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Sebastian Vettel produced an almost faultless drive to claim a lights to flag victory at the Canadian Grand Prix and extend his World Championship lead over Fernando Alonso, who came home second ahead of Lewis Hamilton.

But the day was marked with tragedy as a 38 year old marshal was killed while recovering the damaged car of Esteban Gutierrez. He was hit by a mobile crane and died of head injuries.

He made a small mistake into Turn One on Lap 52, running down the escape road and losing four seconds in the process, but it was the only time he put a foot wrong all weekend.

It was Vettel’s 29th career win and the third of this season. He extended his championship lead over Fernando Alonso to 36 points.

With the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve one of few tracks that Vettel and Red Bull have yet to claim a victory on, the World Champions were never threatened as they extended their lead in both Championship’s and now have a strangle-hold as they chase a fourth consecutive their fourth title. Red Bull now has 201 points after seven races, an average of 28 points a race.

The points advantage to those behind could have been greater were it not for another strong drive from Alonso, who passed Rosberg, Webber and Hamilton to keep himself within touching distance of the German.

Vettel would have been hoping for some assistance from those behind to keep the Ferrari at bay, but as we have come to expect the Spaniard moved his way through from his sixth position start to limit the points loss to the Red Bull driver, in the process leap-frogging Kimi Raikkonen in the Championship.

Raikkonen – after bring dropped back on the grid due to a misdemeanor in qualifying -  was stuck in the middle of the pack for much of the race and the pace that Lotus promised in Free Practice never developed in to a podium challenge come the Grand Prix. He ended the race in ninth position and is now fourty-four points behind Vettel in the Championship.

Vettel had the race under control from the start; he had already cleared the DRS detection margin over the second car after the opening lap and was untouchable throughout the race. The battles behind drew more attention as the tyre issues that Mercedes have suffered during this first half of the season continued to hamper them. They held second and third places during the first stint of the race, but a decision to split strategies and put Rosberg on a second set of the super soft tyre – as the rest switched to the clearly superior medium – saw the German fall in to the clutches of Webber and Alonso and be prompted in to an early second stop.

The time Webber and Alonso lost behind Rosberg gave the sister Mercedes of Hamilton a ten second buffer over Webber and Alonso. But after making his way past Webber, in the closing stages Alonso quickly latched on to the tail of a struggling Hamilton and made his way past in the closing laps.

Hamilton was able to maintain his position until the chequered flag with Webber and Rosberg following him across the line, albeit with some distance between each position.

Hamilton lapping his old team McLaren was a poignant moment; McLaren did a poor job in qualifying, with Button missing his chance to do a lap at the end of Q2. But in the race they tried a couple of different strategies which did not work as the car didn’t really have the pace here; odd since they’ve always been strong in Montreal and won the three previous editions of this race.

Along with Vettel and Alonso the other main contenders for driver of the day come in the form of Jean-Eric Vergne and Paul Di Resta. The Frenchman made his way past third-place starter Valtteri Bottas early in the race and drove away from a large group behind, eventually coming home in sixth place.

After a poor qualifying, Paul Di Resta opted to start on the medium compound tyre and did not make a pit stop until lap 57, where he made a single stop for the super soft compound and gave Force India some good points on his way to seventh in their 100th Grand Prix.

It wasn’t a thrilling race, but it was interesting tactically and there were some good battles.

But with Vettel and Red Bull on this kind of form, going to the next race in Silverstone which is traditionally a strong Red Bull track, it’s hard to see how the others can stop him.

1. Vettel Red Bull 1h32:09.143
2. Alonso Ferrari + 14.408
3. Hamilton Mercedes + 15.942
4. Webber Red Bull + 25.731
5. Rosberg Mercedes + 1:09.725
6. Vergne Toro Rosso + 1 lap
7. Di Resta Force India + 1 lap
8. Massa Ferrari + 1 lap
9. Raikkonen Lotus + 1 lap
10. Sutil Force India + 1 lap
11. Perez McLaren + 1 lap
12. Button McLaren + 1 lap
13. Grosjean Lotus + 1 lap
14. Bottas Williams + 1 lap
15. Ricciardo Toro Rosso + 2 laps
16. Maldonado Williams + 2 laps
17. Bianchi Marussia + 2 laps
18. Pic Caterham + 2 laps
19. Chilton Marussia + 3 laps
20. Gutierrez Sauber + 7 laps

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  1. Tornillo Amarillo says:

    Vettel and Red Bull seem unstoppable… but even so Alonso did a good job, although he cannot afford to lose 7 points IMHO. Ferrari is in the fight however.

    A 3rd podium finish for Hamilton and showing good consistency, Mercedes fighting now 3rd in the Constructors’s. Not good for Kimi and Lotus and forgettable for McLaren, although Perez ahead of Button again.

    Nice F1 show, but poor real racing, insnt’it?

    1. Random 79 says:

      Was some nice racing between Webber / Alonso / Hamilton, but no, it wasn’t the most exciting race ever.

      I was kind of waiting for Vettel to add his name to the wall of champions – that would have livened things up :)

      1. Veteran says:

        His name is already there ;)

      2. Jake says:

        He does like to collect trophies so might as well take part of the circuit home with him imbedded in his right rear wheel rim. :-)

    2. blowndiffuser says:

      I felt this race was closer to the F1 I love. Yes tyres were still a factor, but people were fighting for position a lot more instead of letting others cruise by.

    3. Andrew Carter says:

      The irony is this is exactly what everybody has been asking for this year, a race were tyre ware isn’t a factore and everyone can push flat out all the time with a predictable result.

    4. Stuart Harrison says:

      Agreed, some interesting battles, but people fighting over positions 2-10 doesn’t make for a thrilling GP.

      Massa drove very well and made some great overtakes, I thought, my DOTD.

      I can’t say I’m looking forward to Silverstone with the form Vettel is in and the troubles everyone else is having – Lotus have dropped off a cliff in the past two races, I can’t see Merc tyres lasting long and Ferrari have had a run of bad luck. Not holding my breath…

  2. AlexD says:

    Have to say the fight between Alonso and Hamilton was breathtaking! Amazing drive, very intelligent….I thought they will collide, but it was Ok. Sadly Vettel is running away with it. Alonso is the driver of the day for me.

    1. [MISTER] says:

      Lewis was asked after the race about his radio conversation “just let me drive man” and Lewis said “yeah I was being hunter down by Fernando and that’s like being chased by a bull” :))))))


    2. Phil Glass says:

      Alonso was superb. But I feel that unless Ferrari can qualify on the front row, Vettel will be out of reach.

      Hey, what happened to Kimi? anyone know?

      1. Tornillo Amarillo says:

        Bad qualy, bad pitstop, bad cold weather, bad humour maybe…

      2. Doobs says:

        Maybe they should ask Pirelli to tweak the tyres to suit their car.. ;)

      3. Elie says:

        Radio communication was a soft brake pedal similar to what they had on Friday. There was some talk of brake balance issue also suggesting a KERS harvesting issue as -he was advised to dial brake balance all to the front, it was obviously very minor as he was able to hold ground– but a very poor weekend for Lotus nonetheless.
        24 point scoring episodes in a row was a small consolation.

      4. Zinobia says:

        The brake issue is a big problem, Kimi had to brake earlier at every turn. It also makes it difficult to overtake when you cant trust the braking distances. The brakes are very important around Canada.

        The problem was already there on Friday, Lotus should have fixed it for the race.

      5. Qiu says:

        A combination of things affected KR: Rear jack error in pitstop, brake issue from Friday popped up again, and fuel consumption problem.

      6. Rednas says:

        Problems with the brakes, with fuel consumption, another very bad pitstop from Lotus. And the car does not suit this track. Kimi did everything he could today, but the Lotus was just very bad. Hopefully he’ll join Red Bull soon.

      7. H.Guderian says:

        Saturday, during qualy, Globo TV (Brazil) guys said Kimi has a contract signed with RBR. Anyone heard something about that??? I’m praying to be true…..

      8. Kieran Mathers says:

        He slowed down to punch Perez in the face…

      9. Timmay says:

        Maybe someone take his ice cream?

    3. Sasidharan says:

      Yes, but Alonso needs qualifying lessons.

      1. AlexD says:

        Maybe from Massa…as he is very-very strong on a single lap.

      2. David says:

        It’s the car not the driver.

      3. Hansb says:

        Was that grid position because of Alonso or maybe the Ferrari ? You didn’t see Massa’s qualifying I guess ?

    4. Rishi says:

      Good battle between Hamilton and Alonso. I actually thought it was a really good race overall actually – the only problem from a spectacle point of view was that the leader was never threatened at any point.

      There were a few DRS passes where one guy just drove past the other but what impressed me was there were also a lot of really good overtakes too – either when all the cars were on DRS (because there was a queue of cars) or when one driver managed to stoutly defend position despite it. Also impressed – like in Bahrain – with how clean most of the racing was. Lots of wheel-to-wheel but very few collisions…they were even going side-by-side through Turns 3 and 4!

      1. Rishi says:

        A really good race when it came to the racing is what I meant but of course a very sad race when it came to events off it.

        I send my condolences to the friends and family of the marshal who died during the removal of Esteban Gutierrez’s car during the GP.

    5. Rockie says:

      What was breathtaking about it in lap times Alonso was a second faster than Hamilton.

  3. Steve says:

    It’s ominous that Vettel is doing well on tracks he traditionally does not do well on. This European stint (Montreal is European in terms of weather and track) is the part of the season SV has struggled a little on in years past. If he keeps popping up on the podium then his grip on the title will grow stronger.

    Mercedes seem to have come to grips with their tyre problems. Not completely, but they were much better today than at Barcelona or Bahrain where they qualified well and went backwards in a hurry. They’ll be winning races before the season is over I think.

    1. Martin says:

      Hi Steve,

      I feel that Silverstone will be a much better indication whether much has changed. High speed corners take a lot out of the tyres and Canada has none. Having a lot of downforce helps slow corner traction and braking to aid lap times without a large tyre wear penalty. Therefore the Red Bull was always likely to be good in Canada.

      Last year the McLaren had more downforce and got the strategy right, so it is not surprising that Hamilton won. 2010 was a weaker race, but if you look at the relative 2010 and 2011 performances at Spa and Monza, it was clear that a step up had been made at high speed tracks (possibly partly due to Renault despite the “freeze” on engine developments).

      With Mercedes, we saw one of the two cars do reasonably well, but the general tyre performance was really strong across the field. Firstly we only saw 1 or two stoppers based on wear. Rosberg might have been marginal if he had stuck to a two stopper without the lock up. The key here is wear. If you look at the fastest lap times tables, half the field set their fastest lap in the last three laps of the race. The tyres were not degrading, just wearing in Canada. If you look at Spain, the fastest laps were predominately ten laps before the end of the race across the field due to the tyres degrading.

      Degradation is normally the determinant for pit stops in F1, with Monaco and Canada being among the exceptions. Silverstone will be one of those tracks.

      The other thing to consider, and this will take speculation is how much Rosberg make Hamilton look good as Rosberg held back Webber and Alonso. Alonso took 0.5 seconds per lap out of Hamilton from their last pitstops. Vettel was cruising at the end (his fastest lap was on lap 55) and still finished well clear. Since Hamilton was racing all the way and was probably in reality at least 30 seconds behind Vettel on a track that doesn’t degrade the tyres that much, I’m not sure there is that much sign of progress. The Mercedes were closer in Malaysia, although that was relative to Webber rather than Vettel.

      1. Yago says:

        It was interesting to see how, after the second pit stop, Webber’s tires switched on in two laps, Alonso’s in three laps, while Hamilton needed almost six laps to start doing similar times to Alonso, loosing a lot of time. That was something I didn’t expected at all, and was the key for Alonso being able to get close to Hamilton.

    2. Roberto says:

      Yeah, Mercedes seems to have a much better handle on tire degradation now thanks to the return of in-season tire testing and aero development tests …………………. oh wait!

  4. Alexander Supertramp says:

    Quite the boring race.. It’s getting clear now, Ferrari really need to up the quali pace if they want to challenge Vettel. I think the Ferrari can match the RB in race trim, but it’s no use if you lose half a minute passing people.
    What is scary is that Vettel had a lot more in the bag than he showed, he started controlling his pace before half race.
    Is it realy normal that Vettel has a 2 second advantage after the first lap (Lewis got a clean getaway)? This is very much 2011 all over again. 3 wins in 7 races is what you might call domination. I don’t care what people say, RB yet again has the best car. Bring up 2014, the only hope to end RB’s rule of terror

    1. Sebee says:

      Call me a fortune teller. I predicted this domination. Can I take any credit for it? :-)

      1. Elie says:

        Yep you sure can he drove a superb race.It was the last GP he had to put in his trophy cabinet and boy did that motivate him

      2. Alexander Supertramp says:

        He has not won the USA gp yet ;)

      3. Andrew Carter says:

        He’s still got Austin to go.

      4. Rockie says:

        Germany and Hungary as well!

      5. Elie says:

        Correct sorry- imagine how bad he wants that now. Consider it one- especially how Lewis “took” it from him last year !

      6. Sebee says:

        The question is, will you all go see Vettel dominate and win at Silverstone? :-)

      7. Elie says:

        The last thing most people want to see is Seb dominate Silverstone because that would mean season almost won.
        I want Lotus to bounce back and stay in the championship fight!

    2. Timmay says:

      I am conceding 2013 to Vettel and I think the competitors are as well. Only some unlucky DNFs will stop him now.

      1. Alex says:

        If Grosjean and Maldonado make a pact to take him out at every opportunity I think the sport will forgive them

      2. paco says:

        Perez can help with this.. if he can catch Vettel that is..

    3. Doobs says:

      Vettel won this in quali due to the cold and wet conditions. Vettel was in clear air and able to control the gradually slowing Merc of Hamilton and his main rivals who started too far behind him to catch him. But it’s not over yet. The hotter weather over the summer months may hurt them so expect more shenanigans from RB.

