Posted on July 3, 2012
Red Bull

Nick Harris, one of the leading driver fitness trainers in F1 and an old friend of, and contributor to, the JA on F1 site has been speaking about the age old question of how fit F1 drivers are relative to other sportsmen.

Harris also works with two of the leading tennis players currently competing at Wimbledon and, speaking at the launch on Monday of a new range of sports clothing based on the lessons he has learned from working with top athletes, he said that although F1 is uniquely brutal in its demands on the driver, tennis is a more physically demanding sport than F1 because the athletes have no idea how long they will be on court for and may rack up many hours with the next match coming soon after the last.

Who’s fitter the F1 driver or the tennis player?

“It is very specific. For sheer exertion over 90 minutes then Formula 1 is the most demanding. You are sat in a cockpit with 50 degree temperatures, race suit and helmet on. You are pulling over five times gravity, making decisions. It is an absolute oven and it puts the body under unique mental and physical stresses. No other sport can replicate.

“Tennis, especially the men’s game now, has to be one of the most physically demanding sports in the world. Look at Djovokic in the Australian Open. He took 5 hours to beat Murray in the semi-finals then beat Nadal in six hours in the final 48 hours later. That’s 11 hours of competition in two days and yet it’s explosive, stop start. To manage the energy is a huge challenge.

Because of that, I’d say tennis players are fitter.”


You’ve worked over the last 15 years with Mark Webber, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Nico Hulkenberg and even briefly Jenson Button as well as some of the top tennis names. So what’s the sports clothing all about?
“I started producing items for my clients to train in and the feedback was fantastic. Whatever your fitness goal, when you push the body to the limit the clothing that you wear can have a big impact on your performance and recovery.

“Compression wear for example; when you are working aerobically the blood leaves the heart under pressure but returns under low pressure. So if we can increase the ability of the blood to return to the heart we can pick up more oxygen and it will go out as an energy source to regenerate muscle and reduce fatigue. Compression clothing is important to increase performance and recovery.”

HPE Clothing can be seen at Westfield, London and online at www.hpeclothing.com

We have one of Nick’s tops to give away as competition prizes. Simply predict what the gap will be in fractions of a second in qualifying between two of Nick’s former clients Jenson Button and Mark Webber in this weekend’s British Grand Prix and in whose favour. The closest to the exact result will win the prize.

Leave your answers in the comments section below.

Tennis players fitter than F1 drivers, says top driver trainer
217 Responses

  1.   1. Posted By: SH
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:25 pm 

    I don’t think you can look past AFL footballers, especially the midfielders. Four quarters of up to 30 minutes each, often in torrential rain or baking temperatures, with flights of up to 5 or 6 hours to get to some venues … and the same to go home again. And that’s after having eighteen other guys trying to jump on your head for the whole game.

    [Reply]

    efi Reply:

    please give me a break

    [Reply]

    Jonathan Reply:

    That just stupid AFL games are a walk in the park compared to driving a f1 car for 90 minutes . Just stupid

    [Reply]

    brandon Reply:

    I’ll admit I’m more familiar with NFL than AFL but NFL games actually involve very little gameplay. For example: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704281204575002852055561406.html

    WSJ NFL games have 11 minutes of action

    I would argue for hockey being tougher by a long shot.

    My guess is 0.134s

    [Reply]

    Justin Bieber Reply:

    “I would argue for hockey being tougher by a long shot.”

    You must be joking right?? The average hockey players have about 20min on the ice. Also during the playoff this year, a player went out and got drunk the night before a game and still played a decent game.

    Can you imagine Kimi getting drunk the night before a race? .. ok maybe that wasnt the best example, how about Vettle?

    I know you can get a severe beating when you play in the NHL but it has nothing to do with fitness.

    [Reply]

    brandon Reply:

    Obviously somebody named Bieber knows nothing about hockey. NHL players at the top level will see about 40-45 minutes of ice time per game on average, not including the possibility of multiple overtimes in playoffs, where the breaks between periods get even shorter so that the game can be finished quicker.

    Alex W Reply:

    Modern AFL players are gladiators, but watching the top Tennis guys, their fitness is unbeliveable.

    [Reply]

    Alex W Reply:

    Webber by 1.001

    [Reply]

    Just A View Reply:

    AFL players gladiators? I’m an Aussie but this comment is absurd. Almost as silly as the claim above that AFL players are fitter than tennis or F1 drivers because they fly 5 or 6 hours to a game.

    [Reply]

    Alex W Reply:

    I am no fan of AFL, I hate that it floods the papers in Aus, but I think you have never watched a good team play live, they are supremely fit, their GPS telemetry show that their energy levels are on par to many other track sports combined.

    Wade Parmino Reply:

    I think push bike riders in the Tour de France win the prize for being the fittest of any athlete in the world.

    [Reply]

    Martin Reply:

    A pretty reasonable argument given that for the Yellow jersey contenders, it is totally about fitness. If you are not the fittest you are unlikely to win. To be a top F1 driver or tennis player, you also have to have so many other skills. In cycling there is fitness and tactics, and the latter has a lot of input from the team.

