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Posted By: Matt Meadows  |  30 Jun 2013   |  5:42 pm GMT  |  389 comments

Nico Rosberg claimed victory at the British Grand Prix in an extraordinarily eventful race that illustrated Formula One in its greatest and most negative light, with five tyre failures marring what was a spectacular race.

Lewis Hamilton was the first victim of a high speed delamination as he led the race in the opening stages and handed the lead to a fast starting Sebastian Vettel. He had managed to jump Rosberg from the start line and inherited the lead on lap eight following Hamilton’s misfortune.

There were further tyre failures in the following laps for Felipe Massa, Jean-Eric Vergne, Esteban Gutierrez and for Sergio Perez in the closing laps. This heaps even more pressure on Pirelli and questions the fragility of the tyres that are unable to cope with the loads of a Formula One car.

It was particularly dangerous in the case of Vergne and Perez who both had drivers close behind them at the time of the explosion. Grosjean and Alonso were those in the tow of the respective cars and were lucky in avoiding contact with the flailing rubber.

After Hamilton’s issue, Vettel controlled the race and looked to be increasing his Championship lead with another Silverstone Red Bull victory as Rosberg sat a couple of seconds behind. However a transmission failure with ten laps remaining saw his RB9 grind to a halt on the pit straight and bring out the safety car, prompting a flurry of late pit-stops and a seven lap sprint to the finish.

During this final phase the podium finishes had each opted to pit for fresh tyres, both in the hope of scoring some strong points whilst also negating the chances of a further tyre failure.

As the Safety Car pulled in at the end of the fourty-fifth lap Rosberg had a clear road ahead and on a fresh set of the hard compound tyre he was expected to drive away with Webber and Alonso being held up within the pack.

But with the two on near-new option tyres they carved through the cars ahead and Alonso cut Vettel’s Championship lead to just twenty-one points.

Webber got to within 7/10ths of a second of the race win and may well have taken a popular victory in his final British Grand Prix should there have been one more lap. But this was not to be and Rosberg took his third career victory in a race that became as much a battle of attrition as it was a show of speed.

Following Hamilton’s tyre failure, the sister Mercedes had to complete nearly a full lap to return to the pits and he dropped to the back of the field. From there and under the radar the pole-man edged up in to the points and found himself in a strong position heading in to the final sprint.

He latched on to the back of Alonso and followed him through a number of cars, including Raikkonen, Sutil and Ricciardo, and the Brit ended the race just 6/10ths behind Alonso and the final spot on the podium.

Completing the top six were strong drives by Raikkonen and Massa, having differing races but scoring some good points. Raikkonen kept his nose clean and sat in second place following the final Safety Car period but he questioned his team’s choice to not pit him as Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari did and this turned out to be his downfall. He had nothing to answer the cars on fresher tyres and eventually slipped to fifth place.

Massa, meanwhile, suffered a tyre failure in a very similar place to Hamilton as he entered the Wellington Straight towards Brooklands and saw himself drop down the order from a strong start in which he sat in fifth place. And like Hamilton he raced through the field to take sixth place and boost his confidence after a difficult run of recent races.

Tomorrow’s edition of Driver of the Day is set to split opinions as the Force India pair of Adrian Sutil and Paul Di Resta also had a good outing for the Silverstone based team. Sutil was sat in third place after Hamilton dropped back, but he stayed out too long on his second set of medium tyres and allowed Raikkonen and Alonso through as he pushed to limit the race to two stops.

He eventually came home in seventh, like Raikkonen losing out to Webber, Alonso and Hamilton in the late stages of the race.

Di Resta, starting from last place following an underweight car in qualifying, took ninth place as he avoided the large amount of Pirelli debris that littered the circuit.

The Force India pair sandwiched Daniel Ricciardo for Toro Rosso, another driver to deliver a good drive on the day. During the race he was involved in battles with the two Lotus cars and Fernando Alonso – doing no harm to his hopes of a seat in the parent team next year.

BRITISH GRAND PRIX, Silverstone, Race, 52 Laps

1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1h32:59.456
2. Mark Webber Red Bull + 0.765
3. Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 7.124
4. Lewis Hamilton Lotus + 7.756
5. Kimi Raikkonen Mercedes + 11.257
6. Felipe Massa Ferrari + 14.573
7. Adrian Sutil Force India + 16.335
8. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso + 16.500
9. Paul Di Resta Force India + 17.993
10. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber + 19.700
11. Pastor Maldonado Williams + 21.100
12. Valtteri Bottas Williams + 25.000
13. Jenson Button McLaren + 25.900
14. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber + 26.200
15. Charles Pic Caterham + 31.600
16. Jules Bianchi Marussia + 36.000
17. Max Chilton Marussia + 1:07.600
18. Giedo van der Garde Caterham + 1:07.700
19. Romain Grosjean Lotus + 1 lap

 

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  1. bones says:

    FIA is doing a great job at damaging Pirelli’s reputation.
    Is about time for the CEO of the italian company to grow a pair of balls and tell Whiting,Todt etc etc that they will make tires strong enough for just one pit stop race.
    If a driver gets killed is Pirelly whom will be blamed.
    It makes me laugh when all the “genius” that are on f1 forums talk nonsense about Pirelli,even when tires were meant to last the whole GP (therefore were extra hard) we saw incidents. Is it too difficult to understand for those genius what a big challenge is to make tires that have to last just 15 laps in order to fit FIA requirements?
    Let’s get rid of the aero madness and all those stupids front wings so cars can run close to each other and therefore overtake,because in case people forget THAT is the reason for these ridiculous tires.

    1. User0815 says:

      Have you recognized that much to the dislike of Lotus, Ferrari and Force India, Pirelli has chosen the medium and hard compounds for Silverstone, not the soft ones like last year?

      Obviously they did “play it safe” with their current range of tyres, only that Pirelli doesn’t seem to be able to do better.

      1. Jonathan says:

        How about you recognising that the compound used for the contact surface has nothing to do with the ability of the sidewall to withstand sharp edges on kerbing?

        Pirelli’s choice of compound was aimed at pacifying Red Bull.

    2. Rudy Pyatt says:

      ++100.

      And to my eye, with very few exceptions, winged F1 cars have never had “the look.”

    3. docjkm says:

      Every point in the above post is 101% correct. All the geniuses should read and have knowledge. And that includes those geniuses at FIA, and Mr E !

    4. Kbdavies says:

      And exactly what is wrong with a “one pit stop” race?? I don’t get this logic whereby the level of excitment of a race depends on the number of pitstops it generates? Can someone please elucidate me?

      1. Zinobia says:

        Sure, when there is more pitstops or rather more different strategies used, races is more exciting. It is more unpredictable and interesting if one team can use a 3 stop strategy while another team uses a one stop strategy for example.
        If every team just do a one stop strategy then it means that all of the cars, uses the tyres the same way, and they will basically pit at the same time and just keep on running in the same order after qualifying. It would be much like the processional races we used to have. You need variation.

        This race was much more exciting then then the last two races. The exploding tyres just needs to be fixed.

      2. Kbdavies says:

        My question was sarcastic. more pitstops do NOT equal more entertainment. It is a sport, not an entertainment show.
        The 100m sprint is over in less than 10sec; I don’t see people calling for it to be made more entertaining by having the participants stopping in the middle of the race to change their shoes because they have been specifically designed to fall apart after 30m.

      3. Bones says:

        I am 40 years old, I grew up watching F1 with ZERO pit stops and I loved it. For me there is nothing wrong with that but nowdays it looks like if there are not 100 overtakings per race there is not emotion. Too bad that FIA has no balls to do what every single technical consultant say about the lack of overtakes without aids: get rid of the aero.

    5. J says:

      It’s clear that Todt had these tires made to order. It’s clear that Lotus and Ferarri blocked the steel belted specification from being used in Silverstone. It’s also clear that there was a problem with one of the curbs.

      Now we can look forward of a week of posturing and politicking while Todt, Ferarri and Lotus try to turn attention away from themselves and onto Perelli for political reasons. Expect exactly zero talk about curbs or under filling tires.

      1. JCA says:

        The steel belted tyres were used. There’s a quote from Button on the BBC site that says the problem is that bits of 100ºC plus rubber with steel in them are flying at the drivers behind the punctured tyre.

      2. Chris M says:

        Yes the steel belted tyres were used. Pirelli wanted to use Kevlar belted tyres but were refused that change in specification as it was blocked by Lotus, Ferrari and Force India.

    6. Andrew Carter says:

      Oh look, another genius who doesn’t know a thing about aerodynamics.

      Your right about the tyres though.

    7. Joel says:

      The FIA din’t request tyres made that will explore or delaminate. It is Pirelli’s incompetence here that is limiting. I’m not absolving FIA or Mr.B. But, Pirelli should take most of the blame here.
      Even FIA insisted that changes can be made ONLY on safety grounds – they din’t deny Pirelli’s request for change in construction. Pirelli din’t have the backbone to accept and call that changes are needed for SAFETY. Or, they are incompetent enought to see whether SAFETY is a compromise or not. They better not showup next year, instead, lets bring back Michelin…

  2. GoHeikkiGo says:

    Honestly if I were Pirelli I wouldn’t even come back next season. I’ve never seen as big of a PR nightmare because of what the FIA asked them to do with these tires and now they haven’t even been able to switch the compounds because of the teams not unilaterally agreeing to do it. This has to be absolutely sickening for the company.

    1. User0815 says:

      It’s not the FIAs fault that Pirelli don’t manage to create tyres that can be driven hard AND fall over the cliff after a certain amount amount of time without disintegrating and without having a temperature window the size of a CD-ROM slot.

      And it’s not the FIAs fault that Pirelli are obviously incapable of learning from the data they’re gathering during races to create a proper tyre.

      Pirelli failed to create Formula-1-worthy tyres for three years in a row now and that’s not the FIAs fault. All the FIA wanted was about 2 to 3 stops per race, they did not ask for tyre-blast-disaster or sissy tyres that must be handled like eggshells.

      Michelin, back in the days called the cars in, when they saw a problem. In Silverstone Pirelli did nothing alike.
      And even before Silverstone Pirelli chose to play their severe security problem down. This is irresponsible and does not deserve a new contract for 2014.
      Formula One needs Bridgestone, Michelin or GoodYear back, Pirelli have proven to be incapable and irresponsible. Enough is enough. We’ve had it!

      1. Me says:

        Nope, they’re built to the specification that the FIA requested…

      2. User0815 says:

        The FIA had specified they wanted 2 to 3 stops per race, delamination, explosion, small temperature windows and “do not drive too fast or your tires are gone after 3 laps” was not part of the order, was it?

      3. Kbdavies says:

        NO they are not. That is pure hokum that is being perpertuated ad infinitum by Pirelli and supporter of these nonsense tyres.

        The FIA NEVER gave Pirelli any “specification” to make a specific tyre (i challenge anyone to show proof of this). What the FIA said was to make tyres that generated more exictment in the manner of more pit-stops, thereby adding a bit more unpredictability of the “spectacle”.
        Pirelli delivered this in 2011, and fine tuned them in 2012. OPirelli then decided, on their own accord, and in their own very words, to make the 2013 tyres even more “marginal”; because the teams had worked them end toward the end of the season never mind we had the best races of 2012 toard the end of the season). Why they did that,i would never know. They were NEVER asked to change, fiddle, or marginalise the 2012 tyres, the FIA, the teams, the drivers, the fans, nor by anyone else for that matter.

        They did not ask Pirelli to make tyres that degrade easily, that driver cannot push on, that delaminate in free practice and races, that puncture regularly, that are extremely suceptible to operating temp, or that are good for only a single lap (Chinese GP).

        So they deserve ALL the flak they are getting, as this debacle is entirely of their own making.

      4. Joel says:

        This is an excuse. The FIA din’t request tyres made that will explore or delaminate. It is Pirelli’s incompetence here that is limiting.

      5. Quade says:

        Its the FIA’s fault for joking with the tyres and if any driver gets killed, the FIA will learn a huge lesson about how negative stupidity really is from long prison terms.

      6. Maxime Labelle says:

        Pirelli wanted to bring safer tyres for this race. However, the teams could not reach an agreement, and now blame Pirelli!

        I’m speechless…

      7. Robb says:

        To be fair, without in season testing, all Pirelli had to use to develop the tires was a 2010 Renault, which even in it’s day was easy on tires, so nowhere near able to put the energy through the tires that the fastest of the currant cars do. When Pirelli realized this and tried to change the construction of the tires, which requires the agreement of all the teams, Lotus said no.

        That’s why I think there needs to be in season testing, so the tire manufacturer can keep up with the currant state of the cars. Bridgestone did it by making tires strong enough to last an entire race, but now Pirelli are being asked to make tires that degrade quickly.

        To make tires that that are strong enough for currant cars, yet will degrade quickly, is a fine line to straddle when you’re not allowed to test with a representative car.

      8. Robb says:

        Please mentally replace the letter “a” in the word that should be “current” with “e”.

        Thank you.

      9. Hendo says:

        Quite correct – we expect each team to develope their cars during the season, with updates at virtually every race. So why shouldn’t the tyres upgrade/develop along with the increased pace of the cars? This of course would require in season testing in current spec cars.

      10. Basil says:

        Only Michelin on my car!

      11. Jonathan says:

        The real problem is that with so much of the technology being standardised and having far greater reliability than ever before the tyres are now the only element that has any variability.

        The engines need to last 4 races which is much easier with today’s gearboxes.
        The gearboxes need to last 5 races and paddle shift has meant nobody misses a gear and therefore gets overtaken as in the past.
        The rules have been so stable they are well understood and have little room for error (unless you are McLaren of course).

