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The latest on Schumacher’s new engineer at Mercedes
Posted By: James Allen  |  04 Jan 2010   |  7:35 pm GMT  |  110 comments

I’ve had a lot of enquiries in the last few days about who will engineer Michael Schumacher at Mercedes. Many people wanted to know which of the two Brawn engineers he might get or whether Michael would be hiring in one of his ex Ferrari engineers.

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I’ve contacted the team and the answer is that Schumacher will work with Andrew Shovlin, who engineered Jenson Button to the world championship last season. I’m sure they will get on well, Shovlin is experienced, calm and very intelligent. He’s a real family man and a very nice person, as well as a fiercely competitive individual. He’s 36, hails from Liverpool and was Button’s engineer for six seasons.

Nico Rosberg will be engineered by Jock Clear, who steered Jacques Villeneuve to the 1997 world championship with Williams. Clear is also extremely competitive and this will make for an interesting dynamic as Rosberg certainly did not expect to be sharing Mercedes with Schumacher when he signed on the dotted line in Autumn of last year and it could go either way for him. If he’s overshadowed it could affect him badly, but if he beats Schumacher it will raise his stock immensely.

This is probably a sound choice as Clear and Villeneuve developed quite an aggressive attitude towards Schumacher in 1997 leading up to the infamous clash at the final race in Jerez, when Schumacher attempted to drive Villeneuve off the road.

When I was researching the biography of Schumacher I wrote in 2006, Clear gave me some invaluable insights into their mentality with regard to racing against Schumacher,

‘Jacques and I worked out quite early on that Michael would lose if you put him under a huge amount of pressure, ‘ said Clear, speaking in early 2007. ‘He lost the 1998 world championship to Hakkinen by stalling on the grid. I mean who stalls on the grid for heaven’s sake?

‘It’s that kind of situation where he knows he’s not very good and he does everything he possibly can do to avoid ever being in that situation. Jerez was one of those rare occasions when it was down to ‘me against you’ for the title, on the track. Adelaide was another one, Damon put him under pressure, he lost concentration and hit the wall. In those situations he knows he’s not very good and his coping strategy for that situation is ‘I know I’m going to f** it up but I’ll still come out the winner.’ Adelaide was the right result for him because he won.

‘Jerez was another occasion, he knew he was asleep and he had made a mistake and he knew that Jacques was going to beat him. And he thought, ‘I don’t care what people say, I’m still going to walk away from this one the winner and people will say that even when I get it wrong I still win, so I am unbeatable.’ Because if he had allowed a reputation to develop for being beaten when you put him under pressure, then he’s eroded. But at Jerez it didn’t work and Jacques did beat him and that probably irks him more than any other failure he’s ever had. And it’s astonishing that having had all that time to think about it and come to terms with it, he then did it again in Monaco.’*

This is pretty feisty stuff and I’m sure he said it never imagining for one moment that three years later he would be working with Schumacher on the same team, sitting in a debrief room. But Clear also had an obvious massive respect for Schumacher away from the heat of battle and knows what a competitor he is.

Nevertheless, it was perhaps wise of Ross Brawn to keep them apart with all that history.

* Excerpt from Michael Schumacher: The Edge of Greatness, by James Allen (Headline 2007)

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  1. Renato says:

    Q:”I mean who stalls on the grid for heaven’s sake?”

    A: Rubens? While engineered by a certain Mr. Clear?

    1. Luke Robbins says:

      hahaha.

      Jock Clear sounds like a bit of an idiot.

      1. CTP says:

        well, the excerpt is from early 2007, before rubens’ incident. and jock probably still thinks the same!

    2. Dave says:

      Glad someone else picked up on this as well!

    3. Adrian says:

      Beat me to it..!!

    4. Lilia says:

      Maybe he doesn’t think much about Rubens ether.

  2. Paul Douglas says:

    James, who is Jenson’s new Engineer at McLaren? I assume it’s the same one as Heikki had, but I’ve been having trouble finding anything out about Heikki’s engineers, and I can’t recall hearing Heikki and his race engineer discuss anything in 2009.

    1. Luke Robbins says:

      The lap times said it all….

    2. Kirsty says:

      Mark Slade. Button is getting Team A.

