How the F1 teams will approach the German Grand Prix at Hockenheim
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Posted By: James Allen  |  17 Jul 2012   |  9:29 am GMT  |  88 comments

Hockenheim alternates as host of the German GP with Nurburgring and the last event in 2010 was famous for Ferrari’s notorious team order, “Fernando is faster than you” to Felipe Massa.

This should be an interesting race from a strategic point of view as Pirelli has never raced in F1 at the new Hockenheim and so the teams will be working hard during the practice sessions to figure out the best strategy for the weekend. The temperature will be critical to the outcome.

The shorter Hockenheim track was inaugurated in 2002 and is well known to the F1 teams, but the last time the race was held there, it proved quite tough on the Bridgestone tyres and it is expected to be the same this year.

It is a short lap at Hockenheim, the cars come around every 73 seconds or so. The first part of the lap has two long straights and only two corners and it is notoriously difficult to warm the tyres up on a cool day.

Pirelli is bringing its soft and medium tyre compounds to the race this year, the sixth time this combination has been seen in ten races so far this season. The last occasion was Valencia.

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Track characteristics

Hockenheim – 4.574 kilometres. Race distance – 67 laps = 306.458 kilometres. 17 corners in total. A shortened version of the classic Hockenheim track, the circuit has a mixture of all types of corners.

Aerodynamic setup – Med/High downforce. Top speed 326km/h (with Drag Reduction System active on rear wing) – 312km/h without.

Full throttle – 65% of the lap (medium). Total fuel needed for race distance – 150 kilos (average/high). Fuel consumption – 2.33kg per lap (ave)

Time spent braking: 15% of lap. 7 braking zones. Brake wear- Heavy.

Loss time for a Pit stop = 12.8 seconds
Total time needed for pit stop: 16.8 seconds.

Fuel effect (cost in lap time per 10kg of fuel carried): 0.31 seconds (ave)

Form Guide

The German Grand Prix is the tenth round of the 2012 FIA F1 World Championship. It has been a very open championship so far with seven different race winners in nine races. Only Fernando Alonso and Mark Webber have won twice and they are the leading championship contenders.

Red Bull and Ferrari are the two form teams at the moment. McLaren dropped back in the last two races and are in need of an upgrade, while Lotus has been threatening to win a race, but lacks the qualifying pace to get control of a race from the start.

As far as drivers’ form is concerned; Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton have won the German Grand Prix twice, Mark Webber has won it once and Michael Schumacher has won it four times.

Weather Forecast

The German Grand Prix at Hockenheim is often held in warm conditions, although there have been some wet races too. This year’s forecast is for warm weather, in the mid to high 20s, but some thunderstorms are possible.


Likely tyre performance and other considerations

Pirelli tyre choice for Hockenheim: Soft (yellow markings) and Medium (white markings). This is a similar combination to what we saw in the first four races of the season and again at Valencia.

If it is hot the tyres will suffer at Hockenheim with thermal degradation, which means that they have a sudden drop off in performance beyond a certain point, usually when they are around 70% worn. It has several slow corners and the acceleration out of these causes longitudinal sliding, while some of the medium and higher speed corners put a lot of energy into the tyres and increase the degradation.

It’s important to prepare and warm up the tyres properly for a qualifying lap and it’s tricky to do that on the first part of the lap, which has few corners and it’s easy to get understeer.

Our tyre model based on the previous races where soft and medium were used, indicates that the medium tyre could be the preferred race tyre with two stints on new medium tyres following an opening stint on used softs for the leading cars.


Number and likely timing of pit stops

It is likely to be a two or three stop race, depending on the temperature. If the temperatures are high (35 degrees or more of track temperature) then the tyre degradation could be severe, as it was in Bahrain on these tyre compounds. That race was a three stopper, but some teams like Lotus and Sauber, which are more gentle on tyres, might manage to do one less stop in that scenario.

It’s likely that we will see soft/medium/medium as the preferred strategy with the first stops around lap 15 to 17, opening up a window for a two stop race.