        The tracks have become neutered by losing the gravel run off areas – so there is no penalty for leaving the track – it is far too easy to return. In the old days any car leaving the circuit was very lucky to get back racing and would lose several places if he did.

        I agree the safety is needed but it has removed the element of chance. Yesterday was a wake up call for all in F1. Maybe we should have some kind of sensors on the kerbs that trigger a penalty for cars that insist on taking extreme lines over them. Until that happens the kerbs should be made even more severe – most drivers were warned several times to avoid the kerbs yesterday but continued to ride over them. If touching the inner edge a of kerb always meant losing a tyre they wouldn’t go near them.

  3. alan says:

    (lewis)bad luck pushed you down to 22nd.the heart of a champion got u 4th.
    id be worried if i was redbull,Mercedes look like they might take the championship.best driver combo on the grid.

    1. FerrariFan says:

      +1 they have a car that’s stunning in qualy and now in race too. Vettel couldn’t pull away like before.

    2. Veteran says:

      1 answer: 2 safety cars…

      Otherwise not possible.

      1. F1 Bobby says:

        Don’t undermine what was a stellar drive.

      2. Phil Too says:

        Why not. About 100 people would be saying the same thing if it were Vettel

      3. Anne says:

        I´m afraid an illegal test underminds the great drive both Hamilton and Rosberg did.

      4. Nick says:

        @Phil Too

        Dead right! It would be even worse if it was Button!

        Just look at Canada 2011. Dead last (24th not 22nd) to first in LESS THAN HALF RACE DISTANCE in atrocious conditions while lapping 1-2 seconds faster than everyone else and all we got from the Button bashers/Hamilton fanboys was that he only did it cause of the safety cars.

        Now Hamilton goes from 22nd on only lap 8 to 4th and he gets nothing but praise for a ‘fantastic’ drive!

      5. aezy_doc says:

        second answer: exploding Pirelli. Otherwise more than possible.

      6. F1 Bobby says:

        @Nick, but it was a fantastic drive – why would he get anything other than praise? Weird.

        Are we not allowed to acknowledge a good performance from Lewis any more or is it just that we have to preface it with praise for every other driver on the grid first?

      7. Dren says:

        Rosberg stayed in touch without the safety car. Hamilton had a second or two lead after 7 laps. Mercedes most certainly had the pace this weekend. Hamilton would not have finished in 4th without the safety car help, that is true, but I think he would have won had there been no tire issues.

    3. [MISTER] says:

      In the same time, isn’t strange how out of the sudden, Mercedes’s tyre problem have dissapeared?

      In Spain they dropped from 1st and 2nd to 8th and 12th. Here, from 1st and 2nd they got 1st and 4th. Lewis had a good chance of winning this if not for the tyre failure. That would’ve given them a strong 1st and 3rd if Vettel would’ve stayed in 2nd.

      The temperatures were pretty high and Mercedes must be rly happy the heat and headlines are on Pirelli and not on their tyre wear.

      1. chins says:

        well said…looks like Mercedes did gather a lot of information on tyre wear from their private test otherwise how can they improve so much all of a sudden…very disappointing!

      2. JohnBt says:

        Ferrari will be testing after the German GP with the 2011 car but 2013 wings. Horner will be fuming mad.

      3. Jim says:

        They just had a tire failure

      4. [MISTER] says:

        Which wasn’t caused because of the wear..so what’s that got to do with what I said?

      5. aezy_doc says:

        totally agree. 3 day test has helped but makes it so much more interesting!

      6. Tornillo Amarillo says:

        But Toro Rosso and Force India have improved also… You cannot said all improvement is from private tests really.
        And always the winning teams have something to hide, unfortunately.

      7. MISTER says:

        Force India always had a good handle on the tyres. that’s why they didn’t want the tyres changed. And as far as I know, Torro Rosso didn’t had any severe tyre problems like Mercedes.

      8. Poyta says:

        Mercedes certainly seemed to have improved but whether it had anything to do with the 3 day test is debatable. Remember that they were testing prototype 2014 tyres not current 2013 tyres. It certainly feasible that they have improved through natural evolution and developement but of course it won’t stop all the conspiracy theories that it was all due to some secret magical test.

      9. aveli says:

        hamilton said they tested and improved the tyres but the fia wouldn’t let them use the improved tyre. clear evidence that they tested 2013 tyres.

      10. Hansb says:

        “Remember that they were testing prototype 2014 tyres not current 2013 tyres.”
        How can they say that if they also state they didnt know which tyre was on the car at any moment.
        It is more than a coincidence that suddenly Mercedes car has become the most gentle on these tires? Look how Hamilton was able to attack after the last safety car. He did not make a pitsstop (as did Raikkonen). The Lotus previously was most gentle on tires but was a sitting duck for Alonso/Webber who had fresh tires. And Hamilton with only 2 (!) pitsstops was able to drive into the DRS of Alonso !!

      11. Rockie says:

        I’m sure you didn’t seen Hamilton’s interview who asked why pirelli didn’t bring the tyres they tested.

      12. unF1nnished business says:

        Totally agree. They definitely gained from the test. It’s a night and day difference. What I also find interesting is the commentators/journalists barely acknowledged this!

      13. grat says:

        Yeah– it’s almost like Mercedes has been aware they’ve had a tire problem, and have been working to fix it all season long. No, wait, they had this problem last year, too.

        So it’s only taken them 15 months to crack it.

        I also seem to recall they had tire issues in Monaco and Canada, so it’s a good thing they spent all that time in an illegal test.

        Meanwhile, McLaren announces they did a “photo shoot” where they tested new parts, and nobody blinks. Ferrari admits they did two tire tests for Pirelli, but unlike Mercedes, Ferrari ran the test– and nobody cares.

        If Mercedes were still 7th or 8th in the championship, no one would care– but since they’re the one team that looks to be able to challenge Red Bull this season (Constructor’s, where the money is), everyone’s screaming foul.

      14. [MISTER] says:

        They had tyre problems for the past 2 years and as soon as they do a tyre test, bang! the tyre problems are gone. Coincidence? I don’t think so!

    4. Grant H says:

      Great drive from Lewis man of the day

    5. Harvey says:

      They learned absolutely nothing from the secret tire test. That must be why Rosberg didn’t have degradation issues and Hamilton was able to drive to a fourth place.

  4. Kimi says:

    Lotus made a blunder by not calling in Kimi and lost a definite podium.

    1. Quade says:

      Kimi might just have told them “I know what I am doing.” Who knows?

      1. JCA says:

        He questioned the decision not to pit the lap after the others pitted, but was told it was to late and the team thought they would be okay. That Red Bull seat looks pretty good to him tonight, I’d bet.

      2. Zinobia says:

        Kimi asked the team to pit for new tyres and they decided that he should stay out.

        It was a massive blunder from Lotus.

      3. Yak says:

        Lotus people have made statements post-race admitting that in hindsight the team made the wrong decision, and even apologised to Kimi for the result.

      4. Elie says:

        No as many have said he asked to come in- they said no. He was furious after the race ( in Kimis way). I wish people would leave that line alone now it’s old news. Im still angry at Lotus stupidly- I was jumping up and down when Rosberg came in and Lotus not!.. Very, very dumb.. And I just knew it was all over when Alonzo and Webber did the same !..

        “Hello Red Bull I hear you have some nice drink – can you throw in some magnums into the fridge too.. I will come over in 2014 !”

      5. Quade says:

        Ok, I take back my suggestion.

    2. I will says:

      Yeah! Total misunderstanding there. Kimi also don’t like to be disturbed and perhaps that cause the team a bit afraid to react?

    3. Phil Glass says:

      Have to agree that was pathetic:
      “Sorry Kimi. Would have been better to come in + change the tyres…. but too late now. Sorry. Over and out.”

      It’s China 2012 all over again.
      Maybe their strategy team need to gain on physical fitness side: optimum health does help with quicker thinking.

      1. Tornillo Amarillo says:

        Yeah after the race Kimi was asked if he was happy for the record of races in the points and he said “NO”. He really wanted the points and the money that those implies, isn’t it?

    4. Ding wamage says:

      I wonder if Kimi hasn’t made up his mind about going to RB next season yet. After Lotus’s strategy today, I would take my chances with any other team, were I Kimi. Lotus are so laid-back that they are starting to seem lazier than Iceman himself. Without the talent.

    5. Phil says:

      Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

      1. D@X says:

        +1, Spot on!

    6. Michael S says:

      I was surprised Lotus had to tell Grosjean to stop racing Kimi… He was fighting him into every corner.

      Kimi came on the radio fast an said”I think this is a mistake” so I am guessing it was the team. If Rocardo had not let Webber by so fast Kimi might have had a prayer, but Webber was flying by then.

      1. f1future says:

        The sentence ‘Kimi is faster than you’ somehow reminded me of Germany 2010.

      2. Hudson says:

        I think the race engineer chose those words deliberately to provoke this kind of response. It’s now legal anyway so he knew there would be no consequence.

      3. Poyta says:

        Pretty sure Kimi was on Mediums vs Grosjeans Hards so it would be waste of Kimi’s tyres to be stuck behind Grosjean. Different strategies and it was the right call.

  5. Sri says:

    1. Pirelli needs to be out of F1 for making F1 a tyre farce.
    2. If teams like Lotus had blocked the move to change the tires to a different construction, then now they have to agree.
    3. The secret test seems to have some good effect on Mercedes besides Pirelli favoring the conservative choices that helped them to have a good race with teams like Ferrari or Lotus now having no advantage in either quali or race.
    4. Raikkonen should seriously consider moving to RedBull as even Webber wins more GPs than Raikkonen in a Lotus and Raikkonen is a bit faster than Webber.

    1. Get Well Soon Murray says:

      Re point 2. You’re right. Surely the taams all have to agree to change the tyres now. Teams should put driver safety infront on another team gaining a potential advantage.

      And yes it’s pretty obvious that test has had a big impact on Merc isn’t it

      1. Phil Glass says:

        Are they stoppable?
        Would be a joke if Rosberg wins the title ahead of Alonso, Vettel and Kimi !!

      2. Poyta says:

        I don’t think its obvious at all that the test has made a big impact on Merc performance. Only the team would know the reasons why the tyre wear was better and its possible that it was as a result of development which they are entitled to do. Mercs certainly didn’t look stellar at Canada and that was after the test.

      3. Hendo says:

        Bugger the teams – the FIA should have made that call.
        The Duty of care lies with them.
        How many tyre failures were there at Indianapolis before Michelin parked all the cars on their tyres?

      4. Jonathan says:

        The teams did tell their driers to drive more safely. It was the drivers who chose to repeat their flagrant rule breaking and continue driving off the circuit at bends where they knew tyres were being wrecked.

        It is not Pirelli’s fault if they were asked to make radical tyres.

        Added to that it really is time drivers paid a penalty for going off circuit. Maybe Silverstone gave an extreme way to do this but it worked. The drivers only have themselves to blame for putting themselves and others in danger.

        If drivers must be allowed to leave the circuit without physical danger we should introduce another way of penalising them. Maybe we should have sensors that trigger an extended pit stop for cutting across kerbs.

    2. Hendo says:

      Maybe you should ask Lewis about the Pirelli advantage he got.

  6. Ben Miller says:

    Merc seem to be in a good place right now. Shame part of it is down to an illegal test. 2 wins and solid pace from Lewis in Canada in 3 races following the test. Brawn alluded to mystery people in the team who he didn’t want poached … I smell a smokescreen. Wolf didn’t give a succinct answer when asked the same after the race.

    Monaco suited their car granted but here in warm weather it’s an amazing turnaround from Barcelona. They also have knowledge on next years tyres and throwing the kitchen sink at 2014 … Can get away with breaking rule(s) and only suffer reprimands. Feels like the changing of the guard right now.

    Re Pirelli, good on the beeb for actually going down

    1. [MISTER] says:

      Agree about Mercedes’s tyre wear. Had basicaly the same wear as Ferrari, if not better.

      International Tribunal my a**! The decission was made behind closed doors. The IT meeting was for the media.

      1. Oz Geezza says:

        110% corect,the hard fact being the FIA
        had a choice by imposing a penalty that is
        worthy of the offense, thus loosing team
        Mercedes and two teams being without engines
        for 2014,or alternatively softly, softly and
        the Mercedes would be happy.
        In meantime FIA releases memo to the press
        of the referral of the matter to IT ,knowing
        full well of the deal being done before hand.
        A glaring success of three days testing one
        should think,the bottom line says so.

    2. aezy_doc says:

      Any other team savvy enough to spot this loop hole would have taken it. I think it was illegal, but Merc have been canny.

      1. Yak says:

        There was no loop hole. They were found guilty, just that they were basically let off because they supposedly had “good intentions”.

      2. H.Guderian says:

        Yes!!! They had “good intentions” (but with black helmets).

      3. aezy_doc says:

        Ok, instead of ‘loop hole’ how about ‘calculated risk’. I agree they cheated. They saw an opportunity, weighed up the potential outcome and decided to take it. Much like any other team. Red Bull saw the opportunity and decided not to risk it. On other occasions they have risked it (‘hole’ vs ‘slot’ in the floor, engine mapping, diffuser issues, flexi wings etc etc). All teams are the same, it’s part of F1.

    3. garyp says:

      >>>>> Brawn alluded to mystery people in the team who he didn’t want poached … I smell a smokescreen.<<<<<

      Yes he didn't name them as they work for Pirelli :) (joke)

  7. kal says:

    Interesting james how you didnt comment on alonso’s unsafe release!??

