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> <channel><title>Comments on: &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry&#8221; : Pat Symonds&#8217; letter to the World Council</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/</link> <description>Formula 1 / F1</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:52:02 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Opposite Lock (Ken)</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/comment-page-1/#comment-21519</link> <dc:creator>Opposite Lock (Ken)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:01:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3611#comment-21519</guid> <description>He&#039;s saying Jr. suggested the idea and he and Falvio ran with it rather than dismiss it.On one hand I desperately want to believe Pat&#039;s version, but on the other hand, alas, I don&#039;t think Nelson is bright enough to think it up all by himself.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s saying Jr. suggested the idea and he and Falvio ran with it rather than dismiss it.</p><p>On one hand I desperately want to believe Pat&#8217;s version, but on the other hand, alas, I don&#8217;t think Nelson is bright enough to think it up all by himself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Vadnais</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/comment-page-1/#comment-21469</link> <dc:creator>Mark Vadnais</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:33:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3611#comment-21469</guid> <description>Dear James,Please emphasize in your reporting that is was Nelson Piquet Jr. who came up with the idea to crash. Please don&#039;t let the FIA (Max Mosely) spin this fact away.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear James,</p><p>Please emphasize in your reporting that is was Nelson Piquet Jr. who came up with the idea to crash. Please don&#8217;t let the FIA (Max Mosely) spin this fact away.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Leon Allen</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/comment-page-1/#comment-21459</link> <dc:creator>Leon Allen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:40:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3611#comment-21459</guid> <description>Yes... not much good have a whistleblower policy if the guys who are doing the dirty stuff are very senior to you and even your line manager is it ?  Who the hell do you talk to then ?Best systems have independent panels who are not directly employed by the company concerned and have freedom to take any action they feel is appropriate.Imagine walking into Carlos Ghosn&#039;s office one bright morning and telling him the happy news that his most expensive marketing tool ( F1 )
is being run by bent managers.  Go down a treat wouldn&#039;t it ?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230; not much good have a whistleblower policy if the guys who are doing the dirty stuff are very senior to you and even your line manager is it ?  Who the hell do you talk to then ?</p><p>Best systems have independent panels who are not directly employed by the company concerned and have freedom to take any action they feel is appropriate.</p><p>Imagine walking into Carlos Ghosn&#8217;s office one bright morning and telling him the happy news that his most expensive marketing tool ( F1 )<br
/> is being run by bent managers.  Go down a treat wouldn&#8217;t it ?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Pugh</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/comment-page-1/#comment-21441</link> <dc:creator>John Pugh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:50:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3611#comment-21441</guid> <description>I agree with every word &#039;for sure&#039;, except the last line. There was no pretence at justice by the FIA. My opinion is that their decision was motivated by sporting politics, keeping Renault (or more accurately their money)in Formual 1 and an unacceptable element of personal vindictiveness.&#039;Justice&#039; does not make the employer unaccountable for their choice of and lack of supervision of their employees, nor does it let the master escape with a chiding whilst &#039;employees&#039; shoulder 99% of the penalty.&#039;Justice&#039; was delayed and by its delay was denied to every other team and driver in that race, especially Felipe Massa.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with every word &#8216;for sure&#8217;, except the last line. There was no pretence at justice by the FIA. My opinion is that their decision was motivated by sporting politics, keeping Renault (or more accurately their money)in Formual 1 and an unacceptable element of personal vindictiveness.</p><p>&#8216;Justice&#8217; does not make the employer unaccountable for their choice of and lack of supervision of their employees, nor does it let the master escape with a chiding whilst &#8216;employees&#8217; shoulder 99% of the penalty.</p><p>&#8216;Justice&#8217; was delayed and by its delay was denied to every other team and driver in that race, especially Felipe Massa.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Pugh</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/comment-page-1/#comment-21431</link> <dc:creator>John Pugh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:10:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3611#comment-21431</guid> <description>I would like to second that. It was an uncharacteristically bad exercise of judgment by a fundamentally decent person who has contributed a huge amount to motor sport and Formula 1 over the rest of his life.I have no difficulty accepting the truth of what he says in his letter to the FIA.I hope we will see him on the pit wall again and hopefully within the five years currently envisaged.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to second that. It was an uncharacteristically bad exercise of judgment by a fundamentally decent person who has contributed a huge amount to motor sport and Formula 1 over the rest of his life.</p><p>I have no difficulty accepting the truth of what he says in his letter to the FIA.</p><p>I hope we will see him on the pit wall again and hopefully within the five years currently envisaged.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: links for 2009-09-23 &#171; vee8 - Formula 1 and motorsport news roundups and opinion</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/comment-page-1/#comment-21430</link> <dc:creator>links for 2009-09-23 &#171; vee8 - Formula 1 and motorsport news roundups and opinion</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:10:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3611#comment-21430</guid> <description>[...] “I’m sorry” : Pat Symonds’ letter to the World Council &#8211; James Allen on F1 &quot;It played a part in the decision to give him only a five year ban, rather than a life ban, because he admitted his part in it, unlike Flavio Briatore. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] “I’m sorry” : Pat Symonds’ letter to the World Council &#8211; James Allen on F1 &quot;It played a part in the decision to give him only a five year ban, rather than a life ban, because he admitted his part in it, unlike Flavio Briatore. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: chris</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/comment-page-1/#comment-21419</link> <dc:creator>chris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:36:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3611#comment-21419</guid> <description>Yeah we all believe that a young new driver to formula one, or for that matter any series, has the knowledge to figure this scheme out, along with the fueling strategy to pull it off - NOT!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah we all believe that a young new driver to formula one, or for that matter any series, has the knowledge to figure this scheme out, along with the fueling strategy to pull it off &#8211; NOT!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brace</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/comment-page-1/#comment-21418</link> <dc:creator>Brace</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:34:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3611#comment-21418</guid> <description>It might turn out that it was all his idea.Also there&#039;s one thing no one confirmed, but it&#039;s more than obvious that it was senior&#039;s idea to &quot;make Renault pay&quot; after junior was sacked.
Junior is getting a lot of scorn for bringing this up only after he was sacked but I have a feeling, it was Senior who insisted upon that and made Junior make it official with FIA.If the idea was really suggested by Piquet, it might be that Junior really only suggested it but it was Senior who came up with it, so he could forever blackmail Briatore into keeping Junior on board.From all I&#039;ve heard from and of Senior, it wouldn&#039;t be a bit out of character for him to do it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might turn out that it was all his idea.</p><p>Also there&#8217;s one thing no one confirmed, but it&#8217;s more than obvious that it was senior&#8217;s idea to &#8220;make Renault pay&#8221; after junior was sacked.<br
/> Junior is getting a lot of scorn for bringing this up only after he was sacked but I have a feeling, it was Senior who insisted upon that and made Junior make it official with FIA.</p><p>If the idea was really suggested by Piquet, it might be that Junior really only suggested it but it was Senior who came up with it, so he could forever blackmail Briatore into keeping Junior on board.</p><p>From all I&#8217;ve heard from and of Senior, it wouldn&#8217;t be a bit out of character for him to do it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peter</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/comment-page-1/#comment-21408</link> <dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:45:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3611#comment-21408</guid> <description>Reading the papers from the FIA meeting on Monday I am struck by the reply from PKjr&#039;s lawyers about who first suggested the crash. The lawyers use the term &quot;deliberate crash&quot; three times, never just &quot;crash&quot;. This leaves open the possibility of PKjr being the first to mention &quot;a crash&quot;, perhaps in a moment of self-depracating black humour, it only later becoming a &quot;deliberate crash&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the papers from the FIA meeting on Monday I am struck by the reply from PKjr&#8217;s lawyers about who first suggested the crash. The lawyers use the term &#8220;deliberate crash&#8221; three times, never just &#8220;crash&#8221;. This leaves open the possibility of PKjr being the first to mention &#8220;a crash&#8221;, perhaps in a moment of self-depracating black humour, it only later becoming a &#8220;deliberate crash&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brace</title><link>http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/09/im-sorry-pat-symonds-letter-to-the-world-council/comment-page-1/#comment-21401</link> <dc:creator>Brace</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:49:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/?p=3611#comment-21401</guid> <description>I personally think Piquet Sr had more to do with all this than we know right now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think Piquet Sr had more to do with all this than we know right now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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