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Vettel strolls to pole for Turkish GP
Posted By: James Allen  |  07 May 2011   |  1:32 pm GMT  |  100 comments

Sebastian Vettel made it four pole in four races, by setting the fastest time in qualifying for the Turkish Grand Prix, doing only one run in the final part of qualifying. It is his 19th career pole position and he is the first man to take the first four poles of the year since Mika Hakkinen in 1999.


His Red Bull team mate Mark Webber was second on the grid, four tenths behind, but ahead of Nico Rosberg, the first time a Mercedes driver has been in the top three this season.

All three men saved a new set of soft tyres for the race, as the teams evolve their thinking on how to trade off qualifying against race strategy.

Once again the Red Bull’s downforce which allows it to use the DRS rear wing in places where others couldn’t consider it, gave Red Bull a gain. This is a gain they won’t have in the race.

In Q1 Kamui Kobayashi had a problem with the fuel system, which meant he didn’t set a time. Lotus set the pace among the cars that dropped out, Kovalainen again had the edge over Trulli, but the Italian didn’t have the DRS wing working.

Tonio Liuzzi almost got the better of Virgin team, but Jerome D’Ambrosio managed to pip him at the end by almost 2/10ths.

Timo Glock has had a very difficult weekend with new parts on his car not working out, losing him track time and he was forced to revert to old parts for qualifying, so he was outqualified for the second race in a row.

Of the front runners, Massa used a set of soft tyres in Q1, a curious decision as Kobayashi was already out so with him plus the six new team cars set to drop out, there was no need to waste a set of softs. He had a precautionary engine change just before qualifying. Meanwhile Alonso did a time just 3/10ths slower on the hard tyre, despite the soft being worth one second a lap.

In Q2 Paul di Resta did just one run at the end of the session, to save tyres for the race. It meant that Adrian Sutil outqualified him for the first time this season.

It was the best qualifying of the season so far for Williams; Rubens Barrichello almost got the car into the top ten, losing 10th right at the end to Nick Heidfeld.

Pastor Maldonado was half a second slower than his team mate in 14th place.

In Q3 the Red Bulls had a comfortable margin, but there was plenty of intrigue behind with Nico Rosberg fulfilling expectations from Mercedes’ practice performance to grab third place ahead of Lewis Hamilton, his best starting position since Malaysia 2010.

Much of Mercedes’ progress has come from working on set up, getting the tyres working and also from running in cooler conditions, as we saw in China. In Malaysia the team had to cut holes in the bodywork for cooling, which cut the downforce level.

Ferrari were 8/10ths off the pace of the Red Bull pretty much where they were expected to be from practice. Alonso amazingly kept up his record of qualifying 5th for every race this year.

Kobayashi will be worth watching tomorrow. He used up none of his new soft tires in qualifying, and also is in the fastest car in a straightline.

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  1. Ed says:

    So is Massa’s engine the one that he used all through Australia, Malaysia and China?

  2. goferet says:

    Meh a Red Bull one – two how exciting.

    Anyway congratulations to Sebastian Vettel on yet another pole making it 4 out of 4 but for the race win, I can’t see anybody else but Webber winning in Turkey besides he was robbed of a race win last year when Vettel rammed into his side

    Also the fact that apart from 2009, the winner of the Turkish Grand Prix doesn’t go on to win the WDC, I would say Webber has this covered.

    Congratulations also to Rosberg for sticking that Merc on the second row, this can only mean the season has just become more complicated

    With Mclaren going for a two run, in qualifying, I guess this means Turkey will mainly be a two pit-stop race for the top guys.

    Looking forward to seeing Kobayshi come through the pack like a man possessed, the only worry is the first bend is so much like Interlagos – Short, step & downhill, am afraid it might catch out a few

    Anyway, I don’t know why, but I don’t think tomorrow will be quite as exciting as Turkey 2010 or China 2011.

  3. FormulaWindTunnel says:

    i think FIA/FOM won’t be that happy seeing the top team (RBR) chose not to go out in a critical phase of the qualy to save tires? Merc also did one laps and others perhaps didn’t go all out for the second laps i guess…
    how would this improve the show if this keeps happening and other teams do the same?

    we might as well scrap the qualy altogether and save the tires and engines ;)
    what next? reduce the number of laps in the race to half?

    1. ACB says:

      I don’t think that’s any different than a top team waiting till the last five minutes of a session to go out.

