Comments on: Alonso wins German Grand Prix as Ferrari tell Massa to move over

By: G

Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:25:09 +0000

I know this is extremely delayed, but I’m going to comment anyway.

Fernando wasn’t blackmailing Ron to get number one treatment (and he has said frequently he just wanted equal treatment, however the two sides of the story are both very different, who knows who’s telling the truth?) he was blackmailing him to get OUT of the Mclaren team on HIS terms. By that stage, he’d already decided to leave. No really, look it up. Not justifying him trying to blackmail Ron, I’m just saying.

And crashgate? He was hardly the one who orchestrated it. Yes, he took a questionable win, but dont think that any other driver in his position wouldn’t have. He’s no saint, but he’s hardly the worst there.

Alonso is such a bad driver that he “can’t mount a championship challenge without a slow teammate”? Mounting a championship challenge at all (and winning twice, i might add) definitely implies that he is more than a competent driver.

By: mtb

mtb — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:22:42 +0000

Perhaps you can reconcile the following with what happened at Hockenheim 2008.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85589

Pure hypocrisy.

By: mtb

mtb — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:15:13 +0000

Whitmarsh said that he didn’t want to comment on the issue and then came up with some self-righteous innuendo.

Surely the best thing would have been not to have said anything at all.

“…they raced how they raced” – well Mr Whitmarsh, we had a glimpse into how McLaren raced at the beginning of last season.

And he has said more since then.

Button was being very smug and self-righteous during his interview. Of course he has never been guilty of any transgressions.

By: Digger

Digger — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:55:36 +0000

You are so right !
Ferrari always said the team is important not the single driver. The drivers have to be team players. Here I cannot understand the way Massa acts : as a team player ? definately not. I like Massa,but this time I am not on his side. Any how people would have appreciate Massa’s great performance, no doubts.
Alonso anyhow would have tried to pass him, taking the risk of a crash, but I honestly think he finally would have passed him. And that was the dilemma of Ferrari : Massa had a terrible accident, what when a second happen to him ??? Seeing Alonso ready to try all, they finally prefer to take a safer way, that is what I think.
An do not forget that , at the moment when many people had the opinion Massa should be replaced by another driver in the season 2010, Ferrari shows that they still believe in him and gave him a contract for 2 YEARS.
That is also why I cannot follow MASSA’s
action.

By: murray

murray — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:15:36 +0000

So Whitmarsh said he didn’t want to give his opinion publicly and you consider this ‘appalling behaviour’? Each to his own I guess…..

I watched Button’s interview in the BBC post race coverage, and I have re-watched it online in light of your comments. He too refused to comment (when asked, so I don’t see how he was trying to distract from his own performance as you allege) other than to say he would be ‘interested to see the overtake’. Can you provide a link to where he said anything more than that? Again, I don’t see the ‘appalling behaviour’.

By: Robert Powers

Robert Powers — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:30:09 +0000

Now it is not like Ferrari does not have a long history in motorsport-Felipe Massa is quite aware of that history.

He has been there a long time,has read as well as signed his contracts.

Vebbull closed in near the end because of Massa’s lack of pace as the laps wound down.

By: mtb

mtb — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:12:23 +0000

At the very same circuit two years ago, McLaren informed Kovalainen that Hamilton was faster than him. Kovalainen duly move aside and gave up his position to Hamilton.

Here is what Ron Dennis said about the incident.

“It was a tremendous sporting gesture and it’s what being in a racing team is about. True team-mates do these things because that’s the way they are.”

Luca is right – “…enough of this hypocrisy”.

By: RaulZ

RaulZ — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:32:26 +0000

Well, suggestions of saving fuel were said only to Webber, not to Vettel, so it looks as if the team wanted Vettel to pass Webber. Probably Webber would never have let him pass, as he did.

I think those were team orders, and please, stop trying to convince everybody that they are different situations.

By: RaulZ

RaulZ — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:22:01 +0000

It never was a sport, it was and it is a competition. A bit diferent.

By: RaulZ

RaulZ — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:00:25 +0000

Those were clear Team orders, my friend. But they didn’t want to obey. Button didn’t. When those words were said to Webber, and weren’t to Vettel, Webber did’t obey aswell. Massa obeyed, but later he seemed to have repented.