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Posted on March 10, 2009
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Had dinner with Sebastien Buemi’s Dad last night and he explained the problems the Toro Rosso team is having with deciding what names to use over the radio to differentiate between the two drivers, Buemi and Sebastien Bourdais. Both are called Sebastian, both are nicknamed ‘Seb’, both have the initials SB, both are French speaking and guess what, both of them have the same middle name… Olivier! What are the chances of that?

They are scratching their heads. It’ll have to be car 11 and car 12, so literally they will be saying, “Come in number 11 your time is up..!”

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  1.   1. Posted By: doctorvee
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 12:20 am 

    Maybe they should have hired Takuma Sato after all…

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  2.   2. Posted By: Frenchie
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 12:26 am 

    How about “Come on in Bourdais…” ?

    It’ll certainly make for some interesting pit-to-car radio mix up for the commentators if they keep it to just to Seb!

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  3.   3. Posted By: Links for 10 March 2009 « vee8 - a Formula 1 blog
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 1:05 am 

    [...] Confusion at Toro Rosso – James Allen on F1Maybe they should have hired Takuma Sato after all… [...]


  4.   4. Posted By: mp423
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 1:44 am 

    Hmmm….calling them Bourdais and Buemi over the radio would be a good solution. :)

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  5.   5. Posted By: Journeyer
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 2:56 am 

    Erm… Can’t they call ‘em Bourdais and Buemi? Just pointing out the obvious here. ;)

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  6.   6. Posted By: Ace Best
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 3:42 am 

    Wkwkwk…In 2 years running,they have 2 Sebastien (Sebastian) on the team.And this year,it gets even worse appearantly.Why don’t they just call them with their last name.Or come up with a new nick name?

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  7.   7. Posted By: Raz
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 3:52 am 

    HAHAHHA! Classic!

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  8.   8. Posted By: Barcelona test March 2009 - Day 1 - March 9 | F1 Wolf
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 3:56 am 

    [...] other team that has a serious problem is Scuderia Toro Rosso. Their problem are their Sebastiens – read more here [...]


  9.   9. Posted By: Ali
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 6:58 am 

    Use their surnames!

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  10.   10. Posted By: fastformula
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 8:10 am 

    haha, nice info

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  11.   11. Posted By: Jason C
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 8:59 am 

    I vote for ‘itchy’ and ‘scratchy’.

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  12.   12. Posted By: FrankFurt
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 8:59 am 

    Maybe once and for all we could get their names right. Unfortunately you’ve mixed it up in one paragraph. “Sebastien Buemi’s Dad last night and he explained the problems the Toro Rosso team is having with deciding what names to use over the radio to differentiate between the two drivers, Buemi and Sebastien Bourdais. Both are called Sebastian”.

    Except both are called Sébastien. ;)

    Sorry for nit-picking but it’s hard enough to know who you’re talking about (Buemi or Bourdais) without introducing a new variable!!

    Love the blog :D

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  13.   13. Posted By: Gren Nation
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 9:15 am 

    Bourdais’ team in Champ Car called him “seabass”

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  14.   14. Posted By: Chaz
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 9:40 am 

    lol and what about using their surnames or car numbers…

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  15.   15. Posted By: Keith Collantine
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 9:40 am 

    And their helmets are really similar too.

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  16.   16. Posted By: Tom
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 10:42 am 

    Put them on the same strategy, and bring them both in on the same lap – it’s all out in the open now anyway!

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  17.   17. Posted By: Kevin M
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 11:03 am 

    Adopt the Bananas in Pyjamas approach. B1 and B2.

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  18.   18. Posted By: Stephen Kellett
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 11:16 am 

    What about Champ and Rookie?
    :-)

    I like the idea of calling Bourdais See bass.

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  19.   19. Posted By: Moog
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 11:46 am 

    How about calling one ‘Rookie’ and after last season, call the other one ‘Lucky’, although at 200MPH Lucky and Rookie could sounds quite similar.

    How about having separate radios :)

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  20.   20. Posted By: Woobie
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 12:17 pm 

    Does it mean that one hears what his team mate and his engineer are talking?

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  21.   21. Posted By: Amy
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 12:46 pm 

    Personally I’m going to call them “Sebbo” and “Sebbu”

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  22.   22. Posted By: Tom
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 1:07 pm 

    couldn’t possibly do that – they have to cut costs!

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  23.   23. Posted By: Kevin McCaffrey
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 1:10 pm 

    Great name if you you want your kid to be a top motorsport driver.

    Sebastian Vettel, Sebastien Bourdais, Sebastien Buemi and don’t forget the rallying with 5 times world champion Sebastien Loeb and another great WRC driver on the scene Sebastien Ogier!!

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  24.   24. Posted By: Aaron James
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 9:01 pm 

    What about Big Seb Little Seb owing to age differences?

    Or old git and young git but i daresay Mike Jordan of BTCC fame may object………………………

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  25.   25. Posted By: Keith Collantine
        Date: March 10th, 2009 @ 11:03 pm 

    It just occurred to me that Toro Rosso’s drivers are a pair of S.O.B.s…

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  26.   26. Posted By: JohnBt
        Date: March 11th, 2009 @ 1:32 am 

    What’s the fuss here. Bourdais and Buemi sounds very different.

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  27.   27. Posted By: Tomys
        Date: March 11th, 2009 @ 1:00 pm 

    Didn’t know that they use same frequency channel towards both cars so one driver hears what is said to the other one? Is it not disturbing?

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  28.   28. Posted By: rpaco
        Date: March 11th, 2009 @ 1:39 pm 

    Tomys: I am pretty sure they use different frequencies for each driver, I remember Ross with radio packs on each hip, one for Schumi and one for Kimi. (yea I’m old I remember this stuff but what happened last week is a mystery) Anyway perhaps john g or Phil can confirm this. (or one of you other team members)

    It would be ridiculous to have both drivers on the same channel. It would end up like Faulty Towers :-)

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  29.   29. Posted By: James Allen
        Date: March 11th, 2009 @ 1:50 pm 

    JA writes: This was only a bit of fun … It’s actually not so much the radio, but just imagine the debrief room … seems a bit formal to call people by their surname face to face.

    I’ll speak to the team and see how they’ve resolved it. Might do this by Twitter.

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  30.   30. Posted By: coolGav
        Date: March 11th, 2009 @ 1:51 pm 

    How come Brawn could speak to a McLaren???

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  31.   31. Posted By: john g
        Date: March 12th, 2009 @ 4:34 pm 

    rpaco yeah mate, radio’s are totally seperate. most engineers and pit crew all work on one car. even messages from the team managers and shared engineers etc. over the radio have to be relayed seperately to each driver or side of the garage.

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  32.   32. Posted By: Dave Walker
        Date: March 20th, 2009 @ 12:15 pm 

    I thought Buemi was Swiss. Thus Bourdais is the sole cheese eating surrender monkey.

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  33.   33. Posted By: Dave Walker
        Date: March 20th, 2009 @ 12:16 pm 

    Sorry James, I just noticed you said French speaking, d’oh!!

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  34.   34. Posted By: Shades
        Date: April 3rd, 2009 @ 9:57 pm 

    Howzabout Mr Average (Bourdais) and Mr Lucky (Buemi)…and get familiar with Mr Saviour (when Sato is drafted in to replace Bourdais)….

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