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Posted By: James Allen  |  16 Jul 2013   |  4:08 pm GMT  |  106 comments

Toro Rosso’s Daniel Ricciardo will test for Red Bull at this week’s young driver test at Silverstone, boosting his hopes of landing a race seat with the reigning world champions next season.

The three-day Silverstone test, which starts on Wednesday, was originally intended for young drivers, however race drivers are being allowed to take part so they can collect data for Pirelli following a series of tyre failures at last month’s British Grand Prix.

A seat at Red Bull next season alongside reigning world champion Sebastian Vettel has opened up after Mark Webber announced he would leave the sport to join Porsche in sportscar racing.

Ricciardo, 24, and 2007 world champion Kimi Raikkonen are in contention to replace the Australian.

Ricciardo will get behind the wheel of a Red Bull on Wednesday afternoon with Red Bull development drivers Antonio Felix da Costa and Carlos Sainz Junior, son of rally legend Carlos Sainz, also getting an opportunity to sample F1 machinery.

Race drivers Webber and Vettel will get an afternoon each in the car to work on tyre development.

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  1. Glennb says:

    Good move Red Bull.

    1. bob says:

      I agree!

      If I remember correctly, the last time Dan did a ‘young driver’ test for Red Bull he put in a lap 1.3 seconds quicker than Vettel’s pole lap at the same race!

      If Dan does get the job do not be surprised to see him give Vettel a proper run for his money!!

      1. James Allen says:

        Yes, but that was at Abu Dhabi where the track kept ramping up in grip as more rubber went down.

        This test will be interesting, although it is much hotter in UK this week than during British GP weekend

    2. Steve Boden says:

      Really pleased for Ricciardo, He’s a fast driver and really likeable character. I really hope he gets the drive.

      Got to say, What must be going through Vergne’s head now? He must be pretty gutted. Looks to me like its between Ricciardo and Raikonnen now.

      1. Quade says:

        I hope Ricciardo gets it. He needs a chance in a top team, while Kimi has already driven for 3.

      2. Ezio Auditore says:

        Vergne’s probably going to Lotus. In fact he would be perfect for Lotus as they want someone who has good race pace. Moreover Vergne’s really handy in the wet, which still is a good indicator of a driver’s true ability.

        Not taking sides here, Ricciardo is pretty good too. Overall I would say that Daniel is the faster of the two, but Vergen’s pretty much up there with him.

        RIC –> RB
        Verge –> Lotus

  2. Gilbert says:

    Something wrong. Ricciardo + Weber + Vettel = more than One day test with race driver.

    1. Justin says:

      It is a three day test but RB have split each day at lunch so there are 6 sessions for them to allot:

      Wednesday am: Antonio Felix da Costa
      Wednesday pm: Daniel Ricciardo
      Thursday am: Antonio Felix da Costa
      Thursday pm: Mark Webber
      Friday am: Carlos Sainz Jr
      Friday pm: Sebastian Vettel

      Interesting that da Costa gets 2 sessions.

      1. James Allen says:

        He will be next in line for Toro Rosso seat if Ricciardo gets the nod

      2. Fireman says:

        If Ricciardo gets the nod, would Vergne get the boot?

    2. MikeyB says:

      Webber and Vettel are only doing an afternoon each and Ricciardo isn’t yet a race driver for the Red Bull F1 team. Soon though, I hope ;-)

      1. Dave says:

        But Ricciardo isn’t a young driver either

    3. Glennb says:

      Seems you’re right. RB have pulled Webber from the tests following discussions with FIA. I believe Lotus took Kimi out also. Cant confirm that one though.

  3. Greg (Aus) says:

    Best of luck Dan, make the most of the opportunity!

