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Posted By: James Allen  |  30 Mar 2012   |  11:08 am GMT  |  91 comments

Toro Rosso refugee Jaime Alguersuari has been hired as test driver by Pirelli, giving him a platform from which to try to return to an F1 cockpit in 2013.

The 22 year old was dropped by Toro Rosso in mid December 2011, giving him no time to find a seat for the 2012 season. He has been working this season for BBC Radio 5 Live as my co-commentator and driver/summariser.

Pirelli has also retained the services of Lucas di Grassi to provide a reference point from the tests conducted so far.

According to Pirelli, “Both drivers will drive Pirelli’s latest test car – a 2010 Renault R30 – in four development tests this year at Jerez, Spa, Monza and Barcelona, following an initial GP2 test in Jerez that concluded yesterday. The tests will be aimed at defining the 2013 range of Pirelli tyres, which will have new compounds and structures, as well as trying out compound developments that could be seen later on this season.”

Pirelli previously used an old Toyota F1 car, but needed to upgrade to the 2010 Renault because they needed a car similar in downforce levels and with a full size fuel tank to simulate 2012 and 2013 conditions.

Pirelli motorsport boss Paul Hembery believes that the opportunity to stay current and get some F1 mileage will give the drivers, particularly Alguersuari, a chance to show that they deserve to be in F1.

“With opportunities for young drivers to drive a Formula One car so limited, this is a great chance for Lucas and Jaime to not only hone their testing and development skills, but also to potentially follow our former test drivers like Romain Grosjean, Pedro de la Rosa and Nick Heidfeld in returning to F1 or another top flight motorsport programme in future.”

He added, “We’re going to be using the drivers for all of our single-seater testing activities, including GP2 and simulator development as well. Their input and expertise are sure to help us make even greater progress during the season, resulting in competition tyres that enhance the action further and new technologies that will eventually filter down to our Ultra High Performance road car products.”

I’ve very much enjoyed working with and getting to know Alguersuari this year. He’s a bright young man who is able to see very quickly the nuances behind what is happening on track and is very decisive in his calls. As the only driver/summariser in the media who has raced with DRS and Pirelli tyres his currency is a great strength and his new role as test driver for Pirelli will further greatly enhance Radio 5 Live’s F1 coverage this year.

He was unlucky with the way the Toro Rosso situation was handled last winter and the general consensus is that he deserves to be on the F1 grid. Pay drivers have taken quite a few seats up this year, but he will be hoping that strong showings in the Pirelli test car, intimate knowledge of the 2013 tyres and some positive references from the engineers, might get him back on a team’s radar for 2013.

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  1. Andrew Carter says:

    Not a surprise to see him get the role, and a good choice I think.

  2. MISTER says:

    I like Jaime. Wish him all the best and for sure he will find a seat in 2013 having previous experience in F1 and now invaluable experience on the new Pirelli tyres. He’s fast also.

    We’ll be seeing lots of him in the future I think.

  3. goferet says:

    Now that’s what am talking about.

    Well done to Alguersuari on scooping up this extra gig and as noted earlier, tyre test drivers have a good record of getting back into the sport as shown by the names of former test drivers like Heidfeld.

    It would have been an injustice if a driver like Jaime ( and Sutil for that matter) never got a second chance when you have the likes of Bruno Senna & Co getting second & third chances.

    But something that never seizes to amaze moi is the dirty deals that happen in this world, always behind closed doors and not only in F1 but this sort of thing happens in the political & business arena too.

    For isn’t it a sweet coincidence that Jaime gets named as the second Pirelli test driver about a week after the Pirelli top dog Hemberg joined our JA on F1 plus Jaime in the commentary booth at the Malaysian Grand Prix

    Hmm… Very suspicious indeed!

    P.s.

    Okay, all over a sudden, am not 100% confident about Alonso’s win in Malaysia Hahaa

    1. terryshep says:

      By that reasoning, how did Lucas di Grassi get in ahead of our James who was also present?

      Let’s see if I can help you with this problem you have with Alonso being called the winner. I think what influenced the race officials was that he completed the race distance a little faster than anyone else and actually crossed the line while leading the race. This almost invariably leads to the driver in question being declared the winner and this pretty well explains the decision in Fernando’s favour on Sunday.

      I always look forward to your contributions and I’m pleased to have been able to assist you in your understanding on this occasion.