      1. James Allen says:

        Hakkinen’s and Raikkonen’s crew

      2. Louis says:

        Presumably they were also Alonso’s crew, and that’s why Hamilton got “Team B”?

        Awesome story James, never considered about rivalries between other team-members, and Jock will surely give it all he can to support Rosberg in beating Schumacher.

        What about the views that if Rosberg does manage to do that, people will just say Schumacher’s gone old and rusty?

      3. James Allen says:

        He still has the fire in his belly and he has talent to burn, never write off Michael Schumacher..

  3. Carl says:

    Its my recollection that even if shoei had won that last race Mika only needed to come second ? To say he lost the WC is not true.

    1. Kevin Crowley says:

      Nope. They would have been tied on 96 points, 7 wins, and two 2nd places each. Schumi would have won with 3 3rd places to Hakkinen’s 1.

      1. AK says:

        Nope, Hakkinen would have been World Champion with second place in Japan, because that result would have given him 3 second places (Argentina, Silverstone and Japan) to Schumacher’s 2 (Imola and Nurburgring). So he did not lose the title by stalling, he also needed Hakkinen to finish third or lower.

      2. Jomy John says:

        No. Schumacher had to win with hakkinen having to score no better than 3rd place.

  4. Attila Takos says:

    Oh it will be a big battle!!

  5. Lou says:

    What a shame Andy Shovlin wont be joining Jenson at Mclaren. Andy Shovlin, Peter Bonnington and Jenson always seemed to make such a perfect team.

  6. Scott Joslin says:

    The Edge of Greatness is a great read and insightful perspective on Schumacher!

    I think it is wise that they are kept apart, however Clear’s competitive streak and public comments about Schumacher could well make for a frosty atmosphere within the team and makes me wonder if Schumacher is going to be as cooperative with Rosberg’s team as Barrichello was towards Shovlin and Button.

    But it sounds like a love-it compared to what could go off at Ferrari!

    1. James Allen says:

      No I don’t see any problems there. It was years ago. All’s fair in love and war…and F1 !

    2. Racehound says:

      Nothing will go off at Ferrari! Alonso will be no1 and Massa will have to grin and bear it! Alonso wont be making the same errors he made at McmoRons in 07 and Ferrari didnt take Alonso to be no2 to Massa!!! #:)

      1. Maria Felix says:

        They said the same about Alonso when he went to Mclaren. You buy into hype to easily.

      2. Lilia says:

        Yes but unlike Mclaren, Ferrari loves putting number 1 driver roles. So Alonso will get everything he wants.

      3. Nick F says:

        Unless of course Massa beats him. …Or maybe out qualifies him a bit.

      4. Thomas says:

        You wish! Ferrari under Domenicali would never do that. They love Felipe over there.

  7. Babur says:

    Great insight and wonderful stuff there James.

  8. lip_iceman says:

    It is uncanny: I started re-reading the edge of greatness this morning, and after reading what Clear said of Schumacher, I had to laugh at the irony of him now working with Schumacher. And I get to read it again in your blog! crazy coincidence.

    After the Monaco parking incident, I also speculated that a big part of Schumacher not signing with Ferrari might have been because Alonso was going there. Alonso seemed probably the least impressed with MS’s actions that day.

    1. Luke Robbins says:

      is this book still available?

      1. Amritraj says:

        I would like a copy too. Can we order it from your site or do I have to go to Amazon.com et al ?

      2. John F says:

        And of course you are going to re-release it after the 2010 season with another Chapter of Schumacher’s career?

        Would be great!

      3. Michael says:

        Is available in spanish? if not, what a shame.

  9. lynnduffy says:

    Excellent stuff thanks James… am planning to re-read my copy of the Edge of Greatness before the start of the season!

    1. monktonnik says:

      I’ve just finished it again over Xmas. You forget how compelling and well written it is.

      Can’t wait for the 2nd edition!

  10. Freespeech says:

    Sadly I fear Jock will soon find out that Rosberg is simply not from the tip draw and Schumacher will beat his side of the garage hands down :(

    1. Dale says:

      Me thinks you have seen the future :lol:

  11. ashley edwards says:

    Who is going to be Buttons engineer?