    1. Get Well Soon Murray says:

      Yes. Interesting why nothing was done about that isn’t it

      1. Michael S says:

        yes, that was odd… I also thought it odd Charlie did not call the race with 5 laps to go when Perez had the 4th tire of the day explode. However, Alonso would have been 7th and not 3rd at the time…. hmmmmm?!

      2. Bring Back Murray says:

        I acutally think the race should have been stopped after the 3rd explosion. It was obvious there was a re-occurning problem at that point.

    2. Craig D says:

      It wasn’t really that unsafe, otherwise a penalty would have been handed out. Plus it was Alonso himself that suffered a little and not the other car. A non issue.

    3. a.b.normal says:

      All teams are equal, but some teams are more equal than others. Definitely an unsafe release.

      1. aezy_doc says:

        As Craig D said, yes it was unsafe but Alonso was the one who suffered.

    4. Antti says:

      Like it’s been mentioned, there was no harm done to anyone else but Alonso, so I see no reason to pass penalties for it. Had Alonso hit Grosjean the situation would be different.

      1. kal says:

        NO! you are wrong, because many times teams have been penalised for unsafe release when there was NO contact

      2. Antti says:

        I think it depends on whether the driver leaving the pits or the driver arriving to pits is at an disadvantage. In this case, it was Alonso himself who lost time. If it had been Grosjean who had to slow down, or even stop, to avoid collision, then penalty for Alonso would have been appropriate.

  8. Ben Miller says:

    Oops hit return! …to turn 4. Everyone jumping on Pirelli but sharp concrete can rip any manufacturers tyres … But too early to tell exact cause. Interesting observation is that of most tyre failures this year are from aggressive drivers … Massa Lewis Perez … Can’t recall your car preserving drivers having one – seb Jenson Kimi or fernando?

    1. matthew says:

      alonso’s left rear was in a bad way too,luckily he pitted just in time,same applies to nico.

    2. Quade says:

      Those kerbs were there in previous years; in fact, they’ve been there for decades, all without incident. Pirelli’s tyres are just rotten, thats all.
      It is a stupid policy to tamper with safety features such as tyres in order to “create a show.”

      1. Me says:

        Really?, the track has been like that for decades has it?

      2. Ben Miller says:

        Do you know for certain that nothing has changed to the kerbs for decades? What about the all the added drains added to some kerbs that sky alluded to in the race. Not saying its the cause, but Kimi says its quite possible.

      3. aezy_doc says:

        I’d be intereseted to know how long kerb 4 has been there…

      4. Paul says:

        Turn 4 was part of the Silverstone rebuild a couple of years ago.

      5. Quade says:

        The owners of Silverstone have confirmed that since 2009, “SEVERAL THOUSAND” cars have negotiated those same kerbs without incident. They went further to accuse Bernie, the FIA and Pirelli of bring F1 into dispute… Bang on the money if you ask me!

        Its pretty silly to blame the kerbs. What next will we be blaming? The white road marks?

    3. Andrew M says:

      Perez is renowned for being soft on his tyres, it was the making of him last year.

      1. Ben Miller says:

        I would agree with you last year. But whitmarsh told Perez to get his elbows out two races in. He did 4 stops in Malaysia and Barcelona, 1 more than button. Definitely driving aggressively in my opinion

      2. Andrew M says:

        On both those occasions Button did one more stop than virtually the entire field, that’s more Jenson being (arguably) the driver who’s softest on his tyres rather than Perez being aggressive.

        Also, Perez did one fewer stop than Jenson in Bahrain.

    4. Andy says:

      Some of the super slo-mo shots from this years races have shown a lot of ‘rippling’ of the tyre walls, are the teams running lower and lower tyre pressures to combat degradation?
      The other question is that I didn’t see a single steel belt in any the failures today.

      1. Quade says:

        Pirelli made the tyre walls much thinner, so that increased flexing can heat the tyres up very quickly. That is one major secret of the current tyres rapid wearing.

        The wretched tyres should either be changed to the ones Merc tested, or to the 2012 version.

      2. Ben Miller says:

        Yep surely doesn’t help … Teams are quite prepared to go on the limit of safety with camber and pressures but then jump on Pirelli when things go wrong. Who knows what teams are doing and whether it contributes to failures.

        Your right about the steel belts, didn’t see any … Surely they wouldn’t change anything other than the bonding without telling the teams …

      3. aezy_doc says:

        Is that nor because they are made of Kevlar?

      4. Andy says:

        The 2012 tyres used Kevlar, and this is what Pirelli wanted to change back to but some teams objected.

      5. James Allen says:

        Likely to be the solution. Return to tyres more like the 2012 ones.

        Tough for Lotus, Ferrari and Force India, but safety is the No 1 priority

    5. User0815 says:

      Then why didn’t it happen in the WEC and GP2 races just before the Formula 1 race?
      And how come it didn’t only happen in Silverstone? This season we’ve had Tyres delaminating and blasting in several places, where nothing happened before. I don’t buy the “Sharp edge” theory.

      1. Quade says:

        Thank you. The ‘“Sharp edge” theory’ is absolute nonsense.

      2. Ben Miller says:

        Your comparing apples and pears more or less. F1 cars will carry more fuel at the start so a lot more weight, have more load laterally and vertically, have different racing lines, more speed, different tyre pressures and camber, more heat to contend with. You can’t say because it didn’t happen in other races it isn’t possible. There are clearly some issues with Pirelli but so have other manufacturers had these, Michelin had 4 or 5 failures in spa 2004 I think. Just think that we should wait to see if there are mitigating factors before hanging Pirelli.

    6. Kingszito says:

      Seb, Ros and Alonso all had damaged tyres, but they were fortunate that theirs didn’t blow up unlike the drivers you mentioned. This doesn’t have anything to do with driving style, the tyres were too fragile. It’s simply unsafe period.

    7. SummertimeBob says:

      If this was really the case, then the kerbs would have been changed a long time ago. This is Silverstone, one of the most raced on tracks in the world, not the streets of Singapore that get raced on for one weekend each year. I’m not saying the kerbs didn’t play any part, but discounting the Pirelli rubber just doesn’t wash to the point of it being another blow-out.

  9. DonSimon says:

    Any news on Rosberg being called up about the yellow flags? Did that really happen or is it just true on twitter?

    1. MrNed says:

      Yes it happened – he was reprimanded, and the race result stands.

    2. Andrew M says:

      It happened, but he just got a reprimand.

    3. Andy says:

      He got a reprimand for setting a purple sector under double waved yellows, work that penalty out. Mercedes seem to be able to do whatever they want just lately.

      1. Ben Miller says:

        Stewards or independent tribunal makes no difference …. If your Merc and break the rules you get a slapped wrist. Oh didn’t a boss of Daimler join the f1 board last month!

      2. DonSimon says:

        Agree 100%. What would be the penalty for a Marussia? If they reprimanded him it’s true and the punishment is soft. He deserved a race win today but given that he did break the rules, well, we should be seeing more than a telling off.

      3. JCA says:

        If a Marussia posted a purple sector, they should throw the driver a parade.

    4. Poyta says:

      I saw a lot of rule breaking during the race, unsafe releases, DRS use when not allowed and no one got penalized – pretty sure the stewards were very lenient across the whole board for the race – stop trying to make it look like they were playing favorites.

  10. W Johnson says:

    F1 has become a total farce…..exclusively a tyre managing championship above all else.

    Will Ferrari and Lotus now wake up and do what is in the best interests for F1 and agree to compound changes??

    1. Michael S says:

      there have been changes… You are not paying attention. Lotus and Ferrari are mad they are bringing harder tires to each race instead of the planned soft/super softs.

      1. JCA says:

        There were changes in the tyre compounds chosen (well within Pirellis rights), not the tyre construction that Pirelli and 8 teams wanted, apparently with good reason.

    2. Matt says:

      Ferrari, Lotus, and Force India tyre advantage are on the super-soft and soft tyres because their cars don’t work the tyres too hard. Mercedes and Red Bull like the medium and hard tyres because their cars work the tyres very hard. Pirelli brought the medium and hard tyres the 2013 F1 British Grand Prix and what two teams dominated qualifying and the race? Pirelli has chosen to go very conservative on their tyre selections for the rest of the season to please Red Bull and Mercedes.
      I don’t know what race you were watching, but I didn’t see a lot of tyre management during the race. I saw a lot of drivers driving flat-out.

      1. JCA says:

        Pirelli chose to go conservative to protect their own reputation, having taken a public battering since Barcelona. Imagine how bad the tyre wear of the softs or supersofts would have been. No one was going flat out for fear of touching a curb and getting a puncture, there were countless radio warnings to that effect.

      2. Hendo says:

        Come on … Just a few laps in, Hamilton was told he had a buffer and to go easy on his tyres!

  11. Tornillo Amarillo says:

    It’s not “delamination” anymore for Pirelli, it’s tyre “DESINTEGRATION!”

    HAMILTON was the only one overtaking with OLD tyres, really amazing and fast at the end. And Merc is P2 in the WCC.

    All the drivers did very well today, but the excitement is because Vettel got the DNF.

    Button is to blame for the Webber clash at the start.

    It’s incredible Checo and Massa are alive after so many tyres problems lately.

  12. Jock Ulah says:

    Catastrophic tyre failures might be as artificial as DRS but at least, just like the latter, they make for more exciting racing.

    Question is, are either of them desirable?

    1. Quade says:

      They make for exciting racing? To who?
      Certainly not me.

    2. Andrew M says:

      No.

    3. Dai Dactic says:

      Agreed.

      If F1 wants to continually mess with tyre formulas to enhance the excitement then it gets what it deserves.

      The drivers, quite rightly, don’t desire or deserve the extra risk.

  13. Andrew M says:

    Very harsh on Lewis, Nico did well to pick up the pieces though, and the safety cars helped him (and Webber) fight back through the field, which he did very well.

    Needless to say action needs to be taken, yes the failures shook up the race but not in a way that’s at all desirable into view.

    Did anyone else snigger at the crowd reaction to Vettel’s retirement ;)

    1. AlexD says:

      Peopledo not seem to liki him….no wonder why…

    2. Me says:

      No… I shook my head, but then realised that the great unwashed masses know no better.

      1. Andrew M says:

        And God bless them for it.

      2. Torchwood Five says:

        Agree, it was a shame there was cheering at that.

      3. Yak says:

        Just like the crowd response to Vettel on the podium in Canada. Disgraceful.

      4. H.Guderian says:

        Must have a reason, right???

    3. [MISTER] says:

      I was just saying to my flatmate that it’s incredible how Vettel’s retirement made so many people happy.

      1. Hudson says:

        Same thing happened here in Melbourne, when Vettel appeared to have some problems. He is not very popular I must say!

      2. Alex says:

        I was pleased when Vettel went out. Not because I dislike him or Red Bull as they are both thoroughly deserving Drivers and Constructors champions. I think people like to see any sporting event go to the wire especially so in a protracted series indicative of motorsport. Truth told, Vettel and Red Bull probably deserve both titles again this year for doing the best job but I for one don’t want to see that decided for certain before we get to Sao Paulo.

      3. Rockie says:

        Am guessing you were hoping Alonso had a failure last year when he was leading so the championship would be open.

  14. Rajesh says:

    What a race, but sadly for all the wrong reasons! This Pirelli tyre issue is blowing out for F1 and Pirelli brands. A lot would say not to blame Pirelli 100%, that they are just doing what they were asked for by the F1 sport heads. But this is really embarassing for them. Seems to me like a fundamental issue with construction/safety.
    I can only hope they can do something to save themselves out of this mess (with or without F1 managing committee).
    Good race, with a dash to victory towards the end after the SC period.

    1. Kbdavies says:

      Pirelli were NEVER asked to provide these particular tyres (2013). They went off their own back to make the 2012 tyres more “marginal”. I don’t know why people perpertuate this myth that they are only doing what they were “asked” to do.

  15. CYeo says:

    If the Michelin tires were dangerous to use during the Indianapolis farce of 2005, I wonder how many cars will now turn into the pit lane after the formation lap at the start in Germany.

    Watching the HD telecast, one could see Vergne’s tire start to shred on the inside shoulder (when looking at the car from the front). One thin strip flicked up, and then wham! the whole tire went to pieces.

    1. FerrariFan says:

      I was actually thinking that they will red flag the race. But I was surprised that they let it continue.

    2. Glennb says:

      @CYeo
      “I wonder how many cars will now turn into the pit lane after the formation lap at the start in Germany.”

      I would predict ummmmm, zero.

      1. CYeo says:

        So the drivers who got pelted with tire fragments are not your concern then?

        Some have already hinted at race boycotts if nothing is done.

      2. Glennb says:

        @CYeo
        It does concern me. I just predict than none will have the testicular fortitude to stage a strike. Do you seriously think that Alonso would peel off into the pits if he saw Vettel do so? No way! 25 points up for grabs baby! Unfortunately this is not the old days where the race leader put his hand up and everyone stopped.

  16. leigh says:

    Do you blame the customer that gives the chef an impossible request or the chef that tries to comply with said request despite the impracticability of it.

    1. Quade says:

      The chef wasn’t ordered to “accept” the job at gunpoint.

    2. Andrew M says:

      The chef. The meal requested could clearly be cooked, and was done so for the last two years; the chef then tried to be too experimental and ended up ruining the whole banquet.

      Nice analogy!

    3. Jordan says:

      The chef was asked to cook up an exciting meal, not make all the guests sick :)

  17. KARTRACE says:

    This is getting to scary

  18. Nuno says:

    James,

    I was intrigued how Alonso lost so much time on his 2nd stop. Also he pitted before the last SC!!! Can you please check if he add any problem or was just Ferrari not kind to tires for the first time this year (in Alonso’s hands).