    [Reply]

    azac21 Reply:

    Yes, I would think so too. In terms of physical fittness the cyclists should be top. When looking at both physical and mental fittness things get a bit complicated.

    I would say F1 drivers are the fittest. At the end of the day they dont just do a sport. They risk their lives on split second decisions at 200mph in 50C heat over 100mins. Beat that…

    [Reply]

    Thompson Reply:

    drivers fit…..lol.

    go back a few years, in fairness f1 drivers are pretty low on the ‘fitness’ ladder.
    Tennis players, footballers, boxers in fact f1 drivers probably come just above snooker players and darts.

    unless they do other stuff like Jenson, Webber who i think cycles their fitness is questionable.

    Luca Reply:

    +1

    0.455

    [Reply]

    Justin Bieber Reply:

    I would agree if it wasn’t for all those doping scandal..

    [Reply]

    Simple Reply:

    It’s been tested. Several years ago they did a fitness test between an afl player and an f1 driver in the lead up to the Melbourne gp. It was broadcast on tellie in Australia. Sadly my memory sucks and I can’t recall who was involved, but I think it was Trulli. The f1 driver won hands down.

    [Reply]

    Englebert Humperdink Reply:

    AFL? they run for 15 seconds then have a rest for 5 minutes. F1 drivers dont get a break for 1 second in 90 minutes (and at 5 times the g force and at 50 dgrees heat inside the suit). Oh and every sportperson flies for hours to get there.

    [Reply]


  2.   2. Posted By: John S
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:33 pm 

    I’m going to go with 0.42s between them with Webber ahead of Jenson.

    [Reply]


  3.   3. Posted By: Krishna Srinivasan
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:37 pm 

    Mark Webber would beat Jenson Button by 0.3 secs…

    [Reply]


  4.   4. Posted By: Simon
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:37 pm 

    Mark Webber by .327

    [Reply]


  5.   5. Posted By: S-D
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:45 pm 

    0.123s

    [Reply]


  6.   6. Posted By: Yasser AlMansour
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:47 pm 

    I’m predicting a 0.194 gap

    [Reply]


  7.   7. Posted By: Ben
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:49 pm 

    0.431 seconds.

    [Reply]


  8.   8. Posted By: Sebee
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:49 pm 

    “No matter how much I train to get better at Tennis, I will never be as good as a wall. It’s relentless!” Mitch Headberg, comedian.

    I think we can all agree that Tenis is nice, but it’s just not F1.

    [Reply]

    Sebee Reply:

    Also, may I just say, with Tour de France now on – maybe there is another sport that is just a bit more demanding on the competitors than Tenis. Especially when the riders hit those little “bumps” in the road tagged with every cyclist’s two favorite letters: HC

    [Reply]

    Tom in adelaide Reply:

    Pretty tough to take cycling seriously though isn’t it?

    [Reply]

    Alan H Reply:

    Why?

    tom in adelaide Reply:

    Alan – hmmm drug cheats in plague proportions perhaps?

    Sebee Reply:

    Don’t fool yourself into thinking that F1 drivers never got a testosterone boost here or there, or some other fitness enhancing drug. They can afford it, and not like WADA is shadowing F1 drivers. They’d be better of shadowing the defusers and aero kits on the unevenly matched cars.

    As for cyclist, let’s assume they are all doped up – still, three weeks of suffering in the saddle is not a walk in the park.

    anon Reply:

    And we sure know how cyclists cope with those ‘demands’…

    [Reply]

    Sebee Reply:

    There is not a professional athlete on this planet who does not go for an advantage when possible. They are money making machines asked to do exceptional things every day. They can’t do it on corn flakes and protein shakes.
    It’s naive to think that is what they do.

    As for Olympics, forgive they simplification – but beside those who dope, the Olympics is mostly a genetics competition in my view. Many of the sports can be compared to my favorite sports, like who’s tallest, who has the most disproportionate torso to lower body ratio, who had the largest feet, etc. Each of those give you an unfair advantage, like Phelps. And it’s too bad it’s not easy to get taller or grow bigger feet. But don’t worry, they are working on it with stretching machines. :-)


  9.   9. Posted By: Tom Richards
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:50 pm 

    I’d be intrigued to hear how an Olympic sprinter compares to both of the above – any ideas?

    Reckon Button will be around 0.700 ahead of Webber.

    [Reply]

    AuraF1 Reply:

    I am a sprinter. Fitness is exactly that – fitness to complete a discipline. A mountain climber is incredibly fit – to climb mountains. My body would not handle mountain climbing well as my bodyfat is too low and my muscle fibers are predominantly geared towards short explosive work, not endurance.

    I think it’s quite odd to even try and compare ‘fitness’ really. I’d easily floor any tennis player or F1 driver over 100m. I suspect over 90 minutes though I’d be embarrassed.

    Usain Bolt has struggled to run 5 miles in the past and needs constant massage attention to avoid injury. To use a car analogy 100m sprinters are drag racers, endurance athletes are more like rally cars.