  5. Colombia Concalvez says:

    Alonso lucky as usual, Hamilton was hold up by Sutil the whole time

    1. Alcides says:

      I think the only lucky here is Hamilton. He was gifted with a Championship for a point in the past.

      1. Gazza says:

        Some people just cannot get over Hamilton being a WDC in 2008 it seems.

        The last time a championship was won in a non World Constructers Championship winning car.

      2. Alan says:

        And the only champion in the last 22 years that won less 1st podium places thant the runner up: 2008, Lewis-5, Felippe-6. Isn’t that amazing too?

      3. Martin says:

        I’m not interested in arguing with anyone who suggests Massa is a better driver than Hamilton, even in 2008, but trying to link the constructors championship to the best car is simplistic.

        Raikkonen and Massa were both much more experienced than the two 2nd year F1 drivers at McLaren. Kovalainen did not have a great season and wasn’t at anywhere near Raikkonen’s level. That made the constructor’s championship a non issue.

        The reality of 2008 was that the relative performance of the Ferrari and McLaren was very track and temperature specific. The Ferrari probably had a tiny edge on the quantity of its downforce, but its suspension characteristics were such that it didn’t work its tyres as hard. Any time it was cold (Germany for example) or wet, the Ferrari couldn’t compete with the McLaren.

        The McLaren was the better car at many races and in others the Ferrari had the edge. The drivers were consistently performing at a high level and it generally came down to which team could get the car dialed in at a particular track.

        Certainly you could argue that if Massa hadn’t spun off in Malaysia after a dummy spit on Raikkonen’s strategic short filling, the engine failure in Hungary, Piquet plus the refueling mess in Singapore and the brain fade in Japan trying to pass Hamilton in Japan, then Massa could easily have won the title even if Hamilton was credited with the win in Belgium. All that could make an argument that the Ferrari on the whole was the better car, it also points to Massa’s and Ferrari’s errors rather than necessarily a brilliant performance from Hamilton.

        A faster car over one lap on average does not necessarily make a better car or team over a season. F1 is too complex for simplistic arguments like that. It also means that fans are able to hold all sorts of positions and try to justify them to the fury of others.

        2008 was a memorable season in some ways, but one statistics sticks in my head. There was not one dry track same strategy on track racing pass for the lead in the season. And with similar strategies, it was pretty clear that who got to the first corner first was going to win.

      4. AlexD says:

        No wonder, when the team wanted to do everything possible for a second driver not to win.

      5. F*ckYeah says:

        The same people from the same place who cannot get over him beating his team mate the year before as a Rookie, always looking for any bizarre angle to criticise…

      6. ed says:

        But didn’t Timo Glock in need to stop for sandwiches on that last lap in Brazil 2008 to allow Lewis to pass him? And didn’t EJ claim that Hamilton was ‘very lucky’ to have been gifted the WDC title.

        I think this is why many do not see Lewis as a true WDC.

      7. Phill says:

        Oh Gazza oh gazza oh gazza. We can tell who you are supporting…
        Only the British believe Hamilton should have won, and you’re all deluded with self bias. Glock gave him the point and the championship!

      8. Sebee says:

        All I will say is this. I bought a Toyota after 2008. It’s a champion maker car! :-)

      9. Gazza says:

        Phill, the only people deluding themselves are the ones who believe Glock drove slowly on purpose.!! I,am sure a lot of Brazilians believe Massa should have won, its called patronism and I wouldn’t be so crass as to call them deluded.

        Alan, the fact Massa won more races shows how good the Ferrari was in 2008. ie. Hamilton did not have a totally dominant car.

        How easy it would have been for Hamilton to have dropped it on that final lap, he didn’t, he held his nerve under extraordinary pressure and won the WDC. No luck involved at all, just guts.

      10. Bart says:

        @Phill – The track was getting wetter. Glock stayed out on slicks, while Hamilton pitted for inters. Does it not follow that Glock would run out of grip?

      11. David says:

        I agree

    2. [MISTER] says:

      You probably missed the part where Lewis was 4s ahead of Alonso, which reduced that gap to about 1.5s in 2-3 laps. It was clear that Alonso would catch Lewis sooner or later.
      Sutil didn’t help Lewis, indeed, but Alonso I believe had the pace to catch Lewis anyway.

      1. Sasidharan says:


      2. Robert says:

        Sutil was hoping that Alonso would pass Lewis FIRST, and then Sutil would let Alonso by very easily, and then hold up for a few blue flags when Hamilton tried to pass.

    3. anon says:

      The Ferrari was the quickest car all weekend, so it’s no surprise Alonso finished second.

      Really he should have challenged for the win.

      If a Williams can qualify third then the Ferrari which dominated practice (and has been fastest all season except Monaco) should be able to get on the front row.

      1. Marcelo Leal says:

        Alonso has the better car of the season, qualify only in the third row, and everyone thinks that is awesome…
        C’mon! Vettel should stop qualify at pole, and do like he did last year making positions from the last slot of the grid.
        Just tell me when was Alonso last pole???
        Actually, how many GP’s he has and how many poles?
        He can not do a flying lap…
        And again: Where is Kimi???
        James is allways saying Kimi will be on podium, Kimi has the pace to win the race…
        The only victory of Kimi was the one McLaren helped again.

      2. Doobs says:

        Ferrari weren’t quickest in Quali.

        Bottas was third in Q3 as he was on the track at the right time before the weather deteriorated and nobody was able to improve the times they’d set earlier in the session. Vettel even aborted his final run despite having just made it over the line.

        Oh and finishing second from P6 is challenging for the win. Better than any other driver managed anyway. Alonso does exactly what it says on the tin. But why let the facts get in the way of your hating eh?

      3. AlexD says:

        CN you thinking go as far as cars being quick or slow depending on weather conditions? Ferrari is not the quickest car……just see qualy results

      4. Anil says:

        It was a wet and cold qualifying. The Ferrari, lotus and force India all fall behind in those conditions.

      5. MISTER says:

        Your comparisson between the Williams and Ferrari is wrong. Williams run high downforce which helped in wet conditions, but hurt them in the race. Ferrari run less downforce in order to have a good race pace. This stuff is pretty simple for a F1 fan to understand I believe.

        It’s all about the compromise between qualy and race.

    4. Joel says:

      What Sutil did wasn’t right – and rightfully penalized for. However, Lewis had no chance against that Ferrari of Alonso, which was easily the fastest, may be slightly under RB. Lewis was helped with Alonso & Webber caught behind Rosberg.
      The problem with Ferrari is that it is slower in qualifying, or the driver is a weaker qualifier, comparatively speaking. On a race day, I truly think the Ferrari is as fast as RB.

      1. KRB says:

        Hmm, I think the RB9 was the fastest today. Webber’s wing was compromised in the collision with Van der Garde … what was with the lapped cars today, they were awful!! Did anyone else see Perez give Alonso the arm wave after Alonso lapped him? What was that about?!

      2. Sasidharan says:

        Desperation! He couldn’t get Stewards’ help to get the position back this time.

      3. Martin says:

        I think Alonso was unhappy at how long it took Perez to get out of the way (possibly plus Monaco) and so when Perez did let him by, Alonso came back right in front of him. Which is risky as it takes the air off the front wing of Perez and could potentially repeat what happened with Montoya in Turkey in 2005. Perez was trying to minimise his time loss (10 metres at 280 km/h is less time than at 150 km/h) and I suspect Alonso didn’t appreciate being held up through 3-7 and so forced Perez to lose time into the chicane by having to brake early.

        I’ll just note I only saw it the once, so there could be details that I missed if anyone wants to play judge and jury.


      4. Marcelo Leal says:

        Do you really think that this the car?
        Do you really think that “worst” that the Ferrari can be on qualifying, it is not better than a Willians?
        I don’t think so…
        The same way I don’t think the McLaren car is as bad as we are seeing JB and SP drive. I never saw a season with LH at McLaren. This is not coincidence. If Lewis was there, I’m sure the he would help on the development so the car would be better, and would be better than both guys are.
        The good driver always hide the deficiencies of a bad car. Imagine if Alonso was not at Ferrari. If we were judging the Ferrari’s car by Felipe’s performance… ;-)
        Everyone said last year that LH would not win for a very long time. And what we can see I think, is actually the opposite.. McLaren can finish a year without any win. That will be for the history! JB needs to become a top driver quickly, or he will be the ONE with such bad statistic for the team.

      5. Andrew Carter says:

        The drivers have a big imput on the handling characteristics of the car and can tell exactly how welldevelopments are working in relation to that (bolting on extra downforce doesnt always guarantee you’ll go faster, this is also why Button was the teams go-to man for evaluating developments over the last few years).

        There are serious problems with that car, and the team strategy, and it doesnt matter who’s driving it the car will still be slow.

    5. Jazzda says:

      Sutil didn’t hold Hamilton, instead provided him with the chance to use DRS

      1. Siobhan says:

        I thought that too.. I thought Hamilton stayed behind enough to be able to use the DRS to stay ahead of Alonso. I don’t think Sutil ignored the blue flags, more that Hamilton wasn’t close enough to overtake.

    6. Roberto says:

      “……Hamilton was hold up by Sutil the whole time”. Sutil didn’t do it on purpose. He didn’t see the blue flags because he distracted. Sutil was looking in his mirrors and wondering, “Is that the rat who said he was my best friend not long ago and then refused to help me when I needed his support”. What goes around comes around.

      1. David Goss says:

        It doesn’t matter what Sutil feels Hamilton did or didn’t do to him – on the track you are being paid to do a job and you keep it professional. For his efforts to block Hamilton, Sutil has lost his team (his employer, let’s not forget, who stuck their neck out a long way by hiring him again) several points. I can see Force India being very tight with Lotus and/or McLaren in the WCC, so those lost points could cost money.

    7. **Paul** says:

      Alonso would have passed Lewis with or without Sutil holding him up, the Ferrari is probably the fastest car on a dry track in race trim.

      Sutil was correct in getting a penalty though, as he did hold him up.

      It was interesting how the rules were applied though, when VET lost 3+s behind Kimi (pretty much an entire lap) Kimi gets no penalty, and although I don’t want to see Kimi get one, the time loss was ~3x higher than that suffered by Hamilton.

      Granted a position wasn’t at stake during that part of the race, but what if Vettel gets a puncture and finishes 2s behind Alonso? It’s not about who the driver is, it should be about implementing the rules consistently.

      I thought this race proved beyond doubt that Mercedes have learnt about tyre wear from their 1000km test (you know the one, where no one was allowed in and people trying to get access were told it was private GP2 test by security, the drivers used different colour helmets, the shutters on the garage were kept down and none of the team mentioned or tweeted about any of it… because it wasn’t secret!).

  6. Tornillo Amarillo says:

    SUTIL was blocking Hamilton, do you think that it is for blaming for Lewis losing P2?

    Why two DRS zones, really, no need here IMHO, too artificial overtakes.

    1. Martin says:

      With the gearing strategies the teams use, KERS can often be used to cover a DRS attempt, so having two zones makes KERS usage more relevant. The FIA wants strategic KERS use to be part of the driving tool kit in the 2014 rules.

    2. Andrew Carter says:

      I’d like to see them move one of the DRS zones to the straight between turns 7 and 8, would be more interesting that way I think.

  7. Alcides says:

    The problem for Ferrari here was one more time the classification. Alonso lost a lot of time in the traffic with the only car capable to run against the Red Bull.
    But the F1 is showing one more time the lack of commercial skills. A pace-car was in order in the last laps to see the great battle for the race.
    Now, the prefer to be purist and we’ve that dull race of Vettel in the front.

  8. Miha Bevc says:

    Great drive by Vettel and Alonso, but also Vergne and DiResta!

    Mercedes are getting better with the tyres. Hamilton was actually the last of the frontrunners to make 1st stop. I’m quite sure the ‘secret test’ helped them a little.

    Too bad for Kimi and his title challenge. James, you said he will be on the podium ;)

    1. Miha Bevc says:

      When was the last time a Toro Rosso was in the top 6? When Vettel drove it?

      1. Geronimo says:

        yep, Vettel’s 4th at the 2008 Brazil GP

    2. [MISTER] says:

      Vettel lapped Kimi on lap 35 I believe. That is sick! The RedBull in the hands of Vettel was mighty. And Webber wasn’t too bad, but just as Alonso, he was stuck in traffic and battles with others. Vettel benefited by starting P1 and that is always a bonus in a race.

    3. Calvinette says:

      Well, Kimi had trouble with his brakes (same problem as on Friday). And the pitstop was abyssmal. The pace just wasn’t there! In short, the race was what it was and what can you do? James couldn’t possibly have predicted these problems.

      I like Vettel and think he’s a formidable talent, but today was pure tedium at the front. He must have been bored beyond belief himself, driving on the grass just to wake up.

      1. Quade says:

        Yeah, he was bored enough to even practice a Grosjean moment with the wall. :)

    4. Zinobia says:

      Kimi had a brake problem, he had to break much earlier during the whole race. But their runs on Friday where already looking pretty bad.

  9. Srinivas says:

    simply awesome drive by sebastian!!! Redbull indeed had the pace to challenge ferrari.

    1. AlexD says:

      .??? Red bull has a dominant car…..

      1. Rockie says:

        Am guessing you don’t like Redbull but did you say Ferrari was dominant after Barcelona?

    2. H.Guderian says:

      I think it’s the opposite….

  10. Equin0x says:

    You put it perfecrly James, its hard to see how anyone can stop Vettel. This perdormance was like a man vs boys, to be fair though Alonso drove a blinding race and also Hamilton and Webber was top class too, shame Mercedes messed up Rosberg’s strategy, 2 stints on the SS tyres and then try a massive stint on the softs?? Come on Mercedes. I’ve always questioned Alonso’s pure speed but he answered that today.