Chance of a safety car

Since the new Hockenheim track was opened in 2002 there have been two safety cars in seven Grands Prix.

There was a safety car in 2004 for a crash at the start, another in 2008 due to an accident.


Recent start performance

The start of the Grand Prix is absolutely vital in terms of executing the ideal race strategy. A few places gained means a team has more options, while a few places lost usually means switching to Plan B and being more aggressive to make up ground.

As far as 2012 start performance is concerned drivers have gained (+) or lost (-) places off the start line this season, on aggregate, as follows –

Gained:

+27 Massa
+19 Glock,
+17 Alonso
+16 Kovalainen
+15 Perez***
+14 Senna
+13 Vergne
+11 Raikkonen, Kobayashi****
+10 Maldonado****, Pic
+6 Di Resta *****, Karthikeyan
+5 Schumacher*, Hamilton,
+ 1 Vettel

Held position: Button

Lost:
-1 Hulkenberg , De la Rosa ****,
-2 Petrov*****
-3 Grosjean** ****
-5 Webber
-8 Rosberg
-18 Ricciardo*

* Senna, Ricciardo and Hulkenberg were all involved in accidents on 1st lap in Australia
** Schumacher and Grosjean collided on Lap 1 in Malaysia, Senna and Perez pitted for wet tyres on opening lap
***Perez punctured on lap 1 in Spain and went to back of field
**** Eliminated by or involved in first lap accident in Monaco
***** Di Resta eliminated lap 1 at Silverstone, Petrov did not start

(This is an aggregate figure – intended for guide purposes only – for places gained off the line, less places lost. Anomalies like first corner eliminations are not included)

Pit Stop League Table
Of course good strategy planning also requires good pit stop execution by the mechanics and we have seen tyre stops carried out in less than two and a half seconds by F1 teams.

It is clear that the field has significantly closed up in pit stops.

The league table below shows the order of the pit crews based on their fastest time in the British Grand Prix, from the car entering the pit lane to leaving it. The positions from previous race are in brackets.

Worth noting is that McLaren has been working on its pit stops and they now have the fastest stops of all the teams, by some margin. Also Marussia’s sixth place in the table is significantly higher than their position in the championship.

1. McLaren 2.6 secs (1)
2. Ferrari 3.2s (2)
3. Red Bull 3.2s (3)
4. Mercedes 3.2s (4)
5. Sauber 3.2s (8)
6. Marussia 3.3s (11)
7. Lotus 3.4s (6)
8. Force India 3.5s (5)
9. Toro Rosso 3.7s (9)
10. Williams 3.7s (10)
11. Caterham 4.2s (7)
12. HRT 6.8s (12)

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The UBS Race Strategy Briefing is written by James Allen with input and data from several F1 team strategists and from Pirelli

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  1. Elie says:

    Okay I will go out on a limb here and say Kimi Raikkonen will win his first race back . Hokenhiem with its two long straights should suit the Lotus top end. If the track temp is 35deg it should suit their long game and maybe they can squeeze a two stop strategy. It’s been a voodoo track for him in the past – buy second time round should be a charm. I expect the Mclarens to be back with a vengeance but wether or not they can handle the heat remains to be seen.

    1. goferet says:

      @ Elie

      Okay I will go out on a limb here and say Kimi Raikkonen will win his first race back .
      ————————————————–

      Hopefully you won’t lose your limb for backing Kimi (a driver that has retired at Hockenheim 5 times & Nurburgring once) is very risky indeed.

      Bad luck aside, from my observations, Kimi looks to me like a confidence driver i.e. If results do not go his way, his head drops & the motivation evaporates which ultimately leads to quitting the sport.

      I believe this is what happened to him in the World Rally Championship.