  4. Dick says:

    Seems like it is stretching the intent of ‘young’ driver test too far. Red Bull now have 3 race drivers providing tyre feedback. Doesn’t feel like a level playing field…

    1. Nick says:

      Its pretty much clear that this was always going to be called a Young Drivers Test, but only superficially…its basically “You get something that Mercedes got, but we’re calling it this and you have to use some young drivers for development and race drivers for tires”

      But come on….F1 has always been about bending the rules and using every little loop hole you can to get maximum benefits out of every single thing you do.

      This is what the sport has been about for years now, and I’m still really surprised people are complaining about teams taking advantage of anything they can.

      There is no “spirit of the rules” when you want to win, every team has proved this in the past.

      1. Dick says:

        I take your point but it is normally the teams that call foul on one another. Red Bull in particular over the Mercedes test and here they are pushing the limit again. All gets a bit tedious.

      2. Matt says:

        Not sure I agree.

        Having a third race driver test the car (Especially one unfamiliar with the car) doesn’t seem like an advantage..

        The rules since 2010 state that “Teams may use up to four drivers during a season, all of whom may score points in the championship.”. Unless there’s something in the rules contradicting this it seems OK.

      3. Tommo says:

        I agree with you, this whole Red Bull “era” is getting a bit tedious.

      4. SteveS says:

        Thee is no limit pushing going in here – RB are perfectly within their rights in what they are doing. And the comparison to Mercedes and their illegal test is just bizarre.

    2. docjkm says:

      CriKey
      When was it ever?

    3. Langer says:

      I thought that the test allowed for a current race driver to test for one day only. Webber and Vettel fill that day. Ricciardo has competed in the last two seasons so therefore aren’t RB breaking the rule of the Young Driver test by using race drivers for an extra half day??

      1. SteveS says:

        “I thought that the test allowed for a current race driver to test for one day only.”

        You thought wrong then. The teams can run race drivers all three days if they wish.

        This move by RB actually puts them at a slight disadvantage. They are giving up a half day of testing purely to evaluate DR as a possible MW replacement. If his lap times are within a certain percentage of Webbers (only RB will know what that percentage is) he’ll get the job. Or he could actually go faster than Webber …..

      2. Antti says:

        How do you know what Red Bull’s criteria are? I’d be willing to bet quite a bit on Red Bull not evaluating Ricciardo based just on his laptimes compared to Webber, especially in such a simple manner as “certain percentage of Webber’s time”.

      3. Adrian Newey Jnr says:

        Depends what Kimi has to say about the opening….

    4. All revved-up says:

      Good point. Red Bull should be careful about following the rules. After the high ground RB took on the Mercedes’ illegal tyre testing.

      Just get Webber to step aside.

  5. Andrew Gibson says:

    His smile must be wider than ever.

  6. Paige says:

    This is your shot, kid. Time to nail it.

    1. Wade Parmino says:

      He should do. Silverstone is a track on which he has excelled.

  7. Elie says:

    It’s a good move because as it seems less and less likely that Kimi will sign or more to the point Red Bull need to make decisions sooner rather than later and for a longer term. Great news for Daniel but he really needs to grab the Bull by the horns and show that he wants that seat!.
    Im sure there is alot of tough decisions to come-I’m still very torn at the idea of Kimi and Seb- will we have the chance to see the greatest driver pairing for 20 years or will the threat to Sebs reine at RBR prove too much??

    I don’t understand the need to run both Seb and Mark with Both Di Costa, Sainz Jnr run in conjunction with Ricciardo- what a crazy program.! Though Im sure Mark will be happy to give Daniel all the advise he can.

    1. gudien says:

      Doubt Red Bull really want another older driver (Webber & Raikonnen) with issues on the team, and therefore it follows Ricciardo will be chosen.

      The real challenge now becomes; How do we continue to blame Helmut Marko when Vettel still wins?

      1. Elie says:

        No the question becomes -despite his tremendous success will Sebastian ever be truly acknowledged amongst the greats.
        If Mark Webber was close more often than not- how would another WC have gone. This is the question that will remain unanswered- therein lies the dilemma.

      2. Rachael says:

        There is no dilemma. Posterity is the adjudicator.