    2. JackFlash (Aust) says:

      So… just to get this straight GoFeret.
      You never have seizures that amaze you. Are all your seizures just minor, resulting in flinches or ticks – no more?

      The gradual web-erosion of the English language never ceases to amaze me! JF

    3. Andrew says:

      Goferet

      Why do you think Sutil and Alguersuari have had less of a chance than Senna?
      Senna has only had his partial season with HRT and a few races with a worsening Renault last year.

      Senna’s Malaysia performance in a midfield car was as good as anything Sutil or Alguersuari have done in their performances.

      I have no preference for any of the 3 drivers but I am constantly frustated by people’s unsubstantiated prejudices.

      The truth is that all of the current drivers are good and that most of them have similar speed. Performance differentials come from the car and then how the car suits a drivers own style and nuances.

      So, Alguersuari is a decent driver but he is no better than anybody else and he had a good run at Toro Rosso to prove himself, as did Sutil at Force India.

      1. Martin says:

        I take your point, although as an anybody, I’m sure Alguersuari is a better F1 driver than me. With the lack of testing, it makes it difficult for young drivers to get sufficient experience so that teams are willing to take them on.

        The 24 drivers are by no means the best 24 drivers in the world, but by virtue of their current experience, many of them would be in the top 24 F1 drivers. The ease with which the two Renault drivers slotted into the front end of the F1 field shows drivers are readily interchangeable if the car is well behaved. If it is an unbalanced mess, e.g. the 2009 and 2012 Ferraris, it is a different story.

        Cheers,

        Martin

      2. Kevin Green says:

        Very very true!! pay drivers as such simply should not be a factor in the apparent pinnacle that is “F1″ it should be the finest teams and the finest drivers.

        Any money coming in should be genuine team advertising sponsorship or through simple passion or home country backing if you like for that very reason.

        As for Jaimie i believe he actually is that good and even at this stage in the top third of the grid on driver quality and potential.

  4. Marco says:

    HI James … always great to read your articles.

    I would like to know how you rate JA ?
    I am a hard core Ferrari nut and i for one would love to see JA in a Ferrari.. what are you thoughts on that .

    Cheers ! Marco

    Forza Ferrari !! Forza Alonso !!

  5. AuraF1 says:

    Well I’m sure he’ll be bound by a lot of clauses not to comment, but he should bring some useful insight into the changing behaviour of Pirelli tyres as the season moves on.

  6. Arvin Sharma says:

    James,
    Does Pirelli pay a “salary” to their test drivers like JA & LDG, or just cover their basic expenses??

    Considering that the younger drivers get a great opportunity to get into F1 by being Pirelli testers, either seems feasible I guess.

    1. James Allen says:

      They get paid. It’s quite a lot of work

  7. CarlH says:

    Hi James,

    Did Jaime ever considering dropping to GP2 after Toro Rosso dropped him?

    It seemed to me as though it would have been a good move if the opportunity was there. He’s still very young and a year or two competing in (and car-permitting, possibly winning) the GP2 championship would look good to any potential employers in F1.

    It worked for Grosjean…

    1. James Allen says:

      No Grisjean did just 6 GPs, Jaime’s done over 40!

      1. CarlH says:

        True, but it would have kept him in a race car, whilst still allowing him to stay around the F1 paddock. Seemed like a good short-term compromise to me.

    2. Dave Aston says:

      Grosjean seems to be still involved in shorter races.

      1. Dave Aston says:

        But, I must say, he got a bad deal in Australia with Baldonado, and he’s been impressive in qualifying. I’m sure he’ll score a lot of points this season.

    3. amazon says:

      too risky for a driver that has little to prove and a lot to lose.
      And let’s not forget you need a big budget, 1,5 million. If he had that kind of money he would be driving a williams.

      1. CarlH says:

        I think any driver who is labelled ‘not a winner’ by a top team like Red Bull will still have plenty to prove.

  8. madmax says:

    Thought they said they were looking for someone who wasn’t just going to try to use the job as a springboard back into an F1 drive.

  9. Shir0 says:

    If in case Massa is sacked, I’d would love to see Jaime take the #6 F2012.

    Don’t get me wrong though, I like Felipe and had rooted for him back in 2008 and early 2009. But I think he should take to the same route that Hakkinen took. His accident left him a changed driver if not a changed man.

    As for Checo, I say leave him in the Sauber. Peter and his team needs him there.

    1. AndyK says:

      Hakkinen won 2 world championships after his huge shunt!