    1. James Allen says:

      I’d guess Mark Slade

  12. Jasper says:

    Thanks for that James! Great insight into the psychology of beating Michael Schumacher from someone who knows how. The fact that he’s making his comeback within a whole new environment really does make it an exciting proposition, I don’t think I would have been that bothered if he was in a Ferrari, cos it would have just been more of the same in my opinion.

    James, any news on the launch dates of the teams new cars? Especially the new Ferrari? My friend in Spain just sent me a pic of some event that Alonso attended over the holidays, I’m not sure if it was something to do with Ferrari as there was a pair of team overalls in the pic.

  13. That’s a really intersting insight James, thanks. The ‘in house’ dynamics of this well disciplined team could now be put under even greater pressure, with the now much added desire to beat Jenson and his new team, something that wasn’t on the Brawn radar last year.

  14. Tbgallant says:

    Thanks for the info James. It is this sort of insight that makes following F1 that much more enjoyable.

  15. rpaco says:

    Well James you have just made sure he does not forget what was said!

  16. jose says:

    this is great. I remember in the eighties having to wait weeks to get this kind of info, if you were able to get it at all.
    Now it’s served on request. Thanks a lot james.

  17. Eric Weinraub says:

    Jock Clear’s comments… typical Schu bashing… Given Schus relationship with Ross, I suspect Jock best keep his comments to himself. I would have preferred that have lured Chris Dyer from Ferrari.

    1. Dale says:

      There’s sure to be loads of secret conversations on Jocks side of the pits, hardly good for the team is it :?: :?

    2. Med says:

      Umm… it was an excerpt from James’ book, from a few years back – i.e. he was probably interviewed/chatted with for comments – he’s not suddenly just come out saying about all this.

  18. Nick F says:

    People get emotional in the heat of battle. I’m sure everyone involved understands that. when your on the same team and you’ve worked and sweated together for a result you forget the past. I’m sure Schumacher would have worked fine with Mr Clear if they had been paired together.

    …I can’t help laughing a bit because Barrichello stalled on the grid, or had quite a few bad starts last year.

    …And when Villeneuve left Williams he didn’t exactly have a glittering career.

    I agree with the argument that Schumacher has flaws though because he is after all human and everyone feels pressure, but I don’t see him as someone who especially succumbs. He won too many races and championships for that criticism to stick.

    1. Brace says:

      well, now when i think about it, he pretty much only won the “easy” ones. only time he won in a high pressure situation was:
      1. australia ’94 where we all know what happened.
      2. japan ’03 where he made a complete mess of his race and barely salvaged 7th or 8th place.

      every other championship he won was pretty much clear cut.

      1. Amritraj says:

        Suzuka 2000 wasn’t exactly clear cut. That was high pressure stuff as well.

      2. jose says:

        his best title i would say.

      3. jose says:

        but don’t forget that he didn’t race in 3 gp. If he had, he would have won easy. Damon wasn’t at his driving level.

      4. monktonnik says:

        Clear cut because he won so many races that he was uncatchable.

        I fail to see how that isn’t impressive. Not interesting, but defininately a feat.

  19. John says:

    Very interesting article and a great read. Keep up the good work.

  20. PaulL says:

    James, you had an excellent pitlane interview with Jock Clear straight after the Jerez 1997 race for ITV and he echoed those exact same sentiments. I think Jock said “at the end of the day it was the driver that made the difference, and Micheal cracked exactly the same way as in 1994…”.

    I wonder if with Keke Rosberg and Jock Clear together effectively whether there might be the possibility for some tension if say Michael is uncompromising on the road with Nico or something else.

    1. James Allen says:

      I remember it, yes. He was very pumped up that day.

    2. Stephen says:

      Of course most people, even within Villeneuve’s team, would disagree that the driver made the difference and would accept it was great engineering on Williams’ part that made the real difference.

      1. PaulL says:

        I think Villeneuve drove an inspired race that day. It showed some mental strength too to come back after that disastrous start and failed strategy with Frentzen passing him at turn 1.

        Don’t forget too that the 2nd Ferrari in Irvine finished ahead of the 2nd Williams (in Frentzen) even if Frentzen had slowed himself before his first stop for team strategy. I feel that the Ferrari was quite close in performance to the Williams that day.