        Vettel has modelled his career on breaking Schumi’s records and that will be his only meaningful comparison.

        I mean to say, when it comes to the greats, who can nominate every teammate that Fangio was paired with?? Same with Clark or Stewart or Piquet or Prost or Senna; or even Schumi in his early career? Who even cares?

      3. Phil Glass says:

        Ellie, that is a good question.

        I know Vettel has done enough, but F1 history is about perception as well as hard facts. IMO he has to win a title for Ferrari to add to his RB tally.

        Have to say that as an Alonso fan who also admires Raikkonen, I see those two as the greats of the modern era. I want to see them fight all out for this title with Vettel.

        So here’s hoping Kimi ends this silly season with announcing his move to RB before too long.

      4. Quade says:

        Sadly, Vettels car and not the man is nominated amongst the greats.

      5. Elie says:

        @rachael people who understand talent care.Those who are just good at tallying and recounting facts and figures only look at what is written and recorded dont care.

        Great people usually care about being the best they can be and measuring themselves against greatest opponents. And Senna : Prost is a great example.Those who win by cheating or seeking an unfair advantage, or those who hide behind favouritism, preferential treatment, refusing a challenge by a worthy adversary are just cowards and actually have alot in common with the people above- they cannot face the truth!

      6. Bart says:

        Will he ever be acknowledged amongst the greats? Obviously yes, even the BBC ranked him 8th of all time last year. He’s basically there already, at his still relatively young age.

      7. Rachael says:

        @elie the truth that needs to be faced up to, is that Sebastian Vettel is already one of the great drivers. He has raced against, and beaten all comers in the most competitive era, ever. The days are gone when one team can expect to win 15 of 16 races in a season, so the Prost/Senna analogy doesn’t fit the current situation.

        Do you really believe that RBR management will base its decsions on how Vettel’s record will be viewed 50 years from now??? The people who write the cheques make the decisions, and right now Red Bull’s intention is to win more championships so that they can sell lots & lots of soft drinks.

  8. Lee says:

    Makes sense to get one of your 2014 prospects in the 2013 car round a familiar track to see how he compares to the current employees. My bet is that he’ll do very well and will get the drive. Although RBR are sensible to keep their options open I think they want a solid No. 2 who knows his place after the experience with Webber. Kimi’s not that. Remember Webber was there pre-Vettel. Now that they know they have a very special driver expect the team to form behind him like Ferrari did with Schuey. Lance Armstrong always said that all he did was find a winning formula and repeat. Now in his case that formula was chemical but you get my point. Expect RBR to line up Danny boy to support Vettel, and repeat endlessly until he either eclipses Schuey, Newey leaves or Ferrari offer to pay him silly money.

    1. Robert says:

      ^^^ T H I S ^^^^

      I also agree that DR will get the drive, and it is simply because Red Bull could not win the WDC easily if Kimi and Vettel took too many points off each other. They have gotten too used to winning both titles, and too strong a #2 can only hurt Vettel’s chances – and Kimi isn’t THAT much better than Vettel to win it outright himself.

      DR is eminently likeable, a fast driver (well, we will see soon, won’t we?), and absolutely can stand loosing to Vettel, including any “Multi-12″ orders that may arise. (yes I typed that right, the inverse of Multi-21).

      N.B. – As for Armstrong, he actually used MULTIPLE chemical formulas over the years….starting with the huge testosterone dosing that actually was the likely cause of his testicular cancer before he switched to EPO (testes cancer is a noted side effect of large doses of testosterone supplements). In short he caused his own cancer, and then got sympathy for fighting it…

      1. Rockie says:

        “Red Bull could not win the WDC easily if Kimi and Vettel took too many points off each other.”

        Depends if they are finishing 1,2 they would still win it.
        Also how would they take points of each other?

      2. Rachael says:

        I think the notion of drivers “taking points off one another” is largely false.

        Normally the team that wins the driver’s championship also wins the constructors championship (but not always).