    1. KARTRACE says:

      It was obvious that both Ferraris lost pace ahead of that pit stop. Those tires were good for a very limited number of laps.

  19. Mike from Colombia says:

    No question about it. Hamilton DoD. He would have held off Vettel in an case.

    Shame on the FIA and Pirelli.

    1. Robinson says:

      Hahaha driver of the day? After all the gifts given to merc, car of the 2nd half of the championships would be a more appropriate term. Its not yet there as of the moment but come germany, Ross maneuver will come to full play.

      1. Cos says:

        @ Robinson…so let me get this straight…any driver that leads a race, has a blow-out within the first few laps and drops to last, then fights his way back to 4th by the end of the race, is by your point of view not something that makes up a ‘Driver of the Day’?

        would love to know who you would vote for

      2. KARTRACE says:

        Lewis had a great race but SC played into his hands big time. Otherwise I doubt he would end up this high.

      3. Me says:

        …not forgetting the safety cars…

    2. Kingszito says:

      His recovery was spectacular. I know it was aided by two safety cars, but yet it was phenomenal. I was hoping for 10th place for him at best, but bringing home the car at 4th place was great considering that his tyers were much older than those around him. Lewis is my DOD.

      1. Poyta says:

        Lets not forget the floor on the car was damaged too.

    3. BRUNO MENILLI says:

      I thought it mean that Hamilton had to struggle to congratulate Rosberg’s win, and then went on to say that ‘we all made it easy for him’ when interviewed on BBC just after the race.

      1. Poyta says:

        I don’t recall even seeing Hamilton after the race so how can you be sure he struggled to congratulate him? Its certainly reasonable that Lewis would have been gutted after the race realising “what could have been”. As for his comment in the interview – is he wrong?

      2. bruno menilli says:

        Hi
        He was interviewed on the BBC, live, just after the race ceremonies, when they began concluding the program, and whilst they were interviewing Ross Brawn -and they switched to an interview with Hamilton, so I don’t know why you didn’t see it ?

        Rosberg won because he was where he was, to take advantage of the situations that arose – and the win wasn’t gifted to him by Hamilton or the Mercedes team, or made easier for him by them.

        Certainly Hamilton would have felt gutted – but why degrade Rosberg’s win by saying what he did?

  20. AndyFov says:

    Would it have been such a spectacular race without the tyre failures? I thought not knowing whose left rear was going to explode next added a certain drama to proceedings.

    I’m just relieved no one was injured and that the race wasn’t black flagged for safety concerns. I had a real concern that it would be 15 laps in. After last year’s problems with drainage an outcome like that would have been truly awful for Silverstone.

    1. Steve says:

      Maybe for next year the FIA can sprinkle land-mines randomly around the tracks. That will add some drama to proceedings, won’t it?

    2. Get Well Soon Murray says:

      Not knowing if and when someone might be getting seriously injured makes it for an exciting race?

      1. Craig D says:

        Not that I’m saying the tyre situation is at all acceptably but the risk of injury was a big part of F1 in the 50s, 60s and 70s wasn’t it, and people accepted it. It’s amazing how things used to be.

    3. Craig D says:

      The tyres failure were ridiculous and unsafe, which is unacceptable but you’re correct. The return of a high degree of unreliability to the race, like in decades past, certainly added an extra level of tension. And just when you thought the risk had eased off, bang, out goes Perez! And of course we also had a classic engine/gearbox failure with Vettel.

    4. KARTRACE says:

      Looks like they were running to low tire pressures. James do you know anything about tire pressures if they were to low ?

      1. James Allen says:

        There was a note to teams mid race to run higher tyre pressures..

      2. Dren says:

        Yes, the commentators on NBC Sports said they send a recommendation of 2 psi higher. They also said normal changes in tire pressure for teams is in 1/4 psi increments.

  21. Andrew Carter says:

    An exciting race but the tyre failures are a worry. Given that they were all left-rear failures and that we’ve never seen something like this before it makes me wonder if this was something to do with the circuit.

    1. Craig D says:

      Well, the type of circuit – whether it’s one or a combination of successive high speed, high load corners with hot temperatures, or the kerbs – clearly caused the failures. But the tyres should be able to cope with such conditions, not that the track should be changed. It’s like the Michelin Indianapolis fiasco.

  22. Quade says:

    Pirelli were asked to create a show with the tyres. Now they have become the show.

    Sad.

    Congrats to Lewis on a stonking drive after such a massive tyre failure and to Nico for the win.

  23. Hermann says:

    Dear All,

    4 reflections after the British GP:

    No1. Pirelli want to go into liquidation. They’re shooting at their feet!

    No.2 The mechanics are taking too many risks with tyre pressure values.

    No.3 The tyres are having too much stress than ever before.

    No.4 FIA underestimated the consequences when it ordered Pirelli to produce more degrading compounds in order to have more pit stops.

    What do you think?

    1. Quade says:

      The FIA has shown itself to be absolutely incompetent. Principle should have made Pirelli refuse to produce tyres that decay or explode when used.

      1. Craig D says:

        Yeah, because Pirelli chose to design tyres that would explode..

        Fact is the FIA haven’t given Pirelli adequate tools to design their tyres with relevant tests with current cars, etc. The likes of Bridgestone and Michelin had ample testing time in their day. They had it easy.

        And as for Pirelli, well they’re at fault for going too aggressive and experimental this year, and underestimated the improvements in the cars and the increased stresses they’re generating.

      2. Elie says:

        Agree totally Quade – the FIA must take full responsibility for this damn “engineered entertainment” and Pirelli must show greater Integrity and say sorry- we don’t know what we’re giving you if we keep making tyres in the edge And we are not jeaopardising our image lime this.”
        It’s just garbage Ive been saying it since 2011.

      3. Quade says:

        Its indeed been garbage since 2001.

    2. User0815 says:

      1) I totally agree
      2) They have to, because that’s what the tyres demand to be quick.
      3) No, Turbo engines in the 80s had far more horsepower and wheelspin, skirted ground effect cars had similar levels of downforce. These days less data was recorded, science and engineering was less advanced that it is today.
      4) It was not the FIAs fault, they ordered degradation, not disintegration and they did not order very small temperature windows either.

      1. J says:

        How do you make the rubber maintain the same levels of grip but wear away sooner without making it thinner? Since you’ve got all the answers.

  24. Wayne says:

    Ok, all I better hear from Pirelli is “sorry – we’ll fix it”. This is not the first time this year and Pirelli have blamed these failures in their ridiculous tissue paper tyres on everything but themselves.

    Plenty of other races were held this weekend and throughout the year – it’s not the track guys, it really isn’t. It wasn’t the fault of the weather, the kerbs or the evil pixies that live in and around Northampton.

    Pirelli have set back safety in F1 20 years. They put the drivers and the Marshalls at risk over and over again this year.

    Yes they were told to ‘spice up the racing’ by misguided fools who took the lazy shortcut to ‘exciting’ ‘racing’ but at the end of the day Pirelli manufacture this garbage and they should be bloody ashamed of themselves.

    You couldn’t give me a set of road Pirellis for free – they may be completely different but they’re still made by these jokers.

    Are people really still going to carry on defending them? Do we really now all need to ‘go away and understand’ the bloody obvious

    1. Quade says:

      Unfortunately barring something as fundamental as the relocation of the North Pole, Pirelli will supply the tyres for 2014. They are here to stay.

      The positive we can take from these experiences is that nobody will play games with the tyres from now on.

    2. Dren says:

      Pirelli are to blame just as much as the FIA is to blame. As the teams are figuring out the “right” pressures to run the tires in to keep the tires from overheating, other issues are brought out. The curb likely accelerated the issue at this track. Pirelli produced the tire, so they are ultimately at fault, but there is a lot of politics at play. Pirelli produced a crap tire but are left with their heads up their hands tied at the moment. I put a lot of the blame on them, but feel sorry for them at the same time.

      Even if Pirreli put out recommended limits on tire pressures due to safety pre-race, I doubt many teams would have followed them if they knew they could make the tires perform better otherwise. Remember when Red Bull was scolded for running too much camber a year or two back at Spa? Red Bull did so anyway.

      The fast degrading tires has made for exciting races, in my opinion. Certainly there is an option for fast degrading -but safe- tires.

  25. Mocho_Pikuain says:

    Wow, what a race! A lot of things to talk about with the next race beeing this weekend.
    Web, Alo, Ham and Mas were simply awesome today. You must feel sad for Lewis and Seb also, but at least the championship fight gets closer.
    Tyres can’t be changed for this weekend so if Nurburgring its sunny we could see this disaster repeated.

    1. Colombia Concalvez says:

      Why Alonso ?, Alonso is given too much credit for nothing, he did nothing special. Infact he was lucky people infront of him had car problems or where send to the back of the grid. When will people like you see that Alonso is really not that great like the media and his fans are trying to make him

      1. Anop says:

        I understand from your comment that you don’t like Fernando and I’m sorry that you can’t see his greatness because this is an era of F1 that will be remembered for a long time to come.

        I’m just happy that I’m getting to watch great drivers like Fernando, Kimi, Lewis and Sebastian all racing at the same time live.

        Fernando puts lot of hard work to make the sport interesting for us to watch. We should appreciate him because he makes the sport we all love better to watch.

      2. Mocho_Pikuain says:

        Alonso is an awesome (probably the best) driver, like him or not his skills when he has a steering wheel on his hands must be apreciated.
        If you don’t understand why people think Alo is that good im not going to lose time trying to explain it to you.

  26. Anne says:

    Delamination? Tyres just exploded! They are driving with a time bomb. I wish I could lock Paul Hembery in the Tower of London.

    I´m sorry I can´t congratulate Rosberg and Hamilton. This race showed that the so called Pirelli test was a Mercedes test. I know Hamilton had a problem too. But he finished in P4 after all. So Mercedes got P1 and P4. The car made a clear big step forward. I don´t believe the excellent result in this race it´s mere conincidence.

    So I congratulate Webber, Alonso, Massa, Di Resta and Sutil

    1. Sid says:

      I do absolutely agree with you!

      1. Ahmed says:

        100% Agree Anne
        Talk about giving Mercedes a helping hand.
        -illegal secret tyre test with Pirelli and given reprimand
        -Rosberg disobeys yellows in race, keeps win (usually at least a time penalty is applied)
        -Pirelli blowouts galore ie Silverstone 2013. This will take up all of the headlines which will divert attention away from Mercedes miraculous development of their tyre issues which have hampered them for 3 years…

      2. Anon says:

        They’ve had good race pace everywhere but Bahrain and Catalunya (very hot tracks), Paddy Lowe has turned the problems around. I can’t remember the last time someone was stripped of a win (Spa 2008 maybe) and I’m sure I’ve seen lots of incidents like this.

    2. Matt says:

      Mercedes also have data on the 2014 Pirelli tyres so their 2014 car should be very competitive. Congralutions to Lewis Hamilton for jumping ships at the right time. Not too long ago, people were calling him crazy for leaving McLaren. Looks like a brilliant move to me.
      Mercedes has become the untouchable team in Formula 1. In-season testing with their 2014 car and their race drivers (using different helmets) during their secret…Oops! Sorry Ross, private test and all they basicly get is a slap on the wrist.
      Nico Rosbery racing through yellow flags during the race and only getting a reprimand.
      Mercedes are 2nd in the Constructors Championship and gaining on Red Bull.

      1. Tim says:

        Mercedes are 2nd in the Constructors Championship and gaining on Red Bull…

        At least the news isn’t all bad, eh :-)

    3. MelB says:

      Why not Raikkonen?

    4. Colombia Concalvez says:

      Ferrari did there secret test in the desert, yet nobody say’s anything about it. And you congratulate Alonso ?, for what exactly ?. Alonso has done nothing special, he was lucky as usual drivers infront of him where had car problems and where send to the back of the grid. And Alonso should be penaltilized for unsafe release yet he escaped. I really can’t see what is so great about Alonso, Massa did far better than Alonso.

      1. quattro says:

        I genuine feel sorry for you. If you cannot enjoy the greatness and remarkable achievements of someone like ALO, I cannot see how on earth you will ever, appreciate great, hardcore, racing.

      2. H.Guderian says:

        “Massa did far better than Alonso”… Your HATE is obstructing your view.

  27. FerrariFan says:

    What an eventful race ! Feel really bad for Hamilton and Massa. All the tire blowouts and gearbox failure reminds me of the uncertain 90′s. We can add the spectacle of engine blowouts next year. Vettel’s lucky streak had to end and it did today. Too bad Alonso could not capitalize enough due to poor qualy. What a remarkable last British GP for Webber. I will miss him next year. As usual the enthusiasm for racing in Britain is great. More European GPs please.

    Mighty improvement from Mercedes. I really hope they can get in the title fight with a resurgent second half.

    1. Phil says:

      Mixed feelings about this one. The farce with the tyre explosions did at least lead to a sprint finish, though even that was just those who’d pitted and put new ‘boots’ on. The have-nots were just ‘sitting ducks’ as the haves went sailing past.

      Hopefully the spectacle will lead to the partisan teams realising they need to put aside their petty concerns in the interests of the sport (and safety of their drivers), or maybe I’m just being optimistic. Next thing I’ll believe the FIA will get off the fence and ask Pirelli to change the tyres.

      Bit sharp though that concrete; how did that get past all the people that walked the track??? What were they looking at?

