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> <channel><title>Comments on: Stakes raised on all sides in Renault crash-fixing row</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/</link> <description>Formula 1 / F1</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:31:07 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Racing not politics</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/comment-page-2/#comment-18991</link> <dc:creator>Racing not politics</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:14:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3444#comment-18991</guid> <description>he may well get immunity but he won&#039;t get another drive in F1</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he may well get immunity but he won&#8217;t get another drive in F1</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jay</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/comment-page-2/#comment-18869</link> <dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:34:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3444#comment-18869</guid> <description>It&#039;s not because he&#039;s a lawyer, I know plenty of them and they are often too clouded by arrogance to be considered clever. I&#039;m sure Max can be dismantled, but despite many of his questionable decisions and romps, etc, no one has managed to do it!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not because he&#8217;s a lawyer, I know plenty of them and they are often too clouded by arrogance to be considered clever. I&#8217;m sure Max can be dismantled, but despite many of his questionable decisions and romps, etc, no one has managed to do it!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Harveyeight</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/comment-page-2/#comment-18783</link> <dc:creator>Harveyeight</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:57:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3444#comment-18783</guid> <description>A man is what a man does.Mosley&#039;s career has been one of limited success. Or one could, with some justification, say of limited success in avoiding failure.When a friend of mine said something racist my father, a very liberal man, took me to Brick Lane (I seem to remember) to see Mosley father and son politiking for the British Union ultra right-wing party. That was Max&#039;s attempt at entering politics and it ended in pathetic failure, complete and utter. He then took up with March which you can make your own mind up about. But finally he made a move of genius: he became Ecclestone&#039;s Mini Me. Bernie&#039;s not posh like he&#039;s not of average height and he needed someone with access to the establishment and got it with Max.Bernie was the force behind Mosley. Or rather Mosley was there to fill the gaps. Ecclestone got him voted into an unpaid position. Whilst Mosley sat in the background, just doing Bernie&#039;s bidding, things went well, for him anyway, and not too badly for the sport in some aspects.When, for reasons that escape me, Max went his onw way, things just fell apart. It became obvious to me - and I accept it was probably obvious to most before that - at Indygate where Mosley&#039;s intransigence led to a de facto one car race. The damage that did to the sport cannot be properly assessed as it is still going on. Since then it has been scandal after scandal.He took a sport from the pinnacle to where it is today, struggling for existance.It is dangerous to judge a person on how he sounds in interview. The only way is by what he does. And Mosley&#039;s CV is severely wanting. His function with regards to F1 is as rulemaker and enforcer. Not the most difficult job in the world but he manages to make the headlines time and again with his decisions.Under his control F1 - not to mention WTC, WRC, WSC, remember them? - has deteriorated to the stage when it very existence is in doubt. He&#039;s like a prodigal son of an industrious father, but in this case there will be no welcome back.And, just to put matters straight, he qualified as a lawyer. He was not, as far as I can see, a success at it.I&#039;ve worked with people of high intellect, including Lord Hailsham, Donaldson and many other lawyers in the Inner and Middle Temples, and I can say that jealousy is not the emotion they generate. Admiration, awe, loyalty, and more admirations is the norm.If everyone hates Mosley then there is probably a pretty good reason. And it is not because he&#039;s good at Sudoku.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man is what a man does.</p><p>Mosley&#8217;s career has been one of limited success. Or one could, with some justification, say of limited success in avoiding failure.</p><p>When a friend of mine said something racist my father, a very liberal man, took me to Brick Lane (I seem to remember) to see Mosley father and son politiking for the British Union ultra right-wing party. That was Max&#8217;s attempt at entering politics and it ended in pathetic failure, complete and utter. He then took up with March which you can make your own mind up about. But finally he made a move of genius: he became Ecclestone&#8217;s Mini Me. Bernie&#8217;s not posh like he&#8217;s not of average height and he needed someone with access to the establishment and got it with Max.</p><p>Bernie was the force behind Mosley. Or rather Mosley was there to fill the gaps. Ecclestone got him voted into an unpaid position. Whilst Mosley sat in the background, just doing Bernie&#8217;s bidding, things went well, for him anyway, and not too badly for the sport in some aspects.</p><p>When, for reasons that escape me, Max went his onw way, things just fell apart. It became obvious to me &#8211; and I accept it was probably obvious to most before that &#8211; at Indygate where Mosley&#8217;s intransigence led to a de facto one car race. The damage that did to the sport cannot be properly assessed as it is still going on. Since then it has been scandal after scandal.</p><p>He took a sport from the pinnacle to where it is today, struggling for existance.</p><p>It is dangerous to judge a person on how he sounds in interview. The only way is by what he does. And Mosley&#8217;s CV is severely wanting. His function with regards to F1 is as rulemaker and enforcer. Not the most difficult job in the world but he manages to make the headlines time and again with his decisions.</p><p>Under his control F1 &#8211; not to mention WTC, WRC, WSC, remember them? &#8211; has deteriorated to the stage when it very existence is in doubt. He&#8217;s like a prodigal son of an industrious father, but in this case there will be no welcome back.</p><p>And, just to put matters straight, he qualified as a lawyer. He was not, as far as I can see, a success at it.</p><p>I&#8217;ve worked with people of high intellect, including Lord Hailsham, Donaldson and many other lawyers in the Inner and Middle Temples, and I can say that jealousy is not the emotion they generate. Admiration, awe, loyalty, and more admirations is the norm.</p><p>If everyone hates Mosley then there is probably a pretty good reason. And it is not because he&#8217;s good at Sudoku.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Harveyeight</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/comment-page-2/#comment-18778</link> <dc:creator>Harveyeight</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:16:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3444#comment-18778</guid> <description>Sorry, Jed, but I&#039;ve got to disagree with you on a very fundamental level. My feeling is that you haven&#039;t been paying attention to what&#039;s been going on in the FIA since 1994. You say that the WMSC will lose all credibility.That was years ago. It&#039;s running on empty.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Jed, but I&#8217;ve got to disagree with you on a very fundamental level. My feeling is that you haven&#8217;t been paying attention to what&#8217;s been going on in the FIA since 1994. You say that the WMSC will lose all credibility.</p><p>That was years ago. It&#8217;s running on empty.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rossetto</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/comment-page-2/#comment-18772</link> <dc:creator>rossetto</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:44:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3444#comment-18772</guid> <description>He is just a lawyer.
