON THE STREET, OR A NOISY BEAST THAT HAS GOT PLENTY OF POWER AND SPEED, A CAR THAT WILL TURN HEADS ON THE STREET, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU CHOOSE? F1 is right now very expensive and not so interesting (sorry Merceds/Lewis/Nico fans).

    1. james encore says:

      Very few 500K cars are sold every year; Mercedes can sell a lot of C & E class cars to company car drivers if they if they have lower CO2. Renault don’t make a 500K car; McLaren’s hyper car is a hybrid. Porsche can sell you a car which has zero CO2 for the urban cycle. To answer your question F1 is trying to solve the same problem as the rest of the auto industry: how to get much the same power we’ve been used to from a lot less fuel.

      I’m liking the noise. Watching the on-car channel which the BBC put on the web you can hear the sound of the cars bumping over the kerbs – you could hear which ones in Barcelona were smooth and which were serrated. The noise of previous years was wasted energy. The engines drop down below 6000 revs because with the MGU/H is both a turbo driven generator and a supercharger, so they can get Power without the scream. Surplus turbo pressure isn’t vented out of a waste gate but drives the MGU/H (quieter) and gasses come out with a lot less energy.

      Besides in a road car, less noise is a good thing.

      Don’t forget that these cars have more power than last year’s, and are hitting higher top speeds, but they have less down force so the lap times are slower. The drop from 3.0 to 2.5 litre changes to tyres and reductions in down-force means lap records haven’t come down in years. (In Sepang I noticed Montoya still holds the lap record from 2004, Baracello set the Monaco lap record in 2002)

      There is one thing which I don’t like which limits these cars, but the alternative is too dangerous. These turbos (especially as they have an ‘electric supercharger’ mode) can force huge amounts of fuel into the engine (eventually you’d destroy the engine or gearbox or shred the tyres). Without the 100KG/hr flow limit cars could have a short-use “warp drive” which would give dangerous speed differences. With the turbo the cars can burn fuel at 100KG/hr without going to full revs.

    2. Random 79 says:

      Depends on what you plan to be doing with your car on the street.

      I could think of one or two advantages to having a quieter engine ;)

    3. Pkara says:

      There’s always Lawn Mower Racing for you.
      Load engines plenty of hay barriers & the Fly Mows hug the edges & turn on a penny:D
      On a serious not…
      Do agree with the noise of the cars & the requirement of fuel saving:). Should be a roaring banshee wail of a V12

    4. ferddy07 says:

      Well then, feel free to go watch something else!

    5. Bart says:

      Real life is different from racing, isn’t it…
      I would spend around 20k on the car and invest the rest for my daughter’s future. Cheers, Bart

      1. John says:

        Hi Bart, thanks for getting involved, but this doesn’t really answer my question. Does it?

      2. Bart says:

        Well, my point is you can’t compare a road car one uses everyday to move from one place to another (mainly home-work-supermarket-home) to a sport that is supposed to provide entertainment. In real life I would choose the “green” option. As far as entertainment is concerned, the more noise and power, the more fun (and more exhaust gases). However, given what’s happening to our climate the “green” engines might not be such a nonesense decision…

    6. David in Sydney says:

      They are as fast as last years’ cars.

      The slower teams are *almost* as slow as GP2 cars.

      These cars are what F1 should be. Fantastic racing this year – not in the whacky races style of exploding tyre racing (ahem) but adult, smart, tech savvy racing.

      I am enjoying this season a lot more than the last two.

      1. Richard says:

        I think the argument about whether hybrid technology should be used on a racing car is a seperate issue, and whilst one should quantify what one means, this years cars are not as fast as last years on medium to high speed bends. – They lack the downforce do this! They are certainly capable of faster running on the straights when engine and recovered energy is being used. On the whole though I agree the tyres are more sensible, and race positions are being determined more by driver skill than designer skill, like you I’m enjoying it!

      2. Matt says:

        GP2 would actually qualify up the grid, a shame!! It should be flat out on the limit racing , be like a mx race where they dont jump but roll over bumps

      3. John says:

        David-in-Sydney, let see some statistics of the fastest laps:
        Australia: 1:24.125 (2004) – 1:29.274 (2013) – 1:32.478 (2014)
        Malaysia: 1:34.223 (2004) – 1:39.199 (2013) – 1:43.066 (2014)
        Bahrain: 1:31.447 (2005) – 1:36.961 (2013) – 1:37.020 (2014)
        China: 1:32.238 (2004) – 1:36.808 (2013) – 1:40.402 (2014)
        Spain: 1:21.670 (2008) – 1:26.217 (2013) – 1:28.918 (2014)
        The cars are not as fast as last year’s cars, maybe it is due to tyres, but the fact is that the lap times have steadily gone up.

      4. David in Sydney says:

        Are you an actuary?

        Look at speed trap speeds 2014 vs 2013 and I think you’ll find speeds are faster this year – the fact that drivers have to drive the cars more and post slower lap times (sometimes) is, I think, in support of the racing element of F1 2014 style.

        Imagine if the teams had louder cars at the beginning of the year – I wonder if people would be complaining so much?

        If you think F1 if poorer for slower lap times that I suggest, based on your figures, you should have stopped watching F1 in 2004.

        Do I miss the V10s? YES!

        Do I think F1 is poorer for dodgy noses, hybrid engines and less downforce? NO!

      5. james encore says:

        It’s mostly due to Aero. The cars are faster through the speed traps, but no blown diffuser, no beam wing at the rear, they’re slower round the corners.
        A lot of lap records were set in 2004 and Monaco in 2002. IIRC.

  85. james encore says:

    I’m looking forward to the UBS sponsored strategy de-brief on Merc.

    It seemed to me at the time putting ROS on the harder tyre at the first stop gave them a chance to see if it worked or if it lost > 1 sec per lap. In that case getting off it, and running 3 stops would be the way to go [20 laps soft, short stint on hards, two goes on softs (even if not new) ]. It wasn’t much slower as it turned out. So to me it would seem an advantage to have the harder tyre earlier when the car is heavy, and run the soft at the end when it is light. So soft-hard-soft is better than soft-soft-hard – especially when Hamilton spent more time in the puts (why ? didn’t seem any clear reasons).

  86. Grant H says:

    What basis do use to conclude nico is not also a world class driver?

  87. Michael Spitale says:

    Felt like Ferrari let a gaurenteed 5th, perhaps even 4th place slip by just to make sure Alonso beat Kimi in the end. If they had put Kimi on a 3 stopped too he would have still had his 2 seconds in hand as well as fresh medium rubber at the end. He can then most likely not get eaten up by Vettel, as well as make a run at Bottas on very old rubber.

    This weekend left some egg on the faces of Alonso/Ferrari.

  88. Phil W says:

    A boring race, but not really the fault of the Formula – Catalunya has always been a dire track for racing (unless it rains) Long sweeping corners do not make for good races. Would really love F1 to try and find a better track in Spain.