      James et al, great commentary… I even forsook HD to listen to you and your colleagues {sigh red button} ;-)

  28. JDTF_Canada says:

    Very eventful indeed! Perhaps, now the various teams will agree to switch to the newly proposed Pirelli tires…It cannot be worse than the current breed! Too bad for Hamilton, though I believe that Vettel would have eventually passed him. I’m sorry for Vettel, but at least Alonso is now coming further into title contention – all the better for all of us, fans (two more laps and Webber would have, no doubt, passed him though). Should Ferrari find a way to regain little bit of form/pace, it’ll be exciting as far as the championship is concerned with Raikkonen not far behind.

  29. Quade says:

    @James
    Here’s a request. Can we have articles we can comment on during the race and during quali?

  30. mhilgtx says:

    Congratulations to Nico for the win.

    Big losers today are Hamilton who appeared to have the car to win today. It looks like Merc has the best if not the second best car in the field for sure now as they have made some strides on tire wear. I just do not know if it is enough to cure all of their wear issues.

    Quote of the day: “I am standing in the Pirelli area and Paul Hembry is no where to be found…”from Will Buxton.

    This marks the end of either Pirelli or these tires being used the rest of the year. Pirelli just cannot allow this to continue “debris” or not. The fact is it looks like the curbs were cutting the tires and that doesn’t seem to be a problem from the past. So if past tires could survive these curbs why can’t these new tires? The amazing part is that the FIA stepped in and kept the change from happening by demanding the teams agree. At least that is what is looks like from my perspective.

    Ferrari deserves zero points from the day as they were the driving force in not changing the tires. This wasn’t quiet the embarrassment of Indy 2005 but it was pretty dang close. F1 must be one of the most dysfunctional major businesses in the world. Yet they prove that having great content over comes much.

    I think we can lay to rest the thoughts that Ferrari “understands” the tires better than anyone else. They got it right on 2 tracks other than that RBR and the rest of the field have at least caught up.

    Masa was great today.

    Webber seemed to have a ton of wheelspin on the start, not sure what caused this but there were others that had some wheel spin too. Just not to the extent that Webber did. Too bad for Mark because he might have won today had it not been for the start. Hopefully he will get his 10th career win before the season is over. Other than that great drive coming back as much as he did.

    Smartest move of the day was Charlie Whiting calling out the safety car and ensuring the debris was cleaned off the track. Even with that we still had another tire failure.

    De-lamination…or…Tire Explosion Shock and Awe? Seriously these tires are a safety issue. We clearly saw debris hitting Kimi’s helmet. If a piece just of the car was broken off just a little larger it could have killed him or at least given him a concussion causing another wreck.

    I wonder how much time Vettel’s gearbox had on it? It will be interesting to learn what made it fail and if this will be an ongoing issue. These types of failures can be one off, or they can be real issue that lingers.

    While I felt like Vettel would be sheepish about winning due to these tires I was disappointed he didn’t. All in all I thought this was Hamilton’s race to lose after the first lap. However I am not sure that is the case if there had been the other tire explosions and Vettel had not had the gearbox issue.

    At the end of the day it was an exciting race that was more like NASCAR with better cars and better circuits.

    Lastly, this was my first Silverstone GP. I am not sure I have even seen a lap on Youtube prior to this season and it was exciting. What a great circuit Silverstone is! The way it is set up you can really tell you are watching the fastest “road racing” cars on the planet. The obvious speed and maneuvering of an F1 car is beautiful thing to watch. If I had to compare it to say NASCAR it would be like comparing Cirque du Soleil to Hockey. Both exciting and dangerous but the former is elegant and inspiring while the later is hard work and fierce competition. Cirque is highly specialized while hockey is more brute force with a large dose of luck thrown in.

    What a sport!

    1. Jordan says:

      Are you forgetting Lotus had a part in stopping the changes as well?

      And how come the steel ribbon is all of a sudden missing from the tyres? Pirelli have made changes despite being asked not to. The Merc test was not as productive as one would think.

      1. ShaBooPi says:

        This guy is just ranting cos he has an issue with Ferrari. Lotus and Force India were first in not wanting revised tires and why should they side with it? They didn’t get a secret 3 day test. In case nobody noticed the coded message “Kimi is faster than you” was used today… no one mentioned it though cos it wasn’t Ferrari.

      2. mhilgtx says:

        I started to mention Lotus but decided not to, because while they voted no they were not able to pressure other teams to vote no as well. One thing to speak your mind, another to act as a bully.

  31. Terrence Walker says:

    Perhaps there is no “perfect Formula” to make Formula One the Pinnacle of motor sports. We will all ways debate drivers, cars, rules, etc- that’s what fans do. But should tires have this much of an impact on racing? No.

  32. Quade says:

    Typo.

    4. Lewis Hamilton Lotus + 7.756
    5. Kimi Raikkonen Mercedes + 11.257

    :)

  33. Sebee says:

    Pirelli this..Pirelli that….blah blah blah.

    I have one thing to say to all those criticizing Pirelli: Shhhhhhhhh!

    That GP finish doesn’t happen without these tires.  So….shhhhhhh!

    P.S.  Whoever did the video feed switching last two laps…You sir are FIRED!

    1. Andrew M says:

      Yeah, I love drivers being robbed of rightful race finishes and victories due to random chance. At the next race I want movable chicanes, sprinklers on every corner and Mario Kart blue shells.

      1. Sebee says:

        I guess you would rather have Vettel pip Lewis for the win 1/2 way through and end off?

        I’m a Vettel fan and I loved the drama of that finish. Racing and proof that the race ends on lap 52.

      2. Andrew M says:

        If the race had played out like that then yes, by a mile. Seeing drivers’ races compromised by something the team has done is bad enough, seeing them compromised by random tyre failures out of anyone’s control is quite another.

        (And needless to say it was hardly a foregone conclusion Vettel would have beaten Lewis, he was behind him and falling back when the puncture happened and Rosberg was keeping him very honest before his gearbox failed. Pirelli robbed us of a much better race than the one we got IMO).

      3. Bumpkin says:

        It did today but It depends on the circuit :-) I’m being a pedant. Generally agree though, these robberies are part of racing & are nothing new. I certainly feel for all those who lost out when the driving was storming. Of course. But that is racing, sometimes it favours you, sometimes it just don’t.

      4. Sebee says:

        That’s right Bumpkin. I can’t believe the outrage. Everyone should be over the moon and enjoying a Shakespearian quality GP. Tragedy, drama, betrayal. As it turns out in true Shakespeare fashion Nico put poison in Vettel’s transmission at exacly midnight and Vettel was out on the track shaping the kerb at turn 4.
        When will you see this script ever again? :-)

      5. Sebee says:

        Btw Andrew, rightful place in autoracing is where you finish. No one has a claim on anything until the checker. For as long as F1 has existed rightful drivers had their spoils snatched from them in heartbreaking ways. Tires, transmission, engine, hydraulics, etc. Etc. Etc. Schumi 2006 anyone? Massa 2008? :-)

        Let’s not be all PC, fair and righteous. Every nice guy doesn’t get the girl, every ethical guy doesn’t become a billionaire, and nothing is given in F1.

      6. Andrew M says:

        That’s your opinion and I respectfully disagree :)

        Also, I think there’s a world of difference between teams suffering mechanical/operational problems like the ones you cite, and a mandatory single tyre supplier (that the teams are forced to use) not being able to produce tyres that can last a grand prix without nearly a quarter of the field suffering random failures. If it was just one car then fine, but when you have five tyre failures (more than in any single race I’ve ever seen in 20+ years, including the tyre war years when Goodyear/Bridgestone/Michelin were pushing the envelope far harder than now), it’s not bad luck, it’s negligence, and it’s outside the drivers’ and the teams’ control.

        And frankly, that’s kind of irrelevant to your initial point, that I should somehow be grateful that Pirelli introduced this random and exceedingly dangerous element into the grand prix, in the same way I should be grateful to those senseless individuals who ran onto the circuit in Britain 2003 and Germany 2000 and “livened up” those races too.

        (Notwithstanding the best racing was after the final safety car which was caused by Vettel’s retirement, and had nothing to do with Pirelli).

  34. Paige says:

    I leave this race with one thought and one thought only:

    Lewis Hamilton was plainly robbed today by Pirelli today. He had by far the best pace of anyone. He had a good 2 tenths per lap on Vettel in the supposedly better long-run car, and Nico really had no chance early on to match him. Even with a significantly damaged floor, he managed to drive his way from the bottom of the field to fourth and threaten for a podium on the last lap.

    The rest of F1 better watch out. Lewis looks like he’s found his form with a Mercedes that seems to have found its setup just as he’s coming up on four circuits where he is devastatingly quick.

    1. Robinson says:

      found his form? you are kidding right? merc found its setup? dear lord you are hilarious. Sorry my bad, i totally agree, they found what they want alright scouring through 1000 kms of basically free test.

      1. Paige says:

        Illegal test aside, Hamilton was plainly faster than anyone else. It wasn’t clear that the Merc was faster than the Red Bull today, as Vettel had no problem with Rosberg. But the bottom line is that Hamilton was the fastest guy in the field today, and he most certainly had his teammate beat fair and square.

      2. Paul says:

        I hear all these complaints from the pirelli test, and granted they have A LOT of substance. But you cannot take anything away from the drivers delivering. Lewis and Nico both drove a great race today, as did Mark and Fernando.

      3. Jordan says:

        Yes, Gerry Haliwell put it simply: Karma.

        Pirelli gave Merc the performance they needed, then took it away from one of Merc’s drivers.

        But Merc now is a formidable car. Good at qualifying and strong in the race. 1000km of testing does help.

  35. Methusalem says:

    The whole world knew for a while how worrisome the tyre issue has become. Yet, FIA is still waiting until someone is hurt seriously. This is a crime, and everyone who was trying to convince us how exciting races have become is complacent.

  36. Spinodontosaurus says:

    I think those silly razor kerbs have more to do with the tyre failures than a sub-par tyre itself.
    Also found the BBC team putting the blame on Grosjean for the 1st corner incident pretty ignorant, given the very footage they were watching clearly shows he had to move to avoid Perez hitting him. Similar to Monaco 2012 actually, wherein he got a lot of flak for something he didn’t cause.

    Yes the guy makes stupid mistakes, but for heavens sake if he has not done anything wrong then lay off him. His race from then on was very fair and clean too.

    1. Mike says:

      I couldn’t agree more regarding your comments about the BBC and Grosjean. DC was particularly scathing, when it was clear Grosjean moved to avoid contact with Perez. If Grosjean stuck to his line an accident with Perez would have occurred. What was Grosjean supposed to do?

      1. Phil says:

        There’s moving and there is moving. Grosjean swerved quite violently.

      2. Torchwood Five says:

        On the contrary, it was obvious that Grosjean was sandwiched between the non-starting Red Bull and a MacLaren.

        From the long shots I saw, the little evasive twitch Romain made to his left should not have caused the wild detour Webber made.

        Noticeable in interviews that the teams happy with the tyres up to now, Force India (Di Resta) and Lotus (Kimi), their drivers were more eager to tow the “Pirelli not to blame for tyre delaminations” line.

    2. Rishi says:

      Frustrating race in what’s been a frustrating season for Romain. Despite some promise in early races, I fear he is struggling with the tyres more than Raikkonen. I do fear for his position in the team unless he “does a Massa” in the second half of the season.

      For all that though totally agree with the sentiment expressed here; clearly Perez moved across on him and clearly Grosjean was boxed in. Maybe his movement was a fraction too aggressive but then so was Sergio’s and Mark put himself in that position with the poor start so really don’t think what happened was Grosjean’s fault.

      1. ToastandMarmite says:

        Yep – looked like a pure racing accident, too many cars on not enough track. Grosjean has certainly been at fault in the past, but I expect better from DC especially. I can’t be the only person to think he has both his favourites and guys he sticks the boot into at times?

  37. Steve says:

    This is the worst F1 season I can remember. The FIA desperately need to extract their heads from wherever it’s lodged and start doing their jobs – which means ordering tyre changes.

  38. goferet says:

    The British Grand Prix >>> WOW!!! WOW!!! WOW!!!

    Talk about drama, subplots, surprises, carnage and hard racing, all rolled into one.

    First off, well done to all drivers for displaying amazing amounts of courage for despite the tyre problems they kept on it and thankfully, no one got hurt. Hopefully Pirelli will get on top of this, preferably by bringing back the 2012 tyres.

    Right, congratulations go out to Mercedes and Rosberg on what turned out to be a very fortunate race win, it was also good to see the team exhibiting strong race pace >>> which bonds well for the future.

    Storming drives from the likes of Webber, Lewis, Alonso, Massa, Di Resta, Sutil, Perez and Ricciardo, they sure gave the fans their money’s worth with their performances.

    Bad luck for Vettel but his misfortune was just the kind of boost the sport needed for his advantage in the standings was getting too big >>> which isn’t good for competition.

    Shame, Maldonado and Bottas didn’t get the last point for Williams, they were so close and yet so far.

    Anyway, that was a thoroughly enjoyable race for me because it took the concept of unpredictability to a whole new level so we didn’t know what was going to happen till the last lap.

    P.s.

    Interesting, so in the history of Mercedes, Rosberg is the first pilot to have won a race for the team at both Monaco and Silverstone >>> plus China too.

  39. Miha Bevc says:

    THE RACE
    Probably the most interesting and dramatic of the season, but for all the wrong reasons. I have nothing against Pirelli but today it was just too much. I blame FIA because they cannot find a proper way to test these tires. You cannot ask someone to make fragile tires that are always on the limit and don’t allow to test them properly.

    MERCEDES
    Is it just me or Mercedes now looks like the best car? Always P1 on saturday and now it looks like they solved tyre issues on sunday. Say what you want but secret test surely didn’t harm.