      1. Elie says:

        Nah.. He just got bored.. [mod]
        I completely disagree that he’s just a confidence driver- when he was at Mclaren his car was unreliable and he just kept coming out and performing(reliability would have seen him win2002-5) He was set on fire in the pits and he just kept on racing. He is without a doubt one of the most determined drivers I have ever seen.
        Don’t forget he was in f1 9 years and experienced more BS than most drivers do (as well as much succes!). He seems fresh and determined as ever this season

      2. MISTER says:

        He doesn’t look like that to me. He seems very down in the interviews, almost annoyed.
        Maybe that’s how his fresh and determined attitude looks like..

      3. hero_was_senna says:

        2002 to 2005?
        You may want to review those seasons again.
        2002 and 2004 were completely dominated by Ferrari. He wouldn’t have stood a chance.
        2004, especially, Mclaren began with the MP4/19, a truly terrible car. Only a massive update culminating in the MP4/19B allowed a win.

        Regarding reliability, it’s the same for all drivers and teams, ” to finish first, first you must finish!”

      4. Lisa Thomas says:

        Totally with you on this one Elie.
        {would be nice if people were familiar with the facts before forming an opinion!}

      5. Elie says:

        My points were only addressing the “confidence driver ” rubbish . In 2003 & 5 he was a genuine contender. Your probably right about 03/04 but then no one else other than Ferrari had special tyres all that time any way. My point about reliability was more the point of Kimi having to endure a break down every second race or faults of some kind for a few seasons no one doubts races are won – he still won races during this period when better cars werent! !again my point is addressing this confidence driver crap- nothing else

      6. Elie says:

        Sorry 02/04. & no one doubts how races are won depends on reliability etc (smartphone posts between things)

    2. Martin says:

      A reasonable call. I could argue that the going out on a limb bit is picking Kimi over Romain, assuming Romain can survice the first two laps.

      I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lotus do two lap runs in Q2 for tyre temperature. Q3 is too short for that for two runs, so that put a heavy reliance on the DRS zone being long enough.

      Cheers,
      Martin

      1. Bradley says:

        Romain has the 5 place grid penalty for a new gearbox…

    3. Rishi says:

      A first attempt at commenting didn’t go through yesterday but think you’re right to pinpoint high track temperature as being important for Lotus and Raikkonen. If it’s hot, they will probably look to target front two rows and that’d put him in with a good chance.

      Aye he’s not had a great run at Hockenheim. In 2005 he was cruising but I particularly remember 2004; he (in the updated MP4-19B) and Michael Schumacher were locked in an intriguing battle for the lead when a rear-wing failure pitched him off the track at Turn 1 (Nordkurve). Thankfully Kimi was OK but it prompted a rare outburst from him when, if memory serves correct, he threw his helmet across the McLaren pit garage in disgust on returning there.

      1. SP says:

        I had to listen to that one on the radio. Missed out on a great battle there :(

  2. goferet says:

    Say, after Mclaren’s poor showing at Silverstone, I had all but lost hope for silverware (no pun intended) this season

    However looking at some football stats gave me a ray of home i.e.

    The two previous years (e.g. 1964 and 2008), that Spain won the Euro football championship, a British driver went on and won the title that year

    Also, no one country has won the Euro football trophy + the F1 WDC/WCC trophies in the same year. Nor has any country won the World Cup + F1 titles in the same year.

    In addition, the last time F1 didn’t have an Italian driver on the grid (i.e. 1969), a British driver went on to win that year too, a certain Sir Jackie Stewart.

    Here’s to hoping!!!!!!!!!

    1. Dave C says:

      Hoping is all it is, clutching at straws there I think.
      I’m sure Vettel will dig deep this weekend and take a overdue 2nd victory, as for rest of the podium? No idea, im sure Alonso and Webber wouldn’t be too far behind, as goes for Mclaren… Well hope their update gives them around 6 tenths because if not then they will fade.

      1. goferet says:

        @ Dave C

        I’m sure Vettel will dig deep this weekend
        and take a overdue 2nd victory
        ————————————————–

        Uh-Oh! but don’t you know Vettel and home pressure are somethings that don’t go hand in hand.

        Not only has 3rd place (despite having a good car since 2009) been his best result at Hockenhiem but he has never been on the podium at the other German track.