    [Reply]

    tom in adelaide Reply:

    Very well put.

    [Reply]

    Kenny Carwash Reply:

    Fitness can be a very specific and quite strange thing, as different sports and activities can place unique demands on performers and then you have individual peculiarities of the performers stacked on top of that.

    At the peak of my rugby career, my 100m time was usually in the high 11s but I was unable to jog for more than a couple of km without stopping. That’s perhaps to be expected, but harder to explain is that at the same time I could swim or ride a road bike for as long as I wanted (I was horrible at long ascents, though). I also knew some high-level fencers who were phenomenally fit, but were competing with others who looked like they were going to a beer festival afterwards.

    It’s always a combination of what your sport requires of you and what you bring to the table. Some performers’ natural fitness is already well in line with what’s required of them, others have to put a lot more work in. I suspect that’s why Sebastian Vettel copes so well with the rigours of F1 despite appearing to have the body of a 13 year-old boy. It would be very interesting to see fitness test data of all the drivers.

    [Reply]


  10.   10. Posted By: christos pallis
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:57 pm 

    Gap 0.221 seconds Webber ahead of Button

    [Reply]


  11.   11. Posted By: Brandon Merrell
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 3:59 pm 

    Webber quicker than button by .768

    [Reply]


  12.   12. Posted By: Mark B.
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:00 pm 

    Mark Webber faster by 0.760 seconds.

    [Reply]


  13.   13. Posted By: Andrew Burley
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:00 pm 

    Webber fastest by 0.27 seconds

    [Reply]


  14.   14. Posted By: Biggles209
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:00 pm 

    0.127 sec

    [Reply]


  15.   15. Posted By: Tom
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:06 pm 

    Webber faster by 0.305s for me.

    [Reply]


  16.   16. Posted By: Eric
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:07 pm 

    I see Webber beating Button in qualifying by 0.247 seconds.

    (I’m a huge JB fan but those Red Bulls have alarming pace as of late.)

    [Reply]


  17.   17. Posted By: goferet
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:16 pm 

    Hmm… I think Nick Harris could have tripped over his own words.

    First he notes that over 90 minutes, there isn’t a sport as demanding as F1 then at the end of it all says tennis players are fitter —> This can’t be right.

    If he deprives this conclusion because of the amount of time tennis players spend on court (in between numerous breaks) then I can confidently say he’s totally off the mark.

    First off, if tennis players were really fitter then we would have lots of femmes slagging it out with the fellas, or at least he would have a women’s only F1 championship, yes or no?

    Secondly due to F1′s demanding nature to the body & mainly the mind, you have a scenario were it has the cut of time of 90 minutes whereas tennis, they can play till the cows get home and then continue the following day.

    Thirdly, if tennis players were fitter, they wouldn’t always be suffering from cramps and the like, I for one, am yet to see an F1 driver pull over on the side of the track due issues with his muscles.

    In my book, F1 drivers are more fitter than tennis players and the only athletes I consider fitter than F1 drivers include;

    1) Middle and heavy weight boxers
    2) Weight lifters
    3) Marathon/Triathlon athletes
    4) Professional cyclists
    5) Footballers

    Because in the above, if you aren’t physically fit, you will most certainly fail whereas with tennis, you can certainly cope with talent alone.

    [Reply]

    DonSimon Reply:

    ‘More fitter’ is enough to make me disregard this comment. I suspect this guy knows a bit more about the issues than yourself. I’ll take his word for it.

    [Reply]

    Sebee Reply:

    My 3 year old says: I amn’t. Which seems perfectly logical after a pint or two.

    [Reply]

    Bash Reply:

    I think you’re right on the mark. Though the combination of mental concentration, accuracy and fitness is probably highest in an F1 driver, in terms of pure fitness I can’t argue with your list above.

    I’d add the various special forces regiments from the UK, US etc. Their physical fitness requirements are utterly abnormal, to the point of nearly fatal in some cases.

    [Reply]

    Lawrence Reply:

    Footballers fitter than F1 drivers. Haha. I’m going to go for cross-country skiers and triatheletes. Safe bet ;)

    [Reply]

    rgvkiwi Reply:

    Top level motocross riders…?

    jonnyd Reply:

    you’re way off the mark really.
    you don’t see f1 drivers pulling over with cramp….because its not as physically demanding.

    the act of running alone, and running about constantly, is more demanding than sitting.
    yes they are rotating a steering wheel, but it has power steering.
    the most physically demanding aspect in f1 would be having to stamp on that brake pedal continously.

    ultimately though, they are still in a sat position, and they have periods of time where they are resting, on a lap, on straights.

    tennis is stop/start with short stop intervals and you’re literally working every part of your body.

    its very easy to see why you’d have to be fitter to be a pro tennis player than an f1 driver, frankly.

    especially nowadays, where the drivers aren’t having to push, like in the refuelling days, and not doing qualifying sprints for an entire race anymore.