    2. Kshitij says:

      Which accident of Hakkinen’s are you referring to?

      1. Martin says:

        Possibly having kids :-)

        I don’t remember the details, but I remember David Coulthard suggesting that Mika started getting fearful in 2001 and decided to take a sabatical that turned into retirement. So not a crash as such, but a loss of desire.

      2. BurgerF1 says:

        Adelaide ’95. Ugly one – it was life and death stuff.

  10. Ross says:

    Lucas di Grassi and Jaime Alguersuari are two men who are very unfortunate not to still be on the grid. It would be a handy dou to have in any team from the midfield backwards.

    Shame their bank balances dont match their talents.

    I believe certain ‘pay drivers’ get undue criticism for bringing cash to teams who really need it. On the flip side I wonder how many good drivers have missed out on the oppertunity to get a seat on the grid.

    Neither of these drivers deserved to be ditched by their respective teams.

  11. Jaled Larbi says:

    I hope this is his ticket to land a seat next season!!
    He deserves a place in F1!!

    1. puffing says:

      Indeed he does. I trust too he shall get a seat good enough to develop his talent.

      1. Dave Aston says:

        Didn’t he already have that for two years?

      2. Puffing says:

        Yeah, from 19 y-o –beeing hired in the middle the season, with no previous testing of a F1car at all– to 21 y-o. And he improved, indeed he improved as shown by his results of last year.

      3. Andrew Kirk says:

        Massa drove a Sauber for one year proved fast but too wild. Ferrari had him as their test driver and he returned to Sauber improved and has only got better as time went on… then Alonso joined Ferrari :(

  12. Ross says:

    James.

    Slightly off topic. I am currently planning a trip to take in the first three fly away races next year.

    Given the costs and distances of the travel from Mal-Lon-Chin, How many of the F1 circus opt to stay in Asia and not return to HQ.

    I appreciate key members of staff are required back at HQ but surely the hassle of all the travel would mean it is better to stay in Asia.

    1. James Allen says:

      Depends on the gaps. Everyone stays out between Australia and Malaysia. But this year with a three week gap to China most have come back to Europe

    2. Hi Ross,

      No sure why you ask this question but this year, with a three week gap, everyone returned to base between Malaysia and China, bar a few guys who take the opportunity to take a couple of weeks of in Thailand for example.

      For tips about Malaysia and China, please do have a look at grandprixadvisor.com. We have just been in touch with someone who works at the Chinese GP and will have something on the site soon enough for you to plan your trip.

      Malaysia should publish the dates of its F1 round around July/August.

  13. Des Murray says:

    James,
    He’s a better driver than co-commentator! I listened on Sunday to your Radio 5 commentary and it seemed every time you handed over to Jaime with a ‘What do you think?’ his reply was invariably ‘Well..I don’t know… it’s very hard to say..’ Very informative, razor sharp insight!!
    You, James, however were superb as usual.
    cheers
    Des

  14. hero_was_senna says:

    James,
    many have commented about Jaime replacing Massa at Ferrari.
    Whilst I can see the reasoning behind this, is there any truth to Alonso and Jaime not getting on? Is it anything to do with being rivals from different parts of Spain?
    In the same way that Barcelona fans have decades of hatred with the Real Madrid fans.

    1. James Allen says:

      No. I don’t think there’s anything to this, Ferrari only take drivers with quite a bit of experience – even Massa had to do 3 years at Sauber before he got the Ferrari gig

      1. Kevin Green says:

        Jaimie is the right man for Ferrari in my eyes especially as this time around they currently have the best driver in f1 already in the other seat.

        I am so sure he is far far better than people seem to believe with so much more positives ready to boil over and out of the pot.

      2. Mike J says:

        hmmmm, then who at Ferrari next year?…i still think we may find Webber there

    2. puffing says:

      Hehe, don’t buy it!
      Alonso is a native of Asturias, as Villa the Barcelona football player is too. Jose Enrique, a former Barcelona footballer was also Asturian.
      Seriously, there indeed is rivalry between FC Barcelona and Real Madrid football teams but not between sport persons because of their place of birth. And, there is not biggest rivalry than between Sevilla and Betis football teams, both of Sevilla, or between Real Madrid and Atlético de Madrid football teams, both of Madrid.
      ; )

      1. hero_was_senna says:

        Thankyou

  15. Dave Aston says:

    Do other media outlets consider this a conflict of interests? Alguersuari may be bringing lots of sensitive information to the James Allen commentary squad. But, it’s good news he got the gig. In fact, any F1 news day that doesn’t feature speculation about Lewis Hamilton’s sensitive state of mind is a pleasure to behold.