        Also there’s the little jinx of Vettel having not won a race in the month of his birth.

        So no Vettel & Webber aren’t looking like podium material this weekend so too Alonso because at 21 consecutive race points finishes, this can only mean a DNF isn’t far off.

      2. Dave C says:

        Vettel and Webber not podium material this weekend? Alonso going to have a DNF? all these are just wishful thinking, I’m sure Seb will prove you wrong this weekend and throw down the gauntlet to Alonso for the title, also Webber is in good form with a good car, a podium is very likely, Fernando will always be there because he is that good.
        Hamilton better pray the Mclaren is fast enough to challenge or the long face will extend well into the 2nd half of the season.

      3. Alonso fan says:

        Anybody know what the longest time is a driver has gone without a DNF? Also I read on a forum the other day that Massa is rapidly approaching the longest period that a team mate has ever gone without beating the other is this true?

    2. hero_was_senna says:

      Italy won the 1982 World Cup, and Ferrari won the F1 WCC.

      All statistics are just that, and generally to quote them, is the work of a wishful mind.

      Supposedly, no Formula Ford festival winner had ever won a F1 Championship. People like Johnny Herbert, Eddie Irvine, Mark Webber and Jenson Button.
      Yet Button removed that particular stat from the history books.

      Interestingly, before Button winning in 2009, no driver had ever become World Champion without winning a Grand Prix in his first 100 races. I believe Hungary 2006 was his 113th attempt.

      Or what about an oft quoted stat, that the winner of the first Grand Prix generally goes on to win the Championship.
      Would you care to place a wager on JB winning come November?

      1. goferet says:

        Alonso

        Anybody know what the longest time is a driver has gone without a DNF?
        ————————————————–

        The longest I know of one driver going without a mechanical retirement is 3 seasons ~ A certain Schumi with Ferrari.

        Whereas the record for points finishes is 24 consecutive races also held by Schumi (Alonso is currently on 21)

        If am not mistaken, Jenson may also hold a record of sorts of his own in that since Silverstone 2008 to Monaco 2012, he hadn’t retired from a race due to a crash.

        @ Hero was Senna

        Oh what about the often quoted stat of the winner of the first race goes on to win the championship
        ————————————————–

        Well in my calculations, I don’t base on who wins the first race as a guide to see where the championship may end up but rather who wins Australia.

        And not only that, it has to be the number 1 driver that has to win Australia i.e. Since 1996, whenever a number 1 driver has won that race, he has gone to win the title come the end of the season.

        As for Jenson, it’s a known fact, he’s blessed i.e. Stats have nothing on him.

      2. hero_was_senna says:

        Ok, I knew the race winners since Melbourne has become the host of the Australian GP since 1996, but like anybody is capable of doing, I checked my facts on Wikipedia.

        Year, Aus winner and Champion,

        1996, Hill/ Hill
        1997, DC/ JV
        1998, MH/ MH
        1999, IRV/ MH
        2000, MSC/ MSC
        2001, MSC/ MSC
        2002, MSC/ MSC
        2003, DC/ MSC
        2004, MSC/ MSC
        2005, Fisi/ FA
        2006, FA/ FA
        2007, KR/ KR
        2008, LH/ LH
        2009, JB/ JB
        2010, JB/ SV
        2011, SV/ SV
        2012, JB/ ?

        In 16 events, (96 to 2011) according to the stats, 11 Australian GP winners have won the WDC. Or 68.75%

        But obviously there has to be a caveat attached to these stats, it has to be “whenever a number 1 driver has won that race,”

        But according to many posters on all forums including this one, it’s only Ferrari that have a number 1 and 2 policy. Right??

        Or are you suggesting that DC was number 2 to Mika and Kimi? Or Fisi against Alonso? Maybe Button against Lewis?

        Statistics can be interpreted in any number of ways.

  3. Nadeem says:

    I miss the old track. Anyone else?