  21. joel says:

    why didn’t jensen insist on taking his engineer?

    1. Alexx says:

      becos jenson wants to prove that it was him that won the title, not the team, hence no connection to Brawn whatsoever

      and going up against lewis @ mclaren, will earn him the ultimate praise/glory should he win the title again.

      if he fails tho…

    2. Ed says:

      I think that goes with the statement Jenson made about proving himself in a completely new team. So, logically that would imply without any help from his previous team. Of course, I could be wrong but that’s just the way I see it. I must say I did find it unusual that Jenson hadn’t taken Shov with him (as a lot of drivers these days tend to take their engineers with them).

      On a side note, ‘Michael Schumacher: The Edge of Greatness’ is a really insightful and well written book into the life (both on and off the track of Schumi). Well done and thankyou James, that book made my christmas :)

  22. Matt says:

    Nice Reporting James!

  23. Glen D says:

    To fantastic engineers overseeing a legend and a good up and coming.

    It will certainly be one of the most watched pairings of the season.

    I hope Rosberg can at least match Schmacher adn make some good fights within the team.

  24. Uppili says:

    James,

    With testing miles being limited, how much can the simulator at Brackley help Schumi (or indeed any driver at any of the teams with sim) to get accustomed to the new car in terms of grip, aero, etc?

    1. James Allen says:

      It is becoming important, certainly and most teams have invested heavily in simulators

      1. Ted the Mechanic says:

        I’ve been meaning to ask this question about the simulators for a while now.

        How do the real F1 drivers compare to very good games players? I expect the team’s simulators are more sophisticated than the best games and that there would be limited access to these simulators by Joe Public and that the real drivers probably have the advantage of more “seat” time but I guess other team members may have opportunities to use them as well…

        So there are probably limited comparisons available on team simulators. A more realistic comparison may be how the F1 drivers fare against good players on the latest commercial games?

        You touched on this in your future blog, that maybe in future drivers will be selected based on simulation talent quests. I assume there isn’t a lot of data at this stage on whether a good game player can hop into a real car and drive the wheels off it.

        Hope you don’t mind all the questions James. Your experience and connections at the F1 coal face is a unique and irresistible resource that we (the average F1 armchair fans) are privileged to have available to us.

        The regular updates, insights and speed of moderating and responding to comments is very much appreciated. Thanks.

      2. James Allen says:

        Don’t know how to answer that one other than to say that Anthony Davidson has used a lot of F1 team simulators and when I saw him using the last Playstation F1 game at its launch he seemed pretty good at it. But that may also be because he is a big gamer anyway.

      3. Alexx says:

        Maybe an investigation into the airline industry statistics might assist in providing a baseline.

        Are the best pilots in the air & flying skills also the best pilots in the simulator?

        Comments?

  25. Rocky says:

    Wait, Jacques won the title in ’97 and yet Clear gives an example of ‘tremendous’ pressure in ’98 stalling to know that in ’97?

    I’m not sure which teams DID NOT put pressure on MS? Mclaren? Renault? Williams?

  26. Mike from Medellin, Colombia says:

    I hear that Jock Clear is an ultra competitive man who sees himself as a would-have-been sportsman (in the rugby world).

    I really hope that this streak does not bugger up the team dynamics at Mercedes GP. Schuey is renowned for getting the team working around him and I think that Clear would be a fool to mess with Michael politically.

    I would also guess that Ross Brawn would be much less inclined to put up with petty tit-for-tat behaviour.

    1. James Allen says:

      I don’t think it will be a problem

  27. David S says:

    James,
    You have an excellent insight into Schumacher and must have formulated your own thoughts on his weaknesses over all these years…

    When young Nico picks up the phone (or his Dad!) and asks you for your opinion on Michaels biggest racing weakness what’s your answer!!!

    1. James Allen says:

      Great question – have to think about that. There aren’t too many..

      1. Tim L says:

        O-but you know you are JUST NOT telling…..

      2. Mike from Medellin, Colombia says:

        Michael isn’t a fantastic starter is he James?

    2. Ads21 says:

      Well James touched on it in the article with Jock talking about Schumi being unable to handle the pressure. It’s something Briatore talked about as well, and why he said Alonso was the better driver.