    1. James Allen says:

      Are you complaining??!!

      In any case, drivers are well practiced at keeping sensitive information to themselves. Think of Martin Brundle on ITV when he was managing David Coulthard.

      Or Coulthard himself, who is still working with Red Bull Racing.

      1. Dave Aston says:

        Obviously I was joking… but, on that point, it also reminds me of Michael and Ralf too, especially when both those teams were fighting for wins.

      2. Kris Grzegorczyk says:

        I actually found Coulthard’s position with RBR undermined what he did for the beeb, I recall Turkey 2010, when he seemed particularly hesitant to provide an opinion on the Vettel and Webber coming together, as the main example. People are obviously free to develop their post-race careers as they see fit but it did strike me as a weak point of the coverage at the time.

      3. Kevin Green says:

        thought the same at the time

  16. Rich C says:

    Good job by Jaime (and his agent!)

  17. Tornillo Amarillo says:

    But after 40 GPs in F1, RBR said Jaime was not going to be a winner in a RBR car, so it is not clear if it was an accurate opinion from Marko or not. It’s not clear for the fans, but people can change and Button has showed that.

    1. MSta says:

      Given the current form of RB this season could it be the case that none of the RBR drivers will be winners?

  18. These are difficult times for F1 drivers. Of all the times, I’d say these are definitely very difficult ones.

    Dunno why Shuari didn’t go to WEC or something, testing is one thing but racing is totally different. I think Pirelli test job is a road to nowhere. Hopefully, and contrary to my pessimism, it’ll work out for him.

    PS Downloaded 5Live podcasts and Shuari keeps saying “doss” instead “does”. He doss. More interviews with the drivers would be nice too.

  19. Davexxx says:

    I’m surprised I seem to be the first one to ask this question – James will his new gig ‘conflict’ with his 5 Live job? Will he now be less available to help you in the comm box each race?
    And, separate question, WHERE does he do the Pirelli job – at one ‘base’ or traveling around with the circus to different races?

    1. James Allen says:

      No, tests are tests and races are races. It will help his commentary

    2. Andrew Carter says:

      Tests will obviously be done on track, usually Barcelona and Valencia. Anything else to do with development will be done at Pirelli’s base where they design and develop then tyres, which I would guess is in Italy somewhere.

  20. Obster says:

    Good deal for Jaime…could lead to a race seat.

  21. amazon says:

    i hope he get’s back into racing. I want to see how good he really is.
    I wish i could watch him besides a known quantity like Rosberg. I think he is at that level.
    Perez i think is a step above them, and one below hamilton-alonso-vettel.

  22. Adrian Newey Jnr says:

    People forget that Jamie is only 22. I’m sure that the wise heads advising him are telling him he still has time on his side. Given Schumi is 43, a driver’s career (assuming they are still on the pace) can be long. Look at people like Allan McNish and some of the other endurance races who are also “getting on”.

    I’ve really appreciated Jamie’s comments on the podcast. I think despite English not being his first language, he raises some interesting and insightful points. Arguably more so than people like Brundle or Coulthard with many more years in the game. I think Coulthard in particular could be giving viewers much greater insight into the running of the cars/teams but perhaps for contractual reasons ,with RB in particular, he is unable to. I’m sure he would be able to give his opinion on why certain cars are fast/slow based on things like tyre pressures, design faults, or designer philosophies. But he only seems to give general answers.

    James – could you do a blog post on the 2013 silly season? I.e. which drivers are coming off contract or underperforming, leading to available seats? I think this is very topical given the recent Massa/Perez rumours.

    1. James Allen says:

      Will look at that, thanks

    2. Kevin Green says:

      He has a lot more than time on his side, considerable evident raw talent being the key thing!! everyone stop flapping i will assure you he woill emerge as being top 5 talent post Senna within 5 yrs from now. I certainly see it and i am as prev stated certain he will emerge back in F1 race day by the next seasons start at the latest and from mid table team upwards. i think Mercedes swift signing was a pretty clear statement alone! and for him being a tyre tester ij the mean time is bound to add to his value.

      1. Dave Aston says:

        Top five post Senna? Good grief… And, in other news, Nick Heidfeld is better than Fangio.