    VETTEL
    Some say he is the luckiest driver but can someone count how many times has he retired from the lead. This must be like 5th or 6th time in 4 seasons. I know it keeps championship more interesting but anyway. If he doesn’t win in the month of july (again) he will have to fight back like last year, which might be difficult against the mighty Mercedes.

    DRIVER OF THE DAY
    The entire grid for coping with the tire roulette. But seriously, there lot’s of good drives today…

    1. SRB says:

      Vettel retires from the lead more than most because he’s in the lead most of the time!

    2. Steve says:

      “Some say he is the luckiest driver”

      Some people are working very hard to lie to themselves. SV has had twelve DNF’s from mechanical causes in his career. LH has had six.

      Newey cars have always had the reputation for being fast, but unreliable. That’s certainly been the case over the last few years.

      1. Torchwood Five says:

        Are you sure Lewis has had only six mechanical failures in his whole F1 CAREER?! It feels like he had that many in 2012 alone!

      2. Quade says:

        No need to murder history and statistics.

    3. User0815 says:

      “I blame FIA because they cannot find a proper way to test these tires.”

      Who are they trying to fool? Every Grand Prix they get data from each driver, each driving about 1000 kilometers, year after year. If they still don’t know how to build a proper tyre, they don’t deserve a place in Formula One.

    4. Macca Man says:

      It is just you, Red Bull clearly have the best car.

    5. SKan says:

      The luckiest driver on the grid is Alonso. Everytime he is behind, it makes me sure that there’s something in waiting for the leading drivers.

      1. quattro says:

        What an irony. You choose to remark on the fact that ALO managed to get 3rd through impressive racing, overtakes and taking risks, while for once having luck in the process – you mark that as LUCKY.
        But, in your eagerness for making a (none)point , you forget the reason why he needed to have luck in the first place – The FACT that, once again, he was given a car that was MORE THAN ONE SECOND slower on qualy than the cars available to the others. A car that could not manage better than 10th and 12th on the starting grid.
        One tip for you – get used to it. Not the first time and unfortunately will not be the last that The Great will have to drag a (Ferrari) donkey to the podium!

  40. Gareth says:

    All I have to say is thank god it happened here and not at Spa at Eau Rouge. This is a serious warning that whatever Pirelli have done to these tyres is not working.

  41. MrNed says:

    Exciting race, and great reporting as-ever. I wondered whether the increased tyre pressures may have had an impact on Vettel’s failure? Presumably firmer tyres would pass more stresses and strains into the drivetrain than tyres at a lower pressure. Maybe an increase of 2PSI isn’t enough of a pressure change to do this, but then if it’s enough to reduce the contact patch and reduce lateral flexing then it’s going to reduce the damping of the tyres. Any thoughts James?

  42. H.Guderiam says:

    Some thoughts after the race:

    1) Suddenly RBR stop moaning about the tyres. Wonder why…

    2) After THAT number of delaminations Charlie didn’t stop the race??? These FIA guys are working on the edge of irresponsibility. Do they need a dead driver to act???

    3) Seems clearly now Ferrari is not the best car (I think it never was). Even Force India is better. Ferrari is a JOKE. A MESS. They will never win a WDC while guys like Domenicali are there. Sad.

    4) Weber clearly showed how superior RBR car is. This car is from another planet. Nobody can stop Newey.

    5) Vettel’s DNF does not change anything. He is the season champion. End of story.

    1. Richard says:

      Same thoughts about pt 3,4,5. Odd how pretty much everybody is failing to see this.

    2. SKan says:

      Agree on everything except #3. Ferrari have the best race car barring this race. Alonso could keep playing down his team and car for all the much he could, but the evidence is right there. May be he cannot qualify fast enough! And having a donkey on the second car doesn’t provide any proper reference to how much faster the car could be on Saturdays. Ferrari really need a good 2nd driver in the current F1 to push for results.

    3. JCA says:

      Have you not been reading the BBC and Sky formula 1 websites? Both have posts of Horner, among others, decrying the tyres as dangerous, saying Alonso could have been seriously injured if he had been struck by a piece of tyre. Rosbergs tyre wear was better than Vettels, Hamilton was flying all race, pre and post puncture, and their car has had 5 poles, Vettels poles have come in changeable conditions. I’d say the Merc was the best car this weekend.

    4. Yak says:

      Point 4 isn’t so clear cut. Cars dropping back or out with tyre problems, safety cars, and RB’s good strategy vs the what some others were on, etc. And of course aside from his abysmal start, Webber put in a fantastic drive (as he tends to at Silverstone). If the RB is so superior, how did Hamilton utterly ruin both RB’s in quali, and then lead the first part of the race, opening up a decent gap to Vettel? We’ve seen what Vettel can do when the RB is the superior car, i.e. 2011.

  43. Srinivas says:

    Lotus and Ferrari call to block changes totally backfired. It is pretty obvious that Mercs gained a lot with the secret test. It would have been an awesome race to watch with vettel and hamilton fighting for the lead, had it not been down to tire issues.

  44. Mike says:

    Is the construction of these tyres the same as those tyres which suffered from the delaminations which were witnessed earlier in the season?

  45. Rudy Pyatt says:

    Some great action, especially the final 10 laps. But the tire failures… These incidents may put paid to the testing restrictions, probably should. It looks like the MB 1K did Pirelli no good for current tire safety, whatever data they may have gained for next season.

    On safety grounds, the FIA should announce that all teams can conduct testing right there at Silverstone, starting tomorrow, at whatever mileage they choose. Give everyone an exemption on engine allocation to do so, but let them sort these tire problems before next race.

    1. Rudy Pyatt says:

      I must add that tire problems or not, for McLaren to be sandwiched between Force India and Torro Rosso in the WCC, with the former likely to open that gap and the latter likely to close it on present form; well, that just beats all.

  46. Srinivas says:

    Vettel undoubtedly would have taken his second win at silverstone had it not been down to gearbox issue.

    1. Richard says:

      Hamilton undoubtedly would have taken his second win at silverstone had it not been to tyre issue*

    2. Kingszito says:

      Don’t count on that. I could say Lewis could have taken his second win at Silverstone had it not been the tyre failure. Rosberg deserves the win because he was at the right place at the right time. I pity Vettel and Lewis today because they were the biggest losers of the whole drama.

    3. RodgerT says:

      Vettel already took his second win in Canada.

      1. Rockie says:

        Third win he took at Canada not second.

  47. Jack says:

    I think it’s interesting that there were no such incidents of tyre delamination (read: destruction) in the support races of GP2 which to my knowledge use the same spec tyres as F1. So perhaps a mixture of the higher track temperature this afternoon, higher mass and speeds of the cars played their part? That said.. The hottest English afternoon can’t compare to Malaysia.. Great drives by the top bunch esp. Webber and the resurgence of Hamilton for the short sprint at the end!

    1. J says:

      More extreme setups in F1 for sure. GP2/GP3 also run Perelli tires but with less downforce. A few teams have also been running super low tire pressures = more flex in the sidewall. Saw something similar but for different reasons a few years ago when extreme camber angles from some teams were causing blistering on the front tires.

  48. Steve says:

    Ever since the “secret illegal tyre test” Mercedes have looked very, very strong. A win in Monaco, a podium n Montreal, and now a win in Silverstone. They have to be be favorites to win the WCC (and possibly the WDC) on this form.

    Nothing like illegally colluding with the FIA and the tyre maker to sort out your problems I guess.

    1. Robert N says:

      It is certainly true that Mercedes suddenly do not seem to have serious tyre problems any more. It would be interesting to hear James’s thoughts on that.

      1. Poyta says:

        Pretty sure that James would rather based his thoughts on facts rather than speculate or add to conspiracy theories.

    2. LT says:

      Of course!! Just like Ferrari did in the early 2000s. But now that the shoe’s on the other foot……

  49. Andrew M says:

    Yeah, he sure beat Lewis fair and square today. Can’t think of any luck Nico had. Not one bit.

    1. Paige says:

      You kidding?

      Lewis had Nico covered by .4-.5 of a second today.

      There is no question who should have won this race on merit, and it was the guy who won pole and was clearly fastest today.

      1. Poyta says:

        I think he was being sarcastic.

      2. David C says:

        Mark destroyed NR at the end so there is no way to know for sure what Seb could have done to Lewis, any time NR closed on Seb he was able to respond and I suspect he was driving within himself because of the tyre issues. It would have been great to watch though.

  50. alan says:

    from what i seen this weekend.quali and the race,lewis has 1/2championships in him.

  51. Michael S says:

    How on earth did Rosberg pit while 14 seconds ahead of Kimi and come out ahead?! of course he was speeding under yellow.

    Lotus crushed Kimi’s race by not pitting him.

    1. Phil Glass says:

      Best review of the race so far that I’ve seen !

  52. Get Well Soon Murray says:

    That was sad to see. That was Hamilton’s race today. All spoilt however due the lottery of who’s tyre was going to explode. I hope he gets his much deserved race win soon.

    And well done teams / FIA for not allowing Perreli to do something about the tyres. God only knows what’s going to happen in the remaining races. Today F1 got away lightly. Another day and someone is going to get hurt.

    Still at least Hamilton did manange to back up to forth, and there was quite a lot of action going on up and down the field. And Hamilton could have even had Alonso at the end, despite Alonso having a fresher set of tyres.

  53. Time for the teams to stop dicking about and allow Pirelli to introduce the modified tire construction that they have not been able to introduce. My sympathy for the teams is limited since when it comes to tires, they couldn’t even find the brewery much less organize the piss-up…

  54. Robinson says:

    Ross is an evil genius, a brilliant tricky maneuver that will definitely will come to full circle come Germany. Hamilton and Rosberg are not really that big of a factor now except for the added familiarity of the car through the legal 1000 km test, its all about their car showing its full potential in the best possible venue they could ever dreamed of, Mercedes in Germany, with a German driver.

  55. Matt says:

    Several days ago, I told y’all that bad luck would eventually hit Vettel. It is called karma. You don’t disobey team order and screw over your teammate for the win in Malaysia and not expect something bad to happen to you.
    Yes, some of y’all will point out that Webber disobeyed team-order too, but does two wrongs make Vettel’s action right? Shumacher did a lot of underhanded things in his F1 career, but I don’t think he ever screwed over his own teammate.
    Be honest, how many of y’all cheered when Vettel’s car started slowing down? The fans at the race certainly
    cheered.

    1. FerrariFan says:

      Plus all the booing at the podium in Canada. He is already a divisive figure in F1.

      1. Matt says:

        The Canadians booed Vettel at the Canadian Grand Prix because his pass on Webber reminds them of what Didier Pironi did to their beloved Gille Villeneuve at the San Marino Grand Prix.

      2. Steve says:

        Ah ha! So it’s Vettel’s fault that yob’s behave like yobs! Is there no end to the mans powers?

    2. Scott says:

      It’s not karma, it’s random acts of misfortune, of which Vettel has had his fair share despite an attempt by some to brand him lucky and devalue his achievements.

      I was amused at one of the drivers (?JEV) during the drivers’ parade while parroting the usual inane diplomatic answers single out the good old British fans for praise for their support of “all” the drivers. Unless you happen to be German, I suppose.

    3. Chris says:

      grow up

    4. Magos says:

      “… but I don’t think he ever screwed over his own teammate.” HOW OLD ARE YOU?

    5. Steve says:

      “Yes, some of y’all will point out that Webber disobeyed team-order too, but does two wrongs make Vettel’s action right”

      Well, shucks, pardner…. yes, two wrongs DO make Vettel’s action right.

      Hope I cleared that up for y’all.

    6. David C says:

      Mark disobeyed a team order in silent stone 2 years ago and attacked Seb, British fans an absolute disgrace today. I would 100% understand if a brittish driver had taken the lead or was in the battle. It’s time like this I’m proud to be not brittish.

    7. f1future says:

      Fans in Silverstone are notorious for their Schadenfreude. Doesn’t happen at other tracks, though.

  56. Phil Glass says:

    three races back they were happy to finish in the points. Amazing how their pace has developed so much faster than everyone else. Wonder how they managed to do that!

    1. Robinson says:

      “”engineering skills”” apparently and totally “”amazing drivers””, not to mention good team behind them, i mean Ross Brawn is totally a “”legit,honest,straigt forward guy””.

  57. brendan says:

    hi james,i no this might sound a stupid idea,but didn’t no one do a track walk before the race or practice and see the raised shape edge kerb.
    the way the turn 4 is,a car is always going to slide into the edge if the driver goes to far over.
    it is not all Pirelli fault.
    even jockeys walk the track before a horse race,
    why don’t all driver do it?

    1. Quade says:

      That kerb excuse is as lame as it gets. Do you know how many raises were held at Silverstone today? Why did it happen only in F1 and not other formulas?

      By the way, F1 has always had kerbs. What will we hear next, that F1 should be raced with hovercraft to avoid contact with the track?

      The tyres are unadulterated rubbish and it is Pirelli that makes them.

      1. brendan says:

        why did the left rears only fail then? the kerb was a factor in the failure of the tyres.
        the other formula’s are not going at the same speed, and their tyres might have a difference wall strength. also they might not be riding the kerbs as much.
        I am not defending the tyres, but that kerb should of not be like that.
        Pirelli have been given a criteria to design the tyres to, they only doing what the FIA have told them to do.
        having no testing during the season is not helping, as with out it, it is harder to improve the design through out the season.
        bring back refuelling and it will solve most of the problem’s.means more pit stops,but at least the fastest car will win. be no nursing the types round.