    1. Joel says:

      I think Ross put Rosberg in SS to see how they compare against the trailing RB (Webber). If Rosberg actually thrived, I’m sure he would have planned to put Lewis on SS for the final stint (also may be the reason why he delayed Lewis’s first stop) – to give Vettel a run for the win. However, by mid-race, Vettel had built an unbeatable lead.

    2. Yago says:

      So you have always questioned Alonso’s pure speed, and had not been able to get an answer until today? LOL I guess you did not pay much attention to his drives during this past ten years… Or perhaps you started watching F1 in Monaco 2013, so then in a few races you will be concerned to find a driver who actually has comparable pure speed to Alonso… xD

  11. Candice says:

    how is Lotus’ pace promising in FPs?? They were 1sec / lap slower than both rbr and ferrari.

    And during the race kimi encounter rear brake malfunctioning…..and had to safe fuel as the team screw up.

    Another big screw up with pit stop further jeopardize his race.

    1. Zinobia says:

      Correct Lotus completely screwed up. I hope they haven’t completely fallen behind now.

  12. Quade says:

    What a wonderful race that was! No tyre issues, just great racing all round.

    It was the usual suspects on the podium again, but it must have been sad for Bottas after such a brilliant quali.

    Shame on Sutil for childishly blocking Lewis, he deserves even more punishment than the penalty handed out.

    1. [MISTER] says:

      I don’t want to burst your bubble and take anything away from Bottas, but in qualy, he did the opposite of DiResta did. He was out at the right time and put one great lap together. Just like Hulkemberg in Brazil 2 years ago.

      What I was impressed, but his race craft at the start of the race. He wasn’t over defensive, not aggresive, kept his racing line, left space for Sutil for example and the team should be proud of Valteri. I imagine it’s a lot of pressure the race wheel to wheel with the likes of Seb, Fernando and Lewis. He did great. I’ll keep an eye for him.

      1. KRB says:

        Yes, he did very well … sensible driving. Just too bad that the Williams is awful in the dry.

      2. I will says:

        When comparing him with the likes of GRO & MAL, he has a bright future. Hope he move to a big team.

      3. Antti says:

        I think your description of the quali is a bit unfair for Bottas. He was in top-4 in each stage of the quali; it wasn’t just a matter of putting one great lap together, he did it over and over again yesterday.

      4. MISTER says:

        You are right. I overlooked that unfortunately.

      5. Sasidharan says:

        Yes, definitely more mature and level headed than GRO & PER.

      6. KRB says:

        Totally … held off Alonso fairly on the first lap (or maybe it was 2nd), and then also gave proper room later on for him and Kimi to go thru turns 3 & 4 together.

        It’s silly to think you can make the car do things that it just can’t. Bottas apparently gets that.

  13. Gul says:

    Enjoyed that; was fun race maybe no one challanged for the race but was exciting to watch. 57 laps for Di Resta on those tyres good work. Shone through this weekend. And Sutil is a muppet! What was his excuse?! Thought Vettel handled that booing quite well too!

    1. [MISTER] says:

      Noticed that too. They booed him and then started shouting “Alonso, Alonso” :))
      Pretty funny!

      1. Doobs says:

        57 Laps on a set of tyres…bing on the hot weather and four stop stratgies!

      2. Kitty says:

        At first I thought I was hearing things soon but the booing and chanting became unmistakable.

      3. Veteran says:

        Not funny but a sad day for F1 if you cannot respect the rightfull winner.

      4. Andre says:


        Unrespectful people should stay miles away from F1.

    2. Quade says:

      Vettel is like robocop, a bit unlovable even if a champ.
      He’s like a little Arnold Schwarzenegger or a young Bernie Ecclestone.

      It was really poor that the Canadians booed him and cheered Alonso and Lewis though.

      1. Alexander Supertramp says:

        It’s poor, but I guess it’s people’s perception that he has it too easy. You have to admit that he’s very very talented though. He could not have pulled this off if he hadn’t qualified the way he did, which is the most important reason that he does a better job than Webber.

      2. Quade says:

        I’m one of those who believe he simply has a fast car and a so-so teammate. We are yet to see any real display of talent from Vettel. Even yesterday, he hit both hit a wall and went off track without prompting, while all alone up front.

        Vettel is fast, but so is Grosjean. In fact, I bet Grosjean would have had as many WDC’s as Vettel if he was lucky enough to be in a Red Bull. Would you say Grosjean is very very talented? I doubt it.

      3. Bart says:

        @Quade – Yet to see any real display of talent? What nonsense. So why did he string toether consistently strong results for Toro Rosso, finishing as high as 8th in the championship? Who else without talent won trhe championship 3 times?

        And to compare Vettel with Grosjean is laughable. Grosjean showed nothing in 2009, and is too busy under performing in a race-winning Lotus now. He would have ZERO championships for Red Bull, or anyone else for that matter.

        Sort out the bitterness mate.

      4. Quade says:

        Would you be so kind to give us three examples of such talent displays that can’t be attributable to a super-fast car?
        We would then be able to compare with abundant example from Alonso, Kimi and lewis.


    3. Anne says:

      Vettel deserved the booing. And this is my problem with Vettel. He is a great driver but I hate him when he is disrrespecting all the other drivers. He keeps pushing and painting in purple every sector despite having a rival 15 or more seconds behind him.

      1. Rockie says:

        That’s the kind of driver Enzo Ferrari loves thats how Gilles was I remember a quote from him saying I love a driver who whilst he has lapped the entire field still goes for the fastest lap just for the fun of it.

      2. Alexander Supertramp says:

        I guess there is some comparison to the great cyclist Eddy Merckx- the Cannibal who won everything. Big difference is that Vettel risks a lot by chasing fastest laps. You crash the car, you get 0 points. Those fastest laps mean NOTHING, Gutierrez has had it 2 times I think this year and the guy still has zero points. It’s not worth risking crucial championship points for. It’s a little immature and it actually reflects badly on Christian Horner who always asks him to slow down- in vain though.

      3. Glennb says:

        [sarc] Yes, I agree. Seb should back off and allow the others to have purple sectors. It’s just plain disrespectful. He should also allow some of the others to win from time to time. [\end sarc]

      4. Andre says:

        Funny comment.

      5. **Paul** says:

        Sorry let me get this correct – because I’m ever so slightly staggered – Vettel ‘disrespects’ all the other drivers because he keeps pushing when leading and thus deserved booing???

        Seriously? Really? !!! Wow. Just Wow.

        James are you reading this drivel? ! ? !

        My view is that the crowd was classless, Canadians used to boo Schumacher (because they love Ferrari so much eh!), because of what he did to JV at Jerez. Vettel by contrast is a very very clean racing driver yet they still boo. Sure if someone turns in on your favourite driver and takes him out of the race, boo, but when someone wins by putting in a great performance to boo is classless.

      6. Siobhan says:

        How is that disrespecting the other drivers?

      7. Anne says:

        Once he has a race undercontrol there is no need to keep pushing and pushing and a fastest lap and yet another.It´s nonesense. All he needs to do is to take it easy, keep and eye on things and nothing more. But he needs to show off and brag about it. I don´t think he is afraid of some driver who is 15 seconds behind him.

    4. f1aus says:

      Vettel deserved that for quite a few little things and i hope he went and cried to uncle red bull …and Eddie Jordan cutting him off was pure gold…i wish we had the wide screen view as i could almost see alonso waving back to the crowd and winding them up a bit…f1 still has passion!

      1. Tom says:

        I agree Vettel deserved to be booed, but not for the idiotic reasons posted above.

      2. KRB says:

        Yeah, what the hell was Eddie doing? He’d ask him a question, Vettel would start answering, and then Jordan would just blurt in “… and now to Fernando!” or something like that. It was very weird to say the least.

        Saw NBC’s F1-36 after the race, on Vettel. It was very good. I quite like Vettel’s off-track persona.

  14. Antti says:

    Vettel was simply untouchable, and Alonso drove great. On the NBC coverage, they showed footage that seemed to imply that Alonso had lapped a Sauber under yellows, but I’ve not seen this discussed elsewhere. Was there anything to it?

    Lotus seemed awful in the race, I hope they are not falling behind in development. I hear Kimi had trouble with brakes and fuel consumption, so maybe it was just a very poor weekend for the team and they’ll bounce back.

    1. Tay says:

      I saw NBC show Alonso passed on Yellows too. With no talk of it since, I’m guessing it was a residual light with greens on the wheel.

  15. Quade says:

    Whats going on with Kimi? Suddenly he seems to be drifting backward at alarming pace.
    I suspect that Lotus has run out of development money and can’t keep up any longer, Merc have now overtaken them in the constructors and Lewis will overhaul Kimi in a couple of races time.

    1. Candice says:

      car’s slow….kimi’s brake gone on opening laps….had to safe fuels after a handy of laps + a super slow pit stop.

    2. Doobs says:

      Cold conditions also don’t help them. They run the tyres very cool, maybe even more so when they change the construction for RB ;)

  16. Ghayth says:

    Great race and post one question to you james
    Did Alonso pass a back mark car under yellow
    NBC broadcast in USA showed it ?

    1. Sharon says:

      Alonso gets to do whatever he wants but if it was anyone else it would have been a big deal. I am so tired of two sets of rules; one set for Ferrari and one set for everyone else. How far up Ferrari rear end is F1?

      1. Angelina says:

        + 1000

  17. Richard says:

    James, I disagree when you ay this wasn’t a thrilling race! 1st position might not have been in doubt but the rest of the positions were challenged for until the last lap. I thought it was thrilling, close and clean racing!
    One very happy F1 fan!

    1. Steve C says:

      Hi Richard, Glad you enjoyed it, but I think James is right. It wasn’t a thrilling race! For a prime time spot on UK BBC/Sky Tv it was a major disappointment compared to previous Canadian races. The average viewer who may have decided too watch it because it was on must have thought why do fans find it interesting at all? But then not every race can be classed as a classic. Also very rude of the Canadians to boo Vettel. No need for that.

      1. Doobs says:

        RB made such a stink about the tyres and then Mercs ‘top-secret’ tyre test.. It seemed like everybody and his dog had something to say, from Mateschitz down to the cleaning lady, Vettel, Horner and Helmut, all whinging about something. Then they go and win a race and you can see why people are drawing various concluisons, right or wrong; RB are just seen as sore losers and bad sports….. For what is basically just a huge PR and advertising company they seem to be having trouble seeing the wood for the trees

      2. Bart says:

        RBR weren’t even the only team complaining.

  18. Dani says:

    James, please bring back the poll for the Driver of the Day post.

    1. Mitchel says:


    2. Me says:

      No… please don’t, there’s nothing worse than people voting for their favourite driver irrespective of performance.

  19. Sven says:

    Superb drive from Vettel. He was completely untouchable today. Driver of the Weekend.

    Kimi. :( Very disappointing result for him, but hopefully it was just a one-time thing.

    Good drives from Massa, Alonso, JEV, Hamilton, DiResta.

    Have to say the crowd booing Vettel was absolutely disgusting and pathetic.

    1. Zinobia says:

      I think Kimi did well under the circumstance. When you have to start braking much earlier, you will lose a lot. Kimi also had to conserve fuel, and he had a bad pitstop. Sometimes you just cant do much when everything goes wrong.

      1. Elie says:

        Yeah I just read somewhere his brake pedal went straight to floor in the first few laps and only improved slightly toward the end of the race. He had to dial brakes all to the front to compensate and obviously fighting the car as could be see from his onboard. I think P9 given his brakes and the delayed pit stop was quite a big effort almost like a podium drive without the recognition-this track is the heaviest braking circuit on the calendar and he did all this with 46 laps on the mediums!

  20. Joe_in_Miami says:

    The season is over. We are back to 2011. Hard tyres to the crying RB team. Nice step up Merc, especially after “not having learned anything” on those public tests in Bcn

    1. JoeP says:

      Wouldn’t Merc have actually won something today if they’d gained an unfair advantage testing 2014 tires for Pirelli? Pffft.

      1. Aaron Noronha says:

        yes but with all the controversy surrounding the secret test and the impending hearing they would rather keep their cards to their chest and sand bag for a few races until the controversy dies down and then show their true pace and claim that the gains are due to upgrades and are unrelated to the tyre test. Dont you think its odd that Hamilton didnt suffer so much degradation as spain? Although one can also argue that the cooler temperatures helped Mercedes but whatever Mercedes learned from the test will definitely help them sort out their setup issues. Remember the car fastest over a lap is also technically the fastest car on the circuit that would have dominated in and era where tyres were meant to last longer.

    2. Multi 21 says:

      You realise these were the exact same tyres (construction & compounds) they raced in Australia?

    3. Veteran says:

      RBR also was superior on the SuperSoft. Please remember that this is Canada, which doesn’t have any high speed corner. There doesnt go that much energy into the tyre here. Wait untill Silverstone.

    4. Joel says:

      If Rosber hadn’t held up Webber or Alonso in the start, Lewis would have finished atmost 4th. He was lucky to have got 3rd.
      I doubt Merc has made any progress since Barca with the tyres. This track just din’t expose them…

  21. paul grinnall says:

    He hit a wall and was lucky to do no damage, so I wouldn’t call it that.
    Dominant perhaps.

    1. Jazzda says:

      Hit the wall and an off-road in T1… without pressure from anyone? he simply has the best car, by far, and a B category team mate to make him look better than he really is.

      Another marketing made pseudo-super-champion well driven by a near perfect team since he was born.
      Damn, I’m bad… :P

      1. David C says:

        He won in a torro rosso, that is all

      2. Jazzda says:

        “He won in a torro rosso, that is all”

        Italy 2008, right? his race best lap was 2.5s below the fastest (Hakinnen) and more than 1s from his team mate (Bordais). Team merit, as usual?

        Anyway, that’s irrelevant. Even Maldonado won a race in a Williams, and Damon Hill got a championship. :D

      3. Bart says:

        @Jazzda – Hakkinen? In 2008?

        And maybe Alonso has a B category teammate making him look far better than he is?