      2. Kevin Green says:

        Note I said emerge! pick it up again in a decade Dave!!!!

    3. APAAPSPASPAAASA says:

      Drivers locked in with a contract currently (so they may lose a contract or gain, etc…)

      Ferrari – Alonso

      HRT – de la Rosa (although HRT aren’t the best at keeping contracts.. see Liuzzi)

      Lotus – Raikkonen (rumoured to be based on performance… not sure whether that it car performance, driver, or both)

      Marussia – Glock

      McLaren – Button

      Mercedes – Rosberg

      Red Bull – Vettel

      The rest is up for grabs. I won’t list all drivers who are currently driving as there are also GP2 grads, FR3.5 grads, drivers out currently, etc…

      Grand Prix’s for 2013:
      New Jersey will be added

      As in 2012 except Japan (Suzuka), Belgium (Spa) and Singapore are all out of contract.
      Keeping all 3 would mean 3 races which isn’t possible unless the new concorde agreement allows it.

      Singapore will be kept because it works moneywise, Japan will be kept because it is needed to entice Japanese manafacturers back into F1 leaving Spa which fans will moan about but doesn’t make the money so Bernie doesn’t really care.

      That being said the two Spanish rounds (Spanish GP and European GP) is highly rumoured to rotate.

      This would leave 3 spots, 1 for Singapore, 1 for Japan and 1 for Belgium to rotate with France

  23. Denis 68 says:

    I like Jamie but unfortunately he’s had his chance. He failed to bury an average team mate like Buemi.

    I believe he’s got a great career ahead of him in music and as a motor sport presenter.

    1. Kevin Green says:

      Poor poor evaluation I thinks!! ha ha reckon you are going to have a yr at the very most to rue on that comment.

      1. Martin says:

        Hi Kevin,

        I picked this one to reply to as your reply to me was the fourth in the chain.

        Clearly, like James, you see a lot of positives in Jaime’s driving. My sense, from what I’ve seen and what I interpretted the Red Bull comments to say, is that Jaime lacks the qualifying pace that is often needed to win races. If you look at Jenson Button’s 2011 season, it was compromised by his lap one position. He was usually beaten by Vettel at that point. Button reguarly drove high quality races from that point (although coming home with a wet sail, e.g Singapore, Brazil, is misleading as people forget the more average start to the race), his weekend was already compromised.

        For me Jaime’s season was similar to Button’s. High quality races, often aided by surplus fresh tyres from qualifying. The Torro Rosso set up of low downforce contributed to this, hurting one lap pace but reducing tyre wear and aiding overtaking.

        I’ve never seen Jaime race in lower classes, but it is well known that this doesn’t always translate into cars as fast as F1. Torro Rosso already saw that with Bourdais. Do well in a Formula Ford, with no power, and no wings and you can end up being sponsored into a top team in F3. Gell with your engineer and then you’re race winner in F3 and anything can happen in terms of testing contracts. Kobayashi came from obsurity to Toyota. Glock crashed – one good race and career in F1 is born. Kamui admits that he can do more in qualifying.

        I remember a review of the new drivers for last year, I think in Motorsport. It basically said that di Resta was a star and that d’Ambrosio, Perez and Maldonaldo were there to make up the numbers. Right now I think Paul has a question mark over his one lap pace. Malaysia was a positive sign, given the large gap to Nico in Melbourne.

        I am not necessarily disagreeing with your assessment that Jaime is in the top third, but in my ideal workd I’d be churning many more of the drivers. Glock was occasionally better than Trulli in races – gone. Petrov – unremarkable so far, mind management an issue. Kartikeyan and De La Rosa are competent but no more. Sutil was occasionally better than the rookie di Resta. Senna and Maldonado – too many errors at this stage.

        The first problem is that quality performances in lower classes is not a sufficient indicator of ability in an F1 car. The cars are just different. Some talents take a while to fully get the best out of the cars, e.g. Sutil. The really good guys tend to show pace almost immediately in some form. The polish can take time.

        One final point – personally, I’d rather there wasn’t a nationalistic flavour to the teams’ driver selections. As I was growing up in the 80s, Williams was seen as much more British than McLaren. Being an Australian, I’m not sure how the situation developed. I really only noticed it once Mercedes came out with Heil Deutschland in 2010, and McLaren seemed to respond. I think this works against getting the best drivers into the world championship, and it could mean that an under performing driver is kept in a team because another from that nation is not ready.