    In fact, a lot of the ‘classic’ european tracks are pretty duff. Monza, Spa and Hockenheim only really made sense when F1 was far more dangerous. They were a test of courage and bravery as much as anything else. Spa is still okay but Eau Rouge is not what it once was and the Bus Stop section has been ruined.

    Monaco next up should be pretty interesting, I’m expecting Vettel to be right up there challenging for the win.

  89. Jez Playense says:

    Whya re Macca doing so badly even witha Merc engine. Really sad…

    I think Kimi was screwed over for sponsor and local fans, but James I hope your report will make that clear one way or another.

    Vettel seemed to be getting back to where I expected him to be. RB will win a race this season. Though maybe they will win it with Riccardo as well?

  90. chris green says:

    john – the new f1 cars aren’t green. it’s just another lie perpetrated by the motor manufacturers.

    in some of the in-car footage of hamilton, the engine sounds just like a truck. low revving, with the drivers short shifting. it’s pathetic.

    the cars take way too long to repair. if there is a problem with a car on friday you may not see it on sunday. it’d not good enough.

    even after a handfull of laps drivers are being told not to lean on the tyres. this is not f1.

    1. David in Sydney says:

      So I suppose Fangio nursing a car’s fuel and tyres wasn’t F1, either?

  91. Fernando Cruz says:

    Hamilton deserved to be leading the championship with a bigger margin. If it wasn’t for the mechanical failure in Australia probably he would have 5 wins to 0 and 125 points to 90. It took him 4 races to recover the lead, which i think is unfair. Maybe the system used in 1988 was better. As it is now, with a championship battle between team mates (just like in 1988), luck can play an important role. I think we all want the best driver to win the championship, not the luckiest…

    1. David in Sydney says:

      Mechanical gremlins are part of F1; indeed all of motor sport.

      To finish first, first you have to finish.

  92. Rohan says:

    All you people commenting on how ‘boring’ the season is due to Mercedes’ dominance are getting old very quickly. My response to you is this: 1988, MP4/4. 15 out of 16 wins/poles. 10-15 years down the road, we will all talk about this season/W05 with the same hushed tones and reverence that that season/MP4/4 has been afforded (and rightly so). Despite that domination, the 1988 season is considered among the best because the drivers were evenly matched (unlike say the 2002 or 2004 season where one team/driver dominated).

    Let’s give credit where credit is due: Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull, McLaren (I’m only referring to these 4 because they have similar budgets) all had the same chance and opportunity with the new regs and Mercedes have well and truly cracked it. As it stands, the season is still even (only 3 points separate P1/2). 14 races to go, anything can and will happen between the Mercs before it is all done and dusted (maybe a hairline split in the side of a rubber tube could be the difference).

    I’m not equating the Lewis/Nico partnership to Prost/Senna (very different dynamics), but it has proved interesting and exciting (IMO) so far, and can only get better if Nico keeps getting trumped (or even better yet, if Nico goes on a 2/3 win streak and Lewis then has to dig deep). I’m looking forward to the rest of the season. Bring it on!

    1. aveli says:

      it’s not the mercedes dominance they don’t like, they’re just hiding behind that. it’s something else they’re ashamed of expressing as they’re fully aware is unacceptable these days. not many responded in the past while other cars dominated. enjoy, bitter as it may be.

  93. Darcy says:

    I’m confused by the suggestion early in the article that Mercedes have increased their lead over their rivals. Surely at least that doesn’t apply to RED BULL.
    48 seconds in a 66 lap race might seem a lot, but there was no safety car, Ricardo was held up quite a lot by Bottas, then in the last stint when he clearly had a 3rd place result pretty well locked in, he was well ahead of the Williams and had no chance of catching the Mercs, so it wouldn’t have made any sense to push 100 percent considering the engine and gearbox replacement limitations.
    Also the two Mercs were doing their best and for most of the race I don’t think they were holding one another up.

    On these results I can’t help thinking that Red Bull might be inside half a second a lap. Still a big gap but apparently heading in the right direction.

    1. James Allen says:

      1 second in qualifying..

      1. Rockie says:

        Maybe if Vettel had a chance might have been diff

      2. justafan says:


  94. W Head says:

    The way this season is going Hamilton will win everything and get booed for doing so just like Vettel last year.

    I think it is embarrassing that the GP2 cars sound better? Any news of the meeting that happened over the weekend for this issue?

    1. aveli says:

      hamilton will never get booed!

      1. justafan says:


      2. aveli says:

        think about all the reasons a driver will get booed and you’ll realise that hamilton doesn’t behave in a manner which results in him being booed at. he has always asked for fairness at every team he has been at and never tries to win unfairly. he also doesn’t refuse to follow instructions from the pitwall. these are the reasons i say he will never be booed. she ached got booed for calling for barrichello to allow him to win and vettel got booed for refusing to follow team orders. even if he wins every race he will not get booed. prompt me if he ever does.

    2. bking says:

      Vettel was booed because of the Multi 21

  95. Sri says:

    I told it long time ago that Kimi cannot beat Alonso in Ferrari as he has to not only out-drive but also drive such a way that even a better strategy for Alonso would not allow Alonso to go ahead. If it were Lotus, the focus will be on Kimi and he would have a good strategy to beat Alonso, but in Ferrari it would be difficult. In earlier races, Kimi was not allowed to undercut when he was right behind Alonso, but it was the opposite totday. I was laughed and ridiculed by Alonso fans when I suggested this handicap for Kimi, but today they still deny this fact by bringing some lame excuses.

    1. aveli says:

      let the racing go on till november.

  96. Peter W says:

    Two things:
    Firstly, if the Mercedes PU is that much better than the Renault and Ferrari, than how badly are Williams, McLaren and Force India underperforming?

    Secondly, At Mercedes, we could hear the instructions given to their drivers to make their respective (and different) strategies work to beat their team mate. Top marks to Mercedes for this. But the engineers for the Ferrari drivers come up with different strategies and suddenly it’s a massive favouritism conspiracy???? I think some people need to have a good lie down!

    1. Elie says:

      Do you think Raikkonen would not have wanted to come in after FA tried the under cut and failed. Did you hear Raikkonen ask the team whos call it was on the strategy.. Wake up sunshine!!

      1. Peter W says:

        Ha ha, good one….yes, lets all “wake up” and base all of our knowledge on the emotional reactions of drivers in highly stressful situations.
        My point is that strategy is not a black and white game. Any decision made can have unexpected consequences, or the team might not quite get it right. Even at Mercedes, where Rosberg’s strategy was very clear, the guys on the pit wall did not quite pull it off due to the influence of traffic and the change in the delta between tyre compound lap times as the race wore on.

      2. Elie says:

        Do you understand that Mercedes dont have the tyre degradation issues of Ferrari or anyone else for that matter) James has already explained this.. Shall we compare apples and bananas or do you want to keep sleep talking

    2. Dr Lewis says:


      Its hardly all the engine and a Renault issue.

      Merc have produced a fantastic car.

      Give them some credit!

    3. puffing says:

      Well said, good remark!

  97. Timmay says:

    Mercedes 2014 is the best F1 car of all time and I’m sleepy now, k thanx bye

  98. JohnBt says:

    Boring race until the last 5 laps.