Nothing to get too excited about, Jay.
He can also be dismantled to pieces.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is just a lawyer.<br
/> Nothing to get too excited about, Jay.<br
/> He can also be dismantled to pieces.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JohnBt</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/comment-page-2/#comment-18771</link> <dc:creator>JohnBt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:44:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3444#comment-18771</guid> <description>1-It will be a Mosley vs Flavio scenario. One last chance for MM to vent his power. Look at what happened to Ron Dennis.2-(Reading between the lines, Mosley is suggesting that Renault’s case will need to find more for their defence in the material due shortly.)3-Renault&gt;guilty as above.4-Anyway, Nelson P is no racing driver, just another richman spoilt son. The true meaning of throwing toys out of the pram. Anybody who hires NP must be really stupid, unless an envelope is slipped....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1-It will be a Mosley vs Flavio scenario. One last chance for MM to vent his power. Look at what happened to Ron Dennis.</p><p>2-(Reading between the lines, Mosley is suggesting that Renault’s case will need to find more for their defence in the material due shortly.)</p><p>3-Renault&gt;guilty as above.</p><p>4-Anyway, Nelson P is no racing driver, just another richman spoilt son. The true meaning of throwing toys out of the pram. Anybody who hires NP must be really stupid, unless an envelope is slipped&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Martin Collyer</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/comment-page-2/#comment-18770</link> <dc:creator>Martin Collyer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:22:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3444#comment-18770</guid> <description>Interesting points Jed.  Are you/were you in the legal profession?Do you think it&#039;s likely that Piquet&#039;s testimony will be considered that of an &quot;unreliable witness&quot;?  He has admitted to being in a fragile state of mind.&quot;At the time of this conversation I was in a very fragile and emotional state of mind.&quot; is taken from Piquet&#039;s statement to the FIA on Grandprix.com, see http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21798.html.If Piquet is deemed to be an unreliable witness, for the reasons you raise, does that leave him open to prosecution by the FIA, he has plenty of motivation not to tell the truth?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points Jed.  Are you/were you in the legal profession?</p><p>Do you think it&#8217;s likely that Piquet&#8217;s testimony will be considered that of an &#8220;unreliable witness&#8221;?  He has admitted to being in a fragile state of mind.</p><p>&#8220;At the time of this conversation I was in a very fragile and emotional state of mind.&#8221; is taken from Piquet&#8217;s statement to the FIA on Grandprix.com, see <a
href="http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21798.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21798.html</a>.</p><p>If Piquet is deemed to be an unreliable witness, for the reasons you raise, does that leave him open to prosecution by the FIA, he has plenty of motivation not to tell the truth?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hugo</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/comment-page-2/#comment-18769</link> <dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:20:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3444#comment-18769</guid> <description>I think Briatore went too far with his comments about Nelson&#039;s private life,things will become nasty,specially if Nelson Sr open his mouth.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Briatore went too far with his comments about Nelson&#8217;s private life,things will become nasty,specially if Nelson Sr open his mouth.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ian</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/comment-page-2/#comment-18743</link> <dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:53:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3444#comment-18743</guid> <description>I&#039;m sorry I got my information from an interview with Mark himself in the Herald Star in 2008.Have a look at http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/the-woman-who-really-drives-mark-webber/story-e6frf7l6-1111115687082.Could he have Flavio too perhaps?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry I got my information from an interview with Mark himself in the Herald Star in 2008.</p><p>Have a look at <a
href="http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/the-woman-who-really-drives-mark-webber/story-e6frf7l6-1111115687082" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/the-woman-who-really-drives-mark-webber/story-e6frf7l6-1111115687082</a>.</p><p>Could he have Flavio too perhaps?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steve</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/stakes-raised-on-all-sides-in-renault-crash-fixing-row/comment-page-2/#comment-18742</link> <dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:45:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3444#comment-18742</guid> <description>Well &quot;World Class&quot; I got news for you. The Championship is not decided by most wins so your point is absurd. Nelson Piquet won one of his WDC&#039;s with cry baby Nigel as his teammate. How did &quot;your nige&quot; scare him? Before you embarress yourself further remember Mansell was behind Piquet in points when he crashed out. I am glad you brought up Mansell because that show&#039;s where your anti-Piquet bias comes from.Study this Winger:
Piquet 3 WDC
Mansell 1 WDCTime will never change that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8220;World Class&#8221; I got news for you. The Championship is not decided by most wins so your point is absurd. Nelson Piquet won one of his WDC&#8217;s with cry baby Nigel as his teammate. How did &#8220;your nige&#8221; scare him? Before you embarress yourself further remember Mansell was behind Piquet in points when he crashed out. I am glad you brought up Mansell because that show&#8217;s where your anti-Piquet bias comes from.</p><p>Study this Winger:<br
/> Piquet 3 WDC<br
/> Mansell 1 WDC</p><p>Time will never change that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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