  4. PaulL says:

    Rain expected for the race? Hope it stays dry.

  5. frosty says:

    Can’t understand why McLaren sent their drivers out for a second run in Q3. I don’t think pole was within their drivers today and P.2 on the grid is the dirty side. So what was the gain?
    Having the spare fresh tyres + decent starting position was the better choice, as Red Bull lose a lot of their advantage in race pace, s not going to flay away at the start….
    Didn’t they see Webber go from 18th – 3rd (and potentially win) last race? Bad strategy call i think.

    1. Julian says:

      Well how were McLaren to know they would end up 4th and 6th, especially when Rosberg popped up to 3rd in the dying moments?

      As Lewis said, he felt his win in China wasn’t really down to him saving a set of tyres and was basically due to doing a 3-stopper.

    2. dzolve says:

      Are you SURE their final runs were on new fresh tyres?

  6. Les says:

    James, I’ve followed F1 for years, and have never got to grips with one thing, which is why you have ‘ruined’ a set of softs by doing just three laps (out, quali, in)?

    I can understand that you have shortened their life, and have perhaps taken more than three laps worth out because of on the limit driving, but if a set is able to last fifteen laps, surely the used set can still be good for 11 or so laps? Granted the strategy may dictate you want a set for longer than that, but the way everyone talks it’s like they bin the tyres afterwards.

    They have to start the race on the tyres they do the fastest lap on so clearly this isn’t the case, but is the use in Quali so prejudicial?

    I’d appreciate an article dedicated to just how the tryes degrade, the physical effects and some graphical aids to how they drop away – any chance?

    1. ACB says:

      “Ruined” meaning they’ve achieved their peak performance. This is probably more critical in qualifying than in the race, in as much as they will be starting with a full fuel load so the times ten to start high and then go down as fuel burns off, so 1-15 laps on an option tyre may not have the same effect. But running scrubs this year probably isn’t a good idea.

  7. Tery James says:

    Really can’t understand why McLaren went for a 2 run Q3 strategy, when it became clear in China that saving tyres is critical in qualifying. Obviously it is easier in hindsight, and it wasn’t inevitable that neither driver improved their position. However the potential gains at the end of the race are so significant regardless of this.

    Lewis was obviously annoyed that McLaren had used an additional set – could his continuing frustration with the team strategy, or rather his inability to influence it, drive him out of the team?

    1. Sossoliso says:

      Most never try to understand McLaren decisions.. It is bad for your health.

    2. PaulL says:

      So that they wouldn’t lose any positions to say Rosberg – which they did.

    3. Pit straight weaver says:

      I remember during the BBC’s coverage last year sometime they did a link to DC sitting in the Mclaren ‘control room’ or whatever it’s called, back at the MTC, loads of youngish nerds sitting at PCs – quite weird. They might all be maths or engineering grads but as we know they get it wrong so often the team really might as well leave the decision-making to a single senior figure (team principal, perhaps? – the clue’s in the title…) and they’d almost certainly not do any worse over the course of a season. That thing with DC in the room with those guys really sticks in my mind because it did make me wonder what F1 has come to from where it was back when I really began watching in the early 80s – comical, the guys sitting there, with their ‘team’ clothing and the identical (as Clarkson puts it) tyre-fitter haircuts – even DC had a ‘get me outta here’ expression the whole time.

    4. Conrad M. Sathirweth says:

      If he disagrees with the team decisions then he should make his own for once as Button has done in the past. What you don’t do is go with the team decision and then with hindsight complain about it and yet again moan about his team to the media. He seems to have forgotten that the team helped win him the race in China by changing him from a two-stop to a three-stop strategy because he would not of won the race if he had stayed on a two-stopper.

  8. . says:

    4 tenths slower than Vettel with upgrades Vettel doesn’t have.

    Not bad for a second driver.

    Any why is there no outcry by people and the English speaking media now Webber gets updates Vettel doesn’t get?

    1. Miha says:

      What upgrades?

    2. AlexD says:

      What are you talking about?

      1. C-M says:

        It was stated that in the coverage that Webber is running some new parts, mainly around the rear wing area of the car.

        Vettel does not have these due to smashing his car in FP1.

    3. Tom says:

      What are the upgrades Webber has that Vettel doesn’t? The only update I’ve heard about is a new exhaust system which Vettel wrecked on Friday.

      Very good pole lap from Vettel.

    4. Nando says:

      I thought Vettel broke them in FP1?