      2. Quade says:

        Gutierez had a front tyre explosion. That bursts the fulcrum of your argument.
        Also, if you’ve watched car racing for any length of time, kerbs have always been used. They will be used in the next race too and forever after that. It is a fact of motor racing, if Pirelli’s tyres cannot cope with it, then they need to admit failure and walk the plank.

      3. brendan says:

        by kerbs I don’t mean the rounded kerbs,on turn 4 the edge of the kerb was 90 degrees,any tyre wall hiting it would of failed.
        4 or 5 tyres failed after turn 4.
        I was happy I bet nico at 12/1 and webber for a place,i won quite a lot of money.
        I watch f1 to make money,i didn’t like the tyres at the start of the season.
        I have had the last 5 winners and last 4 poles, so am happy.
        Pirelli is making me money.
        my Monaco winnings bought me new tyres(£500)for my car.( not Pirelli ha)
        I make the rubbish tyres make me money.
        bring on Germany I say.

  58. Antti says:

    Delaminations are the topic of the day, but I find it quite interesting how, in the first race on a real racing track with fast corners since the illegal test by Mercedes, there were no signs of any tyre degradation problems for Merc. They were clearly faster than Ferrari and Lotus without any signs of dramatic loss of performance like earlier in the season. Does anyone still believe they got no advantage from the test?

    1. User0815 says:

      It seems you have failed to see that Mercs problems got less every race and that track temperature played a key part in the problem. England is not Bahrain, I might add.
      It’s a steady process and they slowly seem to get the hang of it.

      1. Antti says:

        Incorrect. The last race before the test was Barcelona, in which Mercedes took home 8th and 12th positions after locking the front row. That has been their whole season before the test. Since the test, we had two street circuits (Monaco and Canada), which hide tyre degradation issues somewhat, and now Silverstone, where they were clearly a lot faster than either Ferrari or Lotus without any problems with tyre degradation. That is not a gradual, steady process, there has been a dramatic improvement in the race pace/tyre degradation handling of the Mercedes car since the test.

      2. Kingszito says:

        How could 3 day tyre test solve Merc tyre deg.? I don’t believe that their controlled tyre deg (as it seems) is down to the 3 day test, because if 3 days test was what they needed to solve their tyre deg., then their problem could have been solved long before Barcelona test. If you are pointing Monaco, Canada and Silverstone podiums as your reason, don’t forget that Lewis had been on Podium twice before the private test. It’s a gradual process. Did they learn anything from the test! I believe so. But was the test the silver bullet to their recent success, I totally disagree.

      3. Poyta says:

        I seem to recall they actually did very well prior to Barcelona too so their performance has really been up and down quite a bit. Yes I’m surprised they did so well at Silverstone but then again every team apart from Ferrari seems to improve so no reason why Mercedes couldn’t improve. Still not convinced that they have completely solved their tyre problems.

      4. Matt says:

        “Slowly seems to get the hang of it.” I just love that part of your posting. Lewis Hamilton started on pole in Bacelona and finished 12th…a lap down!

        Secret…Oops! Private Pirelli test where Mercedes used their 2014 race car and their RACE DRIVERS wore different helmits.

        No comment on Monaco. It is tailor made for Mercedes.

        Two races later and Lewis finishes in 3rd place.

        Three races later and Mercedes wins the race and takes 4th place. That’s not exactly slow in my book. If you really want to see slow, talk to McLaren.

      5. Rockie says:

        This is truly funny a car that was lapped at Barcelona now does 28 laps on one compound of tyre and was as fast as the Ferrari on new tyres after 21 laps yea right the 1000km did not help at all.

    2. Robinson says:

      Are you technically saying they got caught cheating and got away basically unscathed? You are such a hamilton/rosberg hater! Why can you let these guys win? Its totally fine to break the rules and basically gain a huge amount of unfair advantage, i mean, hamilton is the best driver ever in the world if we give him a second a lap faster than its competitors, thats just a beast of a “talent” that guy, and Nico is right there with him. Please let us get at least one constructors championship, even once,allow us to use all the “cheatery” available and let us win a real f1 drivers championship in the modern era through unrealistic means? Stop the hate, merc the best of all time ever!

    3. SKan says:

      So, you say that Mercedes learnt nothing about the tires in 3 years and magically found the fix in the 1000km test? Merc have been improving for a while now on their tire consumption – Barcelona aside.

    4. Laplce Bessel says:

      The race had 2 safety cars. I think that helped quite a bit!

  59. AlexD says:

    Do not blame Pirelli, open your eyes and blame FIA, they are there for a reason, Pirelli is not governing the sport and is just delivering accordingly to requests

    1. Veteran says:

      FIA did not order garbage
      FIA did not order exploding tyres
      FIA did not order slow tyres

      All the FIA said was, look at Canada 2010 and base your tyres like that. Nothing else…

      Pirelli is solely responsible for their product. Not the FIA.

      1. AlexD says:

        Pirelli is not running the sport. Get real.

      2. Mike from Colombia says:

        Pirelli is not running the sport.

        Pirelli is ruining the sport.

      3. DMBK says:

        Canada 2010 was made exciting due to the tyres falling apart due to an overly abrasive surface, damaged by frost the previous winter, and a very hot day. When the FIA asked Pirelli to repeat those conditions they couldn’t make the tarmac more abrasive or the air hot at every track, so they had to make the tyres more sensitive to high temps and the rubber less resistant to shearing forces so that it wears.

        The FIA and the teams are the ones who will not allow Pirelli to test the tyres on a current car for meaningful distances and in varied conditions. When Goodyear, Bridgestone and Michelin were suppliers teams tested for thousands of miles at multiple circuits on different cars. Bridgestone were known to turn up at Fiorano with enough tyres to go through potentially hundreds of different construction and compound permutations for M Schumacher to try. The test mileages pre-season were near to a full season’s mileage per team. The tyres were near-perfect.

        Pirelli are being asked to produce an inferior product and then not allowed to test it correctly on some of the most brutal racing cars around. I have every sympathy for Pirelli, they were doomed from the start.

    2. User0815 says:

      Didn’t know the FIA requested tyre delamination and explosion or notoriously small temperature windows. Can you please elaborate more deeply? You seem to know something others don’t.

    3. Jordan says:

      People don’t order defective goods.

  60. Get Well Soon Murray says:

    What?

  61. Nathan says:

    Oh dear

  62. ShaBooPi says:

    Vettel only inherited the lead from Hamilton’s misfortune with the tyre so you should be the one to stop moaning Val. All I can say is this race was hilarious. All of the title contenders had some misfortune, Alonso had a tyre failure multiple close calls and pitted to lose 5 places because of the safety car. The good news? The finger went limp in Britain today! Yes boys, yes! Finally his other nine fingers won’t feel left out. Finally the bad luck falls on him, [mod]

    1. Steve says:

      “Finally the bad luck falls on him”

      Yeah, “finally”!. Vettel (12 mechanical DNF’s) has had considerably more bad luck over the last seven years than either Hamilton (6) or Alonso (3).

      1. ShaBooPi says:

        He’s also had the fastest car over the last 4 years partly because of newey it is somewhat fragile but fast. Hamilton or Alonso would easily choose to drive his car instead, so its a moot point? Why not bring up the mechanical DNFs of Williams and Caterham too? All you have to look at is last years last race where he could crash into Senna and speed markers and still drive on problem free. I guess for things to be fair he needs the fastest car and one that matches the most reliable slow car on the grid?

      2. Rockie says:

        So you believe he intentionally wanted to test the strength of his car against Senna also id Alonso felt that way he should have done same.

      3. f1future says:

        Alonso Chose Ferrari over Red Bull, didn’t you know?

      4. AlexD says:

        Mechanical is nit the only way to be unlucky. Remember how many cars were wiped out by grosjean?

      5. Rockie says:

        Vettel started 10th and after Grosjean wiped out 4 cars he was 12th.

      6. Tom says:

        LOL mechanical reliability is not the only for of luck. Why can’t Vettel fans just admit that he is incredibly lucky, so much so that its kind of strange. Never seen a driver with more love from the gods than him, and I’ve watched a lot of racing.

    2. RodgerT says:

      When did Alonso have a tire fail?

  63. Seán Craddock says:

    Could anybody explain to me why DiResta started 21st? I thought he was starting last on the grid?

    1. BW says:

      VDG had his gearbox opened on Sunday morning, +5.

    2. Richard says:

      Van der Garde still had a 10 place penalty from Montreal. Considering he took is penalty before Di Resta, VDG should have started 21st.

    3. Greg (Aus) says:

      He was found under weight at scrutineering after qualifying and copped a penalty.

      Cheers,

      Greg

      1. Greg (Aus) says:

        Sorry forgot to add, apparently he gets a time penalty based on the amount he is under. I don’t have the exact calculation, although NBC were showing it as 5kgs = .2s/lap.

    4. Quade says:

      Apparently, he grew smaller before quali and was deemed to be of illegal weight.

      Damn!

      You see, at previous quali’s, he usually had massive helpings of bangers, mash and a couple o’ healthy kipper’s all drowned with generous splashes of cider. These helped him to weigh a tad more, but misfortune struck on Saturday when he decided to diet instead and weighed only as much as a higly tortured mouse.

    5. Jordan says:

      He was disqualified from qualifying for being over weight. Too much fish and chips The night before. :)

    6. SamH123 says:

      Van de Garde took a gearbox penalty on Sunday and I think the penalties are applied in the order they are given so Di Resta was moved to the back before VDG was moved to the back

  64. Chris says:

    Great race, but for all the wrong reasons. We love a bit of drama and excitement, and F1 has delivered on both fronts today. Fortunately for all the drivers, marshals and spectators, nobody was injured. This time at least. These tyres/kerbs need to be sorted ASAP, or else we risk another Indy 2005 in a more extreme way (as there are no other tyre manufacturers in F1!)

    Oh, and you may want to look at the drivers finishing positions in your article James. Unless you know something we dont, Lewis apparently drives for Lotus and Kimi for Mercedes!!!

  65. Rich C says:

    Yep, all those team engineers were right: NO more tire testing is needed.

  66. Rich C says:

    Oh, and my advisor, the Psychic Armadillo, says Pirelli will quit F1 for sure now.

  67. F1 Bobby says:

    Hamilton was spectacular. Mercedes looking strong, maybe at last RBR have some competition.

  68. STIGG says:

    How many tyre failures would have occurred at Indianapolis ’05 if all 20 cars took part in the race – more or less?

    1. DMBK says:

      I seem to remember Michelin reporting at the time that in the last free practice session before the race (might have even been qualifying), most of their tyres were close to the point of failure ie after a few laps.

      Seeing as they were looking to radical measures of a chicane, avoiding the turn altogether or even using Bridgestones on their teams’ cars, it must’ve been pretty much inevitable the tyres would fail.

      1. STIGG says:

        This is what I’m getting at. It might not have been as severe but there was that feeling of inevitability that the tyres would fail. Look at Rosberg and Alonso, pitting because their tyres had started to delaminate.

        It’s a horrible hole Pirelli has dug itself. While the shovel may be in their hands, they’re in this mess because there were too many foremen giving orders but now they have to find their way out, and quick.

  69. Hansb says:

    No these tyres seem not OK but the strange thing is they exploded without warning when before the tyres held pressure but the rubber delaminated.
    Maybe the kerbs sliced the sidewall of the tyre?

    I know all hammy fans dont care but to me, the Mercedes race pace is a disgrace. In Spain they were almost lapped by Alonso, today the Merc was probably the fastest car on track. Everybody said Silverstone was the test to see if Merc had learned anything from the secret test… Well we have an answer havent we ?

    Furthermore Lotus has to change its front suspension because illegal. They have been using it since 2012 !
    Im not discussing if there is an advantage here.
    I am just wondering if FIA have mud in their eyes. Dont they check these cars anymore or do they just do a quick walkaround and let rival teams find out what is illigal or not ?

  70. Hansb says:

    Btw Lewis for DotD.

  71. Fareed Ali says:

    The bad pit call by Lotus at the end may have cost them the services of Kimi next year.

  72. Krischar says:

    I had big chuckle when people commented vettel as unlucky.

    In fact vettel was lucky to take the lead from Hamilton. yet thank god vettel rightly had the failure

    1. Me says:

      Right… god forbid anyone should overtake him on merit…

    2. Rockie says:

      The sad part for you is that even with Vettel’s failure Alonso has bigger worries now as he has two mercs that are going to put a spanner in his championship quest.

  73. Thompson says:

    Blow out, Nico got lucky today Sebs Dnf _has spiced things up nicely
    A few weeks ago I said Mercs will only need to resolve their race pace and they will dominate – before tiregate test too. The way they have been going they were getting to the sharp end anyway

    Fact is they are locking out the front row the car is fast!

    Wonder if it’s too late to put money on Hamilton for wdc 2013?

    The season just woke up

    1. Tim says:

      +1
      Wonder if it’s too late to put money on Hamilton for wdc 2013?…

      Not too late, but the odds will have got a lot shorter ;-)

  74. alan says:

    on a positive note,thank god pirelli are not in the condom making business.

  75. Seifenkistler says:

    Wasn’t Hamilton to fast with the damaged tyre? There were parts shot away on the whole way to the box.

  76. Don says:

    Bring back Goodyear – they were quietly supplying tyres for 45 years without once making the headlines!