    Vettel gets my vote for DOTD. Just thinking the way he stormed up to forth and what would’ve had happen if he started on the second row, would Vettel have challenged Lewis.

    Ferrari is a joke, how embarrassing hiring two of the best drivers to get their credentials lowered to this level. Feel so gutted for Kimi and Alonso. Just three seconds more and Alonso would have been lapped too.

    The cars looked so slow except for Vettel charging, he stood out like he was going to miss his flight to Mars or something like that.

    Give the race a 6/10 at best.

    Sure hope Monaco brings us closer racing!

  99. JohnBt says:

    Oh yes, the TV director should be sacked! How does showing Nico’s girlfriend help in the sport when Nico was chasing down Hamilton. My god is F1 going to be some girly imagery to promote F1. Good lord it’s really getting from bad to worse. This is not an idol show.

    1. Andrew says:

      Absolutely agree, i’m sick of these voyeuristic lingering shots of girlfriends in the garages, particularly when there is on track action.

      I was even more annoyed when the director completely missed the battle between Alonso and Raikkonen after the first round of pitstops.

  100. Anand R says:

    James, can you please provide some insight into the curious case of Mclaren! What is wrong, even Ferrari look the best of the rest behind Merc and RBR. Mclaren are behind Force India and Williams (and Ferrari).

  101. AlexD says:

    Have you seen who won the Eurovision? What kind of sense you want to find in this world?!

    1. Dr Lewis says:

      Errr – no?

      Who did?

  102. Garry says:

    RED BULL are back the big news to come out of this race is that the red bull in the hands of Vettle was quicker over the second part of the race compered to a pair of flat out Mercedes. Mark my words this championship is far from over

    1. Gary says:

      Vettel was on a three-stop so of course he was quicker at the end.

    2. Ahmed says:

      Extra tyres from qualy, different strategy.

  103. Nator says:

    Was a boring race, but still a pretty good one. Vettel’s drive was fantastic. He owned Turn 10. I’d actually be curious how many passes he made there if anyone knows, be 5 or 6 at least. We’ll done Ricciardo on first genuine podium, plenty more to come mate. The post race was interesting, I always love how they walk past each other pretending to look the other way. I was thinking Hamilton came across a bit more uptight than usual when in the cool down area, but then I noticed him joking around with Dan, so I reckon Lewis was preoccupied putting on his front for Nico. On Nico, did anyone notice him spray the champez right in Lewis’s eyes, like cop this biaatch.

  104. hal says:

    Congratulations to Hamilton. Respect to Nico for giving a good fight. Nice to see two team mates allowed to race – although it must be hard for a team to compete so hard amongst themselves.

  105. Phenom says:

    Mercedes deserve absolutely everything they now have, firstly they are a manufacturer who came into the sport as others left. They have pumped a lot of money into the sport, they brought us another few seasons of Michael Schumacher which nomatter how it turned out, we should be thankful for in light of recent events. They allow their drivers to race and they have designed a rocketship this year without ‘flexing’ the rules and manipulating the rulemakers to get their way bar the ‘secret test’ which was admittedly, not right but amounted to little in the end as RB benefitted from the midseason tyre the most.

    Bravo Mercedes!

    1. Richard says:

      Amen to that!

    2. Dutch johhny says:

      Well said. They just done superb job. Only thing i regret is that schumi cant see this sadly.. Who would have thought this two season ago?

      1. aveli says:

        he will see it all later.

    3. David in Sydney says:


    4. C63 says:

      Good post

  106. Richard says:

    Whilst Vettel’s recovery form 15th to 4th looked and sounds impressive one has to take into account they were all slower cars, however Hamilton’s defensive win over Rosberg was much harder work with an inappropriately set up car. Hamilton is easily the driver of the day.

    1. Timmay says:

      Really? How strange that he would overtake slower cars and not somehow manage to pass ones that were going faster

      1. Richard says:

        Maybe you hadn’t noticed, but the Red Bull car has top class aero, and is second to Mercedes overall. – Therefore all the remaining cars are slower. – Penny drop now?

      2. aveli says:

        set the fastest lap of the race.

  107. German Samurai says:

    Driver of the race Vettel. He really made his critics eat their words with that performance. How about those passes considering his top speed disadvantage? Incredible.

    I think Kimi got the kind of pit strategy that Ferrari used to give to Massa LOL.

    Underwhelming performance by Hamilton. Panicking on the radio throughout the race. It was as though he believed the team was sabotaging him. Was panicking on the radio in Q1 on Saturday too.

    We’re only 5 races in, Hamilton’s done everything asked of him with 4 race wins (albeit 2 of those race wins were unconvincing with Rosberg having better race pace throughout), yet he’s only 3 points up in the championship.

    There’s 14 long, long, long races to go with double points on offer for the last race. It’s all there for Hamilton to lose. If he beats Rosberg it proves nothing we didn’t know–that Hamilton is the better driver. If Hamilton doesn’t beat Rosberg it tarnishes his legacy. Rosberg is not a top tier driver like Vettel or Hamilton.

    Rosberg looked happier on the podium. Not happy with the result, but happier and there was a quiet confidence.

    I don’t think Rosberg needs to change too much at this time. History has shown that Hamilton is weak mentally and fragile emotionally. There is always drama in his life.

    Let the pressure of this championship build for a little longer then start giving Hamilton the needle. Rosberg needs to get it in Hamilton’s head that he has nothing to lose and Hamilton has everything to lose.

    1. Damon says:

      That underwhelming performance gave him the win, he’s performed much better this year than your star man Vettel who’s been dominated by Ricciardo..

      Vettel has clearly got the second best car so it wasn’t an epic drive by any means, Bottas was the star of the weekend for sure.

      Usuall rubbish being spouted here, where has history shown that Hamilton is mentally weak?? Please don’t say 2007 because it was the incompetent team that cost him the title!

    2. Ahmed says:

      I’m a little confused, in one sentence you state that hamilton is a top tier driver alongside seb the great and thn u go on to say that hamilton is mentally and emotionally weak. Surely these are key aspects to be considered a top tier driver. Your prejudice seems to be contradicting urself mate.

    3. Gazza says:

      “Rosberg looked happier on the podium. Not happy with the result, but happier and there was a quiet confidence.”


      What planet are you on man.

      Mind you, its on the same blinkered level as the rest of your mutterings.

    4. aveli says:

      racing is all about panicking! especially when it’s not when other factors out of your hands are involved.

      1. brendan says:

        why would a f1 racing driver panic? do they say ohh no am going to fast? their heart rate will increase due to adrenaline,and the stress on the body… am sure in a race it will level out.. how many racing drivers have died in a car due to a heart attack?
        a racing driver has to me cool.. you not seen kimi or lewis or Alonso/ vettel drive?
        heard some rubbish in my time..