      1. . says:

        To the ones asking for what updates. They both got the exhaust update and Webber got extra updates for the back of the car which Vettel didn’t get, gaining him a few tenths, Kravitz talked about it too.

        The question you have to ask yourslf is…why wasn’t the media shoving this down your throat, while if it had been Vettel getting them exclusively, all hell would have broken loose.

      2. MikeyB says:

        Indeed he did – during his spinning slide on Friday, all corners of the car took an impact and THAT’S why Mark now has his updates intact and Seb doesn’t.

    5. rodger says:

      Webber, for me, has been one of the worst performers of the year. Vettel has consistently hammered him this season. Granted, he was good in the last race, but it was more down to tyres than skill-and he still finished behind Seb. He used to be the one-lap specialist but now consistently qualifies half a second behind Vettel. Think there are a lot more deserving drivers who could do a better job…

      1. AlexD says:

        “he still finished behind Seb” – sure….he stared 17 places behind him.

      2. rodger says:

        Because he was rubbish in quali…so what’s your point?

      3. Darren says:

        I dont think he has had a great start to the year, mostly due to pretty scruffy races and bad qualifying but he has salvaged some decent points from them which is what its all about.

        Yes Seb is hammering him in quali, but Seb is hammering everyone in quali. All through the weekend there is often nothing to suggest Seb is that much quicker than everyone but on Saturday bam he puts in a lighting lap for pole. Its a god given talent, Senna had it, Hakkinen had it and now it seems Sebs got it. Qualifying extraordinaire.

      4. Simon H says:

        For the first three races Vettel has been able to use KERS most of the time, while Webber hasn’t.

      5. Robwal says:

        Let’s see Vettel come back from eighteenth to third.
        The fact is he could not do it.
        Yes, he is very good leading from the front, while driving the best car in the field (with a functioning KERS), but put him a few places down the starting grid, and he would never recover.

        Webber had the fastest laps for the last two races, driving a car that had no KERS and mechanical/structural faults since the first race this year.

        Put Webber in a same spec car as Vettel’s and he would leave him chewing his dust.
        Red Bull have been sabotaging Webber to ensure no repeat of last year where he was leading the championship up until the last race.
        Where, as we all know, Ferrari pulled Alonso in to cover Webber, which ALLOWED Vettel to win the championship.

  9. MikeyB says:

    Part of Mercedes’ progress may have come from the front wing on Nico’s car, which appeared to work like Red Bull’s controversial design, dipping very close to the track at times.

  10. Matt says:

    Enjoyable content this weekend James.

    Liked reading it far more than a an entry about the practise 1 times.

    Thanks.

  11. Pit straight weaver says:

    Clearly, Red Bull are still WAY ahead. Makes Hamilton’s drive and Macca’s strategy in China look all the more impressive. At this rate Seb’s going to have it all sewn up by mid-summer.

    1. Sean M says:

      Can’t disagree with that By the time ferrari have a car capable of competing it’l be way too late and for all of Lewis’s unreal driving, he’s living off scraps…its all to easy for Vettel, ala Scheury 04.

  12. Ross says:

    Jerome D’Ambrosio has performed quite well in comparison to Timo Glock. He had a pretty unspectacular GP2 career is it just a case of him finding his feet and performing very well or has Timo Glock lost motivation?

    It must be very hard for him knowing he is now stuck in worst car on the grid. Stick him in a Torro Rosso or a Williams I don’t doubt he would be quicker than their current drivers. You could argue he would be doing a better job than the number two’s at Mercedes and Renault.

    1. Martin says:

      My impression is that Glock is a better race driver than qualifier. I haven’t checked his GP2 results, but in the Toyota he was generally several tenths behind Trulli fuel adjusted.

      You do get drivers that are good at driving F1 cars even though they are unremarkable in other series. Kobayashi is in F1 due to his nationality, but now that he is here, it is clear that he is competitive, and with experience could have a long F1 career.

      You get drivers like Bourdais who won in GP2 (after Enge failed drug test) and dominated ChampCar, but struggled in F1. The comment I recall was that Toro Rosso felt he was “behind the car” i.e. that his ‘brain speed’ was too slow for modern F1 cars. Jerome is possibly fine in this area, helping his qualifying speed.

  13. Rich C says:

    James don’t you think it compromises their race setups, using the DRS anywhere they like in qualifying?

