Comments on: FIA loses patience with Vatanen http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/ Formula 1 / F1 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:12:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Peter Freemanhttp://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/comment-page-2/#comment-26431 Peter Freeman Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:55:03 +0000 http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=4011#comment-26431 That was changed after Vatanen brought it to attention and opened the court case! They DID plan to number the envelopes! That was changed after Vatanen brought it to attention and opened the court case! They DID plan to number the envelopes!

]]> By: Agohttp://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/comment-page-2/#comment-26364 Ago Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:24:52 +0000 http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=4011#comment-26364 Before the potential trial you already have the judgement ;) Any proof of that? Uganda does not stand in my top list of democratic countries either. ... and Ari has just dropped the case he had put forward in the Paris's TGI... Going to Court and giving up! that tells a lot doesn't it? I like JT but I do not care about who will be elected any of them will be better than Mosley (enough with tht brits everywhere: Ecclestone, Mosley ;) I'm joking...) but I find this violence against Jean Todt unbearable in the end. Before the potential trial you already have the judgement ;) Any proof of that? Uganda does not stand in my top list of democratic countries either.
… and Ari has just dropped the case he had put forward in the Paris’s TGI… Going to Court and giving up! that tells a lot doesn’t it?
I like JT but I do not care about who will be elected any of them will be better than Mosley (enough with tht brits everywhere: Ecclestone, Mosley ;) I’m joking…) but I find this violence against Jean Todt unbearable in the end.

]]> By: Harveyeighthttp://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/comment-page-2/#comment-26357 Harveyeight Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:04:14 +0000 http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=4011#comment-26357 The FIA has not so much lost patience as lost face it would appear. They have backed down over Ari's fairness challenge. The FIA has not so much lost patience as lost face it would appear. They have backed down over Ari’s fairness challenge.

]]> By: Agohttp://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/comment-page-2/#comment-26236 Ago Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:02:43 +0000 http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=4011#comment-26236 They planned? I'm afraid the actual voting procedure (as described on the FIA site) says very clearly "it will not be possible to distinguish the envelopes". No, again the only question is: Why is a club going to vote for Ari or Jean? Because the club believes A or J are best for the job or because the club has an incentive to vote for one of them... They planned? I’m afraid the actual voting procedure (as described on the FIA site) says very clearly “it will not be possible to distinguish the envelopes”.
No, again the only question is: Why is a club going to vote for Ari or Jean? Because the club believes A or J are best for the job or because the club has an incentive to vote for one of them…

]]> By: F1 Kittehhttp://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/comment-page-2/#comment-26178 F1 Kitteh Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:40:37 +0000 http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=4011#comment-26178 I think Ari probably has good intentions, more impartial than Todt and even a better agenda on improving the governance of the FIA, but the way that he seems to be going about it doesn't feel very slick and embarrasses the people that he needs votes from? All the mucking about with the letters and court orders, but Mosley's replies frankly make him look a bit foolish. Overall I would say he would make a wonderful strategiest but needs a front man to sell the program. Its a shame actually, I saw his brief appareance on Inside F1 and he seems to be very intelligent, coherent and totally different from what I was expecting from reading about this from the internet since the campaign began. I think Ari probably has good intentions, more impartial than Todt and even a better agenda on improving the governance of the FIA, but the way that he seems to be going about it doesn’t feel very slick and embarrasses the people that he needs votes from? All the mucking about with the letters and court orders, but Mosley’s replies frankly make him look a bit foolish. Overall I would say he would make a wonderful strategiest but needs a front man to sell the program. Its a shame actually, I saw his brief appareance on Inside F1 and he seems to be very intelligent, coherent and totally different from what I was expecting from reading about this from the internet since the campaign began.

]]> By: josehttp://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/comment-page-2/#comment-26128 jose Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:03:51 +0000 http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=4011#comment-26128 There is a thing he loves much more than money. "Power" it's what keeps him going. They might win this one, it's a matter of time, people are tired of this dictatorship. There is a thing he loves much more than money. “Power” it’s what keeps him going.
They might win this one, it’s a matter of time, people are tired of this dictatorship.

]]> By: " for sure "http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/comment-page-2/#comment-26114 " for sure " Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:10:48 +0000 http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=4011#comment-26114 Amet, thanks for the clarification. In fairness I thought you were being critical of Joe's own position re. reprisals, rather than his view of how the teams might see it. Amet, thanks for the clarification. In fairness I thought you were being critical of Joe’s own position re. reprisals, rather than his view of how the teams might see it.

]]> By: Peter Freemanhttp://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/comment-page-2/#comment-26075 Peter Freeman Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:30:16 +0000 http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=4011#comment-26075 I hope this is ground for further court action, in fact it sounds like criminal charges need to be brought into play and JT should be disqualified from standing! I hope this is ground for further court action, in fact it sounds like criminal charges need to be brought into play and JT should be disqualified from standing!

]]> By: Peter Freemanhttp://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/comment-page-2/#comment-26074 Peter Freeman Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:25:56 +0000 http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=4011#comment-26074 They planned to number the ballot envelopes, so each member would be given their very own 'secret' ballot with their very own PERSONAL number on it so NO ONE could POSSIBLY know who's envelope it was OR who they voted for! They planned to number the ballot envelopes, so each member would be given their very own ’secret’ ballot with their very own PERSONAL number on it so NO ONE could POSSIBLY know who’s envelope it was OR who they voted for!

]]> By: Peter Freemanhttp://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/fia-loses-patience-with-vatanen/comment-page-2/#comment-26068 Peter Freeman Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:06:36 +0000 http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=4011#comment-26068 Ah! Let me help you here: He is trying to force the FIA to hold a free and fair election, something they have never done before.I for one think its quite a good idea actually :) Ah! Let me help you here: He is trying to force the FIA to hold a free and fair election, something they have never done before.

I for one think its quite a good idea actually :)

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