      2. aveli says:

        i am confused, please help me out. what courses heart attacks? i can promise you that those drivers who go for a leisurely drive around the track do not win races but those who panic win. evidence, 2014 catalonian grand prix on sunday. i also thought adrenaline was produce she you panic, to prepare the body for flight or fight. please help me, am i confused? you should be looking at faults with the other drivers who didn’t win after all they are the ones who didn’t do the right things to win. he may ‘sound stressed on the radio’ so long as that makes him win. winning is all that matters isn’t it?
        by the end of the season you will find out just why hamilton is the best driver to have stepped foot in the history of the sport.

      3. aveli says:

        here’s a bit for you to think about.
        it is not by those who move confidently that the race is won…..it is so often won by those who move deliberately, almost tremblingly!

    5. aveli says:

      have a look at how high the drivers heart rate increases and you may understand that racing is all about panicking!

    6. brendan says:

      nico had the faster car again, and couldn’t beat lewis… nico needs to change the fact, that lewis is beating him in every race..
      the only pressure lewis has,is to beat his team mate.. what pressure is that?
      nico has to get inside his head? I think he has to get into in car ,make sure it breaks down, that’s the only way nico is going to win a race ,this season..
      I said races ago, nico better get used to being 2nd..
      this maybe the easiest championship lewis will win.. rest of the teams are rubbish.. his team mate loves finishing 2nd..

      1. German Samurai says:

        The fact is Rosberg needs to either get pole or beat Hamilton off the line for once. I think Hamilton is 4/4 in getting to the first corner in front.

        Rosberg caught him in the first stint, but being on the alternate strategy he was never going to get another chance at Hamilton until late in the race.

      2. aveli says:

        it is not by those who move confidently that the race is won…..it is so often won by those who move deliberately, almost tremblingly!

      3. KRB says:

        Well apparently Lewis was practicing starts today, to help Nico, b/c Nico complained about his.

        If Merc wanted to neuter Nico, they would’ve kept them on the same strategy. Splitting the strategies gave Nico a chance, a chance he couldn’t take.

        Y’know who’s driving with zero pressure right now? Ricciardo. He’s been one of the drivers of the season so far, should be 3rd by right w/o the team screw-ups. The journeyman driver, onto his 3rd team.

    7. SaScha says:

      @GermaSamurai wishful thinking from you, nothing more

  108. Dufus says:

    The most boring race this year so far…. I went to bed after 30 laps as the result was done and dusted. We deserve more than this.

    1. TimW says:

      if you had stayed awake till lap 50 you would have found out the result was far from done and dusted. F1 deseves more from its “fans”

    2. Gary says:


      uh, never mind, no reply required

  109. Ben says:

    James who is the equalivent of Adrian Newey at Mercedes and would you please do a profile of him.

    1. Bru72 says:

      Aldo Costa designed this years Mercedes, and what a stunning job he has done. He is much more hands on than Newey, who is more of a conductor rather than a designer these days.

  110. Egal says:

    It’s a shame that all the forums get taken up with tribalism, jingoism and “he’s useless”, “my man is the best” etc etc.

    F1 has changed, it is and always was a changing formula. 2014 is no different.

    What is different so far this year, is that finally, after a long time, we are seeing cars come in together. Merc 1&2, RB 3&4, F 6&7, FI 9&10, McL 11&12, Sauber 16&17, Maru 18&19, Cat 20&21.

    As long as the teams allow racing between their drivers this will shape up to be an epic year of inter-team racing – as it should be.

    1. German Samurai says:

      I thought it was a good race too. Shanghai was a snoozer, this was a good one because it was a tight battle at the front. Cars looked slow and sounded horrible though.

      Even if it was a forgone conclusion at the front, you had Vettel turning his season around and sticking it to his critics with his charge through the field, you had the close battle between Ferrari teammates, Perez getting the better of Hulkenberg which Hulkenberg needs to rectify if he wants a top drive, Bottas making Massa look terrible.

      Anyone bored by that isn’t a real F1 fan.

    2. KRB says:

      Hmm, quite a ‘Noah’s Ark’ kind of race then. Good spot.

      I think you mean intra-team racing. We need some more inter-team racing though too.

  111. Monza 71 says:

    It should be clear to everyone now that Hamilton is supremely fast : Rosberg is a very quick driver but he clearly can’t quite match Lewis, even when his car is slightly better set up.

    Many respected journos have been saying for a couple of years at least that Lewis is probably the fastest current driver over a single lap. He’s also demonstrating this year that he’s very good at tyre and engine management and race strategy.

    Like Alonso but unlike Vettel and Button, to name but two, Hamilton also has the gift of being able to drive round car problems and extract 110% from the machinery.

    If Lewis does win the title this year, he will thoroughly deserve it : it will not be a walk over because he has a very fast team mate in Rosberg who will chase him hard all the way.

    I’m really looking forward to Monaco :

    Why on earth is the race not on the BBC this year ? Shame on them.

    1. German Samurai says:

      “Like Alonso but unlike Vettel and Button, to name but two, Hamilton also has the gift of being able to drive round car problems and extract 110% from the machinery.”

      What happened in 2011 when Button adapted his driving style quicker than Hamilton?

      What happened in 2007 when the rookie adapted better than Alonso?

      I have trouble believing Hamilton is at the level of Jim Clark when in 2/4 wins he had slower race pace than his journeyman teammate Rosberg. He should be destroying Rosberg like Vettel destroyed Webber.

      1. Monza 71 says:

        In my view, Hamilton and Alonso are probably the best at driving round car problems at the moment.

        I think you underestimate Rosberg : He outpaced Michael Schumacher and is very close to Hamilton in identical machinery.

        I think that, like most F1 fans you fail to appreciate and take on board the skill required to drive these cars flat out.

        The fact that Rosberg was just .168 of a second behind Hamilton in an 85 second lap demonstrates the immense skill of both drivers.

        Hamilton is clearly the faster driver at the moment but the margins between these two teammates are miniscule.

        In Spain he was actually only 0.2% slower, that’s not 2% but just 2 tenths of one percent slower !

        He is most definitely not a “Journeyman” as you suggest.

      2. Rockie says:

        Rosberg beating a 43yr old is great but Vettel beating a 36yr old is nothing interesting.

      3. German Samurai says:

        “I think you underestimate Rosberg : He outpaced Michael Schumacher and is very close to Hamilton in identical machinery.”

        Rosberg is a solid driver. At the Mark Webber level. Nothing wrong with that. He’s not top tier though.

        In 2012 in races where both drivers finished Schumacher had the edge on Rosberg. The points difference in 2012 was due to Schumacher’s awful luck.

        A 43-year-old had slightly better pace than Rosberg in 2012.

        When Schumacher came back into the sport he was 41 and had been retired for 3 seasons. Age had already diminished his incredible skills. 3 years sitting on pit wall dulled his skills further.

        I’d love to see Hamilton sit out of the sport for 3 years, racing the odd go-kart and motorcycle, then try to make a comeback at the highest level of motorsport. He’d struggle at 31 to compete again let alone 41!

      4. Monza 71 says:

        I simply can’t accept what you are saying.

        If Rosberg can consistently race so close to Hamilton he simply has to be a top flight driver.

        Remember, Lewis has admitted that in the last two races Rosberg was actually quicker !