    1. efBir says:

      Not set-up but 7th gear ratio hence low straight line speed.

      See, most of teams hit limiter on the back straight when using DRS giving a clue that they compromised their quali straight line speed in order to be faster in the race given that they won’t be using DRS unless the obvious condition arises.

    2. Darren says:

      Its more the other way around, their race set up compromises the qualifying set up. If you set it up so that it could hit the limiter without DRS in the race then having DRS would be pointless. If you set it up so that its on the limiter in quali with DRS open then you will suffer in the race as with it closed you will be no where near the rev limiter (top speed) as the F1 engines produce their peak power at the very top of the rev range.

      Its a compromise, how much of an advantage do you want DRS to give you? The bigger the advantage the slower you will be the rest of the time.

      Incidently these engines were originally designed to rev to 20k RPM so even when hitting theur limiters now a days they are no where near their potential peak power.

  14. Miha says:

    Does anyone know what is the situation with RBs KERS after this three week break? Is it running ok, did they have any problems in practice?

    1. MikeyB says:

      Still troublesome apparently, despite pre-practice assurances to the contrary from Helmut Marko. If it isn’t working properly in the race, methinks Lewis will make things interesting for the Red Bull duo.

      1. James Allen says:

        Apologies for problems accessing the site overnight. We had a plug-in issue

  15. Tom in adelaide says:

    You’ve been on fire with the articles this week JA!

    Seems like designer stubble is the fashion in the paddock right now. Poor old schumi seems to struggle in that department.

    Oh yes, qualifying.. Not much to say really is there? Time to start the rain dance….

  16. Michael S says:

    Brialliant job Vettel… The best car/driver combo in years

  17. Alan Dove says:

    Wasn’t Turkey a good race for Mercedes last year? Both Schumacher and Rosberg weren’t too far off the pace in 2010 here last year.

  18. Nesto says:

    I never understood why the DRS is allowed to be used anywhere and anytime during practice and quali, considering it’s implementation was written into the rules to help overtaking during a race in a single, designated location.

    After 4 quali sessions and seeing the RBRs sit in the garage in the final minutes of Q3, supremely confident (at least in Vettel’s case) of holding pole, shouldn’t the banning the use of DRS except during the race be contemplated, if not, put into place ?

    1. Martin says:

      I think the view is that in qualifying the cars should be a fast and as on-edge as possible. This is probably good for Pirelli too as it sugggests the tyres, which were thought to be slower than the Bridgestones as well as less durable late last year.

      Red Bull sitting out the last run is tactical based on tyres and has little to do with DRS. Red Bull just has a higher downforce car that translates into qualifying performance. Downforce leads to increased tyre wear, so the advantage is less in the race. If a team has performance advantage, it has to think about how to use it. The Pirelli tyres are marginal and so setting a time and then seeing what others are doing and having time to react is a wise way to go.

      1. rossco says:

        Martin I was under the impression that increased downforce leads to less tyre wear not more?

      2. Martin says:

        Hi Rossco,

        your view seems to be commonly held on this site, but I believe (very confidently) that it is incorrect.

        The first thing to realise is why a tyre wears. This is quite simply due to the surface of the tyre being dragged across the bitumen. If you imagine a tyre that is rolling perfectly straight, the contact patch is still. If the car is going around the bend, the tyre is having its contact patch twisted. This movement causes wear around any corner. The wear is proportional to the force on the tyre. Imagine running your finger across sandpaper: the hard you push the more skin you will take off.

        So if you two cars going around a corner at the same speed, with neither sliding, then the car with greater weight on the tyres will wear the tyres more. The increased downforce will allow one car to go around the corner faster, increasing the wear as the greater speed increases the downforce.

        Increasing downforce will help traction, so in certain situations this will help rear tyre wear, but driver skill is a bigger factor here.

        Where your belief may have come from is impact of aerodynamics on car balance. If the car has an oversteering or understeering condition then one end of the car will be sliding. That will increase wear.

        The wings on a car are at the extremities. This means that the wings have a stabilising effect in a similar way to a dumbell resisting rotational inertia. Therefore if a car is unbalanced, a driver is more likely to seek additional downforce at the low grip end than take it off, as the handling is likely to be less stable in low downforce condititions.

        Jacque Villeneuve was one driver who favoured lower downforce setups. His driving style involved turning into a corner quite late, which meant he did more braking in a straight line so stability was less of an issue. The lower downforce helped straightline speed and the reduced tyre wear gave him a performance gain over the course of a race. At Williams, Villeneuve then used harder springs in his set up, which can hurt tyre wear.