        Cheers,

        Martin

      2. James Allen says:

        Ih had something to do with the way the car was set up for race, rather than qualifying, as I understand it. Toro Rosso often ‘threw’ qualifying in that first year on Pirellis because they saw that new sets of fresh tyres and good strategy outweighed starting on the fringes of top ten

      3. Kevin Green says:

        Few errors there Martin as much a fan of Di Resta Sutil clearly out drove him all in all last season (but that emerged to be clear why!) Are you forgetting Jaimie is only 22??

        What other driver has shown such promise in a mid-low team on average? and before you reply that one remember Vettel and Newey were at Torro Rosso at the same time so that’s a very very clear factor!

        I agree about the racial driver/team ties that seems to be clearly emerging more than ever before did not see it in the mid 80s-mid 90s really and that was undoubtably F1s greatest era on the track and for raw entertainment.

        And of course what James just said too it was clearly admitted on at least 4 occasions that i can think of by driver or team personal remember that was a team re finding its feet again to a certain degree after Newey stepping up to Redbull Quite a void to fill by any means

      4. Martin says:

        Hi Kevin,

        Re Sutil, I’m inferring that you regard Sutil’s end of season form pick up as contract related? I’ll give him slightly more credit than that as he had other good races in other years. My basic point about Sutil is that for a driver with 90 starts he hardly put di Resta away consistently, so why not look for new star? You can end up ahead of a team mate in a race for unusual factors – dodgy pitstops, a path is blocked at the start. Sutil’s feel in the wet is generally regarded as one of his skills – his one lap pace is isn’t held in any particular regard. Although it was F3, it probably didn’t help that Hamilton cleaned him up in the same team. In the Autocourse top ten, di Resta was 8th (probably a rookie bias) and Sutil 9th. Sutil had some silly incidents, whereas di Resta tended to avoid trouble.

        My vague point was that Sutil was hardly a consistently excellent driver. You don’t see him being classed as the next Alonso/Hamilton/Vettel and none of the top teams have looked to sign him from what I’ve seen, unlike Rosberg for example.

        Back on Jaime, no I’m not forgetting he’s 22. He’s also the youngest ever GP starter, so he has some top level experience now with 46 races.

        My basic point is that I don’t think the F1 community thinks he had the 1 lap pace of an F1 star. Drivers like Schumacher, Alonso, Raikkonen, Webber, Vettel tended to show qualifying pace very early in their F1 careers. The top drivers tend to have pace first and polish their racing later. In terms of average grid position, Jaime has been out qualified by Buemi in 2009, 10 and 11.

        Giorgio Ascanelli told Autocourse “Both Jaime and Sebastien I mut give credit to because their attentive, conservative attitude has brought us many points. When you at the teams around us, a couple had drivers taht were quick, but kept getting into trouble. i would say our drivers were not too ambitious with their speed. But like Gilles villeneuve always said, if you want to drive on the limit, you have to know where it is. On the softer compound neither driver could adapt to teh feelign of the car floating or the carcass floating on the compound, but it is no big deal.” Doesn’t exactly read like the next Lewis Hamilton?

        Is Jaime good enough to be the next Jenson Button. Again, I don’t think he has the one lap pace in an F1 car. Red Bull agrees and it has a lot more data to go on than we do.

        Cheers,

        Martin

      5. Kevin Green says:

        lol what a belter!!!

  24. Wu says:

    Better than his commenting career… his nonsense about Kubica was definitly a low point for him… for someone who apparently soesn’t have enough strength to hold a glass up, Kubica’s been doing very well recently, posting a competitive time in a rally car, and a 4th fastest time on a kart track.

    1. AH Jordan says:

      The strength required to hold a glass is slightly different though…it could be that Kubica doesn’t have the dexterity in his fingers to grip the glass firmly…

      …something that could be worked around for driving a rally car or a kart…an F1 car though, who knows…

      1. Wu says:

        Alg said strength, not fine movements… his source for the story was wrong, and he should at least apologise.

    2. Kevin Green says:

      elaborate please???

      1. Wu says:

        I posted it a few times earlier last month… this is a good site for news about Kubi’s recovery. It has good and bad news, so it’s not biased (except for the well wishing of course)

        http://robertscomeback.blogspot.co.uk/

      2. Kevin Green says:

        Being realistic Robert would be very unlikely to get back into F1 and if he does it will be a Mid team at absolute best.