        Since the advent of the constructors’ championship in 1958, there have been 10 seasons when a team has won the WDC but not the WCC.

        Of those 10 occasions, there were 5 seasons when the team won the WDC but LOST the WCC simply because their second driver could not score enough points to support the lead driver.

        There were 3 occasions (in 1976, 1982 and 1999) when Ferrari won the WCC, but missed out on the WDC only because of injury to their lead driver.

        In the history of the world championship, there were only 2 seasons (1958 and 1986) when you could really say that a World Drivers Championship was lost because the two team drivers took points off each other.

    2. Andrew M says:

      I’m sure Red Bull appreciate the Armstrong comparison immensely!

  9. jmv says:

    what if Da Costa outshines him… they are scheduled to run on the same day… maybe Red Bull are actually assessing Da Costa for a post-Kimi (2014-2015) period.

    1. Paige says:

      Well, this is a possibility. I wouldn’t say it’s likely because Ricciardo has 2 years of full-time racing experience in F1, and experience in an F1 car is everything for drivers on their way to getting up to speed. If he sets times in the neighborhood of Ricciardo, then that is something to take note of regarding da Costa.

      It’s also very possible that they will be putting Ricciardo not through hot laps, but through a real testing program to see where he is at in terms of giving feedback. I would be much more concerned about seeing this from Ricciardo in this test than seeing how fast he can go, because I know he can go very fast in qualifying. I would, though, be interested in his feedback on the car for short runs or to see what he is doing on short runs to get one-lap pace, as this is the area where they’re behind Mercedes at the moment and it is the area where Ricciardo has shined this year.

      1. Matt says:

        Surely RB technical staff chat to TR staff?

        I think his ability to provide technical feedback and work with the engineers would be well established by now. This test will probably assess his one lap and long run pace.

    2. Lee says:

      If that happens I expect them to file it under ‘nice problems to have’.

      1. Elie says:

        Exactly – with this test they have a lot if “nice problems”

  10. jb says:

    I wonder what is RedBull looking for this time? When DC left, Vettel was the obvious choice against Bourdais.
    Then, Buemi and Alguersuari didn’t make the cut probably because Webber was not ready to leave.

    Now, it is Buemi, Ricardo and Vergne’s chance. RB can also looked at Kubica and Raikkonen.

    The driver I want is Raikkonen because I want him in the best car.

    The driver I think is most likely going to be in is Ricardo because he is fast and sufficiently mature.

  11. Paige says:

    I read somewhere that Red Bull are looking for someone who can score at leeast 200 points consistently. This is the amount they think they need from a second driver to win the Constructor’s Title. Webber has given them this the first two seasons, failing only last year. And with half of the season still to go, he’s got a shot at hitting 200 this year, as well.

    So the question becomes: is Daniel Ricciardo good enough to get 200 points a year in a Red Bull? This would basically mean that he would be finishing in the top-5 consistently, grabbing a few podiums, with maybe a win or two sprinkled in. He’s definitely shown he has speed and can qualify the car like he would need to. I have no doubt about that. But honestly, I think he needs to develop his race craft. But this is something he can develop, and I think it’s worth it to Red Bull to give him a chance and develop him on the big squad. They’re not going to get Kimi to play second fiddle, and I don’t think he wants to leave Lotus. Vergne hasn’t shown enough speed. I don’t see anyone else being in the frame, as Red Bull doesn’t seem to want to stray too far from the nest on this one. (And Kimi is the limit of the nest.)

    1. SteveS says:

      People have been saying for years now that ANYONE can win in a Newey designed Red Bull. And when Vettel was the same age Ricciardo is at present, he was well on his way to wrapping up his second WDC. So in theory there is no reason why Danny should not be able to come in and quickly mimic Webber’s performances, or even surpass them.