        The Red Bull-McLaren performances last year were a clear example of the relative benefits of a strong engine and F-duct versus great downforce. The Red Bull has almost always on pole, but the advantage shrank in the race dramatically. This isn’t a driver skill thing, it was just a case that the Red Bull drivers had to look after the tyres to a greater degree, to ensure they lasted.

    2. Darren says:

      If you have it on the car why not use it? I think part of the reason was to introduce the compromise on top speed / max revs in top gear.

      It makes the cars faster in quali which is good for the spectacle.

      I think it introduces another element of driver skill / bravery. Who has got big enough balls to open the wing half way through a corner etc.

  19. Setay says:

    Hello James – Key info that must interest every brain washed F1 fan.

    The key info: I’d like when trying to understand the difference in lap times is the distance. i.e. in Turkey what does 0.5 of a second mean in car length. Is it one whole length of a car in front at the line or two?.
 Kind regds Setay

    1. Russel says:

      Since Vettel’s pole lap was very close to averaging 140mph, then .5 second equals 102 feet!

    2. tank says:

      about 35 m @ 250 km/h

    3. Tom in adelaide says:

      I’ve always thought a graphic showing the pole winner hitting the finish line and then the relative track positions of all the other cars would be great. Sometime i struggle to decipher graphs.

    4. Martin says:

      Hi Setay,

      It depends on where you are on the track. An F1 car is about 5 metres in length. If you know the speed at a given point on the track then to get metres per second, divide the km/h by 3.6. Then multiply the speed by the time gap and you will have the distance between the two cars (nose of one to the nose of the other).

      Vettel’s lap was an average speed of 225.9 km/h. This is 62.7 m/s. Therefore a 0.5 second margin would be an average gap of 31 metres.

      At the Red Bull’s top speed in qualifying of 312 km/h the 0.5 second gap would be 43 m. If in the race the Red Bulls are doing 300 km/h at the end of the straight and a Ferrari or McLaren was in the DRS zone on the limiter doing 319 km/h then the closing rate would be 5.3 m/s. That would be the maximum closing rate, so out of turn ten which is a 200 km/h corner, the 0.5 second gap would be 56 m, so the following car would need 11 seconds of DRS assistance to get by with a 5.3 m/s advantage. The reality is that as the car in front will initially get away under acceleration, the gap will grow further in distance for much of the run to the turn 11 kink. Therefore the following car is likely to need to be closer to 0.2 tenths behind mid-corner of turn 9 and then have a very good run out of 10 to have a chance of making a pass.

      Cheers,

      Martin

  20. Setay says:

    Hello James,

    The key info I’d like when trying to understand the difference in lap times is the distance. i.e. at Sepang what does 0.5 of a second mean in car length. Is it one whole length of a car in front at the line or two?.
 Kind regds Setay

    1. OldIron says:

      It depends on the speed – 100 mph means you travel about 45 metres in a second. An F1 car is (roughly) 4 1/2 metres long, so 1/2 second and 100mph is about 5 lengths

  21. Tommy K. says:

    So, the actual gap between RB and the rest is 3-4 tenths…still, quite a gap I would say. However, if they hit trouble with their KERS again, they could be in a fight…should be interesting!

  22. sender says:

    There seems to be some lack of excitement after the qualifiying. At least, in the way the qualifying is presented.
    A lot of people inside and outside of paddock talk about Red Bull and their run for poles like it is a guarantee and nothing can change it. The reality is really like that but that does not generate more interest in the sport.
    One more thing – qualifying is becoming like the art of saving tyres for the race. It is hard to say whether it is rather good or not.
    One more thing to add – there is almost no fight at Red Bull because Mark Webber seems unable to match Vettel and he seems to be mystified about the gap. It would be more interesting if Red Bull drivers would have some more competition between them.

  23. sender says:

    To the earlier comments I would like to add – the tyres themselves are OK and they provide very good racing, but the situation in qualifying (where some drivers do limited running and try to save extra tyres for the race) is a very debatable thing.

  24. Oliver says:

    Hi james,

    Is it against the regulations in any way, for mclaren to “clean up” lewis and jensons side of the grid overnight when the tracks not in use. Im sure they could sweep, wash and brush from p6 up to the start line, into a state where its not too much of a disadvantage to start on the even numbers. Is this possible?