  77. Shashikant says:

    Hi james…….F1 is absolute rubbish these days thanks to fia asking Pirelli to make racing more aggressive by changing tyre composition and teams like lotus, Ferrari and to some extent force India for vetoing against revising the tyres……they just can’t play with the lives of drivers…..had that tyre strapped off at another corner like maggots and Beckett car wid ve spun out of control…..I for one am no longer a fan of f1 anymore where drivers think about tyres instead of pushing flat out…. That’s how the sport has changed this year with the dreaded word being the T- word…..T for tyres T for taboo……..:( :(

  78. luqa says:

    Blaming the curbs at turn 4 is a copp-out. It is more likely the wafer thin condoms supplied by Pirelli disguised as tires failed because that cannot take the centrifugal loads and forces exerted upon them- specifically the left rear condom.
    Unless of course it can be demonstrated the curbs have been replaced or changed since the last F1 race at Silverstone a year ago.
    These tires are a hazard and need to be replaced before someone gets seriously hurt- think Eau Rouge or 130R or Spoon.
    Give the teams- except AMG MB a 3 day test NOW with their regular drivers and postpone the German GP for a week, allowing the results from the test to be evaluated and implemented with less destructive tires.

    1. Tim says:

      I disagree.
      The race track is the black stuff between the white lines. Kerbs should be treated like walls – not to be driven in to. It’s no difference to driving over a high kerb and destroying the underside of the floor.

  79. Richardd says:

    You can’t expect the kind of tyres the FIA want without having to test them adequately on current cars (on which they will be driven really hard) You test them on older spec cars and expect them to perform to scratch on current cars? Ridiculous

  80. DK says:

    Grosjean and Alonso were those in the tow of the respective cars and were lucky in avoiding contact with the flailing rubber.

    I thought it was Kimi who was in the tow driving through the flying debris of JEV’s tyre blowout. Amazing to see some of the debris has actually hit him, luckily not the bigger ones.

  81. Irish con says:

    I think bernie was the man who wanted the tyres like Canada not the FIA. But people saying its Pirelli making the tyres softer that’s causes the problems is wrong. The tyres last year and in 2011 didn’t do this. Whatever Pirelli changed over the winter is the reason. And were has the belt gone to that was there earlier in the season?

    Plus bad luck for vettel but we really needed that to keep the championship sort of open.

  82. Nick4 says:

    There was plenty of warning IRO these tyre failures. I can recall on this forum the views expressed that the priority should be to fix the tyre failures before the addressing the fact that there were too many pitstops in the Spanish GP. Whereas Lotus and Ferrari had a car that had been well adapted to the tyres the FIA had specified, Merc and RB had not. Now the situation is reversed and more suspiciously so after the secret Merc test – Ferrari and Lotus are slower and struggling, Merc and RB are very quick. Bottom line – just make a tyre that can last. I would not blame Pirelli for pulling out next year. Todt and BE have a lot to answer for in this dreadful PR mess.

  83. Jim says:

    Why don’t they get a street sweeper and a blower to clean the track after there’s been debris scattered all over the track? This is freaking NASCAR tech ffs! Would the last few laps been even remotely interesting had there not been a safety car? More restarts are just what F1 needs imo.. Point proven today

  84. Msta says:

    Does anyone else think it strange that Vettel couldn’t manage to park his car somewhere out of the way where a safety car could be avoided? Causing the safety car to come out like that ruined the races of Alonso, Kimi and Ricciardo. Mark Webber referred to SV as ”Michael” just before the podium.

    Also, why was Sutil not given a drive through penalty for blocking Ricciardo?

    1. Joseph F says:

      Yep I didnt even see if that got investigated. thought that was pretty harsh that he didnt get a place higher. But harsher was the fact they didnt make the right call with tires. He could of finished couple places higher minimum :)

    2. quest says:

      How did he ruin the races of Alonso, Kimi and Ricciardo.

      Alonso finished higher than he would have otherwise.

      Kimi should have finished second anyway, but Lotus dropped the ball.

      Ricciardo finished exactly around where he would have.

      As for Webber calling him “Michael”, by that logic Webber must be “Rubens”. Not need to say which is better.

    3. tozzie says:

      Sutil fended right, then the big chop left. That was a nasty double. Box.

  85. peter says:

    rosbergs performance was great. although to be honest looking back to last year – i think everybody completely underestimated schumacher.

  86. Andrew Woodruff says:

    I think the cheers when Vettel retired were more because people want a tighter championship, than because he is genuinely unpopular. Even if Malaysia didn’t help in that regard, the main thing people dislike is that no one has been able to challenge him from outside Red Bull. Ultimately most people understand the sense in and the need for a no.1/no.2 driver structure at the top teams.

    I thought Sky’s coverage of the Guttierez tyre failure was strange, anybody? They didn’t show any replays and made the odd assumption that someone had hit one of the brake marker boards to explain the debris, when all afternoon tyres had been exploding everywhere!

    In my view Pirelli, the FIA and the teams share responsibility for the current tyre situation. Five blow outs in one race is undeniably incompetent, but we cannot forget Pirelli wanted to change the construction and the teams could not agree. For goodness sake, let Pirelli now bring the new tyre, let’s get to the end of the season with no more tyre-related accidents, and then start again at the same time as the new regs.

    1. AlexD says:

      No….people do not like Vettel. I met him in person in a restaurant, even have a photo with him…wished him all the best, but after multi 21 I can’t stand the guy.

      1. f1future says:

        You probably don’t like racing then? Better stick with team orders, right?

      2. AlexD says:

        OK…so let’s assume you are a massive fan of sword fighting. You and your brother. You are very good, both of you and you meet every now and then and do a real sword fight (safe environment, etc). There comes a moment when you both say – yeap, good fight…you won. So you turn your back and move to pick up your towel…great fight it was. But your brother stabs you in your back.

        I real fighter this guy it, unlike you! It doesn’t matter you agreed that the fight is over, you agreed even before the race started, but…one is a real fighter indeed.

        I wish you many such “racy” moments in your life if you enjoy them so much.

    2. Tim says:

      I thought Sky’s coverage of the Guttierez tyre failure was strange, anybody? They didn’t show any replays and made the odd assumption that someone had hit one of the brake marker boards to explain the debris….

      I am pretty sure he did hit one of the brake marker boards, there was a shot of him getting a nose change later on.

      1. Tim says:

        My mistake, apparently it was a front tyre failure – presumably that damaged his nose.

  87. MaxCO2 says:

    Someone please explain to me how people that have no credentials in the tire industry have managed to inspect all of the failed tires and come to the conclusion that “delamination” was the cause.
    If they haven’t, I’m pretty sure they, firstly, need to look up “delamination” in the dictionary and, secondly, keep their opinions to themselves until “facts” are made public.

  88. Hiten says:

    Finally teams opposing tyre changes will come to their senses..Ferrari has already changed their tune..

  89. Scuderia McLaren says:

    I feel sorry for Pirell,i and as someone who raced open wheel race cars for a while at a reasonably high level, I also feel equally for the drivers. What Alonso had to avoid and what happen to Kimi was totally effing disgusting! I really felt the terror that Alonso must have felt and can imagine what Kimi must have felt when huge parts of tyre carcass are pelted into his car. Believe me when I say, this would have been terrifying. I wouldn’t honestly race on those tyres again. But I don’t blame Pirelli.

    I blame the idiotic self serving selfish teams for their short sighted behaviour and inability to let Pirelli fix the situation. They don’t drive the cars and they will be too blame when injury occurs. If I were at the next GPDA meeting… I can’t even finish that thought.

    When politics begins to do such things to Drivers, then we have lost our sporting way. Feel like punching any team owner who veto’d tyre change because their car might be worse off in the face.

  90. Tim says:

    After the third tyre in space of not so many laps blew out, I couldn’t believe the race wasn’t red-flagged.
    I’ve been involved in events in the past (as a key official) where we’ve had to do precisely this, though due to unknown/unlocated debris, when multiple cars started having tyre failures.

    What puzzled me is that these tyres failed well before we were seeing severe graining and performance degradation or lap times dropping right off.

  91. C Lin says:

    Time to get Michelin.

  92. Jon says:

    Great Last 9 laps! Shout out to Alonso, Webber and Hamilton and congrats to Rosberg to hang in there. How good is it to finally see Lewis push that car, he looked way more comfortable and towards the end he was a pleasure to watch! oh yeah the tyres……whatever….not going to mention what the previous 231 posts have been saying.

  93. Mike from Colombia says:

    James, is there now a real chance that Pirelli will leave F1 at the end of this year?

    Will this be Todt’s opportunity to bring in Michelin?

  94. JohnBt says:

    What an explosive race for the wrong reasons.
    5 explosions is too dangerous, after JEV explosion I thought the race will be red flagged. But because of the safety car there was real racing for the last 7 laps never seen before in a long while.

    As for Nurburgring I don’t think there’s time to make tires safer so let’s hope all will be well. Drivers will not attempt going flat out when they can out of fear.

    Bernie and FIA will be hounding Pirelli to keep their reputation and Pirelli PR is down the drain and I’m sure will affect the commercial side of business.

    WHAT A MESS!

    Poor Lewis, lucky Nico and Alonso, happy Webber and
    bad karma for Vettel as most will believe.
    Did I hear the 3days test helped Merc?

    Ferrari will be testing soon…..Horner, what do you think?

  95. howardm says:

    May have been mentioned in this thread before but, bring back Goodyear!!!!

  96. Debadutta Panigrahi says:

    Lotus made a bad decision by not electing to pit Kimi under the second SC. Kimi lost valuable points which is not helpful in a tight championship fight.

    Also,Mercedes seems to have overcome their tyre issues since Rosberg was keeping up with vettel before vettel’s car failure.

  97. Elie says:

    I’m stunned by that excuse for a race !- I don’t think even Pirelli have a clue about how marginal their own tyres are- otherwise who puts drivers at risk like that !! The FIA have alot to answer for because the scipt they gave Pirelli has always been wrong. I’ve always stated that you cannot manufacture a tyre with such fine operating margins and be sure that its reliable for all- clearly that’s always been the case. I’ve always believed a tyre should be made to last longer. Rules should ensure both compounds are used in a race with each compound able to last at least 20 laps.- the only difference being performance- nothing more and absolutely nothing less.

    Lewis and Felipe deserve trophies for their drives back through the field and will we ever truly know why a great driver like Mark Webber never gets his car off the line properly- something just not right there. Fantastic drive back through the field by him. Im still seething at Lotus for no pitting Kimi when he asked to come in. Had they done so- he would have attacked Nico and the Mercs tyres would not have lasted and Kimi would have at least kept 2nd. The fact he managed 25 laps on those tyres also deserves a medal as everyone else was “popping” them much sooner. Maybe this reflects the need for Kimi to move on to Red Bull because he’s just pushing the proverbial up-hill with that team.

    Why Nico never got a drive through for speeding under double yellows is just ridiculous ! More evidence of Mercedes “winning” favour with the FIA.

    I guess now the teams have no choice but to revert to the Kevlar construction tyres of last year- and do it in a hurry- don’t wait to Wednesday because as Martin Whitmarsh said – it might be too late for the Nurburgring.

  98. David C says:

    Absolute farce of a race, but entertaining none the less, a few thing to consider
    1. Tyres ….. Lol, firstly the compound and to the people who said the tyres were not hard enough nobody one stopped so choice was fine. Secondly they kept blowing up time for Pirelli to change the tyres regardless of some teams moaning. I was really disappointed for LH today and indeed all the guys who suffered tyre failures, thank you lotus and force India.
    2. Championship seems more open now which is good with merc maybe coming into play.
    3. Brittish fans = worst in F1, I thought brazil fans when LH won were terrible but at least they could say that he took the title of one there countrymen. SV crashing out didn’t positively effect the britts.
    4. MW making a very bad joke about the next GP, good luck mate, maybe you would be less bitter if you hadn’t of choked in Korea 2010.
    5. Force (stop trying to keep the tyres) India had great pace today, torro rosso too. Good to see the teams with less money making their way up the grid.

  99. veeru says:

    absolute ridiculous. I pitied them when they were getting all the scrap after the tyre gate, but now we know that their statement

    “we are requested to make tyres not long last” is a blatant cover up of their inferior tyres.

    some one might have got seriously injured today. At that speed, that chunk of rubber hitting your helmet is a killer.

    really really sutpid

  100. ciao says:

    Toro Rosso won’t be able to race top 10 consistently with their level of pit stop performance.

    Massa might just be the fastest starter in F1 history.

    Webber doesn’t launch when he is near Vettel; he does launch when he’s not. The stats speak, RB can explain themselves or leave the brand swinging in the wind

  101. Louis says:

    What about Bianchi ? 2sec a lap faster than Chilton whose been racing in Silverstone for almost 10years ! Really hope he Gets a drive in a competitive team next year, he’s gonna blow you mind away.

  102. aveli says:

    why don’t pirelli use the bridgestone specification but with enough rubber to last the number of laps they need for 2/3 stop race strategies? this will ensure the tyres don’t fail but provide the level entertainment the fia wants.

  103. Elie says:

    James the other thing that I want to know is why the marshals are ignoring a lot of track debris. Many of the incidents leading to tyre delaminations are preceded by minor collisions and front wing damage where we can see carbon fibre flying off. No one likes yellow flags but one lap slow downs for a quick sweep would avoid much of this.

    In Bahrain we saw the Sauber front nose cone become dislodged and cf fly everywhere- one lap later Massa had his tyre fail and then the Merc .Same thing yesterday. Grosjean and Webber clipped- as soon as you see CF fly guaranteed you will see someone’s tyre go pop very soon afterwards is there a relaxing of track rules on this ? As in the past it was almost the other way!

  104. Mark says:

    Did Vettel’s car have a camera on board? I would love to see footage of Lewis’ tyre exploding right in front of him and Vettel’s avoiding action.

    Similar to Perez and Alonso.

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