      4. **Paul** says:

        Hit a wall and went off at turn 1, correct. Wasn’t that because he was pushing so hard? Probably. Faultless? Nope.

        To say RBR have the best car ‘by far’ is not true. On one lap pace the Mercedes is fastest (hence all their pole positions!), on race pace the Ferrari is the pick of the cars. Expect Ferrari and Lotus to battle it out at Silverstone if it’s anything like warm.

      5. Kenny says:

        tapping the wall means you are pushing to the limit it doent mean you lose control of the car. Driving off road could have been because he was falling asleep all by himself driving at 80% of his usual speed not because he had to save tyres but rather because no one could catch him. And the guy you call B category Team mate beat Rosberg the same dude who has been matching Hamilton this year.

      6. David C says:

        Hakinnen wasn’t racing In 2008 and Seb won the race, guitherez has the fastest lap at a gp this year, it dosent mean a whole lot. At weekend when it was raining he got pole and for all but a few laps led the entire race in a Torro rosso, that’s a good achievement for a 21 year old, hell in a torro rosso that would be a good achievement for senna. There is so much SB bashing around it just turns my stomach, yes he’s in a top team but he worked his way up by performing well lower down the field it’s not Luke he got the fastest car handed to him on his first race. Yes he gets excited, he’s 25 years old. I personally thought he was hugly professional on the podium, thanking sponsors and thanking the fans who were booing him, why were they booing him??? He won the race???

    2. mike says:

      James said almost

    3. Sugar Water says:

      +1. Agreed. That would have been a mighty awful embarrassment – seb taking himself out……

  22. Dragster says:

    Is it just me or is the new green podium background getting a bit hideous?

    1. Wade Parmino says:

      Don’t know about that, but I am hating this podium interview format more and more.

      1. Quade says:

        I think its done for the sake of those who physically attend the races.

      2. Quade says:

        Its not great TV, though.

      3. Tim says:

        I agree, it feels gimmicky to me. Also, who ever chooses the interviewer, please don’t give the microphone to Eddie Jordan again – he seems to be under the impression that he is some kind of rock star!

      4. Kitty says:

        Eddie Jordan was rather…dramatic? If they insist on these podium interviews I’d rather Brundle or Coulthard.

      5. Glennb says:

        MB, yes
        DC, nooooo. I think they swear just to embarrass him :)

    2. David C says:

      I miss proper flags : (

  23. goferet says:

    Shoot, a pretty flawless and dominant win there from Red Bull. It was a race of one up front so much so that Vettel himself dozed off in the middle of the race and hence had an off at turn one.

    Luckily for Red Bull, the last two tracks have been pretty gentle on the tyres and in true Red Bull fashion, they took advantage of the situation.

    But hey, good drive by Vettel, he did what he had to do during qualifying which set him up nicely for a comfortable win.

    Likewise, good come back drive from Alonso and Massa but with that piece of equipment, one is always left wondering what could have been if the team got all it’s ducks in a row.

    Good effort by Lewis for securing the last podium place and putting up a nice mini-fight with Alonso for the fans. However, Lewis owes this good result to the earlier work done by Rosberg who held up the chasing pack for quite some time.

    Shame about Lotus’ performance, the team is really beginning to miss James Allison’s input for the pace just wasn’t there.

    Splendid performance from Di Resta, for 57 laps on one set of tyres is a massive achievement and best of all brought in some good points for the team >>> well done.

    Likewise, Vergne did his stock a whole lot of good by finishing in P6 ahead of some big names.

    Overall, was a confusing race as we waited to see how the strategies would play out and the fact there was no safety car at Montreal was surreal to say the least.

    1. Andrew Woodruff says:

      I don’t think it was a confusing race at all – what were you watching?! Most on standard 2 stops, some stayed on the option too long and had to do 3, one or two managed a 1 stop – great drive Di Resta.

      Only a handful of dnfs for Vettel will bring Alonso back into it in any meaningful way now. The RB is too good, and Vettel is just too conistent with his pace in quali and race to be caught otherwise.

  24. Matt H says:

    Bit boring for my liking apart from massa and alonson it seems a forgone conclusion that vettel can have a off track excursion and still be miles ahead. Dude just has rediculous luck ! Hitting the wall would have ended most people’s race but vettel unscathed. Alonso excellent as Hamilton but felt Hamilton got badly held by sutil and slightly by massa which would have kept his p2 but otherwise still a decent result. Damn I sound bitter but just bonkers that although good as vettel is u cannot say he is 20 seconds faster than alonso and Hamilton if they were on equal terms ! Just has a unbelievable car. Oh well roll on 2014 season hopefully a bit more exciting than number 4 for vettle. : /

    1. Aj says:

      Maybe not 20 seconds faster, but you can bet your bottom dollar is faster than both

    2. Nesto says:

      Clear air. Along with RB and Vettel’s qualy advantage, we all know after 2011, all he has to do is pull that gap to stay out of DRS (which I’m still unsure how he does that in the opening laps) and then he manages his tires and the race.

      Only Alonso and Ham can seem to rattle him (or his chassis) but they don’t quite have the all-around car that Vettel does. Fast in qualy and race and manage tires well. Then once everyone fights behind him or gets stuck behind another, race over sadly.

    3. David C says:

      It depends on how hard you hit the wall!!! For example had he made a bigger mistake and hit the wall harder he would have had to retire, however he made a smaller mistake and didn’t hit the wall hard enough to break his car. That’s not luck that’s not making a big enough mistake. As for his excursion he had a large gap not because of his lucky horseshoe but because he got pole in difficult conditions, made a perfect start and raced fast in the same car MW has. When you work 40hrs a week and on Friday get paid do you consider that a lucky break …… No its getting what you earned.

      1. Hansb says:

        Oh common, when you hit the wall like that you clearly lost control of the situation. And when you start losing control you take counter measures but simply can not predict anymore how hard you will touch the wall.
        He was lucky that tyre, rim or suspension linkage didn’t fail.

      2. Bart says:

        Same with Rosberg when he hit the wall in Monaco Saturday practice. If he took damage there, he misses quali, and no race win.

      3. David C says:

        Clearly post control of the situation, He didn’t even notice he had hit the wall!! Had he not turned at all he would have damaged his car beyond repair, had he turned perfectly he would not have touched the wall, in between those two outcomes there is a point where it changes from a not finish to a DNF, he didn’t cross that point. He wasnt lucky he just wasn’t bad enough to DNF. The guy won the GP so why focus on this non event.

    4. **Paul** says:

      If you’re not near the wall you’re not pushing hard enough, maybe that’s why Vettel won….

  25. Roger W says:

    No mention of the sad sight of the McLaren’s trailing round looking like back markers. They seem so far off the pace I wonder if there is much more wrong with the car than they are really letting on.

    1. KRB says:

      Horrible. Glad that Lewis wasn’t a part of that debacle.

      End of their team points-scoring run:


      Ferrari likely will pass them in Abu Dhabi this fall.

    2. JoeP says:

      Button was at his most pathetic and demoralized in the post-race interview, too – and I say that w/o being critical of JB, just pointing out how shattered he seemed.

    3. Nesto says:

      they’re simply on the backfoot and can’t salvage their season like Ferrari last year. the design is broken and its too late for them. HUGE mistake when they had a dominant car last year. Button and Perez aren’t getting on, one is reliable and the other faster but sloppy. Hamilton is missed I’m sure.

      1. JTodt says:

        Has Paddy’s defection affected McLaren’s usual (albeit impressive) ability to develop their car?

        How much has the introduction of the Front Pull-rod suspension contributed to the car’s aweful performance?

      2. Doobs says:

        They took a gamble with their car design this year though I have trouble understanding why; the old one wasn’t exactly shabby. They should write off this year and work on the 2014 car.

    4. Timmay says:

      Whats sad about that ? – they deserve what they have got this year.

      1. Roger W says:

        It’s sad because they are a great British team, and they do not deserve “what they have got this year”…

  26. Sugar Water says:

    Another great drive from Alonso ……driver of the day hands down

    1. Dutch Johnny says:

      Good drive yes but driver of the day? He has arguble the best all round package, and had help from a caterham which ruined webbers car making it easy to pass. His move on hamilton was good ofcourse but nothing special. It looks since mid 2012 that everything alonso does seems magic…(This is not aimed at you but more a general observation)and i believe that aint true.

      1. Quade says:

        Alonso might have a nasty character, but he is undeniably a very talented driver. The only two that can touch him are Lewis and Kimi.

      2. Rockie says:

        Its funny you mention drivers in same category as him because Vettel is well clear of the drivers you mention.
        Thank God for Vettel as without him Alonso would have been hailed beyond his capabilities.
        When people say he’s the best driver on the grid just makes me chuckle he was brought in to Ferrari to help lead them but he’s done no such thing also his poor qualy strength has hampered Ferrari a lot in the standings.

      3. Andre says:

        Vettel ;)

      4. Kenny says:

        If so then why is he so afraid of Vettel joining him as a team mate its understandable why he wouldnt want Hamilton but If he really thought he could beat Vettel he would rather welcome him at Ferrari to prove to the world once and for all that he is the best there is. Did you also notice that the president of Ferrari actually went on record to say that he would rather have Vettel than Hamilton you think the think tanks in Ferrari are all idiots who dont know what they are talking???? Or the president of Ferrari is an idiot to go on record and stick his neck out for Vettel?

      5. Quade says:

        I said the only two drivers that can touch Alonso are Kimi and Lewis. Whenever the drivers have voted amongst themselves for who is the best, they’ve always voted Alonso. That is something that has happened over and over and over in the last few years. Who knows more about driving talent than the drivers themselves? I’m a Lewis fan, but I have to accept what the drivers themselves have said repeatedly.

      6. Bart says:

        @Quade – You present an argument that Alonso is the best, but fail to provide anything that says Kimi and Hamilton are somehow the 2nd and 3rd best (or “only two that can touch him”).

        The team bosses vote for the best drivers every year. Over the last 4 years, Alonso was voted the best twice (2010, 2012), with Vettel being voted as the best twice as well (2009, 2011). Even in the 2 years Alonso was voted the best, Vettel was considered 2nd best by the team principals.

      7. Andre says:

        The problem is NO ONE KNOWS who is really the best.
        There are no FACTS that can support your theory.

        Everyone can clearly see that there are some drivers with that extra talent. And those are with out a doubt, Alonso, Hamilton, Raikkonen AND Vettel. Differences are very minimal and unprovable.
        Closely behind are Button, Webber, Rosberg

      8. **Paul** says:

        “He has arguble the best all round package”

        True IMO. On dry weather race pace it’s probably the fastest car, and 3rd fastest in qually. The best overall compromise on the grid. So far Alonso has probably underperformed this season, Kimi & Vettel overperformed.

        Alonso hasn’t qualified well, made some errors in Malasia, didn’t drive well in Monaco, errors in qualifying for Montreal… granted Bahrain wasn’t his fault.

        If Red Bull dominate at Silverstone I’ll change my view of who has the best car (and I’m talking race pace, not 1 lap Mercedes style). If Fernando wins then he really needs to take the championship in 2013, because to lose with the best car (looks at HAM & McLaren in 2012) doesn’t really look great on his C.V. !

    2. Nesto says:

      Great drive but even as an Alonso fan, we got beat fair and square. I thought overtaking would be easier but he needed to pass everyone early to get to Vettel. It would have been a good fight.

    3. Veteran says:

      Driver of the day for doing nothing special? VDG rammed Webber, and passing a Merc on a straight with DRS isn’t that difficult this season. He even damaged Hamiltons wing in the process. Not that great a drive from Alonso if you ask me.

  27. Yassin says:

    Hi James,

    Do you think Lotus have dropped back on the development side, they seem to be slowing down?

    1. James Allen says:

      Not really, the car had pace here but Kimi had to save fuel from early on and Grosjean got compromised on strategy today, so not easy to draw too many conclusions

      1. Candice says:

        and he lost his brakes…same issues as friday. Plus a super slow pit stop to make things worst.

      2. Elie says:

        In the heaviest braking circuit on the calendar. All considered it was a huge effort to finish 9th.

  28. H.Guderian says:

    Anyone still saying Ferrari has the best car???

      1. H.Guderian says:

        Did you watch the race???? 8-)

      2. David C says:

        I saw the race Ferrari and RB very close, look at FA and MW before ME sustained his damage.

      3. Me says:

        Yes, as it was on the BBC, I could watch the race.

    1. Nesto says:

      Its all about being in clear air. It would be great if Vettel and Alonso would start from the front row together then we’d see what would happen. The darn Mercs are high qualifying buses. (of course I’m concerned about next year after the infamous tire test)

    2. JCA says:

      Well, there were no long high speed corners, give it till after Silverstone.

    3. Multi 21 says:

      Only on hard or medium tyres, and only in race conditions, and only on tracks with high tyre degradation characteristics.

    4. anon says:

      Ferrari were the quickest today. Alonso just blew by cars out of that final chicane. Even Massa did. Only race they haven’t been quickest is Monaco and I suppose Australia, but that was more due to the conditions on the day. Alonso will be favourite to win at Silverstone.

      Alonso ruined his weekend with a poor qualifying performance. If Bottas can get a Williams into third then Alonso should have been able to stick his car on the front row if he was good enough.

    5. krischar says:

      There is no need for any wait, Ferrari are only second best in montreal

      Vettel and RBR had more pace in the bag

      It’s quite scary and i now understood why RBR have moaned about pirelli from Australia.

      Anyone who think Ferrari is the quickest car, need to have a reality and sense check

      Well done alonso for a fantastic drive.

      It makes me to chuckle a lot when people say vettel drove well. Vettel easily made some rookie errors on a dry track and yet won the race by some margin.

      1. Me says:

        It makes me chuckle when people think it’s all down to Alonso overtaking people.

        You can’t do that in a bad car.