    [Reply]

    Alan H Reply:

    But they’re not actually ‘sat’ are they?

    I’ve tried sitting the way modern F1 drivers sit, with feet almost at at head height, and it’s not comfortable, especially in the posterior! (no padding in a racing seat).

    [Reply]

    John M Reply:

    I think you seriously underestimate the effect of G forces on the body. It takes a lot of strength and endurance to cope with those Gs over a 90 minute race.

    Ever gone karting? If not, then give it a try and then tell me the body doesn’t get a workout from racing.

    [Reply]


  18.   18. Posted By: madmax
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:17 pm 

    Webber by 0.222

    Red Bull looked very quick Valencia and Silverstone is a good Webber track.

    [Reply]


  19.   19. Posted By: mitchell
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:19 pm 

    Webber faster by .467

    [Reply]


  20.   20. Posted By: Marek
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:19 pm 

    Webber by 0.205 s

    [Reply]


  21.   21. Posted By: mattoz
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:21 pm 

    Webber by 0.352

    [Reply]


  22.   22. Posted By: Tom21
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:24 pm 

    Webber by 0.897 over Jenson.

    [Reply]


  23.   23. Posted By: Gord
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:24 pm 

    Webber faster by 0.450 seconds.

    [Reply]


  24.   24. Posted By: sam w
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:24 pm 

    webber by 0.400 seconds

    [Reply]


  25.   25. Posted By: Charlie
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:25 pm 

    Webber ahead of Button by 0.836s.

    [Reply]


  26.   26. Posted By: Mike
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:26 pm 

    Webber faster by 0.291 sec

    [Reply]


  27.   27. Posted By: Casey
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:34 pm 

    Button by .220

    [Reply]


  28.   28. Posted By: Graham
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:39 pm 

    Webber over JB by 0.249s

    G

    [Reply]


  29.   29. Posted By: Chris
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:45 pm 

    Webber by 0.516

    [Reply]


  30.   30. Posted By: Jonathan Dye
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:47 pm 

    Im a huge JB fan but what happens if JB goes out in Q2 and MW goes on to the top 10 shootout?

    Assuming they both make top 10 (and there is a definite ‘if’ with JB’s current form) then Webber will be ahead by 0.987

    It pains me to say it and I hope I am wrong and Jenson can rediscover his form from the first few races.

    COME ON JENSON!!!!

    [Reply]


  31.   31. Posted By: TJS
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:47 pm 

    webber faster by 1.000

    [Reply]


  32.   32. Posted By: **Paul**
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:48 pm 

    Webber faster by 0.650

    [Reply]


  33.   33. Posted By: pierre
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:57 pm 

    I would like to try this piece of gear.

    Webber ahead of Button by 0.666 s

    [Reply]


  34.   34. Posted By: Julian
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:58 pm 

    Mark Webber by 0.119s

    [Reply]


  35.   35. Posted By: Daniel MA
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 4:59 pm 

    Button by 0.150

    [Reply]


  36.   36. Posted By: Daffid
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 5:05 pm 

    Tennis players fitter than F1 drivers?
    In other news: Pope admits Catholicism, and bear seen carrying Andrex into the woods.

    [Reply]


  37.   37. Posted By: Stephen green
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 5:06 pm 

    Button by 0.101 sec

    [Reply]


  38.   38. Posted By: Andy Smith
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 5:08 pm 

    I recon Webber ahead by 0.810.

    [Reply]


  39.   39. Posted By: Andreas Myrberg
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 5:10 pm 

    Webber faster then Jenson by 1.285 sec

    [Reply]


  40.   40. Posted By: Shervin
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 5:28 pm 

    Webber faster by 0.530

    [Reply]


  41.   41. Posted By: Rob Newman
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 5:28 pm 

    Comparing F1 drivers with tennis players are like comparing apples and oranges.

    Webber faster by 705 seconds.

    [Reply]


  42.   42. Posted By: For sure
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 5:30 pm 

    Well, what about boxers? It’s like you run a marathon and get punch in the face every meter.
    If you look at what boxers do in training, it does look more impressive for untrained eyes.

    [Reply]


  43.   43. Posted By: franed
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 5:34 pm 

    I could not help thinking during the Queen’s Jubilee flotilla thingy that some of the boat had been rowed from 6 in the morning to mid afternoon almost no stop in fact I think some were rowing for 11 hour in all. Of course this is put in the shade by mad people rowing across oceans.
    There must be a formula somewhere. Involving time, work, g-force and temperature.

    Then look at polar explorers who loose half their body weight pulling sledges for weeks at a time.

    All in all a very difficult comparison.

    [Reply]


  44.   44. Posted By: Dan
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 5:44 pm 

    0.342s

    [Reply]


  45.   45. Posted By: Rob G
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 5:54 pm 

    Webber by 0.611s

    [Reply]


  46.   46. Posted By: Ollie Holland
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 6:06 pm 

    Webber by 0.486.