      Unless people were wrong about the greatness of the RB cars all this time …

    2. RogerD says:

      I read / heard many years ago that if you are a good qualifier then you can be taught racecraft and so become a good race driver. Qualifying is about confidence & committment at the edge of your / your car’s ability. That’s not something that flows easily from mere experience / tuition.

      If you don’t got the raw speed in the first place then you don’t got nothing.

      Dan would seem to be better than JEV on this point.

      Grosjean is some kind of lesson as a driver who hasn’t quite mastered the racecraft bit despite obviously being very quick on his day.

  12. jeremy says:

    Its common sense really, Kimi is really on for the seat the moment he decided on his F1 return. I think its been the intension by both Red Bull and Kimi’s group all along years before. Things are just not legally/finacially correct last year and this year. They have their reasons for the timing. Not 100% sure, but the partnership is the logical and practical thing to do. Both in the commercial/marketing and technical perspective. All the chatter maybe just to spin things but I think the decision has been made awhile back. Most of time its been like that in F1.

    1. Lee says:

      I don’t agree it’s practical or logical. I think Kimi would fit the brand well but from a sporting point of view expect RBR to adopt the Shuey/Ferrari model with a team built around a strong No.1 rather than the McLaren approach of two strong No.1′s fighting it out.

      Why?

      Vettel came to the team after Webber, and although many suspected Vettel was good they couldn’t be sure he was this good. Webber had no intention of being No. 2 to Vettel and the team has suffered the infighting that resulted. I expect RBR to recruit a second driver with everyone on the same page as to his status within the team.

      As a special talent Vettel is often courted, primarily by Ferrari. He is mentored by Schuey who I have no doubt is advising him to put pressure on the team to recruit a compliant No. 2 not a competitive No.1. RBR has become a winning machine with the key formula Newey, Horner, Red Bull money and Vettel. They won’t want to lose Vettel and I expect them to now form the team around him to secure him for the long term. Vettel loves the numbers, hence the fact that he goes for fastest laps when the GP is won. He wants 8 World Titles minimum and copyinghow his mate Shuey did that is the best way.

      1. Fireman says:

        I think all teams want to race the best drivers available. The problem is, you need also drivers that aren’t mentally crushed after losing to their teammate. Few such drivers exist. Kimi is one of them.

        I guess the only question is can Vettel take it if he loses races or the WDC to Kimi.

      2. Kimi4WDC says:

        You missing the point, where RB want WCC way more than WDC. And their fifth consecutive WCC more and more in danger as the best driver line up on the grid picking up the pace – Rosberg and Hamilton.

        This is what Horner implies when he mentions: “We need two best drivers.”

        This is further more important as they need drivers who are proved to outperform the car if next year changes do not go according to plan. There are not many such drivers on the grid.

      3. Lee says:

        I think it’s you who has missed the point. DR is a fast driver, albeit one that will come into the team on the basis of being Vettel’s wing man. KR is not that driver, he’s in the autumn of his career. RBR has been stung by the infighting between drivers. Vettel is the star driver in that team and Horner won’t want to upset him by employing another No. 1 driver and risk situations like those seen between Vettel and Webber where they take each other out or come very close to doing so. To win the WDC and the WCC first you have to finish. DR is a fast driver and I will only develop further in the same team as Vettel to the point where ultimately he may take over as team leader. You’re assuming that he won’t be as fast as KR but I suspect that this won’t be the case. I predict DR will get the seat and plenty of 1-2′s and team harmony will result.

        The other glaring fact you’re missing here is that RBR is an experiment. They’re running 2 F1 teams for a reason. It’s a concept in driver training that has served them well and more crucially that they believe in and have invested heavily in. The reason they won’t employ KR is because he doesn’t drive a Torro Rosso.

    2. Rachael says:

      I also disagree on the point that RBR arranged the seat for Kimi prior to his return to F1. The reality is that the seat was Mark’s for as long as he wanted it, and the decision was entirely Mark’s to retire. No-ne knew that Kimi’s comeback would have been so successful.

  13. dufus says:

    Go Dan !