      2. **Paul** says:

        Ferrari 2nd best in Montreal, probably yes, but not by much, not much at all. Contrast with the wins in China, Barcelona and the performance of the Ferrari in Australia. In Bahrain and Malaysia the Ferrari may have won was it not for mechanical issue/driver error.

        They have the fastest overall package, and that will be shown again at Silverstone where I expect Alonso to win if it’s 18c+.

    6. Joel says:

      Absolutely, they have the best car in race trim. Too bad their poor qualifying is hurting them.

    7. Aaron Noronha says:

      A true representation of a cars pace can be judged at a circuit like Spain and not in Canada. A car which is the fastest in Spain is the best over all package if you dont believe me you can ask any expert. Monaco, Canada do not represent the actual pace of the cars. Silverstone will be a better representation. One more factor that massively helped Redbull and Mercedes but hurt Lotus and Ferrari was the cooler temperature. The Cooler temperature prevents Lotus and Ferrari from getting their tyres up to temperature while at the same time it helps Redbull and Mercedes by reducing their tyre wear.

  29. Anne says:

    Thank you Alonso, Hamilton, Massa and Raikkonen for those great battles. I want to see plenty of that again in Silverstone.

  30. James McNulty says:

    What do you make of Vettel getting booed on the podium? It’s not the first time!

    How do you think this fits with Red Bull? first and foremost they are a drinks company. Having their star driver being seemingly in popular cannot be good marketing!

    1. Steve says:

      “What do you make of Vettel getting booed on the podium?”

      My take-away from that is that a segment of fans are turnip-heads whose parents neglected to spank them as children. Really, how classless can some people be?

      1. James Allen says:

        There were a lot of Hamilton fans and Ferrari fans – it’s normal. He handled it well.

        Hamilton had it in Monza when he won there..

      2. Steve says:

        There was some abuse dished out to LH in Monza which I also thought was unacceptable.

      3. Sugar Water says:

        Candid reality is RB product and marketing machine appeal to a certain demographic. Ferrari, Mercedes, etc altogether another demographic – obviously. F1 folks here at the race don’t align well with the former as not to many of them are driving a tin can with 4 wheels stuck in it :). The later simply relate and associate best with high end, technically superior and sophisticated automobile’s and “cache”. When Seb grows up he’ll understand that and tow his wagon to one of the “car companies”

      4. Peter says:

        James, you say it is normal but has it always been that way? Booing the winner, I mean. Was it like that after every race 10 years ago (I don’t seem to remember it)? 20 years ago (before my time)?
        Our is it a recent phenomenon? It’s very WWF1 to my mind. Maybe I just can’t believe I hadn’t noticed it before. So childish and detrimental to the sporting image.

      5. David Young says:

        For the prices the fans paid for their tickets, they’re allowed to boo.

      6. Andre says:

        To boo the winner? Very very mature.

    2. Tyemz says:

      Who knows? He likes throwing toys out of his pram; maybe some of the kids complained he threw his toys at them.

  31. peter jones says:

    US TV showed Alonso passing Gutierrez under yellow with about 15 laps to go just before turn 13. Has anyone said anything about this?

    1. James Allen says:

      Not that I am aware of.

      Will check

      1. Winter says:

        Its on Youtube now:


        Clear as water. Alonso passed under the yellow lights blinking (which were for the wing of Webber at the chicane in front).

      2. James Allen says:

        Yellow light zone starts at the light

        Hard to see if he’s past before then

      3. Multi 21 says:

        It IS a red/yellow flag. Watch the youtube video again and wait until 18 seconds into the video and pause.

        You will see a red AND yellow light.

        It does not mean DO NOT PASS, it means loss of grip (aka oil) or debris on track.

      4. slim says:

        red and yellow. like vettel in brazil

    2. Nesto says:

      apparently its a Red/Yellow, which means slippery or something. they showed it here in the US, Matchett pointed it out.

    3. Multi 21 says:

      I’ve downloaded the F1 live timing data and scoured the race. The app automatically shows sectors under marshal flags. The only thing I can find that is similar is a red&yellow flag for the final/chicane.

      I noticed earlier in the race (maybe Maldonado & Sutil) it appeared that the yellow lights were flashing when it was actually a sector under red&yellow.

    4. Racyboy says:

      Does it count if you’re lapping the car you pass?

    5. Sharon says:

      Yes, TV coverage even replayed it but then again remember it is Ferrari and they get preferential treatment – always!

  32. Rob Newman says:

    I wouldn’t say this was an exciting race. And what was all that booing during the podium interview? Vettel was simply fantastic. If it wasn’t for a silly backmarker, Webber would have finished behind him.

    I don’t think Hamilton’s behaviour was good when he was overtaken by the Ferrari. He didn’t have to break his front wing. I didn’t see the the top three drivers spoke anything before going on to the podium. Strange.

    1. [MISTER] says:

      Considering Alonso finished 11sec in front of Webber, I seriously doubt Mark could’ve fend-off Fernando to the end.

      1. Jack Flash says:

        Mister, you clearly do not understand the loss-of-down-force impact of a significantly and asymmetrically broken front wing. Major losses in affectivity in front braking.

        With 25 laps to go, at a mere loss of 0.4 sec per lap, that 10 second gap from Webber to Alonso is explained. That Red Bull was winged duck, which Alonso duly passed with a little patience, and all braking performance at his disposal.

        The only reason Red Bull didn’t try to change it out, was they’d lose just as much time doing that (10-12 sec). So, RBR was hoping for some net gain in leaving it be.

      2. MISTER says:

        And how do you explain the fact that Webber set the fastest lap of the race? How do you explain the fact that Webber was fastest/faster in the laps after part of his wing fell of?

        I agree that it cost Webber some time by that missing part, but definitely not as much as you try to imply.

    2. Hal says:

      Alonso broke very early to reduce Hamilton’s speed on exit (Coulthard commented as much) so I think he did well not go into Alonso. Fair racing in my books.

    3. Nesto says:

      yeah Hamilton came very close to not being so “intelligent” as Alonso puts it. I didn’t like what happened in the hairpin beforehand, Lewis seemed to come to almost a complete stop.

      1. Quade says:

        That was driver skill on display. You emerge slowly from a corner when you’ve got a slower car, but superior traction. That way, you can bolt off before the faster car can react.

        Alonso (faster car with inferior traction) also did the opposite when Lewis ran into him. He slowed into the entrance of the corner to counter Lewis superior traction.

        They are both excellent drivers and neither complained of the others driving.

      2. Yago says:

        I think both were amazing movements!!! Whenever they meet on track, you have the sense they are going to do something special. That was the case today, absolutely amazing fight, with two superb defensive maneuvers! I don’t think you can see anything better than these two fighting on track, not only from today F1 but since Senna-Prost era.

    4. Ross says:

      Alonso didn’t have to move over until the middle of the corner, away from the racing line either…. considering Hamilton was on the racing line.

    5. Tornillo Amarillo says:

      The top 3 drivers did not speak, because Vettel wins and it is not funny and he has talked about the Test-gate, and between Alonso and Hamilton were not too clean on track today…

    6. slim says:

      why would hamilton want to talk to the ones who protested his team. vettel esp

    7. Joel says:

      You are naive if you think that Hamilton broke his wing and it is entirely his fault. braked early and cornered Hamilton behind and at this point, Hamilton’s only choice is to brake hard. He did well to save his whole front wing. However, I consider this to be fair racing, nothing unfair here as this is how racing should be. To make a big deal and assign blame here is childish nitpicking…

  33. Hugy says:

    Great drive from Vettel and Alonso. Hamilton didn’t look too happy, though, he didn’t wear his mercerdes cap during the podium interview or in the post-race conference.

    1. Steve says:

      Actually Hamilton never seems to wear his cap, which I’d think was a violation of team policy. They need their advertising space after all.

    2. anon says:

      I agree Hamilton didn’t look to happy. Neither did Alonso. Both predicted before the season that each other would be their biggest rival for the championship but young Sebastian is stealing the show again!

      1. David Young says:

        There’s a photo in the Toronto Globe & Mail showing a frowning Vetel and Hamilton.

      2. Tim says:

        You are right, Hamilton did not look happy – not sure why he had the hump, maybe he didn’t like coming third. But you are definitely wrong, stating that Hamilton had predicted he would challenge for the title this season. He was at pains, pre-season, to play down any expectation of good results.

      3. Nick says:

        They didn’t say that they considered each other to be their biggest rival; for the championship, they said that they considered each other to be their most respected rivals, all things being equal.

    3. Joel says:

      I thought it was a payback to Pirelli for their “help: :)

  34. John says:

    Most fans Top 3 drivers took the top 3 positions. A shame that neither Hamilton nor Alonso could challenge Vettel today but it was enjoyable watching Alonso battle with Hamilton, Webber and Rosberg. Massa did well to get Kimi right near the end.

    1. Nesto says:

      it was only our 2nd Alonso, Ham, Vettel podium after Austin last year.

  35. Steve says:

    It looked like Alonso passed Gutierrez under a yellow flag at one point. I kept expecting a drive through but nothing was ever given for it.

    1. Steve Polychronopolis says:

      It wasn’t a pass for position, which is why Alonso wasn’t penalized. Back markers were pretty bad in this race, Alonso was racing for a podium, he needed to get around Gutierrez and he did so. If he had passed Webber there, he’d have been given a drive through.

      1. Antti says:

        Whether it’s a backmarker or not is irrelevant. I don’t think Alonso did anything wrong in this case, but if he actually had passed a backmarker in a yellow flag zone, he certainly should’ve been punished.

    2. Nesto says:

      Red/Yellow apparently, its different.

  36. Vinola says:

    I’m normally quite neutral about Vettel, although I do turn the audio off if he wins pole or a race as I can’t bear his whooping noises. However, this was not a faultless drive from Vettel; he clanged the wall and was lucky not to damage his car, he missed apices several times ( in a dry race with comfortable lead) in manner reminiscent of his losing his lead to Button a couple of years ago. As Lewis has said, he’s the least technical of the top the top drivers, but he gets away with it because his car is that good. I’m not impressed by this showing.

    1. KRB says:

      The car is obviously great, best of the bunch. Both of the Red Bulls had great starts today, and it’s crazy how quick Vettel pulled a gap out of turn 2 on the first lap.

      He hit a wall, and did some rallying after turn 1 one lap, but there’s no doubting his quickness. The others have to up the performance of their cars, to put pressure on Vettel. I think he is susceptible to making mistakes when pressured, but today was a stroll for him.

      1. Vinola says:

        I have no doubt he’s quick, and I agree, a more competitive team mate will show his brittleness. Again, as others have pointed out, this was not a “faultless” drive.

      2. Sugar Water says:

        +1. Seb is Not held in the same regard as Alonso, Hamilton, etc here in Canada. Many feel he is quite immature despite his tender years. We have much younger hockey players in the NHL displaying much more poise and tact…..

      3. Bart says:

        Well, I haven’t seen Vettel make constant remarks about his competitors getting lucky like Alonso/Hamilton do about Vettel. Vettel just gets on with the job, and keeps winning, which displays more tact and poise than the drivers you mentioned.

    2. David says:

      Speed trumps technique.

    3. Steve says:

      “I’m normally quite neutral about Vettel”

      And Marx was a big fan of capitalists.

      “As Lewis has said, he’s the least technical of the top drivers”

      And yet Lewis has crashed out of more races than Seb has. In fact Vettel now has the record for the most GP’s without a DNF caused by a crash – 58. Not bad for a guy who supposedly can’t drive.

      1. Doobs says:

        It’s easy not to crash when you’re at the front in clear air in (usually) the fastest car

      2. Quade says:

        When your car is so fast that you always start in front, then you don’t tend to crash into others. However, Vettel has crashed just overtaking backmarkers. Remember Kathikiyen? Crashing into backarkers is something Webber is also fund of, maybe its something in the Red Bull tea.

      3. Spinodontosaurus says:

        Spouting nonsense over the internet is also extremely easy to do when sat at a computer screen.
        Karthikeyan hit Vettel, not the other way around. This was evident over a season ago. It’s time to let that one go I think.

        One of these days people will run out of excuses and may finally be able to accept Vettel as a great driver. Or maybe not.

      4. Quade says:

        Haha! Brother man, the video is on youtube (another joy of the internet).
        But surely, its got to be a mystery how a dismally slow HRT could have caught up to a faster Red Bull to crash into it. No? :)

        Common sense says one of two things happened:
        a. Vettel overtook and immediately stood on the brakes.
        b. Vettel cut across the HRT before the overtake was complete.

        Methinks b is the answer.

      5. Bart says:

        @Quade- Karthikeyan admitted fault the stewards saw it as Narain’s fault, and they had more insight into it than you.

      6. Richard says:

        It isn’t that difficult to crash when your 20 miles down the road is it.

      7. Bart says:

        It”s not that easy to get “20 miles down the road” in the first place, is it? And don’t tell me about “the car”. If Hamilton or Alonso dominates a race, you’d just be telling us it’s all about their talent.

      8. Joe B says:

        C’mon – when he crashed into Senna in Brazil last year, that was a crash that would’ve ended 9 out of 10 races. Vettel has speed and consistency, and also incredible luck; that’s what’s making his continuing success so frustrating.

      9. Anne says:

        More than incredible luck it seems he has an incredible car. It doesn´t matter if it is a big crash only an alternator problem can stop that car.

      10. Tutti says:

        Your frustrations shouldn’t lead you into talking nonsense. Senna came very hot into Lago and hit Seb’s rear tire with his front. How is that Vettel crashing into him?

    4. Martin says:

      Do you have a reference to Hamilton’s quote on Vettel? A quick google search didn’t yield much. At one level it seems odd to me as it rare that Vettel ends up with a car he is unhappy with regardless of issues on Fridays. He was credited with pushing the 2012 car development in the direction it went rather than trying other things, so that suggests he at least knows what he needs to go fast.