        Hamilton’s pole time in Spain was just 2 tenths of one percent faster than Rosberg’s best time !

        Faced with a teammate acknowledged to be the fastest of all on a single lap, what more does the poor guy have to do ?

      5. aveli says:

        best conclusions about this season will be done at the end of the season when all the results will be taken in account. then some may begin to understand why hamilton is the best driver to have stepped foot in the sport. it may take others a bit longer to understand.

      6. Yago says:

        Of course Rosberg is better than Webber, no question about that. A big difference there.

      7. Dr Lewis says:

        Here is one fact you cannot argue against Samurai

        A measure of a great is taking wins in non championship cars.

        Who in the history of the sport has scored most wins in a non Championship winning car?

        Shumi with 32

        Who is second with 22 – why Lewis H!

        And who when expressed as a percentage of races entered is head and shoulders above all?

        What’s more LH has had other champions as team mates…

        You might want to check the other names below him on that list.

        Far below him.

      8. German Samurai says:

        Well of course. He’s had competitive cars since he’s been in F1 yet only has one championship to his name. Schumacher took his opportunities to win championships.

        Hamilton has 26 wins, so that’s 21 non-championship wins. Plus if he wins this season you can discount all the wins from this season too.

        He won 5 races when he won unconvincingly in 2008 against Massa–who won 6 races.

        That’s Hamilton’s claim to fame. Beating Massa on the last corner in 2008 and beating Rosberg in 2014 in the most dominant F1 car of all time.

      9. KRB says:

        There’s a difference between race-winning cars, and title-winning cars. He had the latter in 2007 and 2008. In 2007 he was a rookie, teammate to the reigning 2xDWC, with another team with an equally good car. Any reasonable person wouldn’t expect a title from Lewis given all those factors. The surprise was that he was even in with a chance at the end.

        In 2008, he won the title against a better car (the 2008 Ferrari). Ferrari made enough mistakes to let Hamilton thru the door. Tough luck for them.

        In 2009 Vettel had a car that was capable of taking the title, had he not made a lot of mistakes. Plus when it was crunch time, to be dominated by Webber at the Nurburgring, that’s a race he has to win.

        From 2010-13, Vettel’s always had the outright best car.

        Lewis finally gets the outright best car this year, and you’re put out. Enjoy the success and good fortune that the RBR/VET combo had for the last 4 years, and give the sad sack whining a rest.

      10. Dr Lewis says:


        Think about what your saying – and stop doing what you accuse others of – stretching facts.

        Race winning and constructors title winning cars are very different beasts. Hamilton has never until this year had a title (championship winning) car. And it’s not won yet.

        In other words his win rate stands as the highest in a car not good enough for a constructor championship title in history vs races entered even if you assume the 2007 car was not banned from the title. That is hugely impressive like it or not.

        Further for most of his career his teammates have been champions unlike your heroes. Making the cars he has driven even worse for the constructors title lack and his wins more impressive

        Your greats cannot ever match that.

      11. German Samurai says:

        2013 he had the best car going into the mid-season break, the Mercedes had quite a few poles.

        2012 he had the fastest car in the field but it lacked the reliability of the Ferrari and McLaren shot themselves in the foot over and over. Good enough for a bag of wins still.

        2011 he had a car capable of 4-5 wins.

        2010 he had a car that he was able to contend in the championship with. He was only 9 points behind Vettel going into final round. He was only marginally better than Button.

        2009 it was Brawn’s all the way because of their liberal interpretation of the rules.

        No excuse for not winning the championship 2007 and 2008.

        As you see he’s either had a car that he can compete for the championship with or one good enough for 3-6 wins a season. His worst car was 2009, but that was an unusual season because of the regulation changes.

        You’re revising history if you think he hasn’t had competitive cars throughout his career.

      12. KRB says:

        You’re saying the Merc was the best car at mid-season?!? You have truly lost the plot if you really believe that!!! There is not one race (maybe Monaco) where Lewis would not have swapped cars with Vettel in a NY second, in 2013!!

        2009 Vettel could have won. He finished 11 pts back, which he EASILY could’ve made up by cutting out his mistakes in AUS, MON, and SIN (there were others beside that too). Let’s just say Alonso or Hamilton would’ve won in the RB5. Button pwned Vettel on a number of occasions that year … Turkey stands out for one.


        Here’s the write-up after SIN09 …makes for interesting reading. :-)

        When you’re in a hole with a shovel …

      13. Davej says:

        You miss out one subtle detail there. When Vettel and Webber were team mates, Sebastian was the clear number one. SO of course he was going to “destroy” him as you where. When they were allowed to race- particularly in 2010 look at how close Mark and Seb were. In fact, it wasn’t until they perfected the exhaust gases late that year that Sebastian started pulling away. So try and be a bit impartial.

      14. aveli says:

        berman samurai, button didn’t outdrive hamilton in 2011. button accumulated more points because of hamilton’s retirements due to bad luck. take a look at the qualifying results and race lap times and the truth will stare you right in the face.

      15. aveli says:

        jim clark did not pull 2g and will be confused by all the buttons on hamilton’s steering wheel, let alone what they do. are you sure about what you’re saying?

    2. kenneth chapman says:

      @monza71….sorry to be pedantic but you can’t get 110%from any car! 100% maybe.

  112. Heinzman says:

    Anyone else pick up on HAM’s lack of manners toward his team on the radio?

    Yes it is a race, and it is heated, but you just don’t talk to anyone like that as habitually as he does.

    Even though he doesn’t get the job done, Nico doesn’t cry like Lewis.

    1. fox says:

      HAM needs ALO for the track and for the radio!

    2. TimW says:

      didn’t you hear Nico whining about having to read out his dash info to the team when his telemetry failed a couple of races ago?

      1. Heinzman says:

        I didn’t, but perhaps I was a little equivocal: it’s more so his animosity and attitude I find disturbing. He questions them and almost abuses them, and is then ready to dive all over them post race. Shows a lack of respect in IMHO

      2. Davej says:

        Look. Lewis was battling for the lead. His team botched up both his pit stops by about 3 seconds, more or less the same margin he had to Nico. SO as far as I’m concerned, he had every right to demand for answers. You need to look at the substance as well and not the tone. Then Lewis asked for 2 clicks on his front wing and the team misunderstood him and were going to give him 3. In Lewis’ words, that would have made his handling “worse”. So, instead of nit picking put it into perspective- Lewis is in the heat of victory and world championship battle and the team are not giving him the optimum he requires to retain his advantage. Of course he’s going to demand answers! That could have easily cost him the lead but it evened out. Like TimW said, listen to Rosberg’s team radio as well during the Chinese grand prix. I guess it’s hard to appreciate that driving at 200mph while talking and hitting your braking zones isn’t the same as driving a road car on a Sunday stroll and having a chat.

      3. TimW says:

        Maybe Lewis could be a bit more polite but they are all big boys and understand that in the heat of battle emotions run high. I have heard other drivrs be just as abrupt on the radio.

    3. Andrew says:

      Strange that when Hamilton and Vettel show stress on the radio they are vilainised but when Raikkonen and Alonso show stress they are celebrated.