    1. Tommo says:

      +1

      Great guy

  14. gudien says:

    No matter whom gets the #2 spot they will be outshone by Vettel.

  15. Rob Newman says:

    Ricciardo will not be driving for Red Bull next year. This is just the way of Red Bull showing the wide world that they gave him an opportunity, they analysed him but ….

  16. yes, kimi is fast, but i really don’t rate him anywhere near as much as a lot of people. yes, he won a WDC, by what margin? that win certainly wasn’t what i would call ‘emphatic or masterly superior’.

    if redbull have any sense they will take ricciardo on board and groom him for the time when vettel cashes out. DR has all the ingredients for a successful career at the very top. he just needs further grooming.

    hiring kimi is problematic and i just don’t see him cutting the mustard in a team that is 100.1% built around the german.

    1. Fireman says:

      Following that logic, Hamilton’s WDC wasn’t so superior either. That sounds silly.

      1. yes fireman, you’re right, hamiltons WDC wasn’t anything special either.

      2. Fireman says:

        Great response :D

      3. Glennb says:

        It wasn’t superior. He scraped through bythe good grace of Timo Glock.

      4. baddow_oracle says:

        Adding to the “wasn’t anything special” list would be 2 of Vettels WDCs!

    2. Andrew M says:

      Yeah, I don’t think you can count yourself as a good driver until you’ve won the title by a margin of at least a million points.

  17. Rachael says:

    Helmut Marko has stated that he wants Sebastian Vettel’s next teammate to do plenty of “simulator work” while working “awfully hard” with the team’s technicians. This appears to be pointing to the fact that talks between RBR and RAI have broken down or reached a stalemate.

    “Red Bull’s analysis points to a target for its second driver of 200 points”. RBR have nominated a target of 200, purely based on Webber’s past performance, nothing more. Don’t put too much credence in the actual number. The key to interpreting the real meaning of the story is in the wording; SECOND DRIVER.

    RBR have been working with RIC for years and they are well aware of his technical abilities. Daniel’s qualifying performances this season demonstrate that he is fast and is able to pull out a quick lap on-demand. Daniel’s racecraft should not be questioned. Anyone who can drive around Alonso on the opening lap in Germany has it in spades.

    Clearly Red Bull have finally worked out that they need a team player, who can develop the car and support their superstar driver. After all MW has performed this role brilliantly in the past, and look at the success it has brought them.

    The only question that remains, is how much of Daniel’s race performance in 2013 is due to car and how much is due to driver? We will know the answer by the end of this week.

    1. Andrew M says:

      Where does this 200 points figure quote come from?

  18. C Lin says:

    Perhaps this move is to nudge Kimi to sign quickly.

  19. Multi 21 says:

    Ricciardo has already driven for Red Bull in a young driver test.

    From memory it was in 2010 when it was held in Abu Dhabi and he set very good lap times comparable to Webber and Vettel.

    It was these lap times that gave Red Bull the confidence to push him into a HRT drive for the back end of 2011 and then onto STR.

    1. David C says:

      as far as I remember he took half a second off Sebs quali time but conditions were different so tomorrow will be a better comparison. I think Lotus will be competitative next year so I hope they either keep Kimi or get a competitive driver. I think it’s good when all the top drivers are at different teams and it would be great to see how daniel gets on in a redbull.

  20. John says:

    What happens if Kimi walks in and wipes the floor with Vettel driving a Redbull? I don’t think Redbull Mangament are going to allow their Golden Boy to be embarrassed or will he do it to himself. Kimi will stay at Lotus. Why destroy what could be a great batlle for a few years as Lotus versus Redbull versus Mercedes versus Ferrari or whoever! Do we really need to No 1′s in a team? It’s all bout team rivalry……Best policy only one Rooster allowed in the hen’s house.

    1. Kimi4WDC says:

      I don’t think they mind at all, considering how open Vettel to Ferrari move.