    [Reply]


  47.   47. Posted By: ArJay
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 6:11 pm 

    Webber by 1.29s

    ‘…I’d say tennis players are fitter…’
    Maybe an expert’s opinion but it would have more credence if couched in scientific, objective terms and backed up with hard data.

    [Reply]


  48.   48. Posted By: Kevin H
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 6:16 pm 

    0.155 seconds. With JB in front!!!

    [Reply]


  49.   49. Posted By: Vikram Muthyam
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 6:20 pm 

    Mark Webber by 0.424s

    [Reply]


  50.   50. Posted By: Misty
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 6:28 pm 

    Webber by 0.238

    [Reply]


  51.   51. Posted By: mark
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 6:29 pm 

    I am completely 100% sure Webber will be exactly 0.159s faster (±1s in the dry or ±4s if it is wet)

    [Reply]


  52.   52. Posted By: Rich
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 6:33 pm 

    I reckon Mark might put it on pole. 0.763s the gap.

    [Reply]


  53.   53. Posted By: David T
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 6:34 pm 

    Button quicker than Webber by 0.150

    [Reply]


  54.   54. Posted By: Adrian
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 6:56 pm 

    Webber ahead by 0.453 – if they both make it to Q3

    [Reply]


  55.   55. Posted By: Jose
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:00 pm 

    Webber quicker by 0.313s.

    [Reply]


  56.   56. Posted By: Brad C
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:02 pm 

    Webber by 0.644

    [Reply]


  57.   57. Posted By: Shivanshu
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:06 pm 

    I’d go with Mark being .550 seconds ahead of Jenson.

    [Reply]


  58.   58. Posted By: roiboi
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:08 pm 

    button 0.231

    [Reply]


  59.   59. Posted By: phil
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:24 pm 

    Well this is all very subjective as there’s no one metric for fitness. When I was at school I think there were 4 or 5 components but I read that scientists now consider there to be nine! That’s confused further still if you when you throw in mental aspect of driving at 200mph and try and compare that with mental aspect of, say, avoiding being battered in a boxing ring.

    Fortunately this “argument” created one of the greatest sports, triathlon and more so iron-man, as key protagonists discussed who was fitter, runners, cyclists or swimmers. Not sure we got an answer then!

    so, one has to say this is a rather thinly veiled excuse to get some coverage and advertise the new clothing line than a serious story.

    nice looking threads btw

    [Reply]

    phil Reply:

    for the comp, Webber to make Q3, Button to hit the lofty heights of 12th and miss out.

    [Reply]

    phil Reply:

    wonder how you are going to work this out James. Button 18th and out in Q1!!!!

    [Reply]


  60.   60. Posted By: Matt
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:27 pm 

    Webber .757 ahead of Button

    [Reply]


  61.   61. Posted By: Jonathan De Andrade
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:31 pm 

    Webber quicker by 0.326

    [Reply]


  62.   62. Posted By: Christian Horner
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:33 pm 

    Webber by 0.302

    [Reply]


  63.   63. Posted By: Ashish Sharma
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:39 pm 

    Button will not make it to Q3. In q2 Webber will be 0.8 seconds faster

    [Reply]


  64.   64. Posted By: Steve
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:51 pm 

    Webber ahead by 0.138 sec

    [Reply]


  65.   65. Posted By: Enigma
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 7:52 pm 

    Webber by 0.801

    [Reply]


  66.   66. Posted By: Richard Dre
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 8:12 pm 

    Webber by 0.876

    [Reply]


  67.   67. Posted By: Skansub
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 8:20 pm 

    Webber > Button by 0.235 seconds

    [Reply]


  68.   68. Posted By: Wes
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 8:24 pm 

    Webber by 0.497

    [Reply]


  69.   69. Posted By: Steve bould
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 8:35 pm 

    Webber quicker by .0466 seconds. Jenson just not in the groove at the moment

    [Reply]


  70.   70. Posted By: TATO
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 8:37 pm 

    I think it will be .360 sec.

    [Reply]

    TATO Reply:

    In favor of Mark Webber.

    [Reply]


  71.   71. Posted By: Marcus Lindblom
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 8:37 pm 

    Button up on Webber with .163 sec.

    [Reply]


  72.   72. Posted By: Paul du Maître
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 8:38 pm 

    Vote of confidence for Button: 0.15 secs ahead of Webber

    [Reply]


  73.   73. Posted By: efi
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 8:50 pm 

    webber by .316

    [Reply]


  74.   74. Posted By: DB
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 9:08 pm 

    Webber 1.327 ahead. In Q2. Sorry Button. Hope I’m wrong.

    [Reply]


  75.   75. Posted By: Gavin28
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 9:13 pm 

    Webber by 0.18 seconds

    [Reply]


  76.   76. Posted By: CartRider
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 9:16 pm 

    0.127 in Mark’s favor

    [Reply]


  77.   77. Posted By: Christopher Conover
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 9:19 pm 

    Button over Webber by .082 It is Button’s home race after all.