      1. Vinola says:

        I meant “technical” in reference to on track driving skills. I paraphrased LH a bit, but here is a direct quote “Sebastian misses four apexes on a single lap and still goes quickest. He goes off and he still goes quickest. And I think ‘Holy crap, I couldn’t do that lap even if I was on the limit’. His car is just that far ahead of everyone else’s.”


      2. Aaron Noronha says:

        Hamiltion is just being a little less charitable because he envies the success that Vettel is having. Ironically He forgets how he got to drive a competitive Mclaren in his first year and nearly won the championship in his first year but drove into the gravel on the way to the pitlane. Yet is very fast to criticize Vettel for having a fast car which is just being petty. He had the fastest car for 2/3 of last year but he couldnt win the WDC, again someone might argue that he had retirements and reliablities issues or plain bad luck but Vettel won the WDC in 2010 retiring 5 times when heading for what looked like an easy Victory. He had his fair share of bad luck last year too with Narain Karthikeyan crashing into him retiring from the European Gp while leading the race being send back to the end of the grid for a refueling penaly and the crash with Bruno Senna in Brazil and yet somehow he still managed to win the WDC is nothing sort of impressive. Alonzo and Vettel earned their spots on their teams by working their way up. Vettel got promoted from Torro Rosso because he impressed by winning in Italy in wet conditions by not just by securing pole but also by winning the race. I am sure some idiots will say he was driving a Redbull clone if so then where was Webber, Coultard and his other team mate the other Sebastien???? FYI Webber finished 10th, Coultard and Sebastien Bourdais a lap down. And Vettel yet has to be beaten by his team mate. While Alonso was beaten by Hamilton and Hamilton has been beaten twice by Button. This year Rosberg is basically doing a pretty good job by matching Hamilton and its too early to say who will prevail among them before until the last race Rosberg has definitely silenced his critics and put Hamilton in his place. And yeah before someone calls Webber a no 2 driver remember he did beat Rosberg when they were team mates at Williams

      3. Vinola says:

        @Aaron, you did not address LH’s observation- Seb misses apices quite a bit and that the car makes up for his deficiencies, meaning less technically competent car will be more penalizing in terms of speed.

      4. Bart says:

        @Vinola – And yet LH exaggerates on SV missing 4 apexes in a lap. He doesn’t even give a clear example of it, he just states it, and the same term is repeated in the internet in a misguided manner. For me, like with Aaron, LH was just showing his envy.

    5. Quade says:

      You aren’t the only one that turns the audio off when Vettel wins. Lol!
      I wonder why the FIA broadcasts such juvenile behaviour, its absolutely horrible and unbecoming (the only worse thing is the rude finger).

      1. Andre says:

        “I wonder why the FIA broadcasts such juvenile behaviour, its absolutely horrible and unbecoming (the only worse thing is the rude finger).”

        Really?? Is it that bad? Omg you must have a difficult life when such things bother you that much.

      2. Bart says:

        So cheering after winning a 300km race is juvenile and should be censored now?

      3. Sugar Water says:

        This view is widely held. As I noted much further above in this thread the race fans I sat amongst shared this view and many went over to boo Seb during the award ceremony….

      4. Andre says:

        What on earth is wrong with Vettel???

    6. Wilma the Great says:

      After accomplishing a near 20sec lead, he deserves a small nap, don’t you think?

      1. Vinola says:


    7. Martin says:

      Thanks for the link to the telegraph article. I feel – borrowing some of Mark Hughes’ analysis of the driving styles of Alonso, Hamilton and Vettel – that this is in part due to driving styles.

      Hamilton aims to brake as late a possible, using a line that usually has a lower mid corner speed than what Button would have. He drives a shorter distance and aims to rotate the car quickly. The nature of his line is such that with an early turn in, he is likely to hit his apex.

      Alonso’s current technique tends to be to induce understeer, and so with an early turn in, he would need to greatly overestimate his entry speed to appear to miss an apex. If the front grips too much then he has to take off lock to hit the apex.

      Vettel, to fit in with the exhaust blowing of the diffuser is looking to maintain corner speed and throttle position. So in estimating where the grip is, if he overshoots he’ll take a longer line and maintain the rear grip with the exhausts rather than compromise the corner speed to hit the apex. I cannot think of many occasions where Vettel has run off track an got pole. A few possibilities would be at Melbourne and Monza where in faster turns (14 at Albert Park and the second Lesmo) he’d trade off maximum traction for greater speed.

      Maldonado is another who favours corner speed and will take a longer, wider, line if necessary to keep it. It comes in part from trying to estimate what the grip level is as the track evolves in qualifying. If you drive to what is was on your out lap then you’ll lose out to someone who is a bit bolder.


      1. Vinola says:

        Martin, plausible explanation, but if it’s true it doesn’t explain the inconsistencies..i.e, one would expect him to consistently miss apices unless there is a direct correlation between a particular approach to specific turns?

  37. Tom in adelaide says:

    Qualified 3rd, finished 14th? Something is wrong with Formula 1…….

    1. [MISTER] says:

      It’s called getting a very good lap together at the right time on a fast drying circuit.

    2. Brick Tamland says:

      It’s called rain. Bottas only qualified up in 3rd due to a wet track, once it dried out his terrible car had nowhere to hide. Something is wrong with Williams F1.

    3. Nesto says:

      it was a wet qualy and the Williams didn’t belong there. Bottas put together a great lap but Williams is point-less this season if you haven’t noticed. As in, not a single top 10 finish all year.

    4. Tyemz says:

      Maybe not. qualified 3rd in different conditions with a usually back-marking car, raced in entirely different conditions against more superior drivers and machines. Would have thought something was wrong with Formula One if he had finished third on this overtaking-friendly track.

    5. Sebee says:

      More teams should push foe Saturday glory.

    6. Multi 21 says:

      Not when conditions for qualifying were vastly different from race day…

    7. Aussie Rod says:

      Yep, the whinging fans…

    8. Wade Parmino says:

      Something is wrong with the Williams and Bottas is just not as fantastic as he has been made out to be.

    9. JTodt says:

      No different to Hulkenberg bagging pole in a Williams in Brazil 2010 (or 2011?).

      It was wet and the last person over the line on drying track gets the best opportunity.

    10. Doobs says:

      Williams should ask Pirelli to tailor the tyres to suit their car. Seems to work for some teams ;)

    11. Bart says:

      The conditions were different. It was an excellent quali performance, but there was little Bottas could do in a midfield car in the dry.

  38. Joel says:

    Actually, Vettel was lucky after he hit the wall, albeit very slightly. A lot worse has happened to drivers for a even slighter mistake.
    However, it was still a dominant show from the RB man, acknowledge the well deserved win.

  39. gregmon says:

    Wow is this the Team Bruce McLaren is the foundation? Shocking! Today was the second time in CAN they finished being lapped with both drivers, except that Lewis won it! What happened there? Don’t know whether to laugh or cry…
    It’s like teh situation has been reversed, Mercedes once they’ll fix the tyre issues could be a title fighter meanwhile McLaren are slowly becoming a midfield team!
    DiResta driver of the day for me.

  40. sjd1992 says:

    Very comfortable drive by Vettel today. Shame Alonso struggled for pace on the super-softs in the first stint and only showed anything like his true pace when it was too late to get near Vettel. Cracking racing by Alonso and Hamilton towards the end though.

    The championship’s not over by any means though. Vettel’s lead maybe big at 36 points, but an Alonso win at Silverstone and a Vettel DNF opens the title race again. The weakness of the Ferrari is also traction, something which you need to be competitive in Montreal, and something the next few circuits don’t place as much emphasis on, meaning the Ferraris should be more competitive there. Hopefully Alonso can begin to close the deficit over the coming races and make a fight of it.

    Also, RIP to the marshal killed during the race today. Thoughts are with his family, horrible tragedy.

    1. Sasidharan says:

      I noticed that the recovery crane was quite rash, he could have beaten Mark Weber for the fastest lap.

  41. F12012 says:

    Great driving, Vettel, Alonso, Hamilton and Vergne

    Mclaren are woeful this season, still making mistakes and it now seems acceptable

    Vettel is really racking up the points this year already, Alonso needs a couple of wins to turn this around, Ferrari usually goes well at Silverstone so that’s a good opportunity

    Plus I always feel Vettel steps it up a gear from Japan onwards

  42. Truth or Lies says:

    Great drive by Vettel really in a class of his own. The Red Bulls seem to have overcome their issues with the Pirellis…

    Brilliant drive also from Fernando and a great recovery from Massa. Felipe, for a guy who’s had 3 bigish crashes in just 15 days was certainly taking no prisoners!

    But unless Ferrari can consistently improve the qualifying position of both cars, its looking pretty ominous for the drivers championship, because in Canada Sebastian simply crushed the entire field.

  43. paul says:

    Well, there’s a race not greatly affected by tyre management, and I read lots of comments about it being boring… Jesus people, what do you want? I found the race highly entertaining, with great drives and good, clean battles up and down the field. For me, that’s what it’s all about.

    1. JCA says:

      Apparently, when car nr. 1 wins, the race is boring. I liked that defencive driving was possible because the tyres weren’t being damaged when going off the racing line, while cars with a clear speed advantage could pass with DRS.

    1. Tornillo Amarillo says:

      Very sad death, had the marshals a good training or it was just an accident? Hope will not repeat.
      In some part, also a crane was dangerously beside the circuit just with a yellow flag…

      1. quest says:

        I don’t understand what the hurry was to recover the car. It was obvious that the race would end before the car could be retrived. Still the crane was deployed in a hurry with a yellow flag inspite of the fact that it would pose greater danger than the car ever would.

        Really unfortunate incident.

      2. Sebee says:

        Did he really need to pick up that radio right at that moment?

        It just shows the reality that real life is much more dangerous to our well being than a bunch of pros racing safety cells with helmets and HANS strapped with 5 points.

  44. Scuderia McLaren says:

    What was that Alfonzo about needing only a car that was 1 second off the pace to win the title or 0.5 sec off to win with rounds to spare.

    There will be no credible car complaints this year I think. The cars are more equal than ever with Ferrari having been fastest here and there. Alfonzy, your being owned and buckling under pressure. You can’t rely on under dog status to remove the pressure to perform.

    Can’t say it’s all RBR, where’s Mark?! Lol.

    Vettel, congrats on your 4 title. You deserve it. It must make it sweeter that 3 of them will be taken directly from Alonso and Ferrari’s hands.

    1. Doobs says:

      You’re talking like it’s all over… let’s see shall we.

    2. Aaron Noronha says:

      Too early to predict anything. The fastest cars on the track over a single lap are the Mercedes if they can only make their tyres last we would be in for a very big surprise. And the law of averages always catches up. Vettel had a very low profile first part last year and he bounced back. I am sure Kimi, Lewis, Alonzo and Rosberg all have opportunities to do the same. Vettel was lucky today because of the cooler temperatures. Damp and cooler temperatures will suit the Redbulls and Mercedes while warmer Temperature will suit lotus and Ferrari. Its still a long season and I wish it goes all the way to the last Race

      1. Scuderia McLaren says:

        “Vettel was lucky today because of the cooler temperatures”


  45. Multi 21 says:

    I was watching the early laps and waiting for the Ferrari race pace to show itself. Alonso has plenty of clear air behind Webber from lap 2 but the gap widened.

    It wasn’t until the prime tyres went on that anything resembling front running pace appeared. By then it was too late to catch a Red Bull with speed to burn.

    This made me think. All of Ferrari’s strong performances have been on the hard or medium tyres. Even in races with a soft or supersoft option tyre the shorter the opening stint, the better their race preformances and results are.

    That is evidenced by an option that lasted well over 20 laps without the famed degradation.

    Look out for Domenicalli calling for hard and medium compounds at all remaining races.

    1. Martin says:

      I think your analysis of the situation is about right. Not sure how your last line might play out though. Ferrari will still want the Red Bull and Mercedes to be limited by degradation. If the races are wear limited then Ferrari will be left behind by the greater downforce of the Red Bulls.

    2. Doobs says:

      Teams don’t ask for tyres to be made specially to suit there cars! What are you on mate..? Oh hang on. Oh Yeah it’s for “safety” isn’t it ;)

    3. Yago says:

      Finally somebody puts it right, contrarily to pretty much people saying wrongly Ferrari (Alonso’s) could have been a match for the Red Bull (Vettel’s) had they started furder up.

      On Ferrari’s preference of hard and medium compounds, I already comented on it before, Fernando has been the fastest overal on the harder compounds brought to each race. So for the moment I completely agree on this too, let’s see how the car evolves and if it’s still this way during the second half of the year.

  46. AaronM says:

    Very sorry to hear about another track marshal losing there life. Marshals play such an important role in our sport, usually they only do it for the love of being part of the event.
    To me this overshadows the whole race weekend. RIP.

  47. KRB says:

    Saddened to hear of the marshal that was killed helping move Gutierrez’s car near the end of the race. A 38-year old marshal that had worked the race for the past 10 years. My thoughts go out to his family. Tragic loss.

    1. David Young says:

      According to La Presse in Montreal, he tripped and was run over by the crane while the were moving the car.

      1. Zhenya says:

        My condolences to his family. Actually, he was participating in a worldwide event, which is characterized by some safety standards…How could it happen that he was run over by the crane? Terrible.

  48. Sebee says:


    I miss the days of % DOTD voter poll.
    Everyone will vote, few will comment as you know based on % of article readers who do. Plus it gave overall result feedback. Any reason why you gave up on it?

    1. JCA says:

      For me it turned into a popularity contest.

      1. Sebee says:

        I found that usually the voting was quite spot on. Even if I didn’t agree it was hard to argue the views.. Also it was thousands vs. Hundreds votes.

      2. Glennb says:

        You’re joking right?
        Did HAM ever NOT win a poll?
        Did VET ever WIN a poll?

      3. Sebee says:

        Vettel won…once at least.

      4. Bart says:

        +1 – Vettel lost a ludicrous number of those polls, thanks to a series of ludicrous excuses.