      1. Heinzman says:

        Very true, Alonso has talked down to his engineers before. Raikonnen I would disagree, as I think it is his default to say nothing and he only gets frustrated when he is antagonised by his engineers.

        Anyway, neither Alonso nor Raikonnen speaks in such childish tones so habitually. Contrast Hamilton’s question ‘Where were you the last few laps’ (paraphrased) with Alonso in this video:


        Of course Alonso does not always behave like this, however in all of my memory I cannot recall a driver under the pressure that he was under in that particular race with the McLaren behind him within DRS for a large component of the race. Yet he was able to control himself.

        In my opinion, this is a mark of a champion.

      2. Ahmed says:


    4. aveli says:

      @heinzman, unfortunately hamilton is the only man on this earth in that position so he is the only man who has the right to decide how he speaks to his engineers.

      1. Heinzman says:

        I respectfully disagree, you don’t base your treatment of others on your status. Human beings tend toward a sentimentality for those who treat them with respect, and if he continues like this he will lose them.

      2. aveli says:

        heinzman, hamilton has lived all his life making decisions which cumulated in where he is right now. when he decided to move from mercedes to mclaren, many said he had made the wrong move. if he wasn’t intelligent enough to decide on how he lives his professional and private lives he will certainly not be in the position he is. did you see how raikkonen responded to the media questions after the race? have you presented any advice for raikkonen?
        the only person who can decide whether hamilton spoke to them respectfully or not are those he spoke to so what is your point?

    5. SaScha says:

      [mod]. Lewis was absolutely right with everything he said on the radio! The stops had been slow, he lost a lot of time, the wing adjusment from the team WAS wrong, and the first stop was too early.
      BTW it’s a race not a tea party with biscuits & small talk

    6. brendan says:

      nico cries when he finished 2nd to lewis again.. Lewis’s pit team messed up twice, if someone other than nico was behind him, it may of cost him the race..
      why is everyone on here against lewis? he is the best driver in f1.. he gives 110% and hes a winner.. he expects the rest of the team to be the same..
      if he makes a mistake hes the first to say it..
      why the hell Ron Dennis let him go ,is beyond me.

  113. Paul Mc says:

    James anything on the Ferrari/Newey offer story? Id love to know the detail of the offer but we probably will never know. Red Bull are keen to suggest that he has everything he needs at Red Bull and his own setup. Surely Ferrari would offer the same to lure him?

    Most F1 folk suggest he wont go but its interesting especially with Vettel’s linkage with Ferrari last year and Alonso’s potential switch to Mercedes being talking about.

    1. fox says:

      Newey continues to say he stays in UK because of his four children there.

      1. Monza 71 says:

        Ferrari had the same problem in 1988 when they were losing consistently and desperately wanted to employ John Barnard who refused to move to Italy.

        The answer they came up with was to open a Guildford Technical Office ( GTO ) from where Barnard designed the car.

        It worked, and Ferrari started to win again : in 1989 when Nigel Mansell famously won his first race for the Scuderia in the 640 : A proper Grand Prix Ferrari with a V12 Engine.

        After three years at Benetton in which he designed race winning cars for a certain M. Schumacher, Barnard returned to Ferrari in 1993. They opened another UK office, this time less imaginatively called the Ferrari Design and Development Office.

        Again they started winning with the Barnard-designed 412

        It could be done !

    2. flesh says:

      Is there talk or speculation regarding Alonso going to Mercedes if so who is he going to replace?

    3. KRB says:

      He’d leave RBR to go to the British America’s Cup team before he’d go to Ferrari, IMO.

  114. Paul D says:

    All this season proves is
    put Lewis, Vettel or Alonso in the best car and they’ll win all the races.

    We need to see two of these guys go head to head in the same team.

    Hopefully Merc replace Rosberg with Alonso next year, then we’ll have a spectacle.

    1. fox says:


    2. TimW says:

      we have already had that, Lewis Seb would be brilliant!

      1. aveli says:

        why not rosberg and vettel?

      2. TimW says:

        at Mercedes? I doubt they would sack Lewis to take Vettel!

    3. KRB says:

      Alonso I believe has shown himself to be something of a poison within a team. He’s a great driver, relentless, but it has to be all about him.

      Hamilton-Vettel would be good to see, for sure. But it’s the same thing as with RBR the last four years … if you’re cleaning up in both championships, why upset that apple cart?

  115. TimW says:

    not a bad race considering it was Barcelona, (traditionally a bore fest) good to see the Mercs going at it again, it seems Lewis has enough in hand over Nico to cling on for the win even when he is having a bad weekend, although if Merc hadn’t given Nico 2.25 seconds in the stops it would have been a bit easier for Hamilton. I thought it was interesting to see Lewis using less fuel than Nico again, could this be hurting him towards the end of the races as his car will be heavier?

  116. Bru72 says:

    Aldo Costa has designed a real gem in the W05 Mercedes. Look at the gap it held to other teams with the same power units!

  117. James do we know why Rosberg was able to match Lewis for time when he was on hard tires and Lewis on soft. In Bahrain before the safety car Lewis was able to pull away on softs.

    1. puffing says:

      Sorry to interfere. I understand that track temperature was going intermittently up and down (range, up to about 6ºC) in a not so hot track altogether at the end of the Spanish race. Those changes caused by sun appearing and hidding itself among clouds.

      That could explain sudden changes in speed of Lewis and Nico. At least that was the explanation given by Jaime Alguersuari in Spain Movistar TV channel.

      1. aveli says:

        can you explained the difference in the speeds while they qualified under the same sun beam, on the same tyres?

      2. puffing says:

        Not under the same sun beam. Sunday was cloudy with the sun coming out and in only at the end of the race.

      3. puffing says:

        As for differences the other day under constant sun or same tyres, that another story.

      4. aveli says:

        thanks for the clear explanation. :-)

      5. aveli says:

        I doubt they’d sack rosberg.

  118. German Samurai says:

    Let’s look at this supposed dominance of Red Bull from 2010-2013. They were only ever dominant in 2011 and in 2013 from mid-season.

    Here’s Red Bull’s 1-2 finishes in that period:
    2010 – 1/19
    2011 – 6/19
    2012 – 1/20
    2013 – 4/19

    Here’s Mercedes 1-2 finishes in 2014 after 5 races:
    2014 – 4/5

    As you can see, this is likely to be the most dominant car in F1 history. It will be a hollow championship for Lewis. He still has to show us that he can win a championship against the likes of Vettel or Alonso. In 2008 his number one rival was Felipe Massa, yet he couldn’t win that championship until the last corner of the last race!

    For fun let’s look at Schumacher’s 2000-04 period at Ferrari since if there’s anything the British media like to diminish more than Vettel’s 4 championships, it’s Schumacher’s 7.

    Ferrari 1-2 finishes 2000-04 (that era were Schumacher waltzed to victory with unbeatable machinery!)

    2000 – 3/17 McLaren had 4/17!
    2001 – 3/17
    2002 – 9/17
    2003 – 0/17
    2004 – 8/17

    As you can see he only ever had a truly dominant car in 2002 and 2004. He had the best car in 2001 but the superiority is exaggerated.