    1. James Allen says:

      Don’t know, don’t see why not, but bear in mind there will be GP2, GP3 and god knows what else on track tomorrow before the GP so the dirty side will be dirty anyway so not worth it

      1. terryshep says:

        Definitely not allowed in MotoGP, James. Wasn’t Valentino disciplined one year because his team did just that, the night before the GP?

  25. Andras F. says:

    Sorry this is a corrected version of my comment:

    James,
    I have a question relating to the Friday morning practice session. As I have seen in the live timing data the air temperature was just 11°C which is quite cold.
    Are the drivers have different clothing under their racing suits to cope with the high and low temperatures? Is the cockpit giving them enough protection against the wind?
    Thanks,

    1. James Allen says:

      No, it’s pretty hot in the cockpit, so no need for that!

  26. giorgio0078 says:

    RB’s vanity was quite cynical (in good sense of this word) towards other teams in Q3, just to say: ok ‘kids’, go play puppets, let’s go and fight with each other, anyway you are beyond mine..

  27. Ben says:

    Can Massa start on new tyres for the race as he didn’t set a time in Q3?

  28. ACB says:

    First the rest had the demoralizing thought that Red Bull were taking poles and podiums without a reliable KERS, now they’re in the box and out of the car with a minute left in Q3.

    BTW, what was up with Felipe? Did he have more trouble with his car? Were they wanting just a little more time with it before it hit parc ferme? I can’t imagine they chose to keep him in just because he used a set of options in Q1.

  29. Paul Mc says:

    Again the key to making this race exciting and not a walk in the park for Vettel will be Nico getting in front of both Red Bulls. If he doesnt then i fear its a fight for 3rd place.

    Schumi looked really ticked off after quali his car looked all over the place. He has made at least 4 grid places in every race so far so he will be looking to pounce at the start again.

  30. Mike says:

    Vettels finger is beginning to really irritate. Redbull have a fundamental advantage which I cannot fathom. I’m annoyed!!!

    1. Martin says:

      If Valentino Rossi is the Doctor, is Vettel the Proctologist? Or just the Specialist?

      The advantage isn’t too hard to work out. The car generages more downforce from the underside than any other on the grid. This has a much lesser drag penalty than drag from the wings.

      How Red Bull does it is anoter matter.

  31. AlexD says:

    Can anybody explain why did Massa not set a time in Q3?

    1. James Allen says:

      He made a mistake on his first run and decided not to waste another set of tyres doing a second run.

      1. ACB says:

        Thanks James, I’m very interested to see how he does. He’s always underestimated, but I think he’s a rather quick study, and is learning his best tyre strategy.

  32. Ginger says:

    I would rather see someone other that Seb on pole I must say, good job but the season needs more than one contender.

    And I agree that the famous finger is annoying.

    Lewis made a mistake in going out twice in Q3, he would have been better not going out at all, he would have been on the clean side in 9th and have lots of softs……

    1. ACB says:

      Well.. you know what they say about hindsight. Lewis is always one to push and that’s why we like him.

  33. Dee says:

    How does Kobayashi go not having set a time in quali? He falls foul of the 107% rule, have the stewards offered him special consideration based on a FP time ?

    1. dingbat says:

      They consider times made during FP1, 2 and 3 and if any of his times from there are within the 107% rule then an exception can be made. This rule is there specifically for situations like Kobayashi’s as it would be unfair not to allow someone to race simply because their car broke down in Q1.

  34. Bevan says:

    I’m surprised Vettel is this quick as it appears to me he has a problem with his right index finger,it keeps sticking up in the air,surely this affliction should slow him down somewhat.

  35. Benson Jutton says:

    “MAGIC PADDLE MICHAEL!”

    fantastic

  36. Jose - Perth says:

    Sebastian is doing very, very well. It is incredible how he changed over the last year and most notably this year. A lot more mature attitude, very relaxed, showing signs of good humour. And the driving on a hot lap – sublime!
    Lets not forget Mark is no slosh when it comes to quali.
    In the Hamilton vs Sebastian duel I am now inclined to see Sebastian on top in the long run and achieving some amazing successes.

  37. Pit Straight Weaver says:

    Are Adam Parr and FW related at all? On today’s BBC qualy coverage they showed an interview with Parr and, ignoring his rather camp voice and hair-flicking, I thought he looked stunningly similar to the young Frank. Never noticed this before, but today it really struck me – is there a family link?