    2. JTodt says:


      The DOTD poll was a popularity contest. But how about a poll to rate the race itself? This will readers a voice as to whether the race was boring or thrilling.

      1. James Allen says:

        Not a bad idea

        NB – Please register with a real email address. We are not accepting comments from people with fake addresses

  49. Gareth says:

    Vettel dominated this like he did back in 2011, he drove away and that was that, I really hope we dont have a 2011 season again but it seems thats the way it is going.
    Alonso proved once again why he is the best driver, his moves on Rosberg, Webber and Hamilton were stunning. If he was in a Red Bull, one can only think how many world championships he would have now. Mercedes have improved, how much this is due to their “secret test” is anyone’s guess. Dont know what happened to Lotus, but well done Verne who will probably get the call up next year.
    As for Mclaren, Martin Whitmarsh must do the right thing and hand in his resignation, as a Mclaren fan the last time I saw them this bad was in 1995 at the European Grand Prix. Its so bad its embarrassing.

    1. Sugar Water says:

      +1. All solid points

    2. slim says:

      not whitmarsh, but sam michaels got to go

    3. Rockie says:

      “Alonso proved once again why he is the best driver, his moves on Rosberg, Webber and Hamilton were stunning. If he was in a Red Bull, one can only think how many world championships he would have now” after 3 DRS overtakes?
      Also he wont have won jack he would be in same position as you need to qualify well to make the Redbull work its not a good car in traffic.

      1. Gareth says:


        DRS is here to stay and has made racing much more exciting. May I remind you of Hungary 2002, Belgium 2002 where nothing happened all race!!

        Secondly don’t agree with you at all on Alonso would have won Jack. He has made that Ferrari be in sitautons where it should never have been

      2. Rockie says:

        Its myopic at best your reply and also the way you talk about the Ferrari one would think he drove a midfield car after all as Ron Dennis once said its easier to win in a bad mclaren than the HRT. So please spare me the Alonso is the best driver BS he was brought into Ferrari which was a winning team and has failed miserably to improve there fortunes so am yet to understand where all the praise comes from its similar to the lights to victory of past world champions suddenly alonso can’t do it then it becomes a bad way winning.

      3. Gareth says:

        Rockie are you just anti Alonso?

    4. Bart says:

      ” If he was in a Red Bull, one can only think how many world championships he would have now.”

      Two- from 2005 and 2006.

    5. Bart says:

      “If he was in a Red Bull, one can only think how many world championships he would have now.”

      Two- from 2005 and 2006.

  50. Timmay says:

    It is a good sign that Vettel lapped half the field – means he was actually pushing instead of lapping to deltas. First time I havent fallen asleep midrace for 3 years (title deciders notwithstanding).

    1. KRB says:

      Half? All but 5 cars!

      1. Bart says:

        All but 4 cars. Alonso, Hamilton, Webber, Rosberg.

      2. KRB says:

        Yep … was hand-to-forehead time about 43ms after I originally posted. :-P

  51. Tom says:

    I must admit, I did have a little chuckle when Vettel was booed. I don’t like the guy but you have to admit his race today was superb.

    I just wish the Mercedes quali buses would stop taking up spots on the front of the grid and we could get ALO/VET on the front row – then we would have a really interesting race on our hands :)

    1. Tornillo Amarillo says:

      IMHO each team and driver should work the whole weekend for getting a podium finish, with some luck…

      1. Me says:

        I agree, they should, someone should mention that to Ross Brawn in regard Rosberg.

    2. Scuderia McLaren says:

      Vet would win in that instance, hands down.

    3. Doobs says:

      RE Vettel being boo’d – the fans have spoken! RB are seen as bad sports and sore losers after all their constant whining about tyres and “secret” tests.

      1. Me says:

        …are these the same well spoken fans that booed Hamilton at Monza?…

      2. Andre says:

        The ‘fans’ have spoken indeed. Such people should go home and never watch or attend a GP ever!

        Sore losers??? Since when are they losing?

        And they have every right to ask the FIA for why Mercedes was given clearance to use their 2013 car. Just like Ferrari, Lotus and many others would like to know. But OH NO! its ONLY RB.

  52. mhilgtx says:

    First congratulations to Bottas again for his qualifying effort. That he couldn’t even keep it in the points today showed what a good job he did on Saturday. I of course have no way of knowing if they set up the car for only qualifying and had too much downforce for today’s much faster pace or not. Either way he showed something that the bigger teams surely took note of.

    Vettel was completely dominant again. I would have loved to been able to watch a feed with just him on it. But unfortunately we do not get that here for F1.

    I wonder how much Weber’s front wing damage hurt him today. Not sure he could have held off Alonso or not. This was the first race of the year that I can recall the US broadcast guys thinking losing the side gate of a front wing was that big a deal. Usually they say something along the lines of “there goes $180K of wind tunnel development and the times will stay the same”.

    Fernando was really good there is no denying that and only DiResta (sp) had as good a drive. Other than Vettel of course.

    @peter jones Yes Alonso did pass EG under yellow lights. I did see a blue flag also at the end of that straight so not sure how they will rule on that.

    James look forward to your findings.

    Too bad Kimi has had a few bad races in a row.

    Lastly my thoughts and prayers to the family of the martial that lost his life today. He went to the track today probably to do something he probably looked forward to all year.

  53. Torchwood Five says:

    Condolences for the marshall’s family, friends and fellow marshalls. They all do a fantastic job.

    Vettel handled the booing very well; why does the BBC presenters get to do podium interviews? Seeing the other countries’ tv reporters on the pre-race track walks, I initially expected to see other people (eg. RTL) up there once DC and EJ had done their stints.

    I thought it was a good race. Pleased for Lewis, that he got on the podium. I was concerned for the recovery of his relationship with Sutil when the latter got penalised for ignoring blue flags, but from reading the lack of sympathy for the German on here, it sounds like there was a lot more blocking than I realised. The stewards were taking a hard line with backmarkers. Whoa.

    Great drives by Alonso, Di Resta. Well done Grosjean for making it to 13 from 22. I noticed that Lotus revealed his first crash in Monaco was technical; could be that was what triggered his smash-fest after a notably crash-less season.

  54. All revved-up says:

    Bottas mauled by the top cars on lap 1 alone! Poor chap. Hope there are some wet races so that we can see his skills.

    Vergne had a good race. But being lapped even though he finished 6th – what a contrast to Monaco, where the whole field was within half a lap.

    Inspired tyre strategy by Force India DiResta. Well deserved points.

    A weekend of bad luck for Lotus starting with bad weather for qualifying, car issues, pitstop slip ups etc. Hopefully that’s their season’s worth of bad luck all in one race.

  55. All revved-up says:

    Condolences to the track marshall’s family. What a tragedy.

  56. Goob says:

    People call it a battle, but Alonso overtaking Hamilton with DRS was no battle in my book… this is what is killing F1.

    1. Sugar Water says:

      Goob, I am a Hamilton fan … We gotta give Alonso credit for clawing his way through the field. Everybody else had the same opportunity so u can’t beat on Alonso. Alonso is a quality driver we need to fess up to that. Time and time again he claws his way up the field in a car that is not #1. Hamilton will make Mercedes better – lets focus on that. No doubt that chaps like Hamilton, Alonso, Raikkonen would smoke the field if given the RB car. They have clearly demonstrated the competence of driving from the “back” time and time again in cars that continually need to be “pushed”.

      1. Bart says:

        Dude, this year, four teams have been very competitive frontrunners. Giving others a RBR car isn’t suddenly going to get them to smoke the field (well maybe Alonso would, since he’s the only non-Vettel driver to win more than once, dominantly for that matter, in the F138).

      2. Andre says:

        What are you trying to say? That Vettel only wins because he is driving the RB car?

        Just because someone is a fan of a certain driver and/or team doesn’t give them the right to degrade other drivers. So childish.

        Alonso is a quality driver, but the Ferrari is also a very good car. Even last year it wasn’t that bad as people would like to suggest.

        In Spain Alonso is the best driver on the planet, in Canada its not Vettel but the car.
        Yeah right, we all know the truth is somewhere in the middle.

  57. Lee says:

    Sorry to hear about the Marshall killed during the race. Brave men and women. RIP

  58. Erik says:

    Yes, and a special shout-out to Pirelli who look like they aren’t idiots after all, despite what the F1 fraternity will have us believe. Credid where it’s due for producing a good tyre. Right, James?..

  59. Danny Almonte says:

    All Red Bull tracks from Silverstone onwards. Vettel looks to be untouchable.
    Mercedes still haven’t solved the tire degradation. Maybe those Carbon Industries brake pads were the difference between Lewis and Nico today.
    I don’t know why Lotus are against the new tires. They look like they’ve already peaked and are falling down the order.
    Ferrari didn’t look very impressive.
    Mclaren are horrible. Perez showed Button up yet again.

  60. Michael says:

    What intrigues me, Mercedes do a test for Pirelli and the world is on fire when they win. Then Pirelli actually change the tyres on demand of Red Bull, and when they win nobody talks about it. That’s just weird.

    1. Rockie says:

      Tyres don’t change till Silverstone.

      1. James Allen says:

        If at all. Some teams trying to block the change of specification

    2. Andre says:

      First of all no change was made to the tyres, secondly if or when Pirelli get clearance to change the tyres it is not because of 1 team but of ALL the teams.

  61. Wilma the Great says:

    Have RBR got the edge by applying their passive DRS and on which other tracks could they set it to good use?

    1. KRB says:

      If so, that could explain Vettel’s off at turn 1 … if the PDRS didn’t switch off in time for him to have the rear downforce thru that turn.

  62. Oz Geezza says:

    The Gods shone again on Vettel, he missed
    the wall by mare 1 cm, then in to the grass
    couple times,very lucky:However he should
    thank Botas but in particular his team mate
    Webber by holding Alonso,he should supply him
    for 1 year with Canadian Whisky which is not
    a bad drop let me tell you. I entertain the
    hope in not to distant F1 meetings to Vettel
    have Alonso behind.

  63. Richard says:

    Vettel is going to run away with it, RBR are going to have a massive update at Silverstone (Why shouldn’t they, the track is very close to Milton Keynes), he’ll take pole for the next 8 races and in Korea he’ll be champion. Can’t wait for 2014.

  64. Ross says:

    Slightly off topic but I believe that is the 3rd race this season where Vettel has been jeered on the podium. I can’t recall that happening to any other driver.

    I wonder what he and Red Bull make of it. It can’t be good for the sports image for the number 1 driver to be seen as unpopular with the racing public.

    1. Tom in adelaide says:

      If Red Bull take Kimi next year then i think it will in part be due to them realising that Seb needs them more than they need him. Red Bull are in F1 for marketing and Seb is something of a wasted opportunity in that respect. Fairly or unfairly, he’s not well liked by many fans. If they are confident in their car then they can basically pick any good driver who will meet their marketing requirements. Kimi seems like the most “Red Bull” driver on the gid. They should find a fast American for #2.

    2. Sugar Water says:

      Ross – I was at the race and my generalization of the sentiment towards/about Seb from the crowd i sat among is: ” immature, childish, self centered, somewhat unproven given the car “– please no stone throwing as I am just giving u all the sentiment that I was surrounded by….

    3. Ronnie says:

      I believe this is how RB makes of it:
      Christian Horner: “The fastest way of becoming unpopular is to have repeated success.”
      Sebastian Vettel: “I think that the most important thing is that you focus on yourself and you remain yourself; you don’t try to be something that you’re not, because I think it just distracts and that takes energy away.”

  65. Panayiotis says:

    Is it my imagination or is Alonso becoming more and more over-cautious during first lap overtakings?

    Where is that fierceless attitude that awarded him with a few places each start? He now seems to be a bit hesitant, gets alongside but then yields first and does not complete the move.

    I guess having a DNF after the touch with Vettel justifies this, but by not passing people early on allows Vettel to drive into the distance and then it is just too late.

    Presuming Ferrari will not solve their quali issues, maybe a little bit more aggression and risk is required?

    PS: Merceded did not benefit at ALL from their recent Pirelli test. Yeah right!!

    PS2: Nobody into the wall at Montreal, no Safety Car…. What is happening to the place? Or are the drivers that good this year?

  66. Luke Clements says:

    Hi James,
    MW got a great start for the 2nd race in a row! Not sure if it will cure my nervous tick before watching the start of a GP but it helps.
    Has his new engineer got it sorted? And just a coincidence that the last 2 races have seen pretty poor starts for KR with MW’s old engineer? Not sure that CB is actually KR’s engineer though.

  67. Jon Wilde says:

    Condolences to the family of the Marshall tragically killed in the race yesterday. A rather poignant reminder that motorsport is dangerous, and that continuous improvement as to safeguards and safety procedures within the sport are vital.

    Red Bull pace seems ominous for the remainder of the season, they will be remembered as the team to have dominated the current set of regulations, 2009 must really grate for the team! Mclaren’s pace was worrying they seem to be in a bit of a downward spiral, one has to wonder how much Lewis knew about the 2013 challenger before he made his decision to leave the team. Another difficult weekend for Lotus can’t be helping the team’s chances of retaining Kimi for 2014. Alonso and Hamilton made for great racing, there is a clear respect between the drivers although the damage incurred through Hamilton’s attempt to repass may have been more to do with luck rather than judgement. Hopefully a Mercedes can find a quick resolution to Hamilton’s niggling issues in finding the sweet spot with the W04. I would not expect great things of the team in Silverstone. Whilst it wouldn’t be great for British fans perhaps it would be the best race for the team to take a race ban.

    I wonder how many teams will now switch focus to 2014. Williams, Caterham, Sauber, Mclaren (although looking at a holding year) should acknowledge if their car isn’t good by this point, they are unlikely to make huge strides.

    Finally, the fan reaction to Vettel’s win is not something to be applauded. Perhaps the fans had hoped for a more entertaining race, but respect should be shown for a driver and teams performance. This kind of behaviour in Monza has discouraged me from returning to the track, I don’t want to remove Montreal from my “to do” list as well!