    2000 the McLaren was definitely the better car.

    2003 Schumacher would have won the championship if had either the McLaren or Williams. Very difficult to split the teams.

    1. German Samurai says:

      Just like to add…

      In 2002, Schumacher wrapped up the championship at the French Grand Prix. In the remaining 6 races of the season after the French Grand Prix, Ferrari had 5/6 1-2 finishes.

      Which makes me think teams gave up on the season after France and focused on 2003. That would make sense given how McLaren and Williams eliminated Ferrari’s performance advantage in 2003. By the way, 2003 had numerous regulation changes that were introduced by the FIA to stymie the dominance of Ferrari. So much for Ferrari International Assistance…

      Teams giving up on trying to even win races after France and letting Ferrari take 5/6 1-2′s skews that 9/17 stat some what.

      It’s not like Mercedes who have taken 4/5 in the first 5 races!

    2. ferggsa says:

      I agree this years MB is more dominant in raw pace than RBR was last 4 years, but there are other factors involved, from reliability to accidents, to second driver performance that affect your stats

      It might mean, for example, that ROS is a better mate to HAM than WEB was to VET, or BAR was to MSC, or to BUT in the Brawn (another dominant car)

      On the other hand, perception wise, I found MSC/Ferrari dominance more boring than VET/RBR, and far more than the present HAM/MB

      At least ROS can challenge and is allowed to do it
      Of course, if HAM/MB dominate the next 4 years no one except themselves will be too happy

      1. German Samurai says:

        Racing wasn’t as good then.

        I know people love to revise history, but DRS, driver activated KERS, option/prime tyres and engine parity (until this year) makes/made for great racing.

        If Vettel and Webber had a car as dominant as the Mercedes they would cruise to 1-2 finishes. Schumacher and Barrichello they would cruise to 1-2 finishes. I think Bianchi and Chilton would cruise to 1-2 finishes in a Mercedes.

        The 2004 Ferrari had reliability as good as any car today and yet it won 8/17.

        Barrichello is at least as good as Rosberg and is better than Webber.

        People forget about how impressive Barrichello was until he came to Ferrari and got blown away by the greatest driver in the world. It made him bitter and twisted.

        For all the talk in the last two weeks about Senna’s drive at Donnington being one of the greatest ever, it wasn’t even the best drive in that particular race let alone of all time. Barrichello had a finer drive in a back of the field car. He had many performances like that throughout his career.

      2. Dr Lewis says:

        You still have not mentioned the absolute fact regarding Hamilton having the greatest percentage number of wins in a non championships car in history?

        And I am of course assuming this car does actually win…

        Yet you suggest others rewrite history?

        Even if you deduct the wins in his rookie year – he is far out there.

        All f1 drivers are skilled, some more than others. Some have many wins – some few or none.

        Let’s try giving them all credit and not stating its the car, or that they were lucky. In particular lets not stretch the facts because some are preferred against others.

        I agree with you regarding Donnington – having raced there many times before the changes, I and many others know how much grip there is on the outside of the racing line and Senna figured it out.

        Still a good lap though.

        Just to say Lyddon Hill is exactly the same. I went from 32 to 2 in the first lap. As a rookie…

        Sometimes it just works.

      3. German Samurai says:

        “You still have not mentioned the absolute fact regarding Hamilton having the greatest percentage number of wins in a non championships car in history?”

        It doesn’t mean a lot. It needs context.

        IMO it means he’s always had a competitive car but hasn’t got the job done.

    3. Gazza says:

      “He still has to show us that he can win a championship against the likes of Vettel or Alonso”

      That sentence alone makes the rest of your argument superfluous.

      Hamilton proved his worth against Alonso in 2007.

      Its Vettel who has to prove his worth against Hamilton or Alonso in the same machinery.

      Though I doubt that he would dare give them the chance. He,s got his hands full with Dan Riccardo.

    4. C63 says:

      How’s that list of the ‘many’ drivers coming along?

    5. Ahmed says:

      Out of curiosity, is the ’88 WDC regarded as a hollow championship? What of ’09?Or how about ’11 and ’13?

      Who was it that won the championship in these years?

      “Past performance is no indication of future success”

      1. German Samurai says:

        It’s certainly a championship with an asterisk against it.

        They had a bogus points system back then. Prost scored more championship points than Senna.

        2009 was hollow. Button is and has never been a top tier driver.

        2011 the best driver won no question.

        2013 Vettel only had the best car after the mid-season break yet he still went into the break with a race and a half advantage in his pocket. No question the best driver in the world won.

        Hamilton had worse race pace than Rosberg in 2/4 races he’s won. Hamilton’s paid twice the amount Rosberg is paid. He should be beating Rosberg comfortably.

      2. Ahmed says:

        2011 rbr was miles ahead of anyone in development… 2013 rbr was unbeatable once the tyres were changed to suit them. Had it been tht case frm th beginning of the season they would have won every race. Lol keep it simple, just say u don’t like hamilton, its easier tht way

      3. ferddy07 says:

        “Button is and has never been a top tier drier”

        The contradiction in that statement just show’s you’re not to be taken seriously.

      4. German Samurai says:

        The tyres weren’t changed to suit Red Bull. They were changed because they were blowing up at Silverstone. Someone could have died.

        2011 the McLaren wasn’t that far behind and Red Bull didn’t have an advantage anything like Mercedes has this season. The best driver won in 2011.

        The tyres were changed after Silverstone. The next race was Germany were Lotus were the fastest cars and then Hungary where Mercedes was the quickest car.

        Do you just make these claims up as you go along? I have to give you a history lesson once again.

      5. Yafet says:

        For the reasons you hate Hamilton, you should also detest Alonso. He’s the highest paid individual on the grid, yet he hasn’t won a WDC in over eight years (although he came ridiculously close in 2010 and 2012). Our recent Spanish GP has shown Raikkonen with more credible pace. BUT, even I can admit that Alonso can do things with ANY car that most can’t. He has that edge, that gift that only Ferrari money can buy!

        Do you know why Hamilton gets paid so much? Faster pace than his teammate is always a good thing to have. But driving superbly in a car that doesn’t agree with you as well as you’d like it to, AND stay ahead of your teammate on harder compound, is what sells Hamilton very well.

        As Ahmed commented earlier, if you don’t like Hamilton, just say so. Here, watch… “I don’t like Maldonado.” You see? It’s that easy!

      6. Dr Lewis says:

        Find out what Paul H said at the start of 013 regarding RB load data.

        In a nut shell – he stated if the tyres were made more durable RB would walk it.

        He knew because he had seen the downforce data.

        Guess he was right…

      7. KRB says:

        2011 the McLaren wasn’t that far behind?!? Mon Dieu!

        I believe you are out to lunch. The RB7 won 12 races to McLaren’s 6. That’s with Vettel blowing the lead in Canada, and DNFing at the start in Abu Dhabi. Two wins that should’ve been his. Also, swap Vettel and Lewis in China, and Lewis wins that one still. I recall Webber going from 18th to 3rd, and finishing 2.5s behind Vettel, who started on pole.