    [Reply]


  78.   78. Posted By: crespo
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 9:35 pm 

    Webber ahead of Button by .420

    [Reply]


  79.   79. Posted By: Lawrence
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 9:56 pm 

    For the comp – a nice big fat half a second (0.5 sec).

    [Reply]


  80.   80. Posted By: tony cirillo
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 10:06 pm 

    webber by 0.506

    [Reply]


  81.   81. Posted By: pking008
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 10:16 pm 

    Webbo over JB by 0.221s

    [Reply]


  82.   82. Posted By: Matthew
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 10:30 pm 

    Mark Webber to beat JB by 0.413 seconds.

    [Reply]


  83.   83. Posted By: Mike
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 10:49 pm 

    Button ahead of Webber by 0.14

    [Reply]


  84.   84. Posted By: Edouard Valentino
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 11:02 pm 

    Webber faster than Button by .164s

    [Reply]


  85.   85. Posted By: Andy V
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 11:11 pm 

    Webber by 0.484 seconds

    [Reply]


  86.   86. Posted By: Mike J
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 11:18 pm 

    Gap will be 0.412 sec (webber on top) for a Q3 comparison

    [Reply]


  87.   87. Posted By: Mark
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 11:26 pm 

    Webber by 0.19

    [Reply]


  88.   88. Posted By: JeanHenry
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 11:29 pm 

    I’m going for Button by .127

    [Reply]


  89.   89. Posted By: Monktonnik
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 11:38 pm 

    Webber faster than Button by 0.319 secs

    [Reply]


  90.   90. Posted By: TATO
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 11:45 pm 

    I guess will be .360 sec.

    [Reply]


  91.   91. Posted By: Luke Clements
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 11:54 pm 

    Let’s go crazy…Webber by 1.194 sec

    [Reply]


  92.   92. Posted By: John tsoutis
        Date: July 3rd, 2012 @ 11:58 pm 

    Cummon Webber, by 0.197 seconds

    [Reply]


  93.   93. Posted By: Damian
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:03 am 

    Webber by 0.248

    [Reply]


  94.   94. Posted By: John tsoutis
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:09 am 

    With the whole fitness thing, I don’t think you can compare unless you put all athletes against each other in a similar event. There was such an event in Australia, they did the “Australia’s fittest athlete” challenge on tv. There were v8 racing drivers going against soccer (football), rugby league, AFL, athletics. I was impressed to see the V8 racers such as Craig Lowndes perform extremely well, winning in some of the disciplines proving that racing drivers are indeed fit compared to their disciplines. Athletes train specifically for what their discipline needs, be that explosive movement (sprinters, tennis), strength and stamina ( rugby and afl), hand eye coordination (ok pretty much everything except maybe triathlon). The racing drivers were consistently well positioned in the different challenges, I don’t think they took it out overall, but we’re ranked very high in the end.

    [Reply]

    Horoldo Reply:

    Rugby League has taken it the last couple of years. Billy Slater. I’d pitch him against any F1 or Tennis Player in this type competition.
    Just wish he didn’t play so well for QLD.

    [Reply]


  95.   95. Posted By: alexbookoo
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:23 am 

    Webber faster by 0.702 seconds

    [Reply]


  96.   96. Posted By: Adam
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:23 am 

    Webbo by .812 seconds

    [Reply]


  97.   97. Posted By: Jaco Pretorius
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:35 am 

    I say Webber over Button by 0.874

    [Reply]


  98.   98. Posted By: martin g
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:50 am 

    How did guys like James Hunt and Keke Rosberg used to win world championships whilst they smoked cigys all day and partied all night? I guess things must have changed a bit. Did proffessional tennis players used to behave that way in the 70′s and 80′s?

    [Reply]


  99.   99. Posted By: Jamie Cottage
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:51 am 

    0.364

    [Reply]


  100.   100. Posted By: Dan G
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:57 am 

    Webber by 0.4s

    [Reply]


  101.   101. Posted By: James Leaver
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:59 am 

    Great competition! I’m going to guess Button is 0.353 quicker than Webber.

    [Reply]


  102.   102. Posted By: Snowy
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 2:28 am 

    Webber ahead of Button by 0.474 sec

    [Reply]


  103.   103. Posted By: Paul Solomons
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 3:00 am 

    Rafael Nadal stops playing when it rains.
    Michael Schumacher starts playing when it rains.

    Webber by 0.087

    [Reply]


  104.   104. Posted By: RV
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 3:02 am 

    Webber by .436

    [Reply]


  105.   105. Posted By: Jonathan
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 3:03 am 

    Button faster by .345

    [Reply]


  106.   106. Posted By: Cesar
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 3:30 am 

    Hi James.

    0.123 with Jenson faster.

    Cesar

    [Reply]


  107.   107. Posted By: Azli
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 3:33 am 

    I’m gonna go for Jenson by 0.129 secs :)

    [Reply]


  108.   108. Posted By: Horoldo
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 4:55 am 

    Webber by .232

    [Reply]


  109.   109. Posted By: granddad
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 6:04 am 

    jenson by .222 over weber

    [Reply]


  110.   110. Posted By: Axel
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 6:51 am 

    Webber ahead of Jenson by 0.380

    [Reply]


  111.   111. Posted By: PH
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 7:08 am 

    Mark by 0.638

    [Reply]


  112.   112. Posted By: Ron
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 7:33 am 

    1.499

    [Reply]

    James Allen Reply:

    Who’s ahead?