    1. Jonathan Kelk says:

      Yep I do. I look back at Rubens’ victory from 18th on the grid with fondness (conveniently forgetting the help from the safety car!), and seeing those cars flying by the trees was awesome. Also, when it rained, it was often the case that half the track was bone dry, the other half like rivers!!

    2. Martin says:

      I would have liked to have seen it without the second chicane with relatively modern cars. I remember watching bikes in the 90s bypassing the chicane. Not so sure I would have liked watching any 320 km/h crashes as a driver gets it wrong coming down from 350 or two cars touch. I’m guessing in low downforce trim that the corner wouldn’t be quite flat.

      It would be interesting to see what having two low downforce circuits would do to the aero philosophy. In the last two years we’ve seen some interesting results, with only Red Bull in 2011 being able to do well at both Spa and Monza. Ferrari and McLaren have alternately got one of them wrong each year.

      Hockenheim used to give us odd results as teams discovered something that worked there – e.g. Bennetton and Jordan in 97. However, none of the chicanes really did that much for me. The slipstreaming was slighly more common than other tracks, but now we have more corners and the more interesting ones to me are shared.

      I guess the old track provided some variety that the new one doesn’t, but otherwise I prefer the new one.

      Cheers,

      Martin

      1. Wade Parmino says:

        I can’t quite remember too much about the old track, but the section where Pironi had his accident in 82, is that still the same or has it been changed?

      2. Martin says:

        Hi Wade,
        From memory of reading about it Pironi hit Prost after the third chicane. With the new bit in between the hairpin and the stadium section there is a bit of this section that isn’t used. With a cartwheeling Ferrari it is probably safe to assume at least part of the accident is on the current track.

        Cheers,

        Martin

    3. Chris says:

      Yes. The long straights through the forest, skinny wings, and engines blowing up regularly. Monza is the only track left like that now.

      1. hero_was_senna says:

        Yes, the track layout into the corner before the stadium is exactly as it was when Pironi hit the back of Prost’s Renault.
        The only real change is the drag strip they have on the other side of the barrier and removal of trees, otherwise, as it was 30 years ago.

    4. SP says:

      Me too. Those blasts through the forest were a… blast! But not something I would enjoy with DRS :P

      I love watching cars through turn one here, they carry so much speed through it! Glad that hasnt been spoilt.

    5. EdA says:

      Miss the old track too, heading off in to the forest full throttle. It had individuality. Now it’s just another dull anodyne technical track. Didn’t Shumi have a hand in the new design?

      1. Elie says:

        Yeah definitely miss the old track -Aerial shot with two cars flat our side by side through the trees absolute Majic ! Like two super gazelles bolting through nature !!

    6. tarun says:

      I miss it too, does anyone know what was the reason for them to switch to the present circuit layout?
      I thought the old one was right up there with spa

      1. MrNed says:

        If I remember correctly it was a combination of:
        1) the long lap meant it was a low lap-count (around 45 laps I think), and this didn’t give good value to spectators.
        2) the length of the track meant marshalling was spread too thinly, and it could take too long for medical support to reach an accident (it took an F1 car about 2 mins to get around, so it could take the medical car quite a while to reach the scene of an ultra high-speed accident)
        3) despite the length of the track, the only viewing areas were around the “complex” at the end and beginning of the lap (but what a sight it was to see the cars blasting out of the forest and into that arena!)
        4) The speeds were becoming too high (approaching 230mph) with no obvious way of reducing them without fundamentally changing the track…

        …which is what they did!

        The saddest thing for me, though, is that out there in the woods lies Jim Clark’s memorial – it was fitting that the F1 cars roared past it every year.

        (BTW – for those who never saw it, it’s possible to see the remains of the old circuit cutting through the forest if you look on Google Earth).

    7. Me too! I miss the skinny wing package the teams would debut here and then reuse at Monza. F1 cars need to do 350+ km/h more often.

    8. Rach says:

      Indeed. Looking at google earth you can see an outline of the track but it looks like it has all been ripped up. Such a shame it had a character to it in direct contrast to monaco.