        The RB7 should’ve won 15 races, with McLaren picking up 3. Yeah, not far behind at all. Bless you, you do the work for me.

      8. German Samurai says:

        And the tyres needed to be more durable because someone could have died at Silverstone.

  119. Ahmed says:

    Ricciardo beats vettel and he is made out to be a racing god. Alonso beats raikonnen and its a matter of favouritism and kimi ‘just not up to speed’…. Vettel has been suffering with these 2014 regs and raikonnen as well. Even if we go with the conspiracy theory that ferrari gave alonso better strategy thanks to santander and spanish soil, what of the preceding 4 races? 1 or 2 ice cubes with those double standards?

    1. PP says:

      and a pirelli tyre. Invoice to be sent to Mr. Magnussen, Woking, England.

    2. C63 says:

      I think you might be onto something there. I have been giving this matter some thought, and I think I am beginning to see evidence that suggests, to me, that when fans doesn’t like a particular driver they seem to post comments that are not flattering or favourable to the object of their ire.
      Of course I can’t prove this theory,but I am pretty sure I have spotted posts that fall into that catagory. I will keep you posted as I gather more data from my research :-)

      1. Ahmed says:

        Lol all I can say, u gonna need an arsenal of facts to fend off th attack you get… The vettel/ricciardo intra team battle is a prime example. Whether u are a fan of vettel or not(not getting into the whole vet/web debate) he is one of the more talented drivers on the grid and the current success ric is having over him by no way means that vettel is overrated to the extent that justifies the bashing he’s getting.[mod]. But as u say, we can’t prove our theories lol

      2. Ahmed says:

        Example #2 tht comes to mind… Mclarens 2010 – 2012 pairing between button and hamilton: hamilton finished higher on driver standards at the end of the 2010 and 2012 seasons. Button beat him in 2011 fr a number of reasons. In the end, MANY fans say that button outshone hamilton because the total points he accumilated from 2010 -2012 was higher; even though points are not carried over from one season to the next.

        Example #3… When it was anounced that raikonnen will be racing alongside alonso as of 2014, alonso anti-fans couldn’t stop going on with the whole “kimi is faster then u, do you understand” comments.

  120. kenneth chapman says:

    @ ahmed….’a racing god’? where did that come from? he has been praised for a rather spectacular entry to top team racing in glowing terms by none other than christian horner amongst others…..but a ‘racing god’!!!

    does he deserve this? he most certainly does. have there been any others on the stage? yes there has, kvyat in particular. does he deserve the accolades, yes he certainly does.

    hamilton has been hanging around the traps for what, seven years, now. he is driving well but that is about it in a nutshell. he has a great car and by extrapolation of all the facts that is the differentiator. a good driver in a sensational car.

    1. Ahmed says:

      As the accusation against lewis performance and even against vettel that they are in great cars so that performance is expected because anyone else on th field would be able to do just as well with the same car.

      I’m Not taking anything away from ric, he’s doing a great job but he is in the second fastest car and its not as if its his 1st year in formula 1, this is now his 3rd or 4th right? He’s not a rookie and theirs no such thing as a “rookie in a top level team”. He shouldn’t be coming out anything less thn 3rd in every race bar reliability issues… If lewis or nico are to complete a race at p3 or lower, their talent will come into question.

      But the point I’m making in th above post is this; and I use ricciardo and raikkonnen as examples because they are the current talk, if ppl dislike a driver they will hype up thr team-mate and kick the double standards into overdrive.

    2. Ahmed says:

      Ps, did u receive the link u wanted wrt to ric saying the mercs are off the pace?

      1. kenneth chapman says:

        @ ahmed…yes i did thank you. it really doesn’t say very much at all. a throwaway comment at the beginning of the testing pre season is simply that. most likely an early observation.

      2. Ahmed says:

        Of course it is :)

    3. kenneth chapman says:

      @ ahmed….did you read my question at the start of my post? and……

      1. kenneth chapman says:

        @ ahmed… you still haven’t answered my question re ‘racing god’?is this terminology something that you have conjured up in your defence of hamilton and his critics? if so then what has it got to do with anything being discussed here?

        whilst mclaren are far from being a ‘top team’ in the context of the current points score, they are still recognised as a top team and magnussen is a confirmed ‘rookie’.

        yes, this is ricciardo’s third year in F1 but only his first in a top team and there is a world of difference in both method/operations and most importantly expected performance especially when he is placed up against a 4 X WDC!!!!!

        i suggest that you simply read the comments made by the people who employ ricciardo and also some of the other F1 luminaries who are able to recognise a talented driver from the ‘inside F1 perspective’.

        i will give you one minor insight into the latest race at barca. my friend who is a frequent paddock member with connections across a fair cross section of the F1 milleau told me a few nights ago when he called from barca that ricciardo was a hot topic and that he was highly regarded by a lot of F1 movers and shakers.

        i share this with you simply to point out that he is well thought of and is currently looked at as a future possible champion.

        IMO that is all well and good and promising but it is very early in the season. anything can happen and i have always stated that vettel will come back at him with a highly concentrated attack. we could see this sooner rather than later. monaco will see the the vettel resurgence. hopefully ricciardo can continue to take the fight to him.

  121. Krischar says:

    Lewis simply superb drive and consummate performance

    Lewis have certainly raised the bar this season. Lewis have already have one hand on 2014 WDC. Rosberg need to respond well quickly to keep his title bid alive as we move into the mid-season. I am really impressed with hammy version of 2014. He has been the quickest pilot out there for sometime now and his improved racecreaft means. Rosberg need to find something extra.

    Spanish GP itself was not a enthralled contest, Yet the in-house battle between Mercedes pilots was good to watch. Rosberg kept lewis honest through out the race and looked quicker than lewis in pacthes.

    Go Lewis 2014 WDC is yours to loose

  122. Phil Glass says:

    844 comments … must be a record!

    1. James Allen says:

      Not even close

      We had 1,200 once on a single post

      1. C63 says:

        Webber/ Vettel in in Malaysia last season, the Ferrari team orders fiasco and the Pirelli/Mercedes tyre test.
        They would be my guesses for the top comments posts.
        Do I win a prize ?

      2. ferggsa says:

        And that was before GazBoy started answering his own posts

      3. thinktank says:


  123. Tornillo Amarillo says:

    This is the year of HAMILTON’s fans, he won so beautifully, and Nico was closer, Nico will be closer each time, I will say aggressive… but Hamilton can finish 2nd in a race and no problem… he will bounce back and that’s it. More points he gets, more easy to control Rosberg.

  124. Kerty P says:

    I want to win, I don’t want to be second because second is the first loser. I don’t want to be a loser.
    Nico Rosberg issues fighting talk after losing to team-mate Lewis Hamilton in Malaysia.

  125. Anil Parmar says:

    So Alonso didn’t get jumped by Massa. They HAD to pit Alonso when they did. Go read the live timings again; if Alonso came in after Kimi, Massa would have jumped him, meaning less points.


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