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The FIA has issued the entry list for next season’s F1 world championship and it features all of the existing teams and the three new ones who entered last week.

Montezemolo: Played a strong hand

Montezemolo: Played a strong hand

Meanwhile more details of the deal which saved F1, brokered by Luca di Montezemolo, Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone, are staring to emerge. The crucial points are that the rules for next year will be the same as 2009, costs will be brought right down, but there will be no budget cap and the teams and manufacturers have committed to the sport until at least 2012.

The FIA emerges from the episode with its authority intact and a more sensible attitude from the teams to spending, FOTA emerges as a strong body which achieved a lot through staying united and Bernie Ecclestone and his partners, CVC, know that the cashflows will continue for at least another three years.

The rules may be as in 2009, but this is really only a starting point. The devil will be in the detail; will they go ahead with the ban on refuelling, for example? Will there be KERS? There is still more work to be done on this and FOTA meets tomorrow at noon, to move forward on finalising things in conjunction with the FIA.

There will be no budget cap, instead teams will act together to drastically reduce costs, down to a level of around £40m million in two years time. They will provide some ‘technical assistance’ to the new teams, although as all three of them are signed up to Cosworth, cut price engines will not be part of that. It will be interesting to see whether all three of the new teams are still using Cosworths when next season starts. Asking the teams what this ‘technical assistance’ consists of, the answer is rather vague at the moment.

The teams and manufacturers have agreed to commit to 2012, but the deals with the FIA and FOM are different. This is a key point for FOTA. The FIA deal is open ended, recognising the FIA’s right to be the regulator of the sport, but now with the F1 commission in place to decide on future rules, which was not the case recently. With regard to FOM, the teams are signed up until 2012, presumably on the same commercial terms, but they have separated their dealings with FOM from their dealings with the FIA. There is no detail about whether Brawn will get the money it feels it is owed by FOM for Honda’s past prize fund.

Max Mosley will not seek re-election in October when his current term expires. In the meantime he has relinquished his position as the main contact man at the FIA for F1. Instead the FIA Senate will deal with any issues in F1. Mosley is a member of the Senate and, under FIA rules, he will remain a member in future as an ex president. There is a sense here that if this deal were to fall through then Mosley would be on hand to take up the FIA’s side again. Meanwhile there will be an election for a new FIA president in due course.

The deal was hammered out in a two hour meeting between Luca di Montezemolo of FOTA/Ferrari, Bernie Ecclestone and Max Mosley. The meeting took place in the FIA building and the three then went across to the world council meeting room to get everything ratified. The three men broke out of the WMSC meeting part way through to finalise a few details and then returned to report their agreement.

Both sides have achieved much of what he wanted, by pushing the teams over the brink, Mosley has got new teams into the sport, forced the manufacturers to commit and got them and the teams to wake up and smell the coffee when it comes to budgets.

So what provided the breakthrough? Well on the FIA’s side it was FOTA’s acknowledgement of the FIA’s authority, their right to govern and regulate F1. On FOTA’s side it was Mosley’s agreement not to stand again and the return of the F1 commission for setting new rules.

FOTA has achieved a lot and will no doubt continue as the body which represents the teams and manufacturers in dealings with the FIA and FOM in future. I imagine that Williams and Force India will be readmitted to FOTA, having sat on the sidelines throughout this most recent process.

Leaving their respective methods to one side, to me this episode shows that Mosley has always been a long term thinker, whereas the teams are more short term. It has been painful and it’s not completely over yet, but F1 should emerge stronger.

2010 F1 ENTRY LIST
SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM BMW SAUBER
RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING TOYOTA
SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR TBA
RED BULL RACING RBR TBA
AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS TOYOTA
FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN TBA
CAMPOS META TEAM CAMPOS COSWORTH
MANOR GRAND PRIX MANOR COSWORTH
TEAM US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH

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  1. Loti says:

    Oh well, no more Silverstone….. or Hockenheim it seems, and as usual the poor old fans are going to lose out, but hey, what we were promised was too good to be true wasn’t it?Interesting there is nothing about what Bernie has had to pay or whether the percentage cut is the same or more.
    What a disappointment. I’m out of here.

  2. Richard Mee says:

    I don’t think anyone could question your assessment of Moseley as a long-term thinker James. Perhaps the public have been guilty of letting our natural instinct to repel his arrogance cloud the fact that he’s consistently argued a just position.

    Having said that i’m sure most fans will take the view that this is a good, if somewhat anticlimatic outcome.

    A small part of me though was getting carried away with the prospect of a break-away series – all the exciting possibilities for fresh regulations and new tracks (Laguna Seca GP anyone?) – clean-sheet comercially etc. Not sure how realistic that ever was; I guess we’ll never find out. But a little disappointed.

    Especially as having competing series with similar TV access would have focused everyone involved on the excitement of their racing as a means of attracting fans.

    Now the risk is that nothing of much consequence will be done on that front – especially if we keep 2009 rules. I was at Silverstone and it wasn’t half dull.

  3. Louis says:

    I’m still very skeptical – what sort of insurance does FOTA have that Mosley won’t “change his mind” come September… and then it would be too late for them to continue trying to set-up a breakaway for 2010. I do hope they have a “no more Mosley” clause written on paper.

  4. melonfarmer says:

    I guess Ferrari’s arbitration case was looking too strong… I was actually quite looking forward to getting rid of all the old baggage about commercial rights/CVC. Ho hum, I guess the whole argument will begin again in 2012…

  5. OgRib says:

    I’m happy that top tier formula car racing will continue, but I find myself disappointed that the calendar changes FOTA might have brought won’t happen.

    As Richard mentions above – I was truly excited by the possibility of getting back some classic tracks of old, and maybe some new events in locales that truly deserve them. The thought of a Helsinki street circuit was brilliant. I was hoping to see the event fees reduced to a more realistic level, and to get a few North American events back.

  6. Grabyrdy says:

    So the thieves have finally split. It was obvious that only Bernie could get rid of Max, and also obvious that if he had to, he would.

    None of which should distract us from the fact that the next big problem is all the cash which walks away to CVC to keep Bernie rich, and the parallel necessity to put on races where no-one wants them, and discontinue races where people do go. That’s a problem that won’t go away any time soon, and FOTA must feel the wind is behind them if they want to try and resolve it now.

    As for Max’s successor, I have grave doubts that Todt actually cares enough about F1 to do that part of the job well. Who else is there though ? It’d be nice to have a technocrat with backgound in the sport. Alain Prost ?

  7. floppydingo says:

    As a side thought, I note that a few of the teams (including Brawn GP) have a ‘TBA’ where the engine maker would be – can we read anything into this?

  8. Steven Roy says:

    I would happily place a bet now that Mosely will not step down. he will manufacture a crisis that needs his attention or so many people will ask him to stand that he will be compelled to. Usual bull.

    I really can’t see why FOTA has agreed to this deal. There is no new financial agreement. There is no signed Concorde Agreement. There is nothing new. Max has agreed to step down within 24 hours of saying he will definitely stand. Before that he said he was unsure and before his vote of confidence he said if the vote went his way he definitley would not seek re-election. Givin that he rapidly changed his mind after that promise why should anyone believe him this time?

    His argument at the vote of confidence was that he was the only person who could re-negotiate the commercial rights deal. Which was dis-ingenuous as he disqualified himself from the original negotiation on the grounds of conflict of interest. I notice that since the vote of confidence he has made no attempt whatever to re-negotiate the commercial rights deal and no-one is holding him to account for it.

    I cannot believe the teams have bough this deal. No doubt we can re-live the same farce in 2012 or sooner if the dreadful Mosely decides he has to remain in power.

  9. JEFF says:

    he got them to wake up and smell the coffee on budgets? basically its just about everything that was in the FOTA proposal prior the announced new rules…hes achived nothing today other than complete and total capitulation.
    It was pretty obvious at silverstone that mosley was a dead duck. Bernie was bricking it too…i still think silverstone will have the GP in 2010 becuase of the power shift.
    FOTA will no doubt be delighted, and so they should be.

  10. krad says:

    Seems to be the fota beat mosely good and proper

  11. Shaun says:

    I hope FOTA have realised the strength in standing united and the groundswell of support from the fans. This outcome was inevitable, as are the two sides of the story (Max saying he has secured peace therefore he is leaving whereas in reality he is leaving therefore they secured peace) but I loved the fantasy schedule put forward this week.

    I’m sure Bernie has noticed the strength of FOTA and saw the threat to the repayment vehicle. I just hope he starts noticing the value of things and not simply the revenue, any more blows like the loss of Silverstone will dramtically reduce the sponsorship income and if the new venues start seeing it as a costly mistake he will be left with nowt.

    And yes, I hope the commitment to stand down is bullet proof.

  12. Jose Arellano says:

    now they should focus on the racing…do something about overtaking…. ban DDD or something!

  13. Matt says:

    I’m a little disappointed to be honest. I was looking forward to the more classic tracks and a clean break away from Bernie especially. Now it seems were stuck with tracks that look nice on TV but make for boring races and minimal crowds.

    Why not let Bernie have his mainly ‘middle east’ series and FOTA have there mainly Europe series.

  14. Peter H says:

    I’m quite disappointed in a way.

    I wanted the FIA to call FOTA’s bluff. If FOTA were then serious in their threat, we’d have seen them systematically set up a new series with new tracks – tracks that are more for the FANS than for Bernie’s pocket. I was looking forward to tracks like Adelaide, Kyalami, and Imola possibly returning. I was also looking forward to FOTA being made to put their money where their mouth was and deliver cheaper tickets as promised. Alas, that’s not gonna happen now.

    I was also looking forward to Bernie’s & CVC’s wealth being rather depleted next year as they struggled to prop up a joke FIA series with only Williams and Force India as serious operations.

  15. Rob says:

    Max Mosley will now take up the role of The Stig !

  16. Prasanna says:

    i feel like back stabbed by fota now. i was thinking about the new series for the last 1 week.

    Dam MAX and FOTA

  17. Crid [CommentCrid@gmail.com] says:

    > Perhaps the public have been guilty of
    > letting our natural instinct to repel his
    > arrogance cloud the fact that he’s
    > consistently argued a just position.

    On whose behalf, beyond his own? I think the FIA has done precious little to amuse the fans over the years. Briatore was right: No one’s brought more disrepute to Formula One in recent years than Mosley. His “arrogance” is not a minor problem.

    This is a man with troubling fascination with what it means to say nasty things to people. Good riddance.

  18. Most of us seem to agree that this is a slightly disappointing outcome but I guess it will all kick off again in 2012 as the teams will be certain to want FOM and CVC seen off.

    Trouble is they seem to have committed to the FIA long term but not to FOM but the FIA sold the commercial rights to F1 to FOM.

    James :

    does this mean that in 2012 FOTA are likely to ask the FIA to run another series called something else so they can drop FOM and CVC ?

  19. Andy says:

    I think the “cost down to 1990′s levels” is interesting. I am sure the top teams where still spending a lot more then than other teams. so who’s 1990′s levels are we talking about?

  20. graham says:

    Horrible news. FOTA deserves to live under the evil of Stalin/Mao/Hitler/Bush. The teams just folded a royal flush to a busted straight. Unless Bernie agreed to a 85/15 split, immediate payment of all outstanding sums (tens of millions) due under the MOU, and a 50% reduction in the cost to track promoters and halving ticket prices, reinstating some of the old venues, giving the teams 100% control over the regs, and a total dismantling of the WMSC and all the political apparatchiks at the FIA immediately replacing Mosley with Ron Dennis or Stoddart, I can’t see a bit of good coming out of this. We are now stuck with the organization that gave us the Spa decision, TMDs being movable aero devices and stewards who don’t look at the video before issuing a ruling. This is just another travesty in a long line of self-afflicted abuses. The teams will certainly regret it. The fans will certainly get an inferior show and the regs will still suck.

  21. muckymuck says:

    Although I’m sure most people are happy that F1 is will remain intact, it’s interesting to hear comments, including my own feelings, that people are a little disappointed that the new series won’t come to fruition. It goes to show that FOTA wasn’t far off in their definition of F1 compared to the fans.

    I do think the things that Max was pushing for were good for the sport, but the way he went about it was downright dispicable. New teams and lower budgets are definitely long term issues that need to be addressed in F1, but they do not and should not define the sport. Jamming it down the throats of the teams is rude and unappreciative of their contribution.

    I’m glad Max is gone. Controlling Bernie and the CVC is the next mountain to climb…

  22. iceman says:

    I guess you’re just trying to be even-handed here James, but I don’t see how Mosley has got anything he wanted.
    Big cost reductions, commitment from the manufacturers, even technical assistance to new teams were all on the table from FOTA all along – as you described in your post about the first FOTA press conference on 5th March. And as for new teams, well he hasn’t got those yet either. They all signed up on the basis of a 40 million budget cap, which is now in the wind. Will any of them actually be on the grid next March?
    I suppose the one concession he did get was to be allowed to continue until the end of his term in October, instead of being put in front of a firing squad tomorrow at dawn.

  23. Carsten says:

    Max has found his master, and his name is Luca de FOTA!!!!

  24. Rick J says:

    Out of all this mess the thing I have found most interesting has been the realisation that there are many many other fans of F1 out there as fed up with the way the sport has been run as I am. Why should B. Ecclestone have the right to arbitrarily decide to drop this years Canadian GP for example? Has he been given some kind of divine authority to do so? Surely this should be a govering body’s ie. FIA decison – and they should not just rubber stamp his pronouncements?

    And why should he take home 50% of the revenues FOM collects from their sky high charges to the circuits to host a GP thereby forcing the fans to pay through the nose sky high ticket prices? Hasn’t he siphoned off enough billions? The uniting of the Formula one teams into FOTA has allowed them to bring about real change. Too bad the fans can’t unite and collectively force a few changes. Up the revolution and heading for MotoGP – a far better show – says I!

  25. alex says:

    suppose one could see it coming but its a huge disappointment and another nail in the coffin , at least for this old fan.

    FOTA got us excited and then… what a let down

    More races in the deserted desert racetracks to come, i am sure.

    Good bye F1/FOTA/FIA the lot of them

  26. Travis R says:

    I think the thing that is interesting about this is that Mosley had planned on stepping down in October anyway, until only a couple of weeks ago when he decided he better stick around. So, that kind of nets out to 0. Then again, I guess he is stepping back in the interim, so the FOTA did get a bit of what they wanted there.

    As a U.S. fan, I did get my hopes up that a new series would bring a race back to North America, so I’m a little bummed about that. I do hope Bernie took notice of the proposed FOTA calendar. Nonetheless, for the most part, I would rather have a stable series to watch on TV next year than anything, so I’m happy about the outcome overall. Of course, if FOTA could now pressure Bernie to lower those sanctioning fees where Tony George could talk again…

    We have a couple of weeks until the next grand prix. So, what/who are we going to complain about now? lol!

  27. Travis R says:

    This does bring up a question – what happens to KERS now? It seems that most teams gave up on it, but I get the impression that’s partly because they thought it wouldn’t be worth pursuing it if it wasn’t incorporated into the new series. Based on 2009 rules it’s optional, as opposed to the 2010 rules where it would have been mandatory, if I remember correctly. I wonder if we’ll start seeing some teams reevaluating KERS soon?

  28. Richie says:

    What does this mean for the new teams that entered into the championship for next year under the assumption/assurance(?), that there would be an immediate budget cap? Surely this can’t be good news for them?

  29. Thomas - Oz says:

    Now to address the real problem – the fact that the racing is akin to watching paint dry.

  30. Matthew Bewers says:

    Jackie Stewart or Eddie Jordan are prime candidates for the next FIA President, in my opinion. And if they’re too old, how about Martin Brundle?

  31. Cridland [CommentCrid@gmail.com] says:

    > And if they’re too old, how about
    > Martin Brundle?

    Brundle’s only excuse for leaving the airwaves would be if they offered him a tremendous amount of money… Which is not an impossible scenario.

    Brundle as a couple of characteristics that I like.

    First, no one has ever seriously questioned his integrity.

    Second, he has humility about the sport, which is not what you’d expect from a former driver. Consider his comments a couple weeks ago (Turkey?) when a pass had been thwarted by KERS. He asked, sincerely, out loud: “So how do we feel about that?” He doesn’t have his own autocratic answer. He wants the fans to have what they want.

    Like Bernie and Briatore and very few others, he understands that basically people just want to see young men drive fast in loud cars. There’s no shining truth about technology or passing or blue flags or chassis weights. That’s a tremendous mark to his advantage.

    On the other hand, the leadership of the sport is piranhas, and they’d eat Brundle alive! which would be sad.

    But anyway Bewers, and interesting suggestion that had never come to mind. Maybe it’s my own middle age showing, but I think of Brundle at fifty as a man with much left to give to the sport.

  32. Cridland [CommentCrid@gmail.com] says:

    PS- I think, for all their charms, Stewart and Jordan aren’t the spirits we want running the political side of the sport. Stewart in particular has given us a tremendous gift in his devotion to safety, and owes us little more.

    But in terms of the requisite muscle and ego, Briatore might be the first choice to replace Bernie… And I wish Flavio were just a little younger, too.

    Doesn’t matter. It’s like the radio guy Hamilton said during practice last week: The transition when Bernie leaves is going to hurt like Hell, and possibly for a long time.

  33. MartinWR says:

    Oh well, definitely seems to be a case of “plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose”. That’s what a few people said would happen, rather presciently. But did it really have to be that messy? The racing might be a bore a lot of the time, but the amateur dramatics are first class. Why not could continue in the same vein and have less of the former and more of the latter in future? Might be a bit too exciting, though, for fans used to watching processions on the race tracks.

  34. Tom says:

    This is great news. One series was the only way the sport was going to retain its credibility. Max has been forced out which is probably no bad thing.

    I do believe it’s important that the teams do continue to work on cost cutting. It is unbelievable that (some) teams have been employing 800+ people to build 2 racing cars to go racing 17 times a year.

    Hopefully they decide to take a few more races back to the traditional circuits, but with Bernie still pulling the strings, I think this is somewhat unlikely.

  35. Peter B says:

    This is just same old same old. We are double crossed.

    Max goes to the senate. The senate (read Max) decides the rules, and the F1 commission gets told what to think.

    Bernie runs off to find governments (dictatorships) with more money than sense, until the whole thing collapses and the results will be spectacular and as disasterous)

    And all we get is boring races at boring tracks and the whole thing run by boring bankers. Roll on 2012 when it can all be put out of its misery, because right now if F1 was a horse you would have to shoot it.

    This fan doesnt thank you Luca, in fact he thinks you have sold us out, but then we dont matter. Not even the new tracks need us. I am amazed they even bother building grandstands. This whole thing smells of deals in a backroom when the whole argument was about transparency and governance.

    Given Ferraris track record on private deals I am surprised they let Luca speak for them and commit them alone without witness. As a manager I would not be comfortable at all.

    What gives him the right to commit all the teams when the caveats they entered under are not met. The concorde agreement springs to mind here. This is all razzel dazzel and smoke and mirrors. JUST HAD A THOUGHT. Maybe FOTA need until 2012 to organise a proper breakaway series.

    I will now go away and grump. I dont think I will be watching anymore F1 processions. The grey men have taken over. The passion has gone, all poured into Bernies pockets and Max’s cronies at the FiA.

  36. Craig from Canada says:

    Words cannot adequately describe what I’m feeling… I thought that the 2 problems that FOTA had were with the arbitrary rule changes and with the FOM/BE 50% cut of the profits from venues.

    The arbitrary rule changes (hopefully) are gone, but what did FOTA get from FOM?

    If Bernie still gets half of the money for doing very little while still being able to [mod] circuits for money, start times he likes, and supposedly better facilities, I may try to give up on F1. Not sure if I’ll be able to do it, but I’ll give it a shot.

  37. BMW F108 says:

    Max Mosely never listens to the fans. In the past he never gave the fans what they want. Max had the chance to please the fans by giving them the breakaway series they were clamoring for. And what does he do? He gave in to FOTA’s demands and scuppered the breakaway series. What a waste.

    Ok. Just kidding. I’m sure Max made a lot of fans happy by stepping down. Now if only he took Bernie with him.

  38. Dermot Keelan says:

    Reading this great news has actually brought tears to my eyes..thank god for everybody involved in brokering this deal. They have secured the future of our beloved sport and we can all now realistically look forward to a new golden era in our sport. Amen!!

  39. Jo says:

    My personal take on this is that CVC were the ones who forced a solution/compromise because they had the FOTA teams and FIA over a barrel.

    I have read in other reports that CVC lawyers were at Silverstone over the weekend. If this is indeed true, it would not surprise me if they threatened FOTA & the FIA jointly with legal action for breach of contract and possibly an interim injunction to prevent FOTA from starting up a breakaway series. Legally I believe their position would have been much stronger than the FIA’s in this case because they weren’t part of the squabbling. Aside from which they could afford to stay the distance because their interest is purely financial. Regarding an injunction, they would have been in a strong position to argue imminent harm and likelihood of winning the final case. Although it may eventually have been found that one of FOTA or the FIA were at fault in such a matter, I don’t think either could take the risk and chances are they would have ended up sharing any (huge) damages payout.

    That, to me, explains why the teams have been unable to get any financial concessions and why we are reverting back to the 1998 Concorde Agreement for a couple of years – keeping everything under one umbrella is always simpler (indeed, not doing that would seem to have been part of the problem here). It would not shock me if Ecclestone turned up at that meeting with the requisite agreement already constructed based on what CVC see as fair in each circumstance and just a few minor details were ironed out.

    I would also like to commend you, James, on being one of the few F1 journalists who is pursuing this story and who has consistently reported on it and offered insight. If not for your efforts, we would be significantly further in the dark.

  40. Lee says:

    Has anyone considered the fact that Max Mosley may have create this “storm” deliberately?

    The known – knowns are:

    1) Max has always been (in tandem with Bernie) an arch negotiator and a strong force
    2) The budget capping in theory was utopian – in practice it would have been impossible
    3) Max was always stepping down

    Maybe this was his way of getting what he wants: cost reduction, more teams into the sport, media spotlight on F1 (no such thing as bad PR!)

    A little high risk I know; a little dramatic I know – but after all, that’s Max all over…

    His last great negotiation ploy

  41. Markle SchuMarker says:

    Maybe it was all just to fill the websites and blogs? Lets face it, the secrecy surrounding F1 doesn’t feed the hunger of the internet for news and I for one dislike sites which re-cycle news and spin driver quotes into stories which the patently aren’t. A bit of controversy fills space and this has been nothing if not controversial! You may call me paranoid but…
    Wait, who’s that at the door… If I don’t post back here in 2 days call my family on…

  42. Markle SchuMarker says:

    It’s ok, just the gas man. This time…
    The other thing which occurs to me is that there appears to be no information on just how the budgets will be controlled. If it’s by general agreement and the teams have promised to spend less then surely at least one of then will have their fingers crossed. It doesn’t seen to me like a satisfactory agreement for anyone.

  43. The next season of F1 certainly holds lots of surprises and disappointments… to say the truth i am happy that all the teams are returning for the next season and yes the cut in the budget is inevitable… hope we have a great season ahead in 2010.

  44. Steve says:

    What sort of assurance do we have that FOTA’s technical assistance isn’t just a bag of bolts?

  45. Steven says:

    Not necessarilly. If Donington is not up to standard then Silverstone will retain the race for next year. I can see Donington losing the contract and Silverstone regaining it as they have funding in place for new pit garages.

  46. rav says:

    to be honest i’d rather the german GP stays at the nurburgring ever since hermann tilke neutered hockenheim

  47. Karlos says:

    Yes, we can read that they haven’t signed engine deals for 2010 yet.

  48. Nik Black says:

    Simple. This is the third time Max has said he will be standing down, while teams are already helping out other teams already (eg. McLaren / ForceIndia)

  49. Steve says:

    i actually think its more the other way.

    the so called classic tracks such as imola, jerez, indy, buenos-aires etc… that were mentioned by fota are the ones that provided the boring races.

    imola in particular was constantly critisised for putting on boring races as was jerez & buenos-aires, its part the reason they were dropped from f1 to start with.

    of the new tracks bahrain and istanbul have consistently provided some of the best racing of the year, bahrain especially. i can think of many good races and some nice passes at bahrain. its true the racing wasnt as good this year but from 2004-2008 bahrain produced great racing.

    sepang is a nice track, lots of fast, flowing turns and its also produced good racing, it was also great this year untill the red flag.

    the ‘lets go to traditional’ tracks argument is fine, untill we get there, then people will once again complain about the boring races just like they used to with imola.

  50. thomas - oz says:

    Umm no. This is an insular organisation. Outsiders are not welcome.

  51. Martinco5 says:

    Not Eddie Jordan please Matthew, someone who is respected is needed.

  52. ROBATCLAXBY says:

    Well he’s already a STAG ! ! !.

  53. gee says:

    Lee – a good theory, but it would take a *big man* to put his reputation aside and start an unwinnable fight purely with the intention of later backing down and settling on what he was secretly after from the start. We all know Max’s history – he is not a *big man*. He is an egotistical dictator-wannabe who thought he had enough power to bully the teams.

  54. iceman says:

    The problem I see with this theory is that pretty much everything Max has got was already offered by FOTA back in March, before Max provoked this storm.

  55. Grabyrdy says:

    Well, it was all part of Max’s woolly thinking. If all the teams have to have it, that’s one thing, if some can opt out, it makes a joke of the whole thing. Why was it not mandatory ? Because it was introduced in haste, with too little lead time. I think it’s a great idea for the image of F1 as a technical innovator, and I hope it stays, but for all teams, in 2010.

    If that happens we’ll certainly see some teams near the back putting it on towards the end of the season to get it sorted in advance. It certainly helps the racing.

  56. Rudy Pyatt says:

    Yup. Maybe someone will kick a new series in gear in the meantime. The ACO and Don Panoz maybe? After all, the motto of the ALMS is, “For The Fans.”

    I’d really like to see a breakaway series, one wholly out of BE’s grip. All of this sound and fury signifies nothing unless Bernie and CVC are brought back to reality.

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