      1. terryshep says:

        Does anyone remember the old, old track, the one in use up until about 1960? Races ran anti-clockwise, no complex, it was virtually just two enormous curving straights (no chicanes) with a short link across about where the autobahn services are now. Start & finish was about where the last corner is these days.

        The mind boggles at the thought of those huge Auto-Unions and Mercs thundering down that narrow, bumpy and cambered road pre-war!

    9. Tyler says:

      Absolutely, I always thought of Hockenhiem as a classic along the lines of Monza with the contrast between the infield and the long back straightaways, they ruined it as far as i’m concerned.

  4. Ram says:

    Marussia is impressive atleast in the pit stops … mixing with the top teams and massive ~4 secs ahead of their main rival HRT .. two pitstops an average and they are close to shaving off 10 secs from them …

    1. Tyler says:

      And look at Glock… the guy deserves to be in a better car.

  5. Dufus says:

    Webbo for the win.
    Red Bull will come home strong in the 2nd half of the season.
    Of course Alonso will shake up the odds and keep RB honest with maybe a few upsets from Merc & Lotus.
    I don’t expect much from McLaren in the last half of the year.

  6. TnelanEsq says:

    “The temperature will be crucial to the outcome”. It’s sad, but it does seem like the temperature on the day is making the difference. I remember a time when the driver used to be in charge of making the difference.

    1. Martin says:

      When were you thinking of? It is extremely rare that the best car does not have a top line driver, and so the best car wins. Managing tyres is a skill the best drivers have. I could say, even Hamilton, looking at Barcelona this year. Stirling Moss won in Argentina in 1958 by not changing tyres. Novolari winning at the Nurburgring in 1935 was all about tyres on the Auto Unions and Mercedes not lasting. Having tyres that didn’t degrade or didn’t wear and cars that never break, would allow drivers to go at fuel adjusted qualifying speeds, but this has only ever happened in computer games.

      The idea that drivers are just cruising around now is a fallacy. Precision and accuracy are vital to good race pace. The tyres do favour certain styles, but that is always the case.

      Racing cars have long been sensitive to tyre pressures. Get these wrong for the track temperature and won’t be seeing a driver making a difference.

    2. Valois says:

      I think James meant that it is crucial in a sense that teams and drivers will have to make adjustments to get the upper hand. Drivers still make difference, for good and bad.

  7. goferet says:

    *Edited*

    Alright, I reckon we’re in for a interesting race this weekend for just like Bahrain, the teams are in a way heading into the unknown since we haven’t raced here with the Pirellis + DRS.

    Meanwhile, apart from the German drivers (especially Vettel), a number of teams will be under lots of pressure to deliver including Lotus, Mercedes & Mclaren.

    Also another driver, that will be having
    sleepless nights is Kimi having retired at German tracks six times in his career.

    Anyway, looking at the stats, it appears the shorter version of this track, is a happy hunting ground for Ferrari i.e. 4 wins out of 7 years were won by Ferrari (since 2002)

    As for Mclaren, it already doesn’t look good for the Woking boys and girls for they have won at the Hockenheim track only once in the last 10 years (2008) more worryingly, they have 6 Hockenhiem trophies in 30 odd years (Three of those were thanks to the
    Gordon Murray~Senna brilliance & the other one was thanks to the Newey’s Mclaren from 1998)

    Also since 2002, 4 pilots out of 7 years have won from pole.

    Further more, in the 32 years F1 has been racing at Hockenheim, only Williams and Mclaren have won 3 races back to back however, Aryton is the only driver to have won 3 races on the trot here i.e. 1988-1990.

    On the other hand, only Mansell and Piquet senior (both in Williams) are the only drivers to have won two races back to back however, since we stopped racing in the forest (in 2002), no pilot has won back to back races.

    1. Martin says:

      I believe you are giving Gordon Murray too much credit. My understanding is that Steve Nichols was the lead designer for 1988 and 89. Murray was there, but was already interested in road cars. The lowline MP4/4 was driven as much by a new gearbox and a small fuel tank as the BT55.
      Murray isn’t adverse to a little self promotion, eg his criticism when the Veyron came out.
      I’ll go for a Renault engine to win.