  38. george says:

    Kobayashi has been very slow compared to his teammate this weekend. Why is that? Neary 2s slower in FP2 and a second slower in FP3.
    His comment after qualifying was pessimistic. Or just cautious?

  39. peter says:

    Schumi..EPIC fail once again. Man, this is now beyond depressing. His performances get even me down and i’m not even that much of a fan. Please retire, PLEASE, like now.

  40. Mark V says:

    Webber was way behind Vettel again, and yet he didn’t seem as disappointed as he was earlier this season, and one of his engineers actually congratulate him so is there any meaning behind this?

    1. Robwwal says:

      Mark is driving a inferior car and is still in touch with Vettel.
      That is why those that support him within Red Bull congratulate him.
      It appears he has accepted that for this year, at least until his contract ends, but will move on to a new team next year.

      1. Robwwal says:

        I hope he moves on to a new team.
        It would be a great shame for F1 to lose a driver/person like Mark Webber.

      2. Mark V says:

        Webber is driving an inferior car? How so? I was not aware of this. I’d like to see Webber win at least one championship since I believe he has more guts and determination than any driver in F1.

  41. snailtrail says:

    James it would be interesting to hear your opinion on the difference in times between Vettel and Webber in quali and how this seems to have changed from last year – Webber is behind and by a bigger margins – is it:

    1 – Webber is losing it
    2- – The weight difference between the rivers (where the ballast is placed)
    3 – The new car suits Vettel’s driving style
    4 – None of the above – something else?

    1. James Allen says:

      I’ve answered this elsewhere – it’s to do with the way both drivers work the tyre over a lap. These Pirellis suit Vettel better in quali, but Webber can match him in race conditions, I think, even if he is a little harder on the tyre. Remember Webber was particularly good in quali with the Michelins. It’s one of those fine detail things

  42. brooksy007 says:

    I know vettel has been outperforming webber in quali this season, but the first 3 races webber had car problems.

    James – I’d like to know what webbers approach was to Q3 in turkey; was it a more conservative run to set a relatively quick time, while conserving the tires for tomorrows race?

    Because there is little point in getting pole if you have flat spotted your tires!

    1. James Allen says:

      I think Seb can just get more out of these Pirelli tyres on a single lap than Mark, it’s just dynamics, driving style etc. but Mark is on a par with him in race conditions and that’s where the prizes get handed out

  43. MISTER says:

    And here we will have another Rosberg (which I rly like tbh) playing the cards for RedBull today.
    He is going to be slow on race pace and Vettel and Mark will shoot ahead, leaving Lewis, Alonso (hopefully he will get a good start) and Jenson way behind with no chance of chatching the RB.

    To be honest, if this is the scenario after 2 laps, I might just go watch a movie or something. I wish Rosberg would be as fast in the race as he is in qualy.

    Cheers!

    1. dingbat says:

      Well after seeing the race i would say you were pretty spot on with this comment except for one small detail…Rosberg did indeed help Vettel with a creating a substantial gap however he held Webber back so it didn’t help both Red Bulls…but good call none the less. It must be said though that Webber and Alonso managed to get by him pretty quickly but by that time the damage was done..

  44. C-M says:

    James

    Excellent writting as always, but what i would really like to see, is a regular slot where you post up your predictions for the race (top 3).

    Kind of like Mark Lawrenson does for football on the BBC and Steve Parish does for MotoGP. It’s a little thing, but I feel would really add something to you qualifying/pre race report.

    Additional value would be created if you also pitted yourself against another F1 expert each week, just for fun of course. The loser having to donate a small amount to charity.

  45. Syed says:

    Hi, James, I’d be glad to know how many sets of tyres did Alonso use in qualifying. or should i say does alonso have a new set of tyres left for today’s race given that he aborted his second run? pls pls clarify

  46. Syed says:

    Hi, James, I’d be glad to know how many sets of tyres did Alonso use in qualifying. or should i say does alonso have a new set of tyres left for today’s race given that he aborted his second run?

    does Fernando have an advantage over the Mclarens given that they used both their soft sets of tyres while the red bulls, nico rosberg and a few others did just one run?

  47. adam h says:

    5th is not amazing james! not for a driver who many say is the most complete! laughable

  48. brooksy007 says:

    Hey james, thanks for the reply mate! Always enjoy your website as I visit it everyday! Cheers mate.

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