    2. Rockie says:

      So if I get you correctly Kimi would wipe the floor with Vettel because he would extract more performance out of the RedBull, as right now Vettel is not? or suddenly with Kimi there Vettel would deteriorate in form?

    3. SteveS says:

      “What happens if Kimi walks in and wipes the floor with Vettel driving a Redbull?”

      That’s about as likely as Ricciardo walking in and wiping the floor with Vettel. Or Vergne walking into Ferrari and wiping the floor with Alonso.

    4. David C says:

      What happens if Kimi comes in and wipes the floor with Seb ………. I’ll eat my hat and I dont even have a hat!

      1. Bruce says:

        So you don’t think a car is adapted to suit a driver. Ok, you must be correct, and here I was thinking that drivers asking for changes and having input into development actually had some reasoning behind it.

        Silly me.

  21. Lewis says:

    Don’t know why people keep forgetting Ricciardo lost to Vergne last season and is losing again this season!

    1. JC says:

      Points only tell part of a story…

    2. Rachael says:

      JEV is a seat-of-the-pants driver, who is quick in slippery conditions. Vergne can’t perform the test and development work as well as well Dan. RBR have clearly stated that they are looking for a SECOND driver who can do the hack work for their superstar.

      One thing a lot of people have failed to acknowledge was that MW was at RBR years before VET, and he did a great job working with the engineers to develop a championship winning car for VET to step into at the right time. If Vettel had a donkey as a team mate, he couldn’t have won 3 championships. Instead Alonso would be a four-time WDC.

      1. Bruce says:

        Good post.

        Too bad VET is such a brilliant driver, else Mark would have had the car tailored to him instead of his team mate, and with his ability (up with the best of the rest) would have a number of WDC’s next to his name.

      2. David C says:

        If mark was the number one driver at RBR jenson would have a second WDC and Alonso a third and fourth. Newey is nothing without Seb!!! Well maybe that’s over the top but still mark never finished runner up in the WDC and from what I hear the car is designed and the drivers are expected to adapt not the other way round.

      3. Bart says:

        I cannot agree. Surely that “great job” would have led to something fruitful for Red Bull before 2009?

      4. David C says:

        If Alonso had a donkey of a team in 05 and 06 he would have no WDC titles, whats your party

    3. twice now ricciardo was in a good point scoring position and his car failed.

  22. Pete says:

    It’s great to see Dan get a chance to prove himself.

    Not only is he a talent in car, he is also VERY likeable.

    Is there anyone out there that doesn’t like him? He always has a (massive) smile on his face.

  23. Scott says:

    What does everyone think Ricciardo should do if Kimi does take the RBR seat. Kimi would surely sign for no less than 2 years & I think Vettel still has 2 years to run meaning no seat available at RBR until 2016.
    Should Ricciardo stay with Torro Rosso?
    That would mean 4 years in a seat meant for developing drivers. I don’t think Helmut Marko would give him 2 more years, IMO Buemi & Algesuari were lucky to get a third season.
    Surely Ricciardo would need to look elsewhere.
    Lotus would have a spare seat but I think they would prefer a more experienced driver to compliment Grosjeans “style”.
    So where else? Would any other team take him on?

  24. Tornillo Amarillo says:

    I would like Ricciardo or Kimi in Red Bull as a number 2 driver… because Mercedes has 2 number 1 driver. I think the best nr 2 for Red Bull after Mark is Hulk, but it seems Hulk will be a weird case in F1 history.

    Yeah, if you want to be a champion you have to be in top form in a top team in the right moment. Hulk is not getting the top team yet, Sauber is falling, maybe no vacancies at Lotus in 2014, is him sitting again as a reserve driver?

    Crazy or you are in a top team or a huge pay driver -as Chilton, Maldonado, Sergio and Sergei- or you are lost in the middle of nowhere as Hulk, Kobayashi, Alguersuari, B.Senna, Kovalainen, etc.
    Not good, not what fans want.