  68. Stephen Taylor says:

    My biggest condolences to the family of the marshall/track worker that was killed yesterday.

  69. Nick_F1 says:

    Hi James,

    I just wonder your opinion if Merc didn’t do that “secrete test” would they come to the podium in Canada?

    And another question can Merc do different set up for Niko and Lewis, like using an old “set up – not knowing the secrete test info” and a new one taking what that test gave them?

  70. Grayzee (Australia) says:

    Ok! I don’t get it. How could Mark Webber have set the fastest lap……. with half his front wing missing??? Teams spend hundreds of thousands of dollars developing and building these super front wings……….and then Webber gets a very large chunk of one side of his knocked of, and yet continues on as if nothing happened. And he even set the Ffastest lap ………. Can anyone explain this? I know he’s good, but……….

    1. slim says:

      an angry aussie putting his foot down

    2. Tom in adelaide says:

      That seems to happen to Massa quite a bit too…..maybe their respective “go slow #2″ devices are getting knocked off?

    3. Glennb says:

      Because Mark is easily the best at working around problems with his car.

    4. Offcourse says:

      Maybe the drivers are driving within the capability of the car and to a delta set by the tyres.

      So in the later stage of a race it’s not difficult to set a fastest lap, even with a broken wing.

      That’s how I see it anyway and it brings into question, as to what F1 is all about at the moment.

      1. Tim says:

        +1, I think you are onto something there. A well thought out and reasoned comment ;-)

  71. Grayzee (Australia) says:

    So, Van der Garde gets a 5 grid penalty for taking of Webbers front wing ( among other things).
    Given that he generally qualifies on the back row of the grid, it’s not much of a penalty is it? Where’s the justice?

    1. John Gibson says:

      Maybe the penalty could be a 10-place grid penalty, unless the driver is eliminated in Q1, in which case it will be a case of having to start from the pitlane a minute after the green light? Something like that.

    2. Joan says:

      The real injustice is when you qualify last and have a 5 – 10 grid penalty doesn’t really get enforced.
      If it was up to me, the penalty should be enforced the next race, and the next one, one grid place at a time, or two, until the penalty is complete.

  72. Albert says:

    I’m ALMOST, starting to come around to the idea that Seb is actually quite good and I’ve not given him enough credit for his previous titles. Almost.

    Good to see Hamilton do well :o) – sad to see McLaren take another beating though…

    1. Yago says:

      Something has to be wrong if you didn’t realize Vettel was an amazing driver after the last four years!! :o

      1. Albert says:

        I think he has had an amazing car for the last four years! :D

      2. Aaron Noronha says:

        yes and so has all the world champions so far. Its common sense Fastest Car + Fastest Driver + Consistency = Word Championship. Name one Driver who defies the above equation?

      3. Tim says:

        Fastest car +fastest driver + consistency = world champion.
        Name me one driver who defies the above equation.

        How about Damon Hill? I am probably going to get hoards of his fans shouting me down now. He is a nice man and obviously not rubbish ,but I don’t agree he was the fastest driver of his generation. Thus, disproving your equation ;-)

  73. M.Riaz says:

    the major problem ferrari face is qualifying. the reason alonso has got the measure of vettle in past few races is that we have had mercs on the front rows. subsequent to the starts of races you will find that the merc race pace not as good as the red bull however the merc helps keep the gap between alonso and vettle contained. now if you analyse the end of race margin of 15secs between vettle and alonso this clearly illustrates that the gap came from the fact that alosno spent the 1st stint behind rosberg/webber with this margin. had he started further up he would have been able to fight vettle in front. it is crucial that ferrari improve theri quali pace otherwise they always going to find themselves in the customary P5 behind mercs and red bull. this again exposes alonso to dnf risks by being entangled is 1st corner incidents etc. whilst ferrari has good race pace poor quali performances are going to yet again cost them the championship this year again.

    1. Die Scuderia says:

      Very true what you just said. We certainly need to figure out qualifying. We have been singing this tune for a very long time now. However, Canada was a different case with the cooler temperatures / rain. What also hurt us badly, in this race, was poor traction when exiting a corner. We could have narrowed the gap to Seb, but not too sure to what extent. The car is good, overall. But, man, we need to get the qualifying sorted out.

      A question for James…given the weather conditions in Canada. I doubt teams may have extracted decent data in evaluating the revised tire compound. Will this tire be rolled out in Silverstone or will teams be given another go at it, preferably with warmer weather conditions?


      1. James Allen says:

        Some teams trying to block the change altogether… you can guess who..

  74. JohnBt says:

    The weather was fantastic!

    Race was not too bad, clean start overall and quite a few battles, especially when Alonso was catching Lewis and touched wheels during the overtaking. Webber and Rosberg too. Di Resta was impressive with 57 laps before pitting.

    Gotta give Vettel the respect for his maturity, though he did run out of track losing 4 secs but with the lead he had he could afford a few mistakes. And he never pushed for the fastest laps at the end of the final stint.

    Ferrari and Alonso must solve their quali problems than we’ll have some close racing with Vettel and also cut down the championship points deficit.

  75. Anon says:

    Looks like the loss of Allison and a smaller budget is hurting Lotus now as they look to 2014. I think Ferrari, RB and Mercedes will pull away from the other teams.

  76. Warren Groenewald says:

    Scarily dominant win by Vettel, but Canada doesn’t put much load into the tires which I guess allowed him to exploit the full pace of his car.

    Not good news for the rest of the season if RBR sort their tire issues out. Silverstone could see Ferrari and Lotus back at the top of the pile again with Merc and RBR struggling again during the race.

    Certainly hope so or this could get rather uninteresting.

  77. John Gibson says:

    I though it was interesting that Vettel clearly had sufficient confidence in the durability of the tyres to push flat out from the outset, whereas a lot of the others (both Mercs and also Alonso) looked very much like they were conserving them in expectation of being able to push later in the race.

    So I’m left wondering how Red Bull was able to arrive at such a level of confidence by Sunday morning that was clearly lacking among the others.

  78. slim says:

    james, why oh why have the bbc moved the fantastic gary anderson over to the radio. last year he seemed to do 70% tv 30% radio, now it seems 20% tv/80% radio, surley the tv gets more viewers, his knowledge is massive. (not that yours is not)

    1. James Allen says:

      I’m very glad he is with us on BBC Radio 5.

      Our audience is pretty huge too!! He moves from one comm box to the next to do a bit with TV then comes back to us again.

      Seems to work very well

  79. Anne says:

    Off topic. Sad to hear a marshall die yesterday. My thought are with him family. Hat off to all marshalls. They have a risky job and it´s not always appreciated enough

  80. Richard D says:

    All the discussion about who did what in the race and who’s going to be WDC this year and who didn’t deserve it the other year becomes so trivial in the light of news that a marshal, who gave time freely to facilitate the racing, was tragically killed in process of recovering a crashed car.

  81. gregmon says:

    Can someone explain why 17 cars/22 racing in CAN yesterday were backmarkers? Only top 5 drivers (VET/ALO/HAM/WEB/ROS)had completed the 70 laps but the rest got lapped, even if I noticed n°6-10 still got in the points zones!
    I don’t understand! I’ve never seen that before…

    1. Steve says:

      You must be new to F1. Off the top of my head, Hamilton lapped the entire field up to and including the fourth place driver at Silverstone 2008. That is, there were only two unlapped drivers.

      I expect there are simile recent examples if you look.

  82. Tragic death. That was someone’s father or brother or husband. Rest in peace.

  83. Lewis says:

    R.I.P. to the brave marshal, thoughts and prayers to his family.

    Sadly this race confirmed that the Red Bull is the best car, Vettel will win the title by over 100 points IMO.

    Shame the Ferrari and Mercedes cars couldn’t merge, then they’d be just as fast, if not faster.

  84. Elie says:

    Tragic news to hear of the marshal killed. May he RIP.

    Looks like shut the gates to Red Bull again in 2013. Four years to a drinks manufacturer tells you something is not right in the sport. No doubt it was a great effort by Sebastian but its always been clear to me that until F1 has budget caps it very unfair to compare a €300m+ team to one on €100M. Guess you can scoff at it- but that’s the sad reality.

    Alot of teams will have updates at Silverstone – I know Lotus have a new engine cover but i just hope they find more – it’s great to see mid field teams keep the big guys honest !James whatever happened to their passive DRS ?? Thanks

  85. Stephen Taylor says:

    James , where do you think Raikkonen will end up in 2014? Please don’t sit on the fence.

    1. James Allen says:

      I cannot see why he would not be in a Red Bull

      1. Grayzee (Australia) says:

        Do you really think he would want to go up against Vettel? I dunno about that…would be good to see though…..assuming Webber retires.

  86. Desklupes says:

    Anyone know why RIC finished so far behind JEV? After 2 laps he was 2 spots behind him, and then just fell away. I hope this isn’t a sign of things to come

  87. Caterhamfan says:

    So, according to the Sky commentary (and some of the interviews) all the drivers were pushing all the time – on these “rubbish” tyres that are as much use as marshmallows according to all the shouting by the fans on message boards – and that lasted 50 laps on some cars!

    Plus, it looks as if Mercedes didn’t get so much benefit out of the 1000kms of Pirelli tyre testing after all :)

    1. James Allen says:

      Weird – it’s the same supersofts as in Australia and the same medium tyres which were used in Australia, Malaysia, China, Spain etc etc

  88. Cedricbaum says:

    Alonso needs to stop limiting losses and start winning races again!
    He’s not going to win the championship by limiting his losses, Ferrari needs to give him a winning car!

    1. Bart says:

      He has one.

  89. MR says:

    When was the last time that we had an F1 race where the leader lapped 75% of the field. Red Bull have not suddenly found an extra 2 seconds so it has to be down to Pirelli and its manipulation of the tyres……
    Vettel – a near faultless race….. Not sure thats true after he hit the wall and went off the track.
    Not a great race to watch.

    1. Bart says:

      “Near faultless”, i.e. decimating the field on pace from pole, while pushing the limits (and making 2 minor mistakes).

    2. Steve says:

      “he hit the wall ”

      Man, this seems to be growing in the retelling. He didn’t “hit the wall”. At most one of his tyres just barely grazed it. After looking at the replays a few times I’m not even sure THAT much happened – you can see some scuff marks on the wall before he passes, and they don’t seem to have been added to afterwards.

  90. Zombie says:

    Di Resta redeemed himself after his immature comments on Saturday. He could’ve driven all the way down to Texas on the same set of tires if he wanted to!

    I’ve said this before, and i’ll say it again. Force India really extracts maximum performance for every penny they spend. One wonders what they can do if they had resources like the top 4 teams.

    1. Sugar Water says:

      Well stated. I’ve come around to that point of view as well.

    2. KRB says:

      Di Resta did very well. Maybe in an odd way he should be thankful that he started P17 … if he had started P7 and ended up P6 it wouldn’t have highlighted his drive as much.

      Now imagine if he had been more mature in his comments after qualifying (something like “again we’ve been caught out in a tricky qualifying session … we have to keep working at that … but we’ll be fighting throughout tomorrow”)? How much better would he look then??

  91. Methusalem says:

    Mercedes now has almost the same number of points as the whole season from 2012. Well, I have never seen someone as lucky as Vettel. First, the qualifings under a rainy condition, then no safety car in the race. The most puzzling thing though is how it was possible for Vettel a two seconds advantage over Hamilton just after the 1st lap.

    1. Bart says:

      The lack of a safety car meant there was no external or artificial factor to close the field up and decimate Vettel’s well earned lead. To argue that this (or qualifying on pole in the wet) is just luck is laughable.

    2. Glennb says:

      Seb does what he wants, Lewis does what he’s told and Nico just drives the bus.

  92. F1 4 life says:

    I felt that the race was between 2nd, 3rd 4th and 5th places. As we know the leader Vettel surged through the first few aps to maintain the gap away from the DRS detection (over 1 second), and the lap times increased and so forth. Interesting to see RB9, maybe some upgrade that helps the car or track temp. This reminds me of Valencia last year, Vettel leading with a huge margin until he ran out of luck. James do you know any upgrade that could make there car good on their tyres?

    Fernado was fantastic its a shame that he qualified down on 6th place maybe if he was third he could have challenged the RB9 we may never know, maybe Silverstone can give further answers. Mercedes looked to have improved a bit maybe they understand the technique of combining the FRIC and the tyres i.e. gentle through the slow corners etc.

    It would be nice if we could get a feature on any technical updates noticed on these cars?

    Thanking you again James.

    1. Glennb says:

      It wasn’t just RB that did well with their tyres. I don’t recall anyone struggling too much for grip. The Montreal track is a low abrasive track without any high speed corners. it’s basically a few straights joined by hairpins and chicanes. It’s high speed corners and high speed changes of direction that tear the tyres apart. Montreal has neither. I reckon if they went back to Barcelona next week they would still be 3, 4 stopping.

      1. F1 4 life says:

        True, this track is more about traction and braking, Silverstone should bring us back to the usual picture?
        Mercedes would find out if they have made improvements, Mclaren could come back if they can understand their car better. Canada, made Button drive too slow when he could have pounded on.

        Ferrari will need to qualify higher up the field i.e. 3rd place or higher and not to affect the Race pace.

  93. Doug says:

    I enjoyed the race, but was horrified to hear about the track marshall.

    I think the podium interviews can be retired now. The booing was very poor form.

    1. F1 4 life says:

      Me too, was such a tragedy almost 12 years I think the last track marshal died, my thoughts are with his family.

      The Track marshals are a major part of our racing and their safety comes as a paramount, their work they provide to cater for F1 carries the risks to their lives.

  94. F1 4 life says:

    James any updates on how track marshals safety can be improved, especially with what happened on Sunday.

    Is some sort of investigation is going to happen i.e. measures to be taken into accordance etc.


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