    [Reply]


  113.   113. Posted By: oak
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 7:48 am 

    webber ahead by 0.466

    [Reply]


  114.   114. Posted By: Trenton
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 8:05 am 

    Webber by .243 seconds

    [Reply]


  115.   115. Posted By: Carl Sheen
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 8:24 am 

    Webber by 0.674

    [Reply]


  116.   116. Posted By: Allwyn
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 8:32 am 

    Button beating webber by .314s

    [Reply]


  117.   117. Posted By: Pete
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 8:47 am 

    Webber ahead by 0.385

    [Reply]


  118.   118. Posted By: CR
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 9:14 am 

    Webber by .176

    [Reply]


  119.   119. Posted By: RDS Motorsport
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 10:04 am 

    Webber ahead by 0.032

    [Reply]


  120.   120. Posted By: Darren
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 10:52 am 

    Webber by 0.648

    [Reply]


  121.   121. Posted By: Holly
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 10:55 am 

    Not sure how fit are F1 drivers, but if you check Alonsos twitter everyday, he does a huge amount of training.

    [Reply]


  122.   122. Posted By: Joseph
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 10:59 am 

    Tennis is great and all but let me ask you one question. Can tennis rev to 18000 RPM? I rest my case

    [Reply]


  123.   123. Posted By: Lachlan Mackinnon
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 11:14 am 

    Webber ahead by 0.672s

    [Reply]


  124.   124. Posted By: Vaughan Morris
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 11:23 am 

    Webber by 0.267 :)

    [Reply]


  125.   125. Posted By: azac21
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 11:36 am 

    MW on top,
    0.150secs faster than JB

    [Reply]


  126.   126. Posted By: Tom Bray
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 11:49 am 

    Webber ahead by 0.234

    [Reply]


  127.   127. Posted By: Jason
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 11:54 am 

    Button 0.234 ahead of Webber

    [Reply]


  128.   128. Posted By: Rich C
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 11:59 am 

    Button by a tenth of a sec.

    [Reply]


  129.   129. Posted By: Charlie B
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:03 pm 

    Although the tennis matches can last 5-6 hours, and yes I do remember Isner vs Mahut, they are not active for all of that time. There are breaks between every point, every failed serve, it all adds up.

    Anyway, Webber to beat Jenson by 0.543 seconds

    [Reply]


  130.   130. Posted By: John
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:06 pm 

    Webber by 0.250 seconds.

    [Reply]


  131.   131. Posted By: Chapor
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:11 pm 

    Webber beats Button by 0.375s

    [Reply]


  132.   132. Posted By: thejudge13
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:14 pm 

    Button by 0.194

    [Reply]


  133.   133. Posted By: Prakash
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:24 pm 

    JB ahead by 0.165

    [Reply]


  134.   134. Posted By: Yos
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:44 pm 

    Webber ahead of button by 0.57secs

    [Reply]


  135.   135. Posted By: chris severun
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:53 pm 

    Button by 0.079

    [Reply]


  136.   136. Posted By: Nadeem
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:54 pm 

    Webber by 0.432

    [Reply]


  137.   137. Posted By: James Bond
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:54 pm 

    Button faster 0.255

    [Reply]


  138.   138. Posted By: John Snow
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 12:57 pm 

    I think 0.271

    [Reply]


  139.   139. Posted By: Henry O
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:00 pm 

    Webber by 0.241

    [Reply]


  140.   140. Posted By: Paul J
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:20 pm 

    Webber ahead of button by 0.341seconds

    [Reply]


  141.   141. Posted By: Rizal Ismail
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:27 pm 

    Ha, you are all wrong…

    John Cena is the fittest of them all…

    In one year, 290 days working, on tour… wrestling and fighting…. Unexplainable rules…:-)

    [Reply]


  142.   142. Posted By: Neal
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:36 pm 

    Webber over Button by 1.03secs – possibly due to McLaren gaff pit stop not letting Jens put a final time in :)

    [Reply]


  143.   143. Posted By: Racyboy
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 1:40 pm 

    Webber by 0.009

    someone had to squeeze it up a bit.

    [Reply]


  144.   144. Posted By: Daniel B
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 2:21 pm 

    Webber by 0.132

    [Reply]


  145.   145. Posted By: Adrian Setterfield
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 2:52 pm 

    Webber ahead by .505 seconds

    [Reply]


  146.   146. Posted By: Dimitris
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 2:52 pm 

    Button by 0.311 seconds.

    Thanks!