    1. Stephen Taylor says:

      I would not rule out out Mr Grosjean’s seat being vacant yet.

  25. SNB says:

    Good move Red Bull

    Better move than the Kimster

    Kimi would never get the best car while Seb and Marko are there

  26. Rachael says:

    Looking at the championship points at present Kimi is on target for 250+ points this season. Why would RBR nominate a target of 200 points and sign Kimi. Do they expect him to go backwards?

    If RBR wanted Kimi they would say something like; “We expect MW’s replacement to be battling for race wins and the WDC”.

    Clearly this is RBR’s not-so-subtle way of telling the world that Kimi is out of the picture (prior to an official announcement at a more appropriate time).

  27. Johnston says:

    Carlos Sainz, his Red Bull contacts and father must be working hard to get him a test?

  28. Mic says:

    It appears that Vettel fears Kimi as team-mate.

    1. Bart says:

      Haven’t seen anything to suggest that.

      1. Mic says:

        Hey Bart, what do you think now, given the latest development in the drivers market?

  29. SH says:

    What chance Webber stepping out of F1 before the end of the year, and Dan stepping into the Red Bull? Now that he’s announced he’s leaving, Webber has zero chance of getting support for a tilt at the WDC, and STR have a few others they can put in their car for the rest of the season.

    1. SH says:

      (Note: I’ve been a huge Webber fan since he started in F1 and I’m gutted he’s leaving at all. When you watch him fight his way back through the field at race after race, you wonder why he’s leaving F1 in the first place.)

    2. Glennb says:

      I considered that option too however I reckon TR need all the WCC points they can muster. Points = money. I suppose they could swap Mark and Dan around if RB lock in the WCC early ;)

  30. All revved-up says:

    Hi guys,

    When Mercedes ran their illegal Pirelli tyre test, Ferrari and RB protested that it gave Mercedes an advantage because race drivers were doing the testing.

    Now that the FIA has responded to the Pirelli exploding tyres saga by allowing F1 drivers to test, McLaren are not using any F1 drivers, and Alonso is not bothered to show up.

    Is it the case that there was really not much advantage using F1 drivers? Or is the use of one driver, Massa, sufficient to give the team good data? Or has McLaren really given up on 2013 such that neither race driver is bothered to show up?

  31. Peter says:

    I wonder, how much is that a hurry up for Kimi to make a decision? However, I think Kimi should stay with Lotus. If he wins the WCH with them he will be a legend, if he wins with RBR it will be (partly) down to the car. Also, he is almost a global brand at Lotus on his own right, something Hamilton really would like to achieve, with RBR he would have to join the RB family. The Q is, can Lotus stay close to the top for a longer period of time and give Kimi a competitive car?

  32. Jos says:

    If I was boss of Red Bull my take would be this (choosing Ricciardo over Kimi)

    1. We can pay Ricciardo less than Kimi (at least in initial deal)
    2. We can get Ricciardo to do more media commitments and be generally more marketable and approachable.
    3. We can let Ricciardo warm into the position easier by being more compliant with his role as no 2 in his first contracted Red Bull year.
    4. Ricciardo would be less likely to argue or go against team orders or instructions.
    5. Ricciardo would in year one be less likely to argue on track for position.
    6. Is going to be lower maintanence from a management perpective.

    Personally I feel Vergne is a good pickup for another team if Toro Rosso won’t give him another year, because his pure ability as Rachael mentioned probably eclipses Daniel in as much as he has displayed he is consistently quicker than Daniel in these type of conditions. Remember this is JEV’s first year in F1 whereas it is Ricciardo’s second and development input is an acquired technique.

    Perhaps Vergne was in the right place at the wrong time, because my gut feeling is with another year, JEV may have eclipsed Ricciardo.

    We have to remember we are still only half way through the season, Vergne has more Championship points and has had a couple of very unlucky races recently.

  33. AussieWoZ says:

    Great stuff Dan!
    A well earnt opportunity for the lad from Perth.

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