      When you look at all the head to head title finale Schumi has been involved in Adelaide ’94, Jerez ’97, Suzuka ’98 ’00 and ’03 he only won one of them legitimately in the other 4 he cracked under the pressure.

      So the task for Nico is easy, just equal Schumi all season so he gets a title shootout against him. How hard can it be to match Schumi for a a full season?..

      Also something Schumi always had was a team built around him, it would be interesting to see if Nico were to match him early on with Schumi being a bit rusty. Would Schumi be comfortable with a team mate who was allowed to beat him?

  28. Peter says:

    I saw a video on youtube a few months ago of the itv post race analysis of the european grand prix and it had an interview with Clear who said something along the lines like ‘IT DIDN’T WORK THIS TIME MICHAEL’! I wasn’t surprised then at how aggressive he got when Rubens got pole in Brazil last season.

    1. Ads21 says:

      Lol I’ll always remember that radio message in Brazil.

      “Button P14! Vettel P16! WHERE ARE YOU NOW!!”

  29. Chris Chaffers says:

    If Schumacher is as vindictive as Tiger Woods, Jock Clear won’t be engineering at Mercedes very long.

    1. jose says:

      you mean tiger wood’s wife.

      1. Ted the Mechanic says:

        Can you honestly blame her?

  30. Peter says:

    Also being from Liverpool – does he support Everton or Liverpool FC, or neither? I hope he supports the red half!

    1. db says:

      His family live in the North East near Middlesbrough and Andrew went to Secondry school here too i believe.Also near to Rob Smedleys parents.Must be something in the water pity we couldn’t do much with the football team !!

  31. Matthew Dawson says:

    I was wondering if there is a possibility of there being a divide in Mercedes next year?

    Due to Jock Clear’s aggressive attitude (evident when Ruben’s got pole at the expense of Jenson in Brazil) and Rosberg as team mate (Rosberg’s father Keke has been particularly scathing of Schumacher in years gone by), I wouldn’t be too surprised if rifts developed within the team, e.g. someone from the Rosberg camp claiming the team are favouring Michael.

    Do you think there is a chance of there being a so called ‘divide’ James?

    1. Dale says:

      It’s loose loose for Rosberg, he must be gutted and praying Schumacher slips up

    2. jose says:

      for sure not the lovely atmosphere he was used to at ferrari during the winning years.

  32. paxdog57 says:

    An article comparing the various top teams of driver/engineer/team boss combination would be interesting. Concentrating on the top 4 (Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull and Mercedes).

  33. F1 Fan says:

    There is no way of knowing what the dynamics in the team will be until we see some test times.

    I hope there isn’t much between Nico & Scumi and they stay on edge all season which will keep them competitive.

  34. Bloke says:

    I have a feeling that this whole situation will never actually develop into anything negative. I think a natural order will develop and that there will be a general sense of harmony within the team. Schumi will be a little rusty to start with and Rosberg will be keen to impress, but I have a feeling that by the end of the season, the two will be closer together than many think and that they will actually have a good relationship. I dont think Merc will win any titles – I think Mclaren and Ferrari will be fighting over that, but I can see Merc scrapping with Red Bull for 3rd. So – a couple of wins each for Mike and Nico, but a harmonious team.

    1. jose says:

      only if schumacher beats nico, otherwise he will be cold as ice with him. If he is softer than when he started in 1991, or nico is slow, may be they would get along, but then for sure would be the time for him to go for good.

  35. Paul Mc says:

    Michael already admitted Jerez was the biggest regret of his career, watching it at the time Ill always remember Martins reaction “It didn’t work Michael..”

    I don’t see an issue in the team, although each driver and engineer will want to win Mercedes will not want two German drivers at each others throats like Alonso and Hamilton.

    To add to a point raised, in my opinion, Michaels biggest weakness is also his biggest strength..ruthlessness

  36. Stu says:

    Very interesting article James, as ever.

    I do hope that Rosberg isn’t overshadowed by Schumacher to the point that it is detrimental to his career as I do believe he is one of the main up and coming forces in F1 (along with Vettel), and it’d be a shame to loose that because what I still feel is a bit of a publicity stunt by Mercedes/Schumacher.