    [Reply]


  147.   147. Posted By: my tuppence
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 3:27 pm 

    Webber, by 0.748s

    [Reply]


  148.   148. Posted By: Cass
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 3:35 pm 

    webber beats JB by 0.332

    [Reply]


  149.   149. Posted By: Jake
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 3:51 pm 

    Webber > Button by 0.562

    [Reply]


  150.   150. Posted By: john g
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 3:57 pm 

    is this only in Q3? as i predict they won’t both get through…!!

    however, in the highest session that they both enter, webber ahead by 0.331s

    [Reply]


  151.   151. Posted By: Roberto F
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 4:23 pm 

    I’m a Red Bull fan, but since it will be raining I have to go that Button is .456 faster than webber in Q2, Webber wont make it to Q3

    [Reply]


  152.   152. Posted By: Spinodontosaurus
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 4:24 pm 

    Webber over Button by 0.493

    [Reply]


  153.   153. Posted By: furniture
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 6:11 pm 

    Webber by 0.909

    [Reply]


  154.   154. Posted By: Mark Taylor
        Date: July 4th, 2012 @ 8:23 pm 

    Webber by 0.666 sec.

    [Reply]


  155.   155. Posted By: Yasin
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 1:28 am 

    Button by 0.165s

    [Reply]


  156.   156. Posted By: Mitch
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 5:19 am 

    equal times

    [Reply]


  157.   157. Posted By: Chris
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 6:44 am 

    I’ll go .582 In Webbers favour

    [Reply]


  158.   158. Posted By: Petra
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 9:17 am 

    Mark will be faster than Jenson. 0.824

    [Reply]


  159.   159. Posted By: muneeb
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 10:03 am 

    Webber by 0.256

    [Reply]


  160.   160. Posted By: Bart
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 11:38 am 

    webber by 0.511s

    [Reply]


  161.   161. Posted By: oleoe
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 1:08 pm 

    webber by 0,472

    [Reply]


  162.   162. Posted By: DK
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 1:09 pm 

    Webber ahead by 0.365 sec.

    [Reply]


  163.   163. Posted By: Jimbob
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 1:17 pm 

    Button by 0.324

    [Reply]


  164.   164. Posted By: Jimmy E
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 1:30 pm 

    Webber by 0.465

    [Reply]


  165.   165. Posted By: Anand Murthy
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 2:51 pm 

    Webber +0.161

    [Reply]


  166.   166. Posted By: paxdog57
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 2:55 pm 

    webber by 0.92 seconds

    [Reply]


  167.   167. Posted By: Craig Baker
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 3:14 pm 

    Button is .007

    [Reply]


  168.   168. Posted By: Alex Rushen
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 5:39 pm 

    Webber by 0.370

    [Reply]


  169.   169. Posted By: Slaven Niksic
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 6:34 pm 

    webber ahead of button by 0.565

    [Reply]


  170.   170. Posted By: Ali
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 7:06 pm 

    I reckon there will be a 0.323 second gap :)

    [Reply]


  171.   171. Posted By: James
        Date: July 5th, 2012 @ 11:50 pm 

    Webber ahead of Button by 0.384

    [Reply]


  172.   172. Posted By: Ahmed`
        Date: July 6th, 2012 @ 1:33 am 

    Webber by 0.387

    [Reply]


  173.   173. Posted By: The Crappest
        Date: July 6th, 2012 @ 2:59 am 

    Webber by 0.555

    [Reply]


  174.   174. Posted By: Spider
        Date: July 6th, 2012 @ 2:55 pm 

    Webber by .837

    [Reply]


  175.   175. Posted By: futureshock999
        Date: July 6th, 2012 @ 8:26 pm 

    Great thread. As a former competitive cyclist, I want to respond to the “doping” comments above. Cyclists “dope” not to stop the pain, but to put their bodies into performance levels that are impossible to achieve naturally. Genetically you just can’t HAVE that many red blood cells in your body, because it causes strokes and heart attacks – so lower levels have become “safer” by natural selection. But for cyclists (some of whom do die from the above) it is worth it to win, or so they think – never done it myself as I was an amateur. But cyclist literally have been known to ride until they die of cardiac arrest in competition, which as far as I know no AFLer, fencer, or tennis player has done. My money is on the cyclists, followed closely by cross-country skiers (who cross-train as cyclists often).

    Button over Webber, by 0.08. Only because Webber will have KERS or other issues on at least part of the lap…

    [Reply]


  176.   176. Posted By: Howie GT
        Date: July 6th, 2012 @ 9:18 pm 

    Button by 0.080 seconds

    [Reply]


  177.   177. Posted By: elliptical trainer
        Date: July 23rd, 2012 @ 9:38 am 

    Its like you read my thoughts! You appear to grasp a lot about this, such as you wrote the ebook in it or something. I think that you could do with a few p.c. to drive the message house a bit, however other than that, this is fantastic blog. An excellent read. I will definitely be back.

    [Reply]

Leave a Reply





COUNTDOWN TO NEXT RACE
Strategy Report
Innovation and Technology brought to you by TATA Communications
Senna DVD
Download the Chequered Flag Podcast here
MTS
Darren Heath
Sport Right Now