        My opinion of the guy i think he was brilliant and within the top 3 drivers post Senna possibly 2nd pitty we never got a chance to gauge him at Ferrari against Alonso who i think is certainly the best now and post Senna. Its such a shame.

      3. Wu says:

        I’d be surprised if a team like Ferrari would choose Kubica without intensive testing, and I doubt Kubica would even want to step in mid-season into any car, let alone Ferrari itself.

        Saying that, a low or midfield car isn’t a bad place to prove to the rest of the paddock he hasn’t lost anything since the crash. From there he can move up once again. But it’s important he gets pre-season testing done first if he ever comes back.

  25. goferet says:

    @ Andrew

    Why do you think Sutil and Alguersuari
    have had less of a chance than Senna?
    ————————————————–

    Why I think Jaime & Sutil have had less of a chance because they haven’t got a seat for 2012 and all this after having pretty having good seasons Last year.

    Now Senna (due to his name & second place finish in GP2) a lot was expected of him and since he hasn’t shown any promise even in a bad car (yes top drivers are able to do that) he still gets second chances.

    Yes Bruno’s 6th place finish in Malaysia was a good result but remember that’s mainly thanks to Jenson & Vettel not scoring besides that, I believe Bruno prefers the wet conditions as we also saw at Spa qualifying 2011

    And no, despite popular belief not all F1 pilots are good enough, some were just not meant to be race drivers e.g. Nakagima (both senior and junior), Chandhok, Yamamoto, Piquet junior, Narain etc.

    1. Adrian Newey Jnr says:

      @goferret: You’re also forgetting that Senna brings an important commodity to any F1 team. Sponsorship!

      1. Kevin Green says:

        Drivers should not bring sponsors and sponsors should not bring sponsors into the team as such, that’s where its all wrong.

  26. Dean says:

    I think Jaime has had his chance for the mean while. Lets not forget that Vettel put a Toro Rosso on the top of the podium. In the time that Jaime had at TR his racing was so unmemorable that I wouldn’t have a clue what his highest finish was. And as for the Bruno Senna bashing, he’s had less than two years experience in a HRT tractor and an unstable/poorly developed Renault. Hardly a good gauge to measure a drivers abilities.

    1. Kevin Green says:

      Forgetting who was front running the design of that Vettel era Torro Rosso??? Bruno does not have near the potential as Jaimie quite simples!!!

      1. Jay says:

        No he wasn’t forgetting who ran that Vettel era STR. But that was before Newey got Red Bull or STR to finish any higher than 6th in the constructors championship.

      2. Kevin Green says:

        Yes but keep in mind he was relatively fresh into the team Newey is the key factor to that couple of teams strides forward simple as.

      3. Jay says:

        Red Bull didn’t really make too much of a stride forward until the 2009 rule changes. In 2005 and 2006 RBR were 7th. They were 6th in 2007 and 7th again in 2008 (with STR 6th, largely thanks to Vettel’s 35 points).

    2. Wu says:

      I think both Alg and Senna are good drivers, but it’s impossible to gauge one against another. Alg had a midfield car, Senna had the worst car, coupled with inexperience of the team and own inexperience, it’s not surprising he didn’t do too well there. As for Renault… he joined mid-season, something grosjean can testify is a hard thing to do, yet he drove rather well. His qualifying in Spa showed what the boy can do.

      Alg was a hard worker, but I can’t see he has anything extra special compared to the superstars. Second driver/test driver is where he’s best at I think.

      1. Kevin Green says:

        Trust me that boy ha got something extra special, and that’s not coming from being a particular fan of his at all.

      2. Dean says:

        You’re spot on in my opinion Wu. Both drivers are talented, they have to be to get onto the grid. Regardless of whether they are a “pay driver” or not. I just think that if Jaime is as talented as Mr Green says he is, then surely he would have been on the radar of atleast 2-3 teams leading up to the 2012 season. He’ll probably find his way into a seat again, who knows how fruitful it will be though…

      3. Kevin Green says:

        What are you going on about he was snapped up by Mercedes pretty pronto after he was sacked from Torro Rosso does that not tell you anything??

        Its yet to be seen if that directly in the mean time was to keep him out of competitors cars more so than for there own current uses again for obv reasons

      4. Jay says:

        @Green

        Wasn’t it only a rumour that he’d go to Mercedes? He isn’t their test driver, either.

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