  37. Andrew Scadden says:

    Off Topic (sorry)

    James despite numerous hints and even sending the link to my girlfriend via email she didnt buy me your book for Christmas (I wonder if any other people suffered the same fate)
    Are there copies still available and are these ones signed? (Through your website)

    Cheers
    Disgruntled of York

    1. James Allen says:

      Shame on her! There are still some signed copies available through the website. If anyone else suffered the same fate then go ahead and order one. At this rate we will run out in a couple of months, it looks like. Bear in mind that this will be an annual series and this is the first edition.

      1. Flintelli says:

        My wife got me my copy for Christmas, the love. I think I need another copy though James! I dare not crease it by reading it! help! Annual series you say! best look after the copy then….

      2. James Allen says:

        Wrap it in cellophane!

    2. jose says:

      dump her. She is not interested in your very basic needs. F1 i mean.

  38. Danny says:

    James, how many race engineers did Schumacher have at Ferrari, and who were they?

    1. James Allen says:

      Luca Baldisseri, Ingnazio Lunetta, Chris Dyer. I think that was it.

  39. Nikolai Currell says:

    I think Jock given the choice would have had Schuey over Villeneuve…who would’nt!!

  40. Darren says:

    “I mean who stalls on the grid for heaven’s sake?”

    Only crappy drivers stall on the grid, like Taki Inoue. Oh, wait …….

    Alain Prost – Quadruple World Champion. He stalled on the grid at the 1993 Hungarian GP, and stalled in the pits several times that year.

    Ayrton Senna – Triple World Champion. He stalled on the grid at the start of the 1988 Japanese GP, and went on to win the race/title!

    Damon Hill – ’96 Champion. He stalled on the grid at the 1993 Portuguese GP!

    And lastly … a Mr “J Villenueve”, the 1997 champ, whos stalled on the grid at the 1999 San Marino GP. Do you need pictorial proof? Here ya go:

    http://www.f1rejects.com/centrale/villeneuve/article/99.jpg

    Well, Jock? o_0

    I hope to see JV back on the grid, because I think he’s a good driver, but he’s only human!

    1. Darren says:

      Oops, the link didn’t work. This link works:

      http://www.f1rejects.com/centrale/villeneuve/

      I agree that Jock is a real competitor and a character … I remember him shouting at the Ferrari guys after Schumi took Frentzen out (Canada 1998)!!

  41. monktonnik says:

    I felt that there was a bit more tension between the garages at Brawn GP last year than is ideal. I understand that there will be competition but I kind of felt that Ruben’s side of the garage were being obstructive and witholding info from JB and Shovelin etc, if not giving the wrong information.

    If they were relying on Jock/Rubens to get the basic setups then this would probably have accounted for some of the qualifying issues in the later part of the season. Althugh to be fair I think you have to wonder about a driver/engineer who can’t get a decent set up out of a car and need to use someone else’s data.

    I remember JB saying ‘even using Ruben’s set up the car wont work for me’. I am sure I am wrong but, “competitive animals know no limits”.

    I really didn’t like Jock Clear’s attitude last year at all, particularly as JB was in the same team.

    Saying that I don’t think that MSC will even notice, but it will be interesting to see if he has any issues with set up in 2010.

    1. James Allen says:

      No, Jock’s a real competitor, a great character.

      1. monktonnik says:

        Fair enough. I are probably feeling jaundiced as a JB and MSC fan.

  42. Mike from Medellin, Colombia says:

    Answer for Jock Clear:

    “Who the hell stalls on the grid for heaven’s sake?”

    ….JACQUES VILLENUEVE at SILVERSTONE 1999!!

  43. epicenter says:

    I think that shumi will be competative and he and rubens are the only two drivers with experience of the pre-refueling style of racing. I would like to see Nico get equal treatment at the team but only the season will tell. Shov is less flappable than Clear and seems to have a more steady approach, I feel that Nico would benifit from his style at a critical point in his career.

  44. Nev says:

    Can you tell me if 2010 season will be broadcast in HD. If you don’t know is there a way you can find out. I’ve searched BBC website and there’s no info. Many thanks

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