  8. Wade Parmino says:

    I’m hoping for a miracle – Schumacher wins!

    Realistically though, probably Alonso.
    Maybe Alonso will let Massa through this time. ;)

    1. MrNed says:

      “Maybe Alonso will let Massa through this time.”

      Giving Fillipe the opportunity to chase down the race-leading HRT of Karthikayen ;-)

      1. Wade Parmino says:

        LOL!

    2. ParkerS says:

      Not in a million years, unless the WDC is sealed.

  9. Nuno says:

    James,

    in your point of view, what is the team to beat on this track/tires combination and why?

    Thanks

    1. James Allen says:

      Red Bull – they’ve taken a massive step which didn’t show in Silverstone

      1. Ino says:

        Why didn’t it show in Silverstone?

      2. jay harte says:

        the red bulls dont like cooler track temps even so they still won ,so they should be strong here and mighty at hungary next wkend .

      3. Ino says:

        It might have been cooler, but the faster corners put enough heat into the tyres to make up for it.

      4. KGBVD says:

        It was hidden behind the umbrellas and parkas.

      5. Anop says:

        I don’t agree James.

        If Vettle’s lead of 20 secs to 2nd place in Valencia is the basis of the so called massive step then one should take into account the fact that Romain was slowed down by Lewis or else the gap would never had been 20 secs.

        To add to that Fernando easily matched Vettle’s time when he was in free air in Valencia.

        Of course Red Bull have taken a step forward but so will Ferrari as they have upgrades planned for Germany and Hungary.

        Ferrari’s are the one to watch out again.

  10. anthony says:

    interesting stats goferet. im guna call a hamilton/alonso/massa/webber in that order !

    i would like a massa/alonso/hamilton though ( webber can crash )

  11. Sri says:

    One thing I do not understand is the net gain in positions at the start (+186) is much more than net loss in positions (-38). Should they not be equal?

    1. James Allen says:

      It’s just a guide, some cars are eliminated at start, so lose lots of places and it’s not fair to include that. no-one gets comparable gains, but
      It gives an indication of who makes gains and losses at the start. The patterns are clear

      1. Jim Dee says:

        Yeah so all the cars that pass the eliminated car get credit for gaining. :urg:

    2. monktonnik says:

      A worrying trend in this particular statistic is that JB has dropped from being towards the top of the table to being even.

      As a driver who generally goes forward in races this is a poignant reminder of how poor this season is turning out to be; and after such promise.

  12. SP says:

    Andrea Stella (sp) pointed out the last time out many cars suffered heavier tyre wear on the front left and the rears too. So will be interesting to see how well the Pirellis cope, especially if its hot.

    Hoping it all gels together for Kimi this weekend. Really want to see him on the top step. But with the like of Alonso around and the two RBR’s, it wont be easy. Qualifying will be crucial if he wants a good result.

  13. Rob Newman says:

    I think this is the best opportunity for Lotus. In race trim, they are very good. We will probably see an 8th winner.

    1. MANish says:

      What makes you think that this is the “BEST” opportunity for Lotus and not the previous races in the past…

      1. Rob Newman says:

        If they have had the best opportunity in the past, then they would have won! ;)

        Having lessons learnt, this gives the perfect opportunity for them to score that elusive win.

      2. hero_was_senna says:

        Be grateful that no hatred of Ferrari or Alonso was uttered on this occasion!!

      3. Elie says:

        Hate Ferrari Fernando is ok ! Lol

      4. Valois says:

        Past races can’t be won by Lotus anymore :-)

      5. Elie says:

        Hehe

  14. Tornillo Amarillo says:

    I expect McLaren goes forward and don’t miss this one, being 4th in the WCC is a shame, do you remember when McLaren was 4th overall lately?

    I cannot be happy with Button neither.

    My guess:

    Pole: Vettel

    1.Vettel
    2. Webber
    3. Grosjean

    but I prefer a win from Lotus, really deserved.

    1. Jim Dee says:

      Grosjean will do well to recover from 5 place grid penalty. Vet Web Alo Rai….

  15. Nismo + F1 says:

    It all depends on Mclarens upgrade “Rear end upgrade”. Will this give them rear downforce or not?.

  16. gudien says:

    McLaren and Jenson Button in particular need a vacation. Hopefully they won’t be embarassed too badly over the next two races.

  17. Dino says:

    Soft/medium was the tyre combination in Bahrein and Valencia, so if it is warm enough I wouldn’t bet against a Red Bull driver winning this.

    I would like to see McLaren back on form, somehow without the silver cars the WDC race is not the same (and this from a Ferrari supporter).

    Regards,

    Dino

    1. hero_was_senna says:

      Really? I love it when the arrogance of Mclaren falls apart

      1. Elie says:

        Ppfff ….and Ferrari not ‘arrogant’. Great comment Dino ! & no certainly won’t bet against RBR winning this just want Lotus to get up !

  18. FerrariFan says:

    Hockenheim is a special place for me. It was the only grand prix I ever attended (2008). The atmosphere was great, festive. The whole town was a sea of red, though Schumacher wan not driving then. I was there supporting Kimi but Hamilton won the race. One interesting thing is that force india were the last two cars then and now they have improved greatly to be in the mid field. It can get really hot in that region this time of the year. So watch out for Lotus and Kimi!

  19. Anil says:

    I really hope they don’t use an overly long DRS zone again for this race. The one at Silverstone was too big and the hairpin is already a great overtaking spot. Fingers crossed they put it straight after turn 1 on the run to turn 2, letting the cars get close to each other so they can fight towards the hairpin.

  20. kfzmeister says:

    “Felipe, Alonso is faster than you”!
    Has been about the story since that day as well :)

  21. Stone the crows says:

    1. Vettel,
    2. Alonso,
    3. Grosjean.

    1. jay harte says:

      i agree its going to be something like
      1st vettel
      2nd alonso
      3rd grosjean or kimi maybe even 2nd for them if its hot enough .

  22. Liam in Sydney says:

    As much as it pains my Aussie heart to say this, my pick is Vettel for the win. Webber does not perform well on high degradation tracks as he has shown to be harsh on his tyres.

    Lotus should potentially win if they can qualify well.

    The dark horse should surely be Perez?

  23. Bullish says:

    James,
    for only the Soft/Medium combination, how would the championship standing look like?

  24. Sebastian says:

    A better table than places lost/won would be average position after first lap. That way it would balance qualy performance and first lap pace. Just a thought :)

  25. Matt Clayton says:

    Webber won the German GP in 2009, Lets see him do it again.. would laugh at a RBR radio request “Seb, Mark is faster than you” during the race when Seb is leading. Oh 2 stops on used @ 24 and 47 to give 5 sec over James’s prediction, 10 sec on new rubber.

  26. Karl says:

    Can someone explaine to me the difference between “Loss time for a Pit stop” and “Total time needed for pit stop”?
    Is one the time it takes to drive through the pits without stopping and the other one including the pit stop time? or is it something else all-together?

    1. James Allen says:

      One is the time difference between stopping in the pits rather than staying out and completing another lap.
      The other is the total amount of time a stop actually takes.

      1. Karl says:

        Thanx James.
        I’m still trying to wrap my head around it.

        How are both of them calculated?
        Is it something i can calculate by just using Lap time Data?
        Or is it something done with telemetry or a stop watch?

      2. Karl says:

        I sorted it out in my head now James, And i think i have got it.

        The “loss time” is the “Total time needed for a pit stop” minus the time it would have taken you to stay out and complete the lap.

        So, what i can calculate myself with only the Lap time Data is the “Total time it takes for the pit stop”.
        In order to calculate the “loss time” i would need to know the time it takes to travel on the track from the pit entry to the pit exit. but since that is not a standard sector time, and not information that is readily available, i would not be able to calculate it on my own.

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