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FIA enters Ferrari for 2010 championship
Posted By:   |  12 Jun 2009   |  10:16 am GMT  |  50 comments

After all the talk, the speculation and the drama, the FIA published the 2010 entry list shortly after 10am today.

The key point is that the FIA has gone ahead and listed all five of the teams who signed up in 2005 as unconditionally entered into the world championship, including Ferrari, which it has placed top of the list. This is likely to provoke a strong reaction from Italy, after comments from team boss Stefano Domenicali earlier this week.

Mosley: Adamant Ferrari contract to race is binding

Mosley: Adamant Ferrari contract to race is binding


Williams and Force India had already entered, but the two Red Bull teams join Ferrari on the list despite being part of the FOTA ‘conditional entry’ group, who wanted to see major changes to the rules before making their entry unconditional.

Ferrari will have little choice now but to legally challenge the validity of the contract, which means a test case in court.

Of the many new teams who made an entry only three have had it accepted, Peter Windsor’s USF1, Campos and Manor Motorsport, whom no-one has been talking about. Manor have been immenselly succesful in categories up to Formula 3 and Lewis Hamilton once drove for them in Formula Renault.

Cosworth is back on the grid, with all three of the new teams signed up for engines. There is some suggestion that USF1 are thinking about switching to a Toyota engine.

Prodrive is not there, but a note at the bottom of the list suggests that other new teams may be given an entry if negotiations with FOTA before June 19th should fail. It is also believed that there are some ‘reserve’ teams should any of the manufacturers take this opportunity to quit the sport, Toyota and Renault being the ones whose participation is still in doubt in F1 circles. The FIA world council will meet a few days later to ratify everything.

Also catching the eye is the fact that Red Bull, Toro Rosso and Brawn have no engine deal for 2010 in place at this time.
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  1. parrafone says:

    So the FIA have forced Ferrari and the two Red Bull Technology teams into it.

    Good work Max, you’re a step closer to your one-make series dream.

    Really hope FOTA fight Max’s attempt to split them.

  2. Oscar says:

    Shocked Prodrive did not make the cut! I would have put them top of the list for new teams entering F1 next year.

  3. Gabriel says:

    Interesting about Manor – never really heard of them. The new entrant list makes all the talk of Brabham, Lotus and Aston martin names (and whether they were allowed to use them) slightly academic…

    And does the FIA statement make any mention whether the teams were included within or outside the budget cap regulations? If so, it would be interesting to see what option the teams chose.

  4. The Kitchen Cynic says:

    SO what have Prodrive done wrong James? They would surely be the best prepared of the new teams, with their company’s experience, Richards’ own personal F1 experience, and (apparently) serious backing.

    Or is the possibility of a new manufacturer name (Aston Martin) the last thing Max actually wants, when he can have ersatz Brabhams and Lotuses?

  5. Antoine says:

    James

    Is there more on under what option automatic added teams have been put on? Budget cap?

  6. Christian Stewart says:

    Oh Dear. It will be interesting to hear what Luca has to say at Le Mans tomorrow.

    I can’t help feeling that Dietrich Mateschitz isn’t going to take any more kindly than Ferrari from being unconditionally entered.

  7. Katie says:

    It’s being reported elsewhere, The Formula One Teams’ Association (FOTA) has written to the FIA’s Senate and World Motor Sport Council urging it to intervene in the row over entries to next year’s championship, as it warns the teams could be forced to walk away.

    Might that letter be published as a Press Release?

    Go get it James!
    ;-)

  8. James Bond says:

    It seems to me like Ferrari is playing big spin once again…
    They ought to know if they have to be on the grid…(legally)
    Sure, they’ll go to court and loose once again…
    And behind the closed door they receive even more money then before…
    Buon lavoro sig. Luca!!!
    Complimenti!

  9. Sledge says:

    Thats not cricket.

  10. Ali says:

    Not Red Bull… FIA changed the list which saw Red Bull’s engine supplier ToBeAnnounced.

  11. Toby says:

    Ferrari have responded:

    Ferrari shall not take part in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship until the conditions of its entry are satisfied

    Maranello, 12th June 2009 – Following publication of the list of entries for the 2010 Formula One World Championship, which includes Ferrari as an unconditional entrant, Ferrari wishes to state the following:

    • Ferrari submitted on 29 May 2009 an entry to the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship which is subject to certain conditions. As of today, these conditions have not been met;

    • notwithstanding this and despite Ferrari’s previous written notice to the FIA not to do so, the FIA has included Ferrari as a unconditional participant in next year’s Formula One World Championship. For the avoidance of any doubt, Ferrari reaffirms that it shall not take part in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship under the regulations adopted by the FIA in violation of Ferrari’s rights under a written agreement with the FIA.

  12. Mike says:

    James

    You said “also catching the eye is the fact that Red Bull, Toro Rosso and Brawn have no engine deal for 2010 in place at this time”.

    The FIA have Red Bull listed with Renault engines – or am I missing something?

  13. sean says:

    What the hell is going on this guy is going mad.The lunatic is running the lunatic asylum.Let’s work together like a team and do it my way,is there no stopping him what next I give up.

  14. Jason says:

    I’m confused about RBR/STR…when did they submit unconditional entries?

  15. sean says:

    Go to ferrari.com there not going to be there next year.

  16. Sven says:

    Well, the real powergame is about to beginn. The entry list from FIA looks like Max Mosley trying to brake up the unity
    of FOTA. Ferrari has stated that they will not race unless the demands in their conditional entry are accepted.
    At the same time the FOTA teams have written to the FIA Senate and the WMSC in an apparent attemt to make them intervene and bypass or unseat Max Mosely in order to find a solution.

  17. Henry says:

    I do admire the negotiating prowess of the Max and the FIA – this is really well played. The ball is now firmly back in FOTAs court, _and_ Max has lobbed some division and distraction into their court just to liven things up.

    Lots to learn from this whole saga. But let’s hope F1 as a sport is not too compromised in the process.

  18. Steve says:

    I guess on the plus side the FIA avoided the worst case scenario of publishing 8 new teams + Willaims and Force India with just 3 slots for the remaining manufacturers but… Campos? Manor Motorsport? How on earth do those two get the nod over, say, Prodrive? I’m sure it has nothing to do with Nick Wirth’s previous relationships with Max Mosley, no, nothing in the slightest. After all his track record in F1 (Simtek, Chief Designer at Benetton in the late 90′s, evaluating aero regs for 09) is just perfection when compared to, oh, say, Dave Richards isn’t it?

  19. Rhys Xanthis says:

    Great news for USGPE, Ferrari will throw up a s**t storm!

    Although an error I think James – Red Bull Racing entry clearly states “RBR RENAULT” as the constructor.

    Oh, and any news how much money and work Cosworth are willing to put in to get their engines up to spec? You can bet, as Frank Williams said, that those engines are nowhere near the engines being manufactured by the current teams.

  20. David Patrick says:

    No surprise that the big boys are still listed, despite their ‘conditional’ entries – I just hope the new teams who said they were ready don;t lose heart with this decision.

  21. Phil says:

    RBR RENAULT is listed as the constructor. So its only STR and Brawn that are missing engine deals.

  22. David Turnedge says:

    I guess Ferrari had little to lose since it already had a guaranteed entry. Manor and Campos are two successful racing teams, so no problems there. I wonder what happened to Prodrive – all talk and no action?

  23. john g says:

    ok i understand why the FIA have included ferrari, as they believe the team are under contract to race until 2012. but why RBR / STR? i have never heard that they signed up to the same agreements as ferrari so are not obligated to compete.

    USF1 ok that was pretty much a given, but i’m quite surprised that campos and manor (wirth) got the nod ahead of lola and prodrive.

    so the manufacturers have a week to lodge unconditional entries, and i assume ferrari have a week to argue that the FIA was wrong to include them. basically it’s a total non-result for max’s totally arbitrary non-deadline. how long will this drag on for? it was pretty idiotic in the first place randomly demanding this mad scramble for entries next year before anything approaching unity of the rules was reached, but now the FIA have got everyone to this position, stability and formalisation of the rules is essential, or everyone will be left with 4 months to design new cars!

  24. mm says:

    To quote the Crocodile Harris’ song, “Give me the good news”:

    “If I accept (your) word tomorrow, can I file away my sorrow, and not be scared to watch the late night news? You can’t use force to sell a promise; dictatorship was never honest “.

    So, please, Ferrari and FOTA, give us the good news! Roll out Formula Ultimate (or whatever). We’ll be waiting for you at Kyalami . . .

  25. Williams96 says:

    The whole concept of compromise does not seem to register with Mosley these days. This is yet another pointless attack on FOTA, which achieves very little apart from infuriating them.

    Mosley took the FISA Presidency in 1991 promising an end to the Balestre era, but increasingly this just feels like history repeating itself.

    As an aside: James, when the dust – hopefully – settles on this, could you do a feature on what is known about the agreements from 2004-2008 signed by Ferrari, Williams, Red Bull, STR and Jordan/Midland/Spyker/Force India?

    Confusion continues to reign supreme in this area on what exactly the teams committed to.

    From a sporting point of view Ferrari’s unique veto is of particular concern. Seemingly all the teams essentially had a veto with the previous Concorde Agreement until it expired in 2008. Does this mean that Ferrari only enjoyed their unique veto for one season, or did some deal mean they had it from 2004 onwards?

  26. Dave says:

    Its crazy of max to get the backs up of Ferrari and Redbull by entering them against their will. Contracts or no contracts… you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.

    We all know drivers have contracts as have footballers… as have F1 teams…. but in the end you can’t make any otf them compete, so in the end the contract is ripped up.

    Imagine this scenario, you force 3 teams to compete, they take up 3 spaces on the grid ( 6 cars ) only for them to no bother to try to race, in fact they deliberately lie to the stewards so they get fined ( which they don’t pay ) or get thrown out – horray! now Max has just lost 3 teams and 6 cars, where he could of just put 3 other teams who wanted to be on the grid instead.

    The man has lost it… ho does he answer to James, why in the FIA are there no other who want a non confrontational resolution?

  27. Vik says:

    Can someone explain why in the world was Prodrive left out in favour of Manor and Campos?

    I’m really really amazed that the FIA decided to take that route.

    The Red Bull team just announced that they’re sticking by FOTA, which is pretty suprising too considering Dieter and Max are good friends, didn’t expect that.

  28. Roberto says:

    Dear James,

    In advertising there is a say the all news are good, and even if there is a lot of uncertanty and “chaos”, all teams, sponsors & drivers have received more coverage than usual in the media which at the end increases awareness, recall among other key ad measurers.

    What the FIA is trying to do is bringing the top brands of the actual teams with some new who porbably will clail compete loyalty to the FIA or in this case Mr. Mosley (Ferrari as the powerhouse in F1 and Red Bull as the leading brand in energetic beverages, one of the most profitable companies in the world by volume with a loyal target of 16+ years which follows them everywhere), Mclaren is great with Mercedes but not as powerfull as the other two and them on goes BMW, Brawn, Toyota, etc.

    If they are unable to find an agreement this will go to court and up to this date the Paris court ruled that Ferrari contract is valid and the same probably will apply for Red Bull so unless they pay a huge penalty they won´t be able to go with the other FOTA teams.

  29. Mike says:

    So let’s assume that there is a breakaway series, the FIA win a court case compelling Ferrari, RBR and STR to compete in the FIA F1 championship.

    My question is – what’s to stop these 3 teams going through the motions of competing in the FIA championship? Send 2 cars, test/reserve drivers (with the appropriate licence), skeleton staff, no hospitality etc. They could practice, qualify, and race for one lap. It may be cheaper than the cost of legal action and/or fines, and they will receive payment for points won this year from Bernie to help offset the cost of doing it.

    I for one would pay to see the look on Max and Bernies faces if that happened.

  30. The Flying Finn says:

    Have to say that leaving out Prodrive at this point is another genius move by Max. One has to assume that they are probably the best qualified of the new entrants, having already been previously accepted a couple yrs back. This coupled with the forced entry of RBR/STR puts real pressure on FOTA to cave in as those who don’t submit an unconditional entry now faces the real threat of having the spot taken by a REAL credible and ready to go outfit. Max owns these guys and totally deserves it.

  31. Aaron James says:

    Just seems to me that for the first time in a long time, Max truly seems to have lost control of the political proceedings. It also seems to me that Bernie, despite his occasional threat to sue everyone asunder, has been relatively quiet in all of this.

    Surely the money men, the ashen suits of CVC are going to start getting uppity. The teams may not want a breakaway series, but with every deadline Max imposes (which later prove to be irrelevant anyway) the 8 rebel teams get pushed further into a corner.

    At this point, and certainly as the regulations stand, the rebel 8 would be vastly better off biting the bullet and going and starting their own series. Maybe using Dorna, maybe back it off A1GP. Max might usually be quite clever, but I mean what is to stop Ferrari and Redbull sending tonka trucks to fail scrutineering at F1 races next year (to meet their entry obligations) while sending its real mcoy single seaters to it’s breakaway series?

    Max has had a good run, but this has shades of Balestre to it, when he finally pushed people too far (thinking himself impervious).

  32. Leo Allen says:

    What a complete can of worms…… !

    You can bet your last dollar that what’s in print ( from FIA, Ferrari, RBR etc, etc… ) is just the tip of the iceberg.

    The E-mail servers will be in meltdown for the next few days and Ecclestone and CVC will be seriously p*ssed off !

    Next friday will be a bit like the Gunfight at the OK Corral….bodies everywhere and just two men left standing in the sunset ! ….wow !

    First one to blink ?

  33. john g says:

    so what’s easier… to get some circuits signed up, some tv companies interested, and teams commited to super racing ™, all within 8 months, or for brand new companies incentivised by the promise of a cut price F1 to design half way competitive cars, and cosworth to develop their V8 again, within 8 months.

    and which would i rather watch…

    well, if the drivers stay contracted to their teams as they appear to be, and we get great cars at the pinnacle of technology, racing on decent circuits like silverstone, with reasonable hosting fees allowing reaonable ticket prices and full grandstands, in countries where people actually cared about racing, i would be a *very* happy fan :)

  34. EndofF1 says:

    I don’t get it…..
    First, Max says that F1 can survive without Ferrari and also said they are free to leave if they are not willing to come under budget cap…
    And now he forcefully signs them for 2010….

    Does that imply that F1 does need Ferrari???

  35. aaaaaa says:

    I don’t think Mosley has acted in the interests of the sport, so I can barely use the word clever – devious might be more appropriate.

    By splitting the FOTA teams, he’s made sure that if everyone holds to their current positions, Ferrari, RBR and TR will end up in protracted legal proceedings for quite a long time after next Friday. If they win their case, by that time it might be too late to organise a breakaway series. If they lose their case, the other five will be on their own with not enough teams to organise a breakaway series.

    The risks for the FIA are that if Ferrari and Co win their case, and the other FOTA teams have been replaced by new ones, then their 2010 grid will consist of a couple of also rans (to put it mildly in Force India’s case, much though I love them and their very well updated Twitter feed), and a whole stack of new teams with no fan base whatsoever. Formula 1 would have been pretty much assassinated for no good reason.

    To lose one immediate past world championship winning team in McLaren could be considered unfortunate, to lose this year’s potential champion in Brawn in addition would be careless and to lose great names like Renault and Ferrari on top of that is sheer lunacy.

    [mod]

  36. jeremy says:

    James,

    Does the nod for Manor mean a possibility of Hamilton making the move? Surely they will closely watch their progression and possibly try to sign for 2012 when his McLaren deal is up, or if the antics continue internally, opt out for as early as 2011 if they make a big push.

  37. Peter says:

    so can i just get this straight?

    The teams that entered conditionally have been conditionally accepted onto the conditional entry list on the condition that their conditions are unconditionally withdrawn from their conditional entry papers.?

    Can the last one to leave please remember to turn out the lights?

    Peter (the other one)

  38. Alex T says:

    I would imagine Prodrive was left out because it has left the FIA at the altar once before. Once bitten, twice shy?

    Similarly Lola, particularly as it was not Lola Cars entering but a subsidiary.

    I think that the damage done to Ferrari and Red Bull corporately if they were to just mess about next year means it is a non-starter. All Max would do would charge them with bringing the sport into disrepute and fine them millions.

    The fat lady has yet to start clearing her throat regarding the FOTA eight and so we shall just have to wait and see what happens by the next deadline. Good move that from Max. Another deadline means less time to set up a rival series.

  39. Gareth Price says:

    Was really looking forward to Prodrive, Lola, maybe even Litespeed getting in there. Very disappointed :(

  40. Andrew says:

    Yes, the budgets are too high, but that’s not something you fix with some hastily rewritten rules that ignore things like contract law, labour law etc.

    F1′s in this mess not just because of the current recession, but because of dodgy governance for years. Irresponsible governance that failed to make allowance for precisely this possibility. And who’s been in charge all that time?

    Anyway, money talks, so why don’t the teams just bypass Max and Bernie and go straight over for a chat with CVC? Bet this could be sorted out in the time it takes to eat a cucumber sandwich…

  41. James Allen says:

    I believe that was an error. Should be Red Bull TBA

  42. James Allen says:

    As part of FOTA. But they signed up with Bernie in 2005 to race until 2012. They are in the same position as Ferrari.

  43. Kirk says:

    Errr… somehow I fail to see any kind of “negotiation” being done here – specially from Max/FIA. If anything by doing this list Max has just upset Ferrari, RBR and STR even more.

    I just wish FOTA teams had the guts to kick it all into touch and announce they are forming their own GP series next week – would love to see Max with egg on his face and with his tail between his legs after FOTA calling his bluff.

  44. Tom says:

    Are there any more errors? Seems like FIA can’t publish an entry list, set of rules, race results or invitations to a celebration at a brewery without any mistakes creeping in.

  45. David T says:

    I just wonder to what extent we underestimate Bernie’s hand in all this. He and Max go way, way back and until now (seemingly) have always worked very closely together behind the scenes to get what they both want.

    What bets that Bernie is pulling the strings all along?

  46. Ahmad Albashrawi says:

    RBR / STR signed their contracts in 2005 together with Ferrari and Williams, so they are contracted until 2012 (from FIA point of view, of course).

  47. Dans says:

    Its Max’s bargaining chip against the 5 teams with an asterisk against there names.

    Dont want to play ball? Fine, i have Prodrive and Lola to take your place.

  48. Dans says:

